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Re: false reasons why some people believe feminists hate men by ifyalways(f): 3:46pm On Jul 05, 2014
Greedy man. Grabbing two women all for yourself. Double chief. cheesy

Lovely pictures. Moreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Re: false reasons why some people believe feminists hate men by TheMadame(f): 3:46pm On Jul 05, 2014
Rule one.
Please post on topic. Dont derail or tribalize topics.

Rule 5.
Dont post pornographic or disgusting pictures on any section of Nairaland.

At least if you disagree with the OP you can open your own thread where you post pictures of half clad women.
Could you guys explain how these pictures in any way help this thread?

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Re: false reasons why some people believe feminists hate men by pickabeau1: 3:51pm On Jul 05, 2014
grin grin grin grin.... na just trips oooo

The madame
Dont be too serious please.. coco candy open thread, we posted eye candy

where are the porn pixs...

Last i checked..its a free world
Re: false reasons why some people believe feminists hate men by Nobody: 4:13pm On Jul 05, 2014

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Re: false reasons why some people believe feminists hate men by TheMadame(f): 4:13pm On Jul 05, 2014
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Okay. Peace enjoy yourselves.
Re: false reasons why some people believe feminists hate men by pickabeau1: 4:15pm On Jul 05, 2014
Nonso23... cool post

I wonder why radical feminism will now be seen as the outside group.

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Re: false reasons why some people believe feminists hate men by Nobody: 4:20pm On Jul 05, 2014
Re: false reasons why some people believe feminists hate men by pickabeau1: 4:31pm On Jul 05, 2014
Nonso23:
It beats me and it beats logic.
How can something 'be' and not 'be' at the same time??
The 'radicals' are just as feminist as the word sounds.
It's just like saying the eggwhite is rotten and the yolk fresh.
Very reasonable ..... Or Not


LOL... grin grin

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Re: false reasons why some people believe feminists hate men by cococandy(f): 5:21pm On Jul 05, 2014
So simple.
It can't be likened to rocket science smiley

Everyother thing is propaganda(in the politicians' voices)
EnlightenedSoul:

Lol what the heck, tho undecided

1) No, I don't hate men
2) No, I do not want to be a man.
3) I love being a woman.
4) I am feminine.
5) Your masculinity is not a threat.
6) My objective is the legal and societal equality of women.
7) Unless you can argue that 6 is unfair, what is your problem?
8. If 6 is unfair to you, tell me why and how?

Lets all be clear here.
Re: false reasons why some people believe feminists hate men by cococandy(f): 5:27pm On Jul 05, 2014
Cool post damiso kiss
Re: false reasons why some people believe feminists hate men by Nobody: 5:49pm On Jul 05, 2014
Nonso23: About a century or more back into our past we had horses/beasts of burden to move us from one place to another. There arose certain problems.
The horse/animal can get tired.
They could carry very little load.
Riding them for long periods was relatively uncomfortable. Etc ,etc
Then someone thought about a motor vehicle. Its intended functions:
Speed
Comfort
Flexibility
Load carrying capacity. Etc, etc
The first car met only certain number of these requirements and consequently had to be improved upon.
A century later, we have cars running at 300+mph - the veyron for instance.
We have trucks that can move incredible loads in short periods.
We have flexible haulage arrangements but...
How fast is fast enough?
How big is big enough?
How flexible is flexible enough?

The truth is car makers don't care anymore. They have lost sight of the major reasons a car was ever thought into existence in the first place. To them it's just a competition between their super engines and those of their rivals.
Some cars run on engines with horsepower ratings that can power a small plane What for?

Why the analogy?
Feminism is that car.
Good intentions from the onset but thwarted into something else down the road. Funnily these thwarts are now considered the real reasons for feminism - they aren't wrong, afterall the veyron is still called a car.
To attempt in anyway to disregard these new offshoots of feminism as non feminist is tantamount to living in denial.
These new offshoots are what is doing the damage. The upgraded version of feminism. The selfish version, the man hating version, the double-standard loving version, the family ruining version but it is still feminism? Isn't it.
We don't curse a fruit, we curse the tree that bore it. Same goes for man-hating feminism.

Pray which society is this analogy based on? You're describing Western advancement! The need for feminism is still here (in the West) in the opinions of many, and can be opened to debate. On the other hand, African societies are so obviously still in the Donkey Kart stage, that to hear you speak of Veyrons and super engines is almost cause for amusement.

It's differentiated as an "offshoot" and a FRINGE for a reason. It is not feminism.

What kind of trees were you growing? We've fruit trees in our backyard, grown with love and care. If one picks a bad fruit from a healthy tree, only the failed farmer and the fool would curse that tree for all it's good fruit. Shemurrrrr.

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Re: false reasons why some people believe feminists hate men by Nobody: 6:07pm On Jul 05, 2014
cococandy: So simple.
It can't be likened to rocket science smiley

Everyother thing is propaganda(in the politicians' voices)

And yet, nothing but half-baked analogies undecided So much idle side conversations on carnival pics, an inexplicable fascination for Amber Rose, and the downplay of oppression in mocking tones.

It boggles the mind smiley
Re: false reasons why some people believe feminists hate men by Nobody: 6:23pm On Jul 05, 2014
Re: false reasons why some people believe feminists hate men by pickabeau1: 6:24pm On Jul 05, 2014
EnlightenedSoul:

And yet, nothing but half-baked analogies undecided So much idle side conversations on carnival pics, an inexplicable fascination for Amber Rose, and the downplay of oppression in mocking tones.

It boggles the mind smiley


welcome to the family section

You really are new here
Re: false reasons why some people believe feminists hate men by Nobody: 6:35pm On Jul 05, 2014
Re: false reasons why some people believe feminists hate men by baby124: 6:40pm On Jul 05, 2014
No real man will feel insecure about a feminist. A real feminist simply wants the opportunity to be the best she can be while protecting the interests of females. It can be in cases of social, political and economic well being. I don't see why that should threaten any man. For the reasons are valid. Because of these so called feminists, women are able to work in the corporate world and become CEO's on their own merit.

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Re: false reasons why some people believe feminists hate men by damiso(f): 6:43pm On Jul 05, 2014
pickabeau1: Lailai.... this is our eye candy thread
I am looking for some of my oics from my calabar carnival tour years back courtesy dantesdasz

candy is candy

I have been enjoying the mundial though i woke up to the sad news that neymar is not playing again cry cry cry cry cry

I hope they can best the Germans on Tuesday

I now regret not going... cry cry cry



Stop posting indecency tongue and open your own eye candy thread

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Re: false reasons why some people believe feminists hate men by pickabeau1: 6:44pm On Jul 05, 2014
damiso:

Stop posting indecency tongue and open your own eye candy thread

I have stopped posting for now except on request

grin grin grin grin
Re: false reasons why some people believe feminists hate men by Idowuogbo(f): 7:24pm On Jul 05, 2014
pickabeau1: LOL..

it is well

How is the family and work

Family and work dey, we thank God.

My iyawo and aburo(s) nko? I hope you are spoiling them with the overload wey dey account ooo
Re: false reasons why some people believe feminists hate men by Nobody: 7:31pm On Jul 05, 2014
Dantedasz: Now dats more like it men. I am begining to like this thread. Just hot and steamy as I like my women.
I bet none of these women is interested in discussing the merits or demerits of feminism.
I like this Dante dude. grin
Re: false reasons why some people believe feminists hate men by Nobody: 7:33pm On Jul 05, 2014
Nonso23:
The same society 99.9% of all the man hate in this section is directed towards. The same society women with equal social rights as men label the opposite gender - deadbeat et al.
Scour deeper, would you?

Of course it's almost amusing to hear a Nigerian (African) speak of a veyron. grin That is the problem with people who rely on social media for their immediate knowlegde of the continent and read all those racist books that propagate falsehoods such as: Africans eat banana and speak 'ape-glish' and maltreat their women to the extent they become next to the home's favourite dog used to being fed crumbs daily.
FYI, Unless you have been to Nigeria, experienced living in Nigeria, you will forever be at sea as to the dynamics of our inter-gender relationships. Or maybe it's comforting for you to think the worst of the 'dark continent' - regale by all means. cheesy

'Offshoots' is relative. The first stem that breaks through the seed coat is an offshoot off the seed. This offshoot becomes the big tree with bad fruit and i don't know what else is left of the rotted seed to compete with this really intimidating offshoot as to relegate it to the position of fringe. How hilarious.

It's almost amusing to hear you speak of trees given that everything must be chrome where you live.
An entire tree may produce sour fruits and then even the best harvester would fail marvellously at picking any good fruits.
Everything must really be chrome where you stay for you to not know that.
Shemurrr too... What ever that means....

Please spare me the man-hate talk, I see no man-hate here. Like I've said before, you can go and find a misandrist for that.

You are twisting my words! I don't need to rely on social media and read "racist" books because I'm African myself and have visited several African countries. I don't know what you think I am. Tbh, I find it troubling to see you self-propagate the images you described. And as a side-note, I love bananas! Back to the Veyron, that was YOUR analogy. You were describing the European progression of feminism using a European product, when we were clearly discussing our own societies. The Veyron can in no way describe African feminism and it's progression, because there has been no real spark...to date. And it's not like Veyrons are littering African roads for you to be offended at the literal, which is wayyyyy off point from what I was speaking of, that one wonders why you latched on that instead of the proper argument at hand.

Second, I never described women as second to dogs. Why you guys choose to assert ridiculous notions like possible abuse by my male relatives, or likening females to dogs is beyond me. Those are your words, so you tell me.

I've not been to Nigeria. I'm an African and I have friends from across the continent, but I myself am from clear across the other side of the continent from you, so I'm in no way being specific to Nigeria. If you want to be specific to Nigeria, you have lovely full-blooded Nigerian women living in Nigeria on here to discuss that with you. When I speak, I speak in general terms.

Nope, offshoot is not relative. Just because an idea originates from another, it does not mean you can equate the offshoot with the original idea, else there would be no need to make the distinction! It's comparable to sects of a religion, which originate from a core idea but are so varied, distinct and numerous so as to be alien to one another. And yes, offshoot is a generous word. Fringe is more apt.

Misandrists are a group all their own. There are misogynist men who hate women, and it is these two that share a camp with one another. If a misandrist embraces feminism, that is her deal!

Lol @ chrome. We have plenty of trees. Trees are everything. If you refer back, you'd notice that I described a healthy tree. A healthy tree to signify the positive intention of the movement at its core.

If your trees are giving you sour fruits, then there's something you need to do about that.
Re: false reasons why some people believe feminists hate men by pickabeau1: 7:43pm On Jul 05, 2014
Eshe pupo... they have no choice than to be chopping my money

Stay blessed

grin grin
Idowuogbo:
Family and work dey, we thank God.

My iyawo and aburo(s) nko? I hope you are spoiling them with the overload wey dey account ooo
Re: false reasons why some people believe feminists hate men by bukatyne(f): 7:44pm On Jul 05, 2014
damiso: Abeg make una go open another thread for una eyecandy tongue Mr pickabeau and co were you not supposed to be watching the beautiful game tongue

Hi lorretta I just thought to comment to add my two cents.I read the article and even if did not read I think I have shared on these boards that I studied Femininsm from the academic view point(my final year degree project was on feminism in Islam) and I wrote and researched my project myself(too stingy to pay 50k to get someone to write it for me lol grin) so i studied it and know the reasons for the advent of the movement.So yeah your article makes valid points but I just want to digress a bit.

I think I read somewhere you said one of the things that made you embrace the feminist ideology was that you were denied a position you were more qualified for simply because you were a girl.That is not on but I will share my own experiences which is similar to that of a lot of girls I know and as such why I don't think not nececesarily wanting to be called a feminist in any way means you believe women should be shackled.

I grew up around very very strong women in positions of authority.My paternal grandmother was not western educated Infact she sold pepper in her local market(you know those big time pepper traders that had to go the north) and gradually became the iyaloja(I think its called head of market in English) of her neck of the woods and male local government chairmen had to defer to her.My mum is from ijebu and I am not lying when I say ALOT of the women from her side of the family are extremely strong women(there is even an unfair stereotype that ijebu women jazz their husbands grin) women who were never treated inferior both at home and in the workplace.My mum rose to management level of a govt parastatal and at the time of her leaving the MD was female,they had female executive directors and a lot of women around me were just doing as well as the men.My primary school proprietress was female and was in a position of authority over the headmaster who was male.My secondary school principal was female with a male vice so I had examples of females in authority around me and as such was not even an issue of women always being beneath men.


As I have shared on here I was also lucky to have a father who helped myself and my sister believe in ourselves,My brother is the only boy and he was never treated like he was better than us, my mum would send him to go grind pepper and my dad would tell me to go put on the generator so it was never a gender issue in our household but who was available at the time.My brother used to grumble though that none of his friends were sent to grind pepper when there girls or house help in the house(was apparently picking it up in their houses grin) but that was his business cos my parents never listened grin. My grandmother was the first child of her father and had equal inheritance as her brothers.My mum even though from a polygamous background had as much say in what happened as her brothers and in short decisions were not made without her input.My grandmother resisted being married off to my grandfathers brother after his death and nobody did anything to her.


I was head of literary and debating society in primary /secondary school,my deputy was a boy.I was also part of the quiz team and sometimes led us to quiz competitions.We had head boy and head girl and they were both as influential as the other(went to mixed secondary school).Male and female prefects were the same.I led teams (as long as I was the more capable person) and so maybe I was lucky and shielded a bit from that patriarchal construct of males being ahead of females growing up but it truly was never an issue for me. I was just taught to be the best I could be,run my own race,not let anybody try to bruise my self esteem,believe in myself and not feel entitled.I believe those ideals are what is best we teach our children(both genders)and not try to teach the girl child that you might to have always fight for respect and the boy child you are inherently better.I have one of each gender and I hope We are able to impart those values into them.










@Damiso,

Hi

I believe all that was possible because consciously or unconsciously, they all believed men and women are equal and acted as such

Infact, it was when I got to the university that I really saw women treated as beneath men etc. In my secondary school, boys & girls served the same punishment, washed plates together, darkened the board together, received the same beatings, etc.


It is more of a mind thing. Treating kids equally will do the trick
Re: false reasons why some people believe feminists hate men by bukatyne(f): 7:52pm On Jul 05, 2014
TheMadame: Rule one.
Please post on topic. Dont derail or tribalize topics.

Rule 5.
Dont post pornographic or disgusting pictures on any section of Nairaland.

At least if you disagree with the OP you can open your own thread where you post pictures of half clad women.
Could you guys explain how these pictures in any way help this thread?

They want all women to be like amber rose and the half naked girls in the pictures

And yet if they see any of their relatives like this, na wahala be that!

#Were dun wo, o se bi lomo

A mad person is sweet to watch but cannot be had as a child
Re: false reasons why some people believe feminists hate men by Nobody: 8:14pm On Jul 05, 2014
Re: false reasons why some people believe feminists hate men by troy20(m): 8:22pm On Jul 05, 2014
well "a man needs a woman like a bycicle needs a fish"cant remember who made that quote though but he is Legend.and i just picked a side.Death! to feminists.chant along guys.
Re: false reasons why some people believe feminists hate men by damiso(f): 8:29pm On Jul 05, 2014
bukatyne:

@Damiso,

Hi

I believe all that was possible because consciously or unconsciously, they all believed men and women are equal and acted as such

Infact, it was when I got to the university that I really saw women treated as beneath men etc. In my secondary school, boys & girls served the same punishment, washed plates together, darkened the board together, received the same beatings, etc.


It is more of a mind thing. Treating kids equally will do the trick






Hi bukatyne

I agree that treating kids equally helps because as I said it was not until later university I think that I perceived this women are oppressed thing.

I actually dont think all African women suddenly embracing feminism is the solution to the problem as the movement (whether we call them fringe or not ) have had the radical ones being a the more vocal parties especially in the west.Even Alice walker coined another term "womanism" just to distance themselves from the rhetoric of the more radical elements.They just whine and moan about silly things now like I have the right to be naked or why is beyonce calling herself Mrs Carter cos she sang independent women ages ago cheesy


I know its not a popular opinion but women themselves in a way have actually perpuatated this subjugation by being their own worst enemies.Alot of Naija women (not all) really really do not mind the patriarchal construct.I have had so many women say they prefer a male lecturer or boss to a female one even when its obvious that the male one might not necessarily be the better more qualified candidate.I had a female boss that alot of people hated.Gosh people hated v soo much "see her carry work ontop head' " dont go and marry' " no wonder she is not married' and most of these were by women.I wont lie I thought she was overly harsh when I worked with her from afar but when i was seconded to head office and worked more closely with her I just realised she was a stickler for excellent work ethic no time for excuses. But those girls prefered the male managers who they would just be laughing with, taking extended lunches while they flicked their weaves and laughed sheepishly because they knew those feminine wiles wont work on V.


Some naija women actually like the idea of them using their feminity to get what they want so I think we are on a long thing if we think embracing feminism will solve the problem.Take a typical naija gal out (me included back in the day grin) and ask her to go dutch shocked na automatic loser dat guy go be.Its a gradual process but believe me I don't think feminism can change the status quo when the percieved opressed like using bottom power wink


Really of my set that graduated like 80% of the girls got jobs before the guys.No jokes and this is first hand experience. Some of the girls deserved to get jobs by merit but another number were aristo chics who got plush jobs through their highly placed sugar daddies.

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Re: false reasons why some people believe feminists hate men by coogar: 8:31pm On Jul 05, 2014
baby_123: No real man will feel insecure about a feminist. A real feminist simply wants the opportunity to be the best she can be while protecting the interests of females. It can be in cases of social, political and economic well being. I don't see why that should threaten any man. For the reasons are valid. Because of these so called feminists, women are able to work in the corporate world and become CEO's on their own merit.

queen victoria(the greatest female ruler in the history of mankind) must have been very insecure when she made this quote.....

"I love peace and quiet, I hate politics and turmoil. We women are not made for governing, and if we are good women, we must dislike these masculine occupations. There are times which force one to take interest in them, and I do, of course intensely

I am most anxious to enlist everyone who can speak or write to join in checking this mad, wicked folly of 'Women's Rights', with all its attendant horrors, on which her poor feeble sex is bent, forgetting every sense of womanly feelings and propriety.

Feminists ought to get a good whipping. Were woman to 'unsex' themselves by claiming equality with men, they would become the most hateful, heathen and disgusting of beings and would surely perish without male protection."

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Re: false reasons why some people believe feminists hate men by pickabeau1: 8:31pm On Jul 05, 2014
Buka.. using uncomplimentary language to prove points runs counter to your dogma of religion here
Why refer to people as mad
I was the one who posted amber rose and she is a beautiful woman..im entitled to post it

remember cursing is not a prerogative of anyone



bukatyne:

They want all women to be like amber rose and the half naked girls in the pictures

And yet if they see any of their relatives like this, na wahala be that!

#Were dun wo, o se bi lomo

A mad person is sweet to watch but cannot be had as a child
Re: false reasons why some people believe feminists hate men by bukatyne(f): 8:35pm On Jul 05, 2014
pickabeau1: Buka.. using uncomplimentary language to prove points runs counter to your dogma of religion here
Why refer to people as mad
I was the one who posted amber rose and she is a beautiful woman..im entitled to post it

remember cursing is not a prerogative of anyone




Bros,

I do get strength for talk tonight (at least not merry go round ones)

Who called someone mad or have you not heard that proverb before (pardon my Yoruba)

Kim K and Amber Rose have suddenly become role models because they do not mention feminism?

I laugh in greek

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Re: false reasons why some people believe feminists hate men by Nobody: 8:37pm On Jul 05, 2014
Re: false reasons why some people believe feminists hate men by coogar: 8:44pm On Jul 05, 2014
Nonso23:
.....words fail me.....
her predictions... our reality, unfortunately.

this is why it's almost pointless to be arguing about feminism on NL. one of the greatest women in the history of mankind has drawn a line under the evil movement.

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