Only if you go agaist the law of sharia!

The sharia law doesnt say u dhould cut people's part for no reason.There are grounds and limits for these laws

@ weseleyanA u have to understand greatpeter right ok? He never said that part of the childs body should be cut off, he only said that the child should be taken to one of the sharia states , thats all....... so i don't think there is anything eveil there.

....and why should the child be taken to a sharia state? Any reason? Diplomats

Yeah!!! there is reason. He should be taken to sharia state, so that the will stop him form stealing, cos they know how to avoid children from stealing there.................

In addition when he sees what and what are obtainable there he will bow.

Having heard it and having seen a victim will definitely kill that demon making him to steal.

GP, would you really want your childm or any child to see what they do in those states?

Hello weslayanA, it is not a bad thing for a child to see what is happening sharia state. Especially when the child steals, andhe/she is taken to one of those states :

Greatpeter:

In addition when he sees what and what are obtainable there he will bow.

Having heard it and having seen a victim will definitely kill that demon making him to steal.

WesleyanA:

GP, would you really want your childm or any child to see what they do in those states?

Yes I will.
Are you still dragging this issue?
If he sees the repercussion of a thief, he will definitely have a re-think.

My brodas and sistas, Snaria is definately not the issue. Has any of u seen a sharia victim b4? Has anyone of you been a witness in the execution of a sharia sentnce b4? I not most definately agaisnt it. There is nothing greater than the almight God and if he says he will do it, I suggest we stand strong in the belief and wait on him.

I will simply pray for him or send him to rehab. i won't let no child "da mi si free, ko wa yo chalk lese mi". That's wat my aunt used to say... meaning i won't let no child cause me pain, esp when she has done her part.

hot-angel:

........... "da mi si free, ko wa yo chalk lese mi".......

Haba HA..see what yankee has done to you. Its "da mi si free, ko wa yo "shok" lese mi". A common sayin by auto mech while changin a car tire. Nice proverb there anyway.

"Those things i want to do , i do not and those i do not want i find myself doing".
This is common to every man. I dont think Sharia is the best. he probably might be fightin it as well. How do we help such (advise, actions whatever). That is the issue.

Ok layi after doing all that and still no changes
you'll fold your arms and be watching?

When solution is right there at your backyard.

Seems u guys don't want to take my advice let me keep my mouth shut..................

i don't think children should be allowed to see stuff like that. it's worse than watching violence on TV. it's like making the problem worse.

Wesley, maybe greatpeter simply implies that when you take the child there and he sees what happens to people who steal, no one will tell him to stop.

de-King yeah thats it, u can understand better, we don't mean that the child should be taken there to be killed or whatever, but when the child gets there and sees happens there no one will tel him to stop stealing thats all..........

that's not a wise thing to do though. if a child has a bad habit of stealing, you don't know that would encourage him to go and cut off someone's arm when he gets older. on the other hand it might scare him and you don't know the psychological effect it will have on him/her. nightmares, emotional problems, if the child is really sensitive it might make him/her have mental problems. and when he/she does you say god is punishing him for stealing not knowing that you cause it. children should see stuff like that. it's worse than porn.
you should read "the professor and the madman" by winchester .

@wesley, you got a point there. But l can't help laughing while reading your last post coz here in Nija, they ain't gonna have any nightmares or emotional problems coz Nijas are strong.

My point still remains talking to him about the dangers and consequencies of stealing; and not forgetting praying for him.

Right on King Kong

If I have such a child (God forbid), I'll take him to a stealing school to acquire more skills.

_{Just kidding}

If I have such a child (God forbid), I'll take him to a stealing school to acquire more skills.

_{Just kidding}

muhahahahahaha

If the child is truly a kleptomaniac then I'd take him/her to see a shrink, seeing as it's a psychiatric condition.

That seems to be a smart, pragmatic step. When you've run out of ideas in any area of life, call an expert!

Hahahahaha Very funny. Taking the child to stealing shcol to acquire more skills........................

I stole as a child, quite alot, and things well over $15,000 were stolen by me. I was from a wealthy home (the abiola family was quite well to do those days) and yet I still stole, I became efficently good at it aswell, its something to do with the mind. When you want more than you have without compromising. Don't enforce the rights and wrongs upon your child, they'll become much more curious. The best you could do is hope, its like drugs, you can't force a child out of drugs, its them, their mind, their body, their spirit. Just hope for the best. Some white birds do turn out a tad grey. I turned out black,

hi, I think this topic is very important


because A child may steal for a number of reasons:

First, He steals because he does not know the difference between borrowing and stealing, and the concept of personal ownership is not clear in his mind.

Second,Some children steal because they are deprived of things that others have.

Finally, To take revenge on the parents or to attract their attention.

and My advice is Keep calm. Instead of rebuking him and putting him to shame, keep calm. This situation is an opportunity to teach your child.

Advise and exhort the child. Explain to him the Islamic rulings concerning stealing, and tell him that Allah says in His Book (interpretation of the meaning):

“Cut off (from the wrist joint) the (right) hand of the thief, male or female…)” [al-Maa’idah 5:38]

The Prophet  (peace and blessings of Allaah bAllah him) accepted the pledge of women, when they made bay’ah (oath of allegienceallegiancethat they would not steal, as Allaah sayAllaherpretation of the meaning):

“… that they will not steal…” [al-Mumtahinah 60:12].

Remind your child that Allaah is always watching. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“He is with you (by His Knowledge) wheresoever you may be” [al-Hadeed 57:4]

And Allaah says (interpretAllahof the meaning):

“… Allaah is Witness to what you do.” [Aal ‘Imraan 3:98]

Tell him: Allaah can see you even if you steal something in secret, far away from the view of people, because He says (interpretation of the meaning):
“He knows the secret and that which is yet more hidden.” [Ta-Ha 20:7]

Confront the child: you have to confront the child with the reason and motive for stealing. For example, you could say to him, “I know that you took candy from the store, and that you took it because you felt that you needed it, but stealing it was not the answer. Next time, if you want something, talk to me first. I know that you want to be honest.” Try to make the child see how others feel – “If you were in the place of the person whose property was stolen, how would you feel?”

Making the punishment severe, such as making the child return the stolen property and apologize, or making him pay the value of the item if it has been damaged or used up, whilst also depriving him of some privileges at home.

Supervising the child and not leaving him alone for a long time.

And Allaah is the Guide to the Straight Path.

when i was lil, i saw what they did to people when they stole something and it wasnt pretty
i wasnt tryna put myself in that situation (stealing was out of my vocabulary)
but ma cousin stole from her mother all the time, and i will help her spend the money

When you have a child that steals i think it is important to talk to that child, no shouting or anger, just talking so you can get the reason out why the child is doing and work on ways to stop it. If the child continues to steal. I think it is nessesary to call the police on the child to scare them out of it or do something else drastic.

I'm 15 but when i was about 13 i started stealing from stores and supermarkets with a friend. It went on for about 6 months, along with skipping school. When my mum finally found out by forcing it out of me, being a Nigerian parent she beat me! which only made matters worse and made me keep my stealing secret from her. One day feeling stupid i got into a fight with a woman and got arrested and had to give fingerprints, DNA, and had to attend court. At this point i started to see light that the police are not joking and they will mess up your file. Luckily the judge had pity on me and put me on a bound-over for 6 months then they agreed to rip up my file of common assualt. Believe it or not after all this was over, i carried on stealing! but the stealing got less and less and eventually i just stopped.

Young people need reality to shock them out of bad behaviour. There is a time in our life when we are stressed and we feel that being bad is the only joy we can get seeing as we are young and we won't get the full blame. Sitting in that police station for a few hours made me realise how serious it was. I felt like a criminal!

Prayer also helped me get over my stealing addiction (Another thing you have got to remember is that it is an addiction, just like drugs). if you pray over this child God will not ignore your pleas unless it is part of his plan. Remember we only see the smaller picture, He sees the bigger.

i'll teache the child not to setal again