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Re: "How Large Was Noah's Ark?" by RoyaleR(m): 1:52pm On Jan 07, 2014
Wow incredible wink
Re: "How Large Was Noah's Ark?" by mkmyers45(m): 1:54pm On Jan 07, 2014
mad nigerian:

Scientifically speaking, it could be possible......[url]http://history.howstuffworks.com/history-vs-myth/noahs-ark.htm
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[size=29pt]Could Noah's ark really have happened?
by Cristen Conger


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One of the oldest stories in the world, the tale of Noah and his ark has crossed oceans and continents over millenniums. Versions float around in nearly every human culture, and Christianity, Islam and Judaism share the overarching plot points of a man, a flood and animals marching two by two. But for all of these similarities, whether the tale traces back to fact remains contentious among religious and scientific scholars alike.

As the story goes, God told Noah to build an enormous wooden boat and load a male and female of every animal species into it. Then God made it rain, flooding the entire earth with water to swallow up the wicked.

Before we dive into the question of whether Noah and his ark existed, let's first ask if there's any evidence of ancient worldwide flooding. Scientifically speaking, such a flood would be impossible. It would take more than five times the amount of water in the oceans and atmosphere to submerge the earth up to its mountaintops [source: Discovery Channel and BBC]. And if that amount of water entered the atmosphere, the resulting pressure would crush people's lungs [source: Discovery Channel and BBC].


But that doesn't mean the story is bogus -- just maybe not subject to literal interpretation. Instead, geologists William B.F. Ryan and Walter C. Pitman from Columbia University postulate that a great flood resulted from the rapid water level rise in the Black Sea as the last Ice Age tapered off around 5600 B.C. [source: Wilford].

Calling it the "Noah's Flood Hypothesis," the geologists theorized that water from melting ice caps overwhelmed the Mediterranean Sea, breaking through the Bosporus Strait to the Black Sea with Herculean force and flooding more than 60,000 s­quare miles (96,560 kilometers) of land [source: Wilford]. In 2007, other researchers found evidence that a melting ice cap from Greenland boosted global sea levels 4.5 feet (1.4 meters) between 8740 B.C. and 8160 B.C., causing people to migrate toward Europe to escape flooding in the same region [source: Turney and Brown].

But many marine geologists remain unconvinced of this theory, pointing to their own evidence of a more gradual Black Sea growth around 10,000 B.C. to 9,000 B.C. [source: Alsu et al.]. Schola­rs also think that the story links to the flooding of the Tigris and Euphrates rivers and point out that the hypothesis leaves no room for the characteristic rain. On the next page, we'll examine Noah as a person more closely to find out why this river theory may be correct.


Local flood yes.........

World wide flood is just ridiculous

Also, How did races diverge from a global flood that killed everybody save eight people?
Re: "How Large Was Noah's Ark?" by mazaje(m): 1:54pm On Jan 07, 2014
jayAjoku: answer this is there anything too hard for God...?

Many many thing are too hard for god. . .example no go can heal an amputee and restore his or her amputated limbs back. . .

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Re: "How Large Was Noah's Ark?" by xynerise: 2:02pm On Jan 07, 2014
Noah's ark----The Titanic
Re: "How Large Was Noah's Ark?" by emmyclassic(m): 2:06pm On Jan 07, 2014
Scientists has come to believe that the biblical flood story could be true because " if all the ice in the world should melt today the whole world would be submerged in water" Which is to say the Noah's flood is still with us till this day. Heard this 2 years ago on CNN on an issue on GLOBAL WARMING. Don't 4get after d 40 days rain God sent a strong wind to blow d water away which could av resulted to the icing we have today in d polar regions.
Re: "How Large Was Noah's Ark?" by PAPAAFRICA: 2:09pm On Jan 07, 2014
Noahs ark wasn't real, sorry niggas.
Re: "How Large Was Noah's Ark?" by Emma8043(m): 2:13pm On Jan 07, 2014
Evil Brain: How did Noah fit 2 million insects (1 million species x 2) into the ark? And how did be manage to fit 12,000 amphibians, 20,000 birds, 11,000 mammals, 16,000 reptiles and god knows how many crustaceans, arachnids and mollusks into a boat that must have already been overflowing with insects? Where did he find space to keep a years worth of food for all those animals? How did he keep the meat for the Lions, tigers and other carnivores fresh for a whole year? Why did he take mosquitoes, tapeworms, guinea worms and the HIV virus aboard the ark? Did he infect himself with all those parasites, or did he force his wife and children to carry them? How come all the animals didn't freeze to death at 9,000 metres altitude (the height of Mount Everest which must have been underwater) Where did they find oxygen to breathe at that height? What did all the animals eat after getting off the ark? All the plants must have died after a year underwater, and all the animals would have drowned so no food for herbivores or carnivores. How come all the fish in the ocean survived? Saltwater fish can't survive in freshwater and the ocean would have been massively diluted with all that rain. Or did the ark also have a salty fish tank with space for 60,000 fish (30,000 species x 2)? And how did he feed all those fish?

Not that I'm doubting this ark story mind you. Its in the Bible after all, so it must be true. I'm just curious about a few technicalities. I'm sure you have good explanations for all of them.
oboi see jamb question
Re: "How Large Was Noah's Ark?" by clemmonce(m): 2:16pm On Jan 07, 2014
Joshthefirst: ^^^

He does.

And not all insects were admitted into the ark mind you.

If you can mannage to not lalala and examine this noah and the ark story even scientifically, you'll realize its remarkable.

And only terrestrials were admitted. Some fish would have survived though. Majority of the rest would be covered in sand and silt washed suddenly upon them.

Majority of lifeforms would fossilize, majority of the land would be scarred by the moving waters.
the way you sound it seems you are Christian so you believe in God. my guy if God wants to keep you alive he will . where other people go and they die you will go you will live.
Re: "How Large Was Noah's Ark?" by Adamskuty(m): 2:20pm On Jan 07, 2014
Lol!

The whole world wasn't flooded.

They were few humans on earth by that time,let's say not more than a thousand!

And they all lived in Noah's hometown.

So only noah's hometown was flooded as the only humans on earth by then,lived there.

cool cool cool
Re: "How Large Was Noah's Ark?" by Nobody: 2:22pm On Jan 07, 2014
GOD's ways are not our ways,so stop questioning HIS authority,mind u,HE's an unquestionable GOD
Re: "How Large Was Noah's Ark?" by hyzicbond(m): 2:27pm On Jan 07, 2014
According to International Standard Bible Encyclopedia,



Size and Nature of the Ark; According to Gen 6:14-16 God commanded Noah to build an ark of gopher wood 300 cubits long, 50 cubits broad, and 30 cubits high. It was to have three stories divided into compartments, was to be covered with pitch on the inside and outside, and was to have a door and a window. GOPHER WOOD has not been identified. Some believe that it was a cypress or cedar and others oak, but there is no certainty on this point today.

Likewise, it is impossible to be dogmatic about the length of the CUBIT and thus about the size of the ark. The length of Babylonian, Egyptian, and Hebrew cubits differed; and the Hebrews themselves had two cubit measurements: a long cubit of 52 cm. (20.4 in.) and a common cubit of about 44.5 or 46 cm. (17.5 or 18 in.). If the shorter Hebrew cubit is used as a basis of computation, then the ark was about 135 m. by 22.5 m. by 13.5 m. (450 ft. by 75 ft. by 45 ft.), with a total volume of just over 41,000 cubic m. (150,000 cubic ft.). The use of a longer cubit would substantially increase the size of the ship. Computing on the basis of the shorter cubit, the ark was 185 m. (510 ft.) or almost half the length of the Queen Mary. And apparently no ship would have exceeded the length of the ark until the Cunard Line built the Eturia in 1884.

There is no need to debate whether Noah and his sons had the engineering skills to design such a great ship early in antiquity. It was probably a very large barge; nothing is said about its having a keel, oars, or rudder. Its function was only to serve as a houseboat for animals and people for the duration of the flood. Apparently long before Noah's day people had learned the art of making the metal tools necessary for such a massive undertaking (Gen 4:22). Bitumen for caulking purposes was available in quantity in Mesopotamia; presumably that is where the ark was built.

The door was located in the side of the ark; but the nature of the window is uncertain. Frequently this is interpreted to have been an open area a cubit high under the eaves and running around the entire structure. Such an aperture would have been divided into segments by the supporting timbers of the roof, and lattice work could have been installed in places where birds were housed. The window could have provided light and ventilation for the lower decks only if a large area was open in the center of the ark.

Though compartments were to be constructed for the animals on the ark, their nature is unknown. It has been assumed that cages for small birds or mammals were stacked to make maximum use of deck space. Of course no one knows how many animals the ark housed. The Genesis account commands only that a single pair of unclean fauna and seven pairs of clean fauna should be taken aboard the ark. The reason for the larger number in the latter case was to provide food for Noah and his family. Evidently the distinction between clean and unclean existed long before the decrees of the Mosaic law. The problem of determining the number of animals involved is complicated by the difficulty of deciding whether only certain parent types (dog, cat, cow) or more numerous representations were involved. Some 4500 species of mammals and some 8,650 species of birds exist on earth today.

Various computations have been made to demonstrate that the ark was large enough to house the required number of species. On the generous side, LaHaye and Morris settled on a figure of 50,000 animals that would need to have been housed in the ark, averaging in size a little smaller than a sheep. They conclude that these would fill only about one-third of the capacity of the ark, leaving plenty of space for storage (p. 247). Though the various estimates do show the feasibility of protecting fauna against even a global flood, one need not be dogmatic about the way it was accomplished. Another unanswered question is how Noah rounded up all those animals and birds. It may be that God somehow compelled or impelled the fauna to move toward Noah and the ark in advance of boarding day (cf. Gen 6:20).
(from International Standard Bible Encyclopedia, revised edition, Copyright © 1979 by Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing Co. All rights reserved.)
Re: "How Large Was Noah's Ark?" by Luvlydevin(m): 2:27pm On Jan 07, 2014
Evil Brain: How did Noah fit 2 million insects (1 million species x 2) into the ark? And how did be manage to fit 12,000 amphibians, 20,000 birds, 11,000 mammals, 16,000 reptiles and god knows how many crustaceans, arachnids and mollusks into a boat that must have already been overflowing with insects? Where did he find space to keep a years worth of food for all those animals? How did he keep the meat for the Lions, tigers and other carnivores fresh for a whole year? Why did he take mosquitoes, tapeworms, guinea worms and the HIV virus aboard the ark? Did he infect himself with all those parasites, or did he force his wife and children to carry them? How come all the animals didn't freeze to death at 9,000 metres altitude (the height of Mount Everest which must have been underwater) Where did they find oxygen to breathe at that height? What did all the animals eat after getting off the ark? All the plants must have died after a year underwater, and all the animals would have drowned so no food for herbivores or carnivores. How come all the fish in the ocean survived? Saltwater fish can't survive in freshwater and the ocean would have been massively diluted with all that rain. Or did the ark also have a salty fish tank with space for 60,000 fish (30,000 species x 2)? And how did he feed all those fish?

Not that I'm doubting this ark story mind you. Its in the Bible after all, so it must be true. I'm just curious about a few technicalities. I'm sure you have good explanations for all of them.
haven't you heard why he is called jehova overdo, the author and finisher off our faith, the only God that feed thousands of people with 5 loafs of bread and 2 fishes, the omniscience the omnipotent the omnipresent the ancient of days, beginning and the end, created not made, the God that created the world out of nothing,
My guy forget that kind reasoning, na this kind mindset oga jonah get before fish swallow am o baba God was the one that sent him to embark on such journey o and Noah know say baba God no day fail
Re: "How Large Was Noah's Ark?" by MrAboki: 2:30pm On Jan 07, 2014
mazaje:

Many many thing are too hard for god. . .example no go can heal an amputee and restore his or her amputated limbs back. . .


Or raise a deadbody that has been embalmed
Re: "How Large Was Noah's Ark?" by hyzicbond(m): 2:30pm On Jan 07, 2014
Causes; The Genesis account gives a twofold source of the waters responsible for the flood: "the sluice gates of heaven were opened" with the result that rain cascaded upon the earth; and "the fountains of the great deep burst forth" (Gen 7:11). What is meant by the latter clause is not clear. Often it is taken to imply some terrestrial convulsion that released vast stores of subterranean waters, but no evidence of subterranean reserves on the required scale can be found. Nor is there evidence of any general and cataclysmic alteration of the earth's crust at a given time in the past when such reservoirs may have been eliminated by the collapse of geological structures above them.
Re: "How Large Was Noah's Ark?" by Petbuk123(m): 2:31pm On Jan 07, 2014
Evil Brain:

The numbers I quoted refer to the species alive today. If they weren't all admitted to the ark, then how did they survive?

And no, the saltwater fish could not have survived. Very few fish species can survive such drastic changes in salinity. The vast majority would have died long before all the land was covered.

I noticed that you didn't address the fact that there simply isn't enough space for even a tiny fraction of those animals to fit on the ark as described in the bible. Even a hundred arks couldnt have fit all the food (and shït) they would have gone through in a month, not to talk of a year. Also there's the altitude problem. And the post deluge food problem. And the problem of which one of Noah's family members was HIV positive.

I didn't even ask how all the animals only found on isolated islands and continents (like kangaroos, ostriches, lemurs and the various species of giant tortoises) managed to find their way to the middle east to climb into the ark. Did they swim across the oceans? Did they swim back after the flood? And how come kangaroos and lemurs didn't leave a single descendant behind in Eurasia or Africa during their long walk/swim back to Australia/Madagascar? You'd think you'd find every class of animal living around the area where the ark landed instead of species being geographically isolated the way they are.

Like I said before, I'm not doubting the story. The Bible is obviously 100% correct in every way. I just want to clear up a few grey areas.
.evil brain indeed,somethings are just gbabe,i salute u though
Re: "How Large Was Noah's Ark?" by hyzicbond(m): 2:33pm On Jan 07, 2014
Duration;According to popular opinion the flood lasted forty days because that was the length of time it rained. But a careful reading of the Genesis account reveals that Noah, his family, and the animals were shut up in the ark for a total of 371 days. This figure is calculated as follows. On the seventeenth day of the second month of Noah's six hundredth year, Noah, his family, and all the animals were safely in the ark and God shut the door (Gen 7:11,16). Then it poured for forty days and nights, during which time the waters rapidly covered the earth. Evidently it continued to rain lightly for another 110 days, making a total of 40 + 110 or 150 days of rain (7:24; cf. 8:4).

For the next 74 days (13+30+30+1, Gen 8:5) the waters abated until the tops of the mountains could be seen. Then Noah waited forty days before opening the lattice on the window of the ark and releasing a raven (8:6), which did not return because as a scavenger it was able to live off the land. Seven days later (deduced from the "other seven days" of v. 10 and the total of v. 14) Noah sent out a dove which found no resting place (v. 9). Seven days later he sent out a dove again; this time it returned with an olive leaf (v. 11). After another seven days Noah sent out the dove for the third time, and this time it did not return (v. 12). After a lapse of twenty-nine more days Noah removed the covering of the ark (v. 13). And after another fifty-seven days God commanded Noah to evacuate the ark (vv. 14-17), on the twenty-seventh day of the second month of his six hundred first year (vv. 13 f), 371 days after God shut the door at the be-ginning of the flood.

A consecutive reading of the whole Flood narrative shows a continuous progress from beginning to end, with only such repetitions for literary effect as commonly appear in oriental writings. There is no basis for asserting, as Wellhausen did, that Gen 6-9 is a patchwork of J and P source materials (cf. IDB, II, 279). Not only does such a view contradict common literary practice and common sense, but it also runs counter to the Babylonian flood account, which includes supposed J and P elements side by side. Unity of authorship in the biblical narrative may be confidently assumed.
(from International Standard Bible Encyclopedia, revised edition, Copyright © 1979 by Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing Co. All rights reserved.)
Re: "How Large Was Noah's Ark?" by MrAboki: 2:34pm On Jan 07, 2014
Luvly devin: haven't you heard why he is called jehova overdo, the author and finisher off our faith, the only God that feed thousands of people with 5 loafs of bread and 2 fishes, the omniscience the omnipotent the omnipresent the ancient of days, beginning and the end, created not made, the God that created the world out of nothing,
My guy forget that kind reasoning, na this kind mindset oga jonah get before fish swallow am o baba God was the one that sent him to embark on such journey o and Noah know say baba God no day fail

Your mindset is part of the reason why you can easily be fooled..


The bible was specific, two animals of each type, specie, etc.. Theoritically, its impossible. Geologically, there is no evidence of a flood of such proportions (I am a Geological Engineer so I know).

A basic example is that if the world were truly drowned in such magnitude to water, One set of fishes would have all perished.. Either Salt Water fishes or fresh Water fishes..

Then how did 8 Jew families end up populating the world into different races..
Re: "How Large Was Noah's Ark?" by hyzicbond(m): 2:36pm On Jan 07, 2014
FLOOD
Date. — The date of the flood raises as many questions as do the extent and other aspects of this event. Flood layers found by L. Woolley at Ur and by other archeologists at various Mesopotamian sites can have no bearing on the question because they date to a wide range of periods, hundreds of years apart. Obviously they resulted from purely local floods which were often devastating in their own regions.

After the 6 th or 5 th millennium B.C., there is no break brought on by a flood or any other catastrophe in Near Eastern civilization. And in fact excavations at Jericho in Palestine and Jarmo in Iraq push undisturbed remains at those sites back into the 8 th millennium B.C. Unfortunately, there is no basis for assigning any firm dates earlier than that time either Thus, various popular handbooks that assign dates for the Flood should be read with care because they lack significant collections of evidence in support of their conclusions.

Regrettably, as new information becomes available the picture does not become any clearer. Anthropologists, e.g., are now claiming that human beings arrived in North America from Asia well before 20,000 B.C. An assertion that all mankind was judged by the Flood would require either that the flood was universal and may have occurred after the arrival of humans in North America or that it was local and came before they crossed the Bering Strait.
Re: "How Large Was Noah's Ark?" by Nobody: 2:36pm On Jan 07, 2014
Evil Brain: How did Noah fit 2 million insects (1 million species x 2) into the ark? And how did be manage to fit 12,000 amphibians, 20,000 birds, 11,000 mammals, 16,000 reptiles and god knows how many crustaceans, arachnids and mollusks into a boat that must have already been overflowing with insects? Where did he find space to keep a years worth of food for all those animals? How did he keep the meat for the Lions, tigers and other carnivores fresh for a whole year? Why did he take mosquitoes, tapeworms, guinea worms and the HIV virus aboard the ark? Did he infect himself with all those parasites, or did he force his wife and children to carry them? How come all the animals didn't freeze to death at 9,000 metres altitude (the height of Mount Everest which must have been underwater) Where did they find oxygen to breathe at that height? What did all the animals eat after getting off the ark? All the plants must have died after a year underwater, and all the animals would have drowned so no food for herbivores or carnivores. How come all the fish in the ocean survived? Saltwater fish can't survive in freshwater and the ocean would have been massively diluted with all that rain. Or did the ark also have a salty fish tank with space for 60,000 fish (30,000 species x 2)? And how did he feed all those fish?

Not that I'm doubting this ark story mind you. Its in the Bible after all, so it must be true. I'm just curious about a few technicalities. I'm sure you have good explanations for all of them.

You evil brain, you!!
Re: "How Large Was Noah's Ark?" by MrPresident1: 2:41pm On Jan 07, 2014
Noah's story is an allegory. Noah is a cover name for the Elect. Righteous men.

You don't understand yet you make jest. The prophesied times are upon us now. If anyone is interested, Read Ezekiel 14 to confirm that Noah is not a single man and the story is thus an allegory.

2Peter 2:12
But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;
Re: "How Large Was Noah's Ark?" by rahjan: 2:42pm On Jan 07, 2014
Only God can explain dis things. The fact that we do not understand yet does not make it untrue. Men can not fly, this was a truth 4r people in the 1600s but today, we know better. Even science cannot explain everything. For instance, those who say there is no supreme diety can still not explain the origin of the first man and woman who came about without se xual inter course. If we evolved from apes, how did the apes come about? Or why havent we started showing traces of evolving into somethingelse if there was a big bang, scientists should prove it to us by showing us a controlled mini experimement were chaos can lead to order and the formation of new life. Science can still not explain (without contradictions) simple everyday pphenomenon like where dreams come from or why we age only in one direction or where our consciousness go when we sleep or when we die.
my point? Its simply that if I cannot explain how noahs ark worked, its only part of many things no one has been able to explain and shouldnt be a basis for debunking the bible.

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Re: "How Large Was Noah's Ark?" by AjaoMT2: 2:43pm On Jan 07, 2014
Evil Brain: How did Noah fit 2 million insects (1 million species x 2) into the ark? And how did be manage to fit 12,000 amphibians, 20,000 birds, 11,000 mammals, 16,000 reptiles and god knows how many crustaceans, arachnids and mollusks into a boat that must have already been overflowing with insects? Where did he find space to keep a years worth of food for all those animals? How did he keep the meat for the Lions, tigers and other carnivores fresh for a whole year? Why did he take mosquitoes, tapeworms, guinea worms and the HIV virus aboard the ark? Did he infect himself with all those parasites, or did he force his wife and children to carry them? How come all the animals didn't freeze to death at 9,000 metres altitude (the height of Mount Everest which must have been underwater) Where did they find oxygen to breathe at that height? What did all the animals eat after getting off the ark? All the plants must have died after a year underwater, and all the animals would have drowned so no food for herbivores or carnivores. How come all the fish in the ocean survived? Saltwater fish can't survive in freshwater and the ocean would have been massively diluted with all that rain. Or did the ark also have a salty fish tank with space for 60,000 fish (30,000 species x 2)? And how did he feed all those fish?

Not that I'm doubting this ark story mind you. Its in the Bible after all, so it must be true. I'm just curious about a few technicalities. I'm sure you have good explanations for all of them.

Remember that the earth then was not as it is now. Notice the gradual shortening of the human lifespan after the flood. Remember also that it was after this flood that men started eating other animals Gen. (9:3). Before then mankind were eating plants. Also note that it was not just the rainfall that caused the flood but multiple tsunamis Gen. (8:2). Some scientists believe that the water above the firmament that God separated in Gen. 1 shielded man from the effect of harmful radiation- hence the shortening of lifespan after the flood. There is so much we don't know, but don't let us use current understanding or phenomena to judge what happened then.

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Re: "How Large Was Noah's Ark?" by AjaoMT2: 2:54pm On Jan 07, 2014
phuck_NL:

A lot of people do not dispute GOD. Most just BELIEVE that the PEOPLE who wrote RELIGIOUS books LIED/Spiced up things to get people to believe them. The flood probably happened and the ark was probably built. It was probably localized to a certain region and he probably saved a handful of domesticated animals which the writers than exaggerated to include the entire world.

With regards, to carbon dating, trust me its at least 95% accurate. You only need a 50% accuracy to realize that the dates stated by those who wrote religious books is wrong. They simply wrote what they taught was right at the time without evidence to back it up. Same thing with the RAINBOW story. Most of these things were basically what they taught at the time and they then coined it into religious books. I believe in my GOD but I do not believe the lies in all religious books. I believe if I am good to myself and my fellow man I will make heaven regardless of what anyone thinks. I do not have to pray through anyone and I do not have to go to any institution or read any book to know that being GOOD is the right thing.


The problem with carbon dating is that it is based on the premise that the amount of carbon in the atmosphere is constant. However, because of the flood, the amount of carbon in the atmosphere changed. That is why it is unreliable in this case.
Re: "How Large Was Noah's Ark?" by Ugonna321: 2:55pm On Jan 07, 2014
that is why He is called God..David said how difficult are your ways...
Re: "How Large Was Noah's Ark?" by Nobody: 3:09pm On Jan 07, 2014
I have a very little question though.

After the flood and the animals were allowed out of the ark, what did the carnivorous animals eat?

I mean, what did the lions, hyenas, wolves, cats, tigers, cheetahs (all flesh eating animals) etc. What did they feed on? They couldn't have eaten the goats, zebras, gazelles, that had just exited the ark because that would have led to the immediate extinction of these animals.

So please can someone tell me exactly what the carnivores ate for the next 3 years after they left the ark?

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Re: "How Large Was Noah's Ark?" by aceTS: 3:09pm On Jan 07, 2014
kado:
Why did he save snakes? Pls.i need answers?

lol....I guess he forgot what happened in the garden of eden.
Re: "How Large Was Noah's Ark?" by Nobody: 3:15pm On Jan 07, 2014
If people of our present generation could actually believe in ridiculous primitive stories told to cave men thousands of years ago, I'm afraid they all need to get their heads examined.
Re: "How Large Was Noah's Ark?" by naijaboyof4life(m): 3:16pm On Jan 07, 2014
Evil Brain: How did Noah fit 2 million insects (1 million species x 2) into the ark? And how did be manage to fit 12,000 amphibians, 20,000 birds, 11,000 mammals, 16,000 reptiles and god knows how many crustaceans, arachnids and mollusks into a boat that must have already been overflowing with insects? Where did he find space to keep a years worth of food for all those animals? How did he keep the meat for the Lions, tigers and other carnivores fresh for a whole year? Why did he take mosquitoes, tapeworms, guinea worms and the HIV virus aboard the ark? Did he infect himself with all those parasites, or did he force his wife and children to carry them? How come all the animals didn't freeze to death at 9,000 metres altitude (the height of Mount Everest which must have been underwater) Where did they find oxygen to breathe at that height? What did all the animals eat after getting off the ark? All the plants must have died after a year underwater, and all the animals would have drowned so no food for herbivores or carnivores. How come all the fish in the ocean survived? Saltwater fish can't survive in freshwater and the ocean would have been massively diluted with all that rain. Or did the ark also have a salty fish tank with space for 60,000 fish (30,000 species x 2)? And how did he feed all those fish?

Not that I'm doubting this ark story mind you. Its in the Bible after all, so it must be true. I'm just curious about a few technicalities. I'm sure you have good explanations for all of them.

First Not all the species we have today were made then. Insects did not come really until the plague on egypt. and animals have a family
tree. for example. Dog, from dog, came cayote, wolf, etc. But all animals had a father and mother and so depending, but as time went on, there was variation.
Re: "How Large Was Noah's Ark?" by Nobody: 3:17pm On Jan 07, 2014
pDude: I have a very little question though.

After the flood and the animals were allowed out of the ark, what did the carnivorous animals eat?

I mean, what did the lions, hyenas, wolves, cats, tigers, cheetahs (all flesh eating animals) etc. What did they feed on? They couldn't have eaten the goats, zebras, gazelles, that had just exited the ark because that would have led to the immediate extinction of these animals.

So please can someone tell me exactly what the carnivores ate for the next 3 years after they left the ark?

I'm afraid your questions will not be answered. Our bible believing brothers will beat about the bush to give you an outrageous answer or probably dodge your comment.

Good luck on getting an answer
Re: "How Large Was Noah's Ark?" by Nobody: 3:20pm On Jan 07, 2014
mad nigerian: [size=29pt]Could Noah's Ark Hold all the Animals?[/size]

One issue that is often raised against Christianity is Noah's Ark and the Flood. Did it really happen? Did the flood really cover the whole world? Is there enough water on earth to cover all the land? Could the ark really hold two of every kind of animal in the world? Though these might be intimidating questions, the answer to each is a resounding, "Yes."

God said to Noah in Genesis 6:14-16, "So make yourself an ark of cypress wood; make rooms in it and coat it with pitch inside and out. This is how you are to build it: The ark is to be 450 feet long, 75 feet wide and 45 feet high. Make a roof for it and finish the ark to within 18 inches of the top. Put a door in the side of the ark and make lower, middle and upper decks" (NIV). According to God's Word, Noah built the ark. Eight people entered it and all humanity died in the ensuing flood.

Did the flood really happen? Yes. Jesus said in Matt. 24:37-39 that the flood happened. If you can't trust Jesus, you can't trust anyone. As far as physical evidence goes there are numerous sedimentary deposits world-wide which suggest a universal flood. There are countless fossil deposits world-wide (fossilization occurs when organisms are buried rapidly within sediment.). Every major culture has a flood legend. Of over 200 flood legends, 95% say the flood was universal; 70% say survival depended upon a boat; 66% say the wickedness of man was the cause; 88% say there was a favored family; 66% say the remnant was warned; 67% say animals were also saved; 57% say the survivors ended up on a mountain; 35% say birds were sent out; 9% say eight people were saved; and 7% mention a rainbow.

Is there enough water to flood the entire earth? Absolutely! If the earth were perfectly spherical the oceans would cover all the land by more than a mile in depth. The biblical account is that it rained for 40 days and nights in which the floodgates of the heavens were opened up as well as the fountains from the earth (Gen. 7:11;8:2). There is a theory known as the canopy theory that states it had never rained on the earth up to the time of Noah and that a mist watered the plants (Gen. 2:6). The theory goes on to state that there may have been a heavy cloud or water vapor layer over the entire earth and that it was this canopy of water that became torrential rains during the flood period.

Did the flood cover all the earth? Yes it did. The depth of the flood waters is described in Gen. 7:19 as covering "all the high mountains under the entire heavens." Also, there are many references in the Bible to it being global: Gen. 6:1,4-5,12,13,17,19;7:4,6,10,19;8:3;9:15. There were 40 days of rain (Gen. 7:12), 110 days of flooding (Gen. 7:24) and 221 more days of draining (Gen. 8:1-5,13-14). That is a total of 371 days of flooding. That could not be a local flood.

Could the ark really contain all the animals of the world? Again the answer is "Yes." But let's look at the last question in more detail. The ark took about 120 years to build. Noah was 480 years old when he began the work and he had the help of his wife, three sons, and his son's wives. He probably hired local people to help in the construction.

The dimensions of the ark have a ratio of six to one. The Ark was six times longer than it was wide. This is the best ratio for modern ship building. Model stability tests have shown that the design is stable for waves up to 200 feet high and that the ark could have rotated 90 degrees and still righted itself.

The volume of the ark would be 450 feet long by 75 feet wide by 45 feet high. This equals 1,518,750 cubic feet and is comparable to 569 modern railroad boxcars. Therefore each boxcar, by comparison, would be 1,518,750 divided by 569, or 2,669 cubic feet of space. The average size of an animal on the earth is smaller than a cat. But, just to keep it safe let's consider the average size of an animal to be a sheep. The average double deck stock car holds 240 sheep. The Ark capacity would be about 569 x 240 equaling 136,560 animals of that size. However, that still is not accurate for our needs. Since most birds, reptiles, and amphibians are much smaller, let's double the boxcar capacity for them. Therefore, the boxcars could each hold 480 different kinds of birds, reptiles, amphibians.

Noah had to take two or seven of every kind of animal on the earth. Though it is not really known exactly what is meant by a biblical kind, it is generally considered to be animals that are fertile within their own groups. Any dog can breed with any dog, therefore, dogs are one kind. It would only be necessary to bring representatives of each kind since the parents could produce offspring that would carry the genetic information for all variations within their kind.

Classification . . . . Number of Species . . . . Number of Kinds on the Ark
Mammals . . . . . . . . .3,700 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3,700 (a few live in water).
Birds . . . . . . . . . . . . 8,600 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 60,200 (seven pairs according to Gen. 7:3)
Reptiles. . . . . . . . . . .6,300 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6,300
Amphibians. . . . . . . .2,500 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2,500
Fishes. . . . . . . . . . . .20,600. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .zero
Other marine life . . . 192,605. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .zero
Insects . . . . . . . . . . . 850,000 . . . (Since insects are very small, and a great many could be stored in a small area, calculation would be difficult.)
Total . . . . . . . . . . . .1,072,305 . . . . . . . . . . . . .72,700
The total number of mammals would be 3,700 times two pair which equals 7,400 animals. 7,400 divided by 240 = 31 boxcars used.

Since Gen. 7:3 says to take seven pairs of every bird then the total for birds would be 8,600 times two pair times 7 or 120,400 animals. 120,400 x 480 = 250 boxcars. The reptiles and amphibians would be 6,300 plus 2,500 or 8,800. 8,800 times two pair equals 17,600 animals. 17,600 divided by 480 = 37 boxcars.

The total number of boxcars used would be 318 with a total number of animals at 145,400. There would be 251 boxcars left over. That means that only 56% of the ark would be used for storing the animals. Obviously, then, the rest of the space would be used for food for the people and animals and sleeping quarters. In addition, considering that insects are extremely small, it is easily conceivable that they could be housed in part of the remaining space.

It should also be considered that many animals can hibernate. Additionally, predators and prey have been known to live peacefully together during situations of stress like fire, flood, or earthquake. In the Ark, animal behavior probably would have been different from normal daily life. Specialists in animal behavior have noted that animals can sense danger and have often migrated to escape it. Perhaps God used their migratory instincts to get them to the Ark.

Though this is only a brief analysis, it should present enough evidence that the Ark account is certainly within the realm of possibility.



SOURCE: [url]http://carm.org/could-noahs-ark-hold-all-animals

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I liKe how you calculated this. Now let us talk about the logistics.

The ark was built for 120 years buy Noah and his sons right? So all this while, how were they gathering food that will feed all the animals. Who went hunting for all the meat that the carnivores would eat? Who farmed the grains that all the grain eating birds and animals would eat. What about the herbivores? How did their food gathering go about? Also how big were the farms that grew the grains that would cater for all the animals?

Also let us talk about the storage of these items. How was the meat for all these thousands of carnivores stored prior to the flood. Also how were the grains stored also? How were the grass and fodder for the herbivores stored?

Also if the ark was built to save all the aquatic species, that means it had to have an indoor aquarium in which they would store enormous whales, sharks, crabs, shrimp, fishes, snails, hydra, octopus, squids, etc. And how exactly did Noah get a whale into the ark? Also how was he able to catch the sharks and transfer them into the ark? Also if he happened to store all the aquatic species in an indoor aquarium, how did he feed them? Sharks are voracious predators and how come the shark didn't eat all the other fishes inside this indoor aquarium?

Also who went to get the phytoplanktons and zooplanktons that the lower aquatic animals would feed? And how was the plankton meals stored?

Also let us look into the logistics of feeding these "thousands" of animals for 1 year:

So 8 people were able to conveniently feed all these animals for one year and ensure that they all ate to their full without preying on other animals? Ok. So while doing all these chores, when did Noah and family have time to prepare their own meals, get some rest and spend time together as a family, and all the while keeping these animals from attacking each other?


Please can someone supply me with these answers. Thanks.

Noah and his family must have been superhuman to be able to have kept up with all the duties they had to fulfill

Re: "How Large Was Noah's Ark?" by Nobody: 3:23pm On Jan 07, 2014
naijaboyof4life:

First Not all the species we have today were made then. Insects did not come really until the plague on egypt. and animals have a family
tree. for example. Dog, from dog, came cayote, wolf, etc. But all animals had a father and mother and so depending, but as time went on, there was variation.

Are you serious?!!Belief in god has really made man dump..... The bible definitely was given to us to destroy our African minds ....yours is an evidence.

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Re: "How Large Was Noah's Ark?" by Pelumiv(m): 3:40pm On Jan 07, 2014
Look at it this way. Prior to the flood, was there rain? but it rain cat and dog making a deluge that floods the earth. If God can make it rain for such days, am sure he can provide a way to rescue the animals through Noah's Ark.

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