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Re: A Thread For Keyboardists by peacemaranatha(m): 11:26pm On Jul 21, 2014
Pls help beginners here. I only know one cord & use it to play hymns d cord is on middle c. Pls someone shld shed light on 7th 13th e.t.C cords do cords have orders. Then i play hymns but i dont knw hw to play to praises. Pls can anyone guide me on this i will quickly grab. Praises are fast songs & dont knw hw to play. Pls i nid help or if there is any materials that can help pls my mail is peacemaranatha54@gmail.Com
Re: A Thread For Keyboardists by goddysweb: 11:42pm On Jul 21, 2014
If you listen to music, you’ve definitely heard a
“2-5-1″ progression. They are found in just about
any type of music — regardless of style, genre, or
rhythmical pattern. It is commonly the series of
chords that end a song or phrase. However, it can
be used in several situations (I can only go over a
few in this lesson but encourage you to check out
my course for further instruction).

In this chord progression, the 2 chord (you’ll learn
what this is later on in this lesson) leads to the 5
chord which in turns, produces a strong pull
towards the ending chord (which is usually the
1st major chord of the scale).

First, let me start by showing you what chords
correspond to each tone of a major scale:

1 tone – Major
2 tone – Minor
3 tone – Minor
4 tone – Major
5 tone – Major (dominant)
6 tone – Minor
7 tone – Half Diminished

To understand the chart above, you must
understand that each tone of a major scale has a
chord which goes along with it. For example, the
following is a

C major scale:
(C — D — E — F — G — A — B — C)

Each tone above has a matching chord. Simply
add the endings of the chart above to the scale
as shown below:

>C MAJORD MINORE MINORF MAJORG MAJOR /
DOMA MINORB HALF-DIMINISHED<

To further understand progressions, lets number
each chord:

1 = C major
2 = D minor
3 = E minor
4 = F major
5 = G dominant
6 = A minor
7 = B half – diminished
8 = C major

Now, to create a “2-5-1″ chord progression (or
any numbered chord progression), simply take the
2, 5, and 1 chord out of the entire series of
chords above. That is, we would not use the 3,4,
6, or 7 chord.

The 2 chord is D minor; the 5 chord is G
dominant; and the 1 chord is C major.

This right here is the most basic “2-5-1″ chord
progression you’ll ever see:

Dmin — Gdom — Cmaj
min = minor
dom = dominant
maj = major

REFERENCE 1A:
D minor chord = (D) + (F) + (A)
G dominant chord = (G) + (B) + (D) + (F)
C major chord = (C) + (E) + (G)
Example: To play a Dminor chord simply play all
three of the notes shown above at the same time
(D+F+A)

Moving on…

Now that we have covered some theory (I’m glad
that’s out of the way), let me just show you a
few chords that I love to play. I will try not to be
as theoretic … I will simply give you the chord
changes and you’ll have to apply them to your
understanding of chords and alterations. All of
these progression will be shown in the key of C
major…

1) “Churchy 2-5-1 Chord Progression”

Style #1
D7 (b9) — G13 —- Cmaj
(pronounced “D seven, flat nine —– G thirteenth — C major”) D7 (b9) =
Bass * Play “D” ——— F# + A + C + D#
G13 = Bass * Play “G” ———- F + A + C + E
Cmaj = Bass * Play “C” ———– E + G + C (1st
inversion)

Example: For D7 (b9), we would play F# + A + C
+ D# with “D” on the bass (left hand).
Inversion just refers to the way the chord is
played. Since “C” is the highest note, it is said to
be played in its “first inversion”
Note: I love playing this chord progression in
gospel music. You try playing it and let me know
what you come up with!

2) “Churchy 2-5-1 Chord Progression” Style #2
For this progression, every chord will be the same
except for the D7 (b9). We will simply play a
regular D9 chord.
D9 = F# + A + C + “E” (not D#)

Notice: The only difference in a D9 and a D7 (b9)
is the difference in the “ninth” tone. Since we are
not flatting the 9th tone, we use “E” instead of
“D#.”

D9 = Bass * Play “D” ——— F# + A + C + E
G13 = Bass * Play “G” ———- F + A + C + E
Cmaj = Bass * Play “C” ———– E + G + C

3). “Contemporary 2-5-1 Chord Progression”
Style #1
For this progression, we are going to use:

D9 add 6 —> G13 —> Cmaj
D9 add 6 = Bass * Play “D” ——— F# + B + C + E
G13 = Bass * Play “G” ———- F + A + C + E
Cmaj = Bass * Play “C” ———– E + G + C

4.) “Contemporary 2-5-1 Chord Progression”
Style #2
This progression will follow the same exact
pattern as #3 with the following chord alteration:

D9 b5 —> G13 —-> Cmaj
*** You are going to have to extend your fingers
for this one!

D9 b5 = Bass * Play “D” ——— F# + B + C + E +
A#
G13 = Bass * Play “G” ———- F + A + C + E
Cmaj = Bass * Play “C” ———– E + G + C
Well, that’s it for this lesson. See ya next time!

Here's me playing around a common hymn "I Surrender All"

http://www.hulkshare.com/mobile/index.php#goddysweb/i-surrender-g-hillary

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Re: A Thread For Keyboardists by Dramadiddy(m): 12:13am On Jul 22, 2014
gameboi: it's a new skill I developed cos of that guy that copies all my basslines. And by the way when I play macossa I sometimes leave the transpose at -12 for anykey just to make the notes thick and not easily heard but the feel would be good and killing. Trust me!
Eeeeevil mehn...Eeeevil...Chai take it easy ooo
Re: A Thread For Keyboardists by gameboi: 12:16am On Jul 22, 2014
Dramadiddy: Eeeeevil mehn...Eeeevil...Chai take it easy ooo
It's not evil oh. If I don't play well I might end up sitting with the congregation which I hate. So, I always try to improve

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Re: A Thread For Keyboardists by Dramadiddy(m): 12:17am On Jul 22, 2014
goddysweb: If you listen to music, you’ve definitely heard a
“2-5-1″ progression. They are found in just about
any type of music — regardless of style, genre, or
rhythmical pattern. It is commonly the series of
chords that end a song or phrase. However, it can
be used in several situations (I can only go over a
few in this lesson but encourage you to check out
my course for further instruction).

In this chord progression, the 2 chord (you’ll learn
what this is later on in this lesson) leads to the 5
chord which in turns, produces a strong pull
towards the ending chord (which is usually the
1st major chord of the scale).

First, let me start by showing you what chords
correspond to each tone of a major scale:

1 tone – Major
2 tone – Minor
3 tone – Minor
4 tone – Major
5 tone – Major (dominant)
6 tone – Minor
7 tone – Half Diminished

To understand the chart above, you must
understand that each tone of a major scale has a
chord which goes along with it. For example, the
following is a

C major scale:
(C — D — E — F — G — A — B — C)

Each tone above has a matching chord. Simply
add the endings of the chart above to the scale
as shown below:

>C MAJORD MINORE MINORF MAJORG MAJOR /
DOMA MINORB HALF-DIMINISHED<

To further understand progressions, lets number
each chord:

1 = C major
2 = D minor
3 = E minor
4 = F major
5 = G dominant
6 = A minor
7 = B half – diminished
8 = C major

Now, to create a “2-5-1″ chord progression (or
any numbered chord progression), simply take the
2, 5, and 1 chord out of the entire series of
chords above. That is, we would not use the 3,4,
6, or 7 chord.

The 2 chord is D minor; the 5 chord is G
dominant; and the 1 chord is C major.

This right here is the most basic “2-5-1″ chord
progression you’ll ever see:

Dmin — Gdom — Cmaj
min = minor
dom = dominant
maj = major

REFERENCE 1A:
D minor chord = (D) + (F) + (A)
G dominant chord = (G) + (B) + (D) + (F)
C major chord = (C) + (E) + (G)
Example: To play a Dminor chord simply play all
three of the notes shown above at the same time
(D+F+A)

Moving on…

Now that we have covered some theory (I’m glad
that’s out of the way), let me just show you a
few chords that I love to play. I will try not to be
as theoretic … I will simply give you the chord
changes and you’ll have to apply them to your
understanding of chords and alterations. All of
these progression will be shown in the key of C
major…

1) “Churchy 2-5-1 Chord Progression”

Style #1
D7 (b9) — G13 —- Cmaj
(pronounced “D seven, flat nine —– G thirteenth — C major”) D7 (b9) =
Bass * Play “D” ——— F# + A + C + D#
G13 = Bass * Play “G” ———- F + A + C + E
Cmaj = Bass * Play “C” ———– E + G + C (1st
inversion)

Example: For D7 (b9), we would play F# + A + C
+ D# with “D” on the bass (left hand).
Inversion just refers to the way the chord is
played. Since “C” is the highest note, it is said to
be played in its “first inversion”
Note: I love playing this chord progression in
gospel music. You try playing it and let me know
what you come up with!

2) “Churchy 2-5-1 Chord Progression” Style #2
For this progression, every chord will be the same
except for the D7 (b9). We will simply play a
regular D9 chord.
D9 = F# + A + C + “E” (not D#)

Notice: The only difference in a D9 and a D7 (b9)
is the difference in the “ninth” tone. Since we are
not flatting the 9th tone, we use “E” instead of
“D#.”

D9 = Bass * Play “D” ——— F# + A + C + E
G13 = Bass * Play “G” ———- F + A + C + E
Cmaj = Bass * Play “C” ———– E + G + C

3). “Contemporary 2-5-1 Chord Progression”
Style #1
For this progression, we are going to use:

D9 add 6 —> G13 —> Cmaj
D9 add 6 = Bass * Play “D” ——— F# + B + C + E
G13 = Bass * Play “G” ———- F + A + C + E
Cmaj = Bass * Play “C” ———– E + G + C

4.) “Contemporary 2-5-1 Chord Progression”
Style #2
This progression will follow the same exact
pattern as #3 with the following chord alteration:

D9 b5 —> G13 —-> Cmaj
*** You are going to have to extend your fingers
for this one!

D9 b5 = Bass * Play “D” ——— F# + B + C + E +
A#
G13 = Bass * Play “G” ———- F + A + C + E
Cmaj = Bass * Play “C” ———– E + G + C
Well, that’s it for this lesson. See ya next time!

Here's me playing around a common hymn "I Surrender All"

http://www.hulkshare.com/mobile/index.php#goddysweb/i-surrender-g-hillary
Nice one bro...thanks for taking time out to explain...I appreciate

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Re: A Thread For Keyboardists by Dramadiddy(m): 12:21am On Jul 22, 2014
peacemaranatha: Pls help beginners here. I only know one cord & use it to play hymns d cord is on middle c. Pls someone shld shed light on 7th 13th e.t.C cords do cords have orders. Then i play hymns but i dont knw hw to play to praises. Pls can anyone guide me on this i will quickly grab. Praises are fast songs & dont knw hw to play. Pls i nid help or if there is any materials that can help pls my mail is peacemaranatha54@gmail.Com
wow...a lotta work my brother...firstly...you're a beginner, you dont need 7th and 13ths now, you need to work on the basics :
Major
minor
augmented
diminished
dominant
minor7
half-diminished7
maj7
dominant7#5
dominant7b5
min7#5
And a few, these are the basics, try researching on them and practicing to play them and come back...Goodluck
Re: A Thread For Keyboardists by Dramadiddy(m): 12:22am On Jul 22, 2014
gameboi: It's not evil oh. If I don't play well I might end up sitting with the congregation which I hate. So, I always try to improve
Seems there's an overflow of musicians in ur church
Re: A Thread For Keyboardists by gameboi: 12:25am On Jul 22, 2014
Dramadiddy: Seems there's an overflow of musicians in ur church
nope we're just 3. But they started playing the piano before me
Re: A Thread For Keyboardists by Dramadiddy(m): 12:29am On Jul 22, 2014
gameboi: nope we're just 3. But they started playing the piano before me
okayy nice...more strength
Re: A Thread For Keyboardists by goddysweb: 12:33am On Jul 22, 2014
Dramadiddy: Nice one bro...thanks for taking time out to explain...I appreciate


you're welcome.

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Re: A Thread For Keyboardists by Dramadiddy(m): 12:46am On Jul 22, 2014
Good to know nairaland has jazz masters, classical guys and gospel guys...such a full house!!!
Re: A Thread For Keyboardists by 2rhymestharap(m): 2:35am On Jul 22, 2014
kolawaxxy:

what's yanni scale? Did you study music?
its a book.. Its more like sightreading... Yeah.. I studied music
Re: A Thread For Keyboardists by 2rhymestharap(m): 2:36am On Jul 22, 2014
Tymax:
You sightread?
sure I do,, but I can't play piano
Re: A Thread For Keyboardists by 2rhymestharap(m): 2:42am On Jul 22, 2014
Dramadiddy: you need to learn the original song first..if u can get the original song, learn it and all will be fine
not about learning songs.. Is about knowing progression
Re: A Thread For Keyboardists by Dramadiddy(m): 7:20am On Jul 22, 2014
2rhymestharap: not about learning songs.. Is about knowing progression
When you learning song, you learn how to play it in the key it was played, with the original progression....there's nothing as good as playing a song the original way even in church because the person singing that song aso listened to the original, there are people in the congregation, who also listened to the original, so I still say "learn the song".... there's much to learn from a song than just "progression"
Re: A Thread For Keyboardists by Tymax(m): 7:30am On Jul 22, 2014
2rhymestharap: sure I do,, but I can't play piano
Hmmm okay.
Re: A Thread For Keyboardists by gameboi: 7:59am On Jul 22, 2014
To my ogas. What chords on the keyboard create tension and what chord create relief as well?
Re: A Thread For Keyboardists by gameboi: 8:03am On Jul 22, 2014
Dramadiddy: wow...a lotta work my brother...firstly...you're a beginner, you dont need 7th and 13ths now, you need to work on the basics :
Major
minor
augmented
diminished
dominant
minor7
half-diminished7
maj7
dominant7#5
dominant7b5
min7#5
And a few, these are the basics, try researching on them and practicing to play them and come back...Goodluck
for a starter, he only needs to know the major(1 3 5), minor(1 3b 5) and diminished(1 3b 5b) chords.
Re: A Thread For Keyboardists by Dramadiddy(m): 8:05am On Jul 22, 2014
gameboi: To my ogas. What chords on the keyboard create tension and what chord create relief as well?
9, 11, 13 and their alterations
Re: A Thread For Keyboardists by Dramadiddy(m): 8:06am On Jul 22, 2014
gameboi: for a starter, he only needs to know the major(1 3 5), minor(1 3b 5) and diminished(1 3b 5b) chords.
he still needs the rest, those chords are what form the bigger ones
Re: A Thread For Keyboardists by gameboi: 8:12am On Jul 22, 2014
Dramadiddy: 9, 11, 13 and their alterations
Not really. What I meant is what chords does one play to create tension before moving to the fourth, fifth and sixth of any scale.
Re: A Thread For Keyboardists by abolem369(m): 8:15am On Jul 22, 2014
Dramadiddy: When you learning song, you learn how to play it in the key it was played, with the original progression....there's nothing as good as playing a song the original way even in church because the person singing that song aso listened to the original, there are people in the congregation, who also listened to the original, so I still say "learn the song".... there's much to learn from a song than just "progression"
Both of you are right, both work hands in hands! In a worship session u don't need to learn all the songs to play,since u can play by ear(u can fit it chords according to the tune and rythym of the song) and good for u if u already learnt the song that is sang by the worship leader and most cases modern churches have a pre-arranged worship session, learning the song is a pre-requisite! The most impt Is during choir rendition, learning the song, and infact thorough scoring Is colossal! I think I've shed more light to that! I hope I didn't create more confusion though
Re: A Thread For Keyboardists by Dramadiddy(m): 9:08am On Jul 22, 2014
abolem369:
Both of you are right, both work hands in hands! In a worship session u don't need to learn all the songs to play,since u can play by ear(u can fit it chords according to the tune and rythym of the song) and good for u if u already learnt the song that is sang by the worship leader and most cases modern churches have a pre-arranged worship session, learning the song is a pre-requisite! The most impt Is during choir rendition, learning the song, and infact thorough scoring Is colossal! I think I've shed more light to that! I hope I didn't create more confusion though
Perfect killer...this is it...thanks bro
Re: A Thread For Keyboardists by Dramadiddy(m): 9:11am On Jul 22, 2014
gameboi: Not really. What I meant is what chords does one play to create tension before moving to the fourth, fifth and sixth of any scale.
Music is a free world, of experiences....9,11,13 and d alterations can be used anywhere, dont limit urself to rules..except you're a classical pianist...you can play any chord tension before resoluting to a degree, what matters is taste...if it sounds nice to u, den no problemo...

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Re: A Thread For Keyboardists by gameboi: 9:21am On Jul 22, 2014
Dramadiddy: Music is a free world, of experiences....9,11,13 and d alterations can be used anywhere, dont limit urself to rules..except you're a classical pianist...you can play any chord tension before resoluting to a degree, what matters is taste...if it sounds nice to u, den no problemo...
you're right though. 9,11, 13 only had a thicker quality to chords. But there are special chords that send you back and forth to heaven, when you play these chords, they force tears out of the listeners eye.
Re: A Thread For Keyboardists by Dramadiddy(m): 9:44am On Jul 22, 2014
gameboi: you're right though. 9,11, 13 only had a thicker quality to chords. But there are special chords that send you back and forth to heaven, when you play these chords, they force tears out of the listeners eye.
Lol I'll post some later though
Re: A Thread For Keyboardists by gameboi: 9:51am On Jul 22, 2014
Dramadiddy: Lol I'll post some later though
oKay. I'll be expecting them
Re: A Thread For Keyboardists by peacemaranatha(m): 9:52am On Jul 22, 2014
Dramadiddy: wow...a lotta work my brother...firstly...you're a beginner, you dont need 7th and 13ths now, you need to work on the basics :
Major
minor
augmented
diminished
dominant
minor7
half-diminished7
maj7
dominant7#5
dominant7b5
min7#5
And a few, these are the basics, try researching on them and practicing to play them and come back...Goodluck
yeh! You mean i will still go through all this?OMG.pls any tutor to help?
Re: A Thread For Keyboardists by heatmeup(f): 10:03am On Jul 22, 2014
Dramadiddy: Hello....as a beginner, what you need to know is that the key to getting better is practice, keep practicing a particular bass line until u get it...you will surely get it...although u don't need to play bass lines, esp when a bass player is around...but it still helps to learn bass lines if no bass player is around... Cheers!
thanks
Re: A Thread For Keyboardists by Dramadiddy(m): 1:16pm On Jul 22, 2014
peacemaranatha: yeh! You mean i will still go through all this?OMG.pls any tutor to help?
Lol...there's stll mre work...the result pays so much..what I will suggest for u concerning a tutor is that u find someone good on the piano, that you can meet once every week...not to teach you but to guide you...Do not allow someone fully teach u anything, there's a joy U get when learning something in music on your own..Anytime u discover something, although its not new, you would feel like no one knows it, but the best thing is to get a mentor/teacher that can keep you on track
Re: A Thread For Keyboardists by gameboi: 1:27pm On Jul 22, 2014
Dramadiddy: Lol...there's stll mre work...the result pays so much..what I will suggest for u concerning a tutor is that u find someone good on the piano, that you can meet once every week...not to teach you but to guide you...Do not allow someone fully teach u anything, there's a joy U get when learning something in music on your own..Anytime u discover something, although its not new, you would feel like no one knows it, but the best thing is to get a mentor/teacher that can keep you on track
Supported! The keyboard is fun to learn. All you need to do is practise, practise and keep practising and you'll be surprised at how far you've gone. I started learning on my own about 9yrs ago and I remember when I could only play on key C and key F. And now? With personal determination I can now play all 12keys
Re: A Thread For Keyboardists by peacemaranatha(m): 2:17pm On Jul 22, 2014
Dramadiddy: Lol...there's stll mre work...the result pays so much..what I will suggest for u concerning a tutor is that u find someone good on the piano, that you can meet once every week...not to teach you but to guide you...Do not allow someone fully teach u anything, there's a joy U get when learning something in music on your own..Anytime u discover something, although its not new, you would feel like no one knows it, but the best thing is to get a mentor/teacher that can keep you on track
thanks your advice is encouraging thanks

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