tuoyoojo: Just heard on the news (indepedent television) that nma has gotten an industrial court order stopping the implemention of the joint health union's demands and asked all parties involved to shelf any industrial action until d matter is resolved in a d court. So maybe d strike may not hold

kachy:

You seem not to know the difference between radiographer and radiologist. Besides that, both do not work in laboratories. Google is your friend. Try visiting more often. And for the records, whenever anybody you know falls sick, make sure you don't visit a doctor since God would have probably finished punishing all the doctors by then.

gmyguy: when yáll run to india and the uk etc...to worship foreign doctors and spend all your family savings and church contributions. you forget how you ridicule your home grown docs. When you should be trying to make things better, so you don't have to go bankrupt to get good healthcare. Cry foul, all you want, till you need a doctor and see where the problem really lies, not in the doctor, but the stupid system we call a government.

omicron: Why would a nurse, lab scientist, pharmacist, radiographer, cleaner and orderly want to have the same privileges as medical doctors?

One day a Man O War will want to become the COAS.

We all have the same rights, but never same privileges.

armadeo:



Even a louder lol

Evergreen123:

e don happen before and hospitals functioned normally .
Na shame make Una cine back to work.
We have doctors in all health science specialties, u know that .

Evergreen123:

when they go abroad they still meet Nigerian docs.
Nigerian docs have just the same or even more expertise than foreign docs.
Nigerian hospitals are just not equipped, that's y we refer them abroad

cnwamo:
Hey..... Bros you can lie eh.... Which same or or even more expertise, be truthful Abeg.

phantom: our people are funny I tell you. Nigerian doctors are quacks yet Dora akunyili was diagnosed in Nigeria and misdiagnosed abroad.funny lot. fly your families out. the Nigerian doctors don't care anymore. we have lost your sympathy, so have you lost ours. during this strike, none of you should dare see a doctor whether public or private.go to the pharmacists and nurses.they ll sort you out. look at the rubbish Nigerians are saying about their doctors.pathetic.you can't cough where you senators, reps and governors are BUT you want to crucify one of the few groups of people who actually work everyday then you wonder why our country is in shambles.a people who worship criminals and demonise the hard working ones. I repeat anything you people see during this strike, endure it!

phantom: then prepare to go the way of Dora akunyili.

phantom: for the record after the doctor takes a history from his patient(asks questions about the patients complaints,duration,family history,drug history e.t.c) and examines the patient,the doctor pretty much has an idea what is wrong with the patient 85% of the time. labtests and radiological investigations are CONFIRMATORY. a good doctor hardly depends on these ancillary investigations. why would i need a lab investigation or an ultrasound scan to diagnose and treat acute appendicitis? i dont need lab work to treat malaria. that is why a doctor by virtue of his training is the key variable in the equation.

the doctors own the hospitals
the pharmacists own pharmaceutical companies. that is why i think a doctor SHOULD NOT HEAD NAFDAC FOR WHATEVER REASON.
standalone laboratories should be headed by lab technologists NOT labs that are part of hospitals

Evergreen123:

lie that u don't go there to see Nigerian trained docs or lie that we refer based on lack of facilities?

barcanista: How can Dokitas be superior when they do not own the Health Care Sector? ASUU like you pointed out is made of Academics from DIFFERENT fields in the Academia. I don't see any correlation here.
The Health Sector is made of different professionals with each having their distinctive roles. It is fair for Dokitas to give sanity a chance.

joker5180: 3) Skipping of salary GL 12 ( CONMESS 2) by doctors
federal ministry of health and some of it is agencies allowed it is staffs over the years to be skipping salary GL 11, this was noticed and stopped by the ministry few years ago but JOHESU went to NIC to challenge this action, the court admitted that the skipping eventhough made in error should be sustained, FG appeal this jugedment but ordered that JOHESU members should continue to skipp level 11.
NMA - since ALL health workers are skipping a salary GL it is members should also skipp a level ( 12) , head of service of the federation wrote to the minister of health informing that doctors should be allowed to skipp pending the outcome of the appeal. FOM refused to allow doctors to skipp without any explanation.

cnwamo:

Hey bro, your previous posts have been making sense but I have to fault you here, the doctor needs the medical team because he cannot do it on his own, yes you can make a tentative diagnosis for some disease conditions but we know major conditions need tests and xrays so if your sister were to be ill and in need of a blood transfusion, you would abandon what you had to do and run tests on her then donor and bleed the donor also right?, or when your friend has a closed fracture you would just treat him because you dont need the help of the radiographer to ascertain the nature of the fracture because you know it all right? would like to write a long note but let me state it here the patient needs the nurse as much as he needs the doctor as well as the lab tech.
The big difference between the Nigerian medical teams and those abroad is the doctors have an attitude problem...before you begin insulting me I'm a now a medical student and I'm speaking from first hand experience as a nurse for 5 years...

omicron: Your analogy is invalid within the context you have presented it.

The lecturers are to the universities what doctors are to the hospitals (and it is the ''hospital'' not ''health sector''). The guy you quoted rightly suggested that a librabrian (who is unarguably very important to the university system nonetheless) would not start bragging he should become the VC of the school, since he is a graduate too (but not a lecturer in the school).

The different fields of academia amongst ASUU reflects the various Specialties within Medicine (and not various professions within the hospitals), meaning that a professor of English for instance is no less an academic than a professor of Mathematics. Much like a Gynaecologist is no less a consultant doctor than, say, a Paediatrician.

It does not mean that a radiographer is at same level as a radiologist or that the chief midwife is same as an obstetrician. It does not mean a librarian is same as a physics lecturer.

They do not have same privileges as a result.

phantom: my brother i agree 100% with you but you ve missed my point. i am not taking anything away from the other health workers but my point is (in reply to the person who said doctors depend fully on labs and radiology) that CLINICALLY, we can diagnose our patients most times without these other investigations.
before the advent of the CT machine,doctors were able to differentiate between ischeamic and haemorrhagic stroke CLINICALLY. these days CT has made it easier.

Chidonc:

4 were abeg givd me reference oh

barcanista: The bold is so true. When Doctors went on their infamous strike in Lagos, Nurses showed us that the doctors are overrated. This strike is even a welcome development for other health professionals to work in peace and Nurses display their talents once again.
When NMA are tired they will come back to their senses

adahib:

I love this.... Then what is all the furore about? Everybody keeps saying the doctors are overrated, the know nothing,bla,bla. If this is true, then we all should be happy that they are going on strike. At least there are other more intelligent hospital staff to take care of our illnesses. Let's just ignore them and get on with our lives and see how it goes.hehehehe

bumfem:

Area boys masquerading as doctors. Nigerians have suffered in the hands of these disgruntled elements. NMArelevance is being vanished . I can see u guys are struggling to keep afloat.
A responsible ''union "rejoice at industrial action as some of u guys.
Doctors went on strike in lagos and ekiti, nurses covered effectively well without much ado.
who say docs are indispensable. Not all docs senseless though.I commend those that love the job not only for money but see it as a calling .
Many actually went to med schl to escape poverty.This informed there disdained attitude to colleague in other health profession.

Modern health care is delivered multidisciplinarily. Guess what, no one is a superman .We are all very important .Guess why Canada/UK continue to top best countries to live in. You obviously are not very enlightened as bout the clamouring of both waring bodies. All what the NMA is demanding is the minimum obtainable and acceptable standards world wide. Its only in your dear country you can find all these sort of rubbish because most people find themselves in position and don't Severn know their job descriptions.
If anyone wants to become a doctor then simply go back to school and fulfill your dreams. Stop cutting corners. Be proud of whatever it is that you do for a living. Simple!

NMA is creating it own healthcare protocol possible only in poverty ridden Africa.