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Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by Abdulsalam20(m): 11:02am On Aug 31, 2014 |
PILLARS OF ISLAM IN THE BIBLE 5. THE PILGRIMAGE(TO KA'BAH) Q3:96-97-Verily,the first House(of worship) appointed for mankind was that at Bakkah(Makkah),full of blessing,and a guidance for Al-Alamin(the mankind and jinns).In it are manifest signs(for example),the Maqam(place) of Ibrahim (Abraham(AS));whoever enters it,he attains security.And Hank(Pilgrimage to Makkah) to the House(Ka'bah) is a duty that mankind owes to Allah,those who can afford the expenses(for one's conveyance,provision and residence);and whoever disbelieves (denies Hajj(pilgrimage to Makkah),then he is a disbeliever of Allah),then Allah stands not in need of any of the Alamin(mankind and jinns). Psalms 84:5-6 "Blessed are those whose strength is in you,who have set their hearts,on pilgrimage.As they pass through the valley of BACA(Makkah),they make it a place of springs;the rain also it with pools(Zamzam water). But,based on their logics,I found an answered to it already (that the place mentioned is Jerusalem).Here are my findings : JEREMIAH 13:27 "I God have seen your adultery and evil and arrogance,WOE,unto you JERUSALEM never shall you be holy again" GALANTIANS 4:25 "Because Hangar is the Sinai mountain of Arabia that stands for the (cursed) Jerusalem of today. MATTHEW 21:42-43 "Jesus said to them(the Jews) have you never read in the scriptures(eg, Jeremiah,Galantians etc);the stone(black stone of Makkah) which the builders rejected has became the CHIEF CORNER STONE.This is the Lord's doing and it is marvelous in our eye?Therefore,I say to you,the kingdom of God will be taken from you and given to a nation bearing the fruits of it. SACRIFICES IN MECCA ISAIAH 60:1-7 "...The multitude or camels shall cover thee,the dromedaries or Midian and Ephah;all they from Sheba come ;they shall bring gold and incense; and they shall shew forth the praises of the LORD. All the flocks of Kedar(Ka'bah) shall be gathered together unto thee,the rams of Nebaioth shall minister unto thee:they shall come up with acceptance on mine altar,and I will glorify the house ot my glory..........PLEASE I NEED SOMEONE TO CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG |
Re: Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by remsonik(f): 11:32am On Aug 31, 2014 |
So you needed to twist the bible to validate your holy land. So u needed to use the bible to validate Islam. Mtcheew evn mohammed will be shaking his head at you right now. 3 Likes |
Re: Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by Abdulsalam20(m): 11:46am On Aug 31, 2014 |
remsonik: So you needed to twist the bible to validate your holy land. So u needed to use the bible to validate Islam. Mtcheew evn mohammed will be shaking his head at you right now.U CAN SEE THAT BACA WAS MENTIONED IN THE BIBLE LOOK AT THE POST ABOVE AND BACA IS THE ANCIENT NAME OF MECCA LET ME GIVE U EVIDENCE FROM THE LARGEST ENCYCLOPEDIA WEBSITE www.en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bakkah Bakkah (Arabic: بكة) is an ancient name for Mecca, the most holy city of Islam.[1] Most people believe they are synonyms, but to Muslim scholars there is a distinction: Bakkah refers to the Kaaba and the sacred site immediately surrounding it, while Mecca is the name of the city in which they are both located.[2] According to Lisan Al Arab of Ibn Manzor, the site of Kaaba and its surroundings was named Bakkah due to crowding and congestion of people in the area. The Arabic verb bakka (بكَّ), with double "k", means to crowd like in a bazaar. This is not to be confused with another unrelated Arabic verb baka (بَكَى)(single k) which is the past participle of yabki (يَبْكِي), to cry. Bakkah is mentioned in sura 3 (Al-i-Imran), ayah 96 of the Qur'an, where it is said to be the site of the first place of worship.[3][4][5].............SOURCE........WIKIPEDIA THIS IS THE LINK www.en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bakkah |
Re: Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by mazaje(m): 4:57pm On Aug 31, 2014 |
Abdulsalam20: PLEASE I NEED SOMEONE TO CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG You are not only very wrong but also very deluded. . . . 2 Likes |
Re: Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by Abdulsalam20(m): 6:11pm On Aug 31, 2014 |
mazaje:I SAID PROVE ME WRONG NOT ABUSE JUST EXPLAIN IT IF I AM LYING U DIDNT EXPLAIN U ARE JUST INSULTING ME PLS PROVE ME WRONG 1 Like |
Re: Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by mazaje(m): 6:19pm On Aug 31, 2014 |
Abdulsalam20: I SAID PROVE ME WRONG NOT ABUSE JUST EXPLAIN IT IF I AM LYING U DIDNT EXPLAIN U ARE JUST INSULTING ME PLS PROVE ME WRONG I am not insulting you, i am just calling you what you are, a deluded fellow and some one that distorts things and tell lies. . .Your lies are there for all to see. . . 2 Likes |
Re: Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by Abdulsalam20(m): 6:35pm On Aug 31, 2014 |
mazaje:WHERE DID I LIE AND TELL ME WHY IT IS A LIE |
Re: Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by mazaje(m): 8:40pm On Aug 31, 2014 |
Abdulsalam20: WHERE DID I LIE AND TELL ME WHY IT IS A LIE Everything you wrote in the Op is a lie. . . . 2 Likes |
Re: Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by Abdulsalam20(m): 9:13pm On Aug 31, 2014 |
mazaje:I KNOW U WILL SAY DAT VERSE IS REFERING TO JERUSALEM...........PLS WHERE IS BACA LOCATED |
Re: Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by mazaje(m): 9:18pm On Aug 31, 2014 |
Abdulsalam20: I KNOW U WILL SAY DAT VERSE IS REFERING TO JERUSALEM...........PLS WHERE IS BACA LOCATED Where is BACA written in the Koran?. . .Baca is NOT bakka or mecca. .Stop telling lies. . . 2 Likes |
Re: Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by Abdulsalam20(m): 9:23pm On Aug 31, 2014 |
mazaje:IT IS MENTIONED IN THE QURAN IN sura 3 (Al-i-Imran ), ayah 96 of the Qur'an , where it is said to be the site of the first place of worship.AND ALSO IN THE BIBLE AND AT LEAST I HAVE GIVEN U D EVIDENCE FROM THE LARGEST ENCYCLOPEDIA WEBSITE THAT BACA IS THE ANCIENT NAME OF MECCA 1 Like |
Re: Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by mazaje(m): 10:26pm On Aug 31, 2014 |
Abdulsalam20: IT IS MENTIONED IN THE QURAN IN sura 3 (Al-i-Imran ), ayah 96 of the Its says Bakkah NOT Baca. . .Bakkah is NOT the same as Baca. . . 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by Abdulsalam20(m): 6:42am On Sep 01, 2014 |
mazaje:U DIDNT READ ALL WHAT IS IN THAT LINK IN WIKIPEDIA IT GOES THUS; (also transliterated Baca , Baka , 'Bakke', Bakah , Bakka , Becca , Bekka, etc.) is the ancient name for the site of Mecca. YOU WILL SEE THIS IN THE THIRD PARAGRAPH 1 Like |
Re: Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by mustang44: 7:30pm On Sep 02, 2014 |
The pilgrimage mentioned in Psalm 84:5,6, is clearly to Jerusalem, as evidenced by the rest of the psalm. Why on earth would Jews, living in Israel and on their way to Jerusalem, take a huge detour through Mecca? The only link between the Bacca mentioned in the bible and the Bakkah of the Quran is a superficial similarity in name, nothing more. 2 Likes |
Re: Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by eyeopener: 9:38pm On Sep 02, 2014 |
@ Op Who are you trying to convince? No Christians will take your twistings and additions to the bible seriously. Islam cannot stand without reference to the bible. No Christian talks about Christianity referring to the quran. 2 Likes |
Re: Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by Abdulsalam20(m): 10:25pm On Sep 02, 2014 |
eyeopener: @ OpBECAUSE IF WE PREACH ISLAM TO U IN THE QURAN U ALWAYS SAY IT IS NOT A WORD OF GOD U CLAIM MUHAMMAD IS A FALSE PROPHET SO WE HAVE TO TELL U THE TRUTH WE HAVE TO GIVE U EVIDENCE IN UR BIBLE ABOUT THE COMING OF MUHAMMAD AND EVEN THOUGH U TAMPER THE BIBLE THE TRUTH IS STILL IN IT AND THIS IS VERSE OF HAJJ IN THE QURAN [2:158] The knolls of Safa and Marwah are among the rites decreed by GOD. Anyone who observes Hajj or `Umrah commits no error by traversing the distance between them. If one volunteers more righteous works, then GOD is Appreciative, Omniscient. (sub-title) Do Not Beat Around the Bush [2:189] They ask you about the phases of the moon! Say, "They provide a timing device for the people, and determine the time of Hajj." It is not righteous to beat around the bush;* righteousness is attained by upholding the commandments and by being straightforward. You shall observe GOD, that you may succeed. Footnote: *2:189 The literal Quranic idiom says: "Do not enter the homes through the back doors." The question about the phases of the moon is an example of beating around the bush; there were bad ulterior motives behind this question. (sub-title) Hajj and `Umrah Pilgrimage* [2:196] You shall observe the complete rites of Hajj and`Umrah for GOD. If you are prevented, you shall send an offering, and do not resume cutting your hair until your offering has reached its destination. If you are ill, or suffering a head injury (and you must cut your hair), you shall expiate by fasting, or giving to charity, or some other form of worship. During the normal Hajj, if you break the state of Ihraam (sanctity) between `Umrah and Hajj, you shall expiate by offering an animal sacrifice. If you cannot afford it, you shall fast three days during Hajj and seven when you return home - this completes ten - provided you do not live at the Sacred Masjid. You shall observe GOD, and know that GOD is strict in enforcing retribution. Footnote: *2:196 See the details of Hajj and `Umrah in Appendix 15. (sub-title) The Four Months of Hajj (Zul-Hijjah, Muharram, Safar, & Rabi I) [2:197] Hajj shall be observed in the specified months.* Whoever sets out to observe Hajj shall refrain from sexual intercourse, misconduct, and arguments throughout Hajj. Whatever good you do, GOD is fully aware thereof. As you prepare your provisions for the journey, the best provision is righteousness. You shall observe Me, O you who possess intelligence. Footnote: *2:197 Hajj can be observed any time during the Sacred Months: Zul- Hijjah, Muharram, Safar, and Rabi I. Local governments restrict Hajj to a few days for their own convenience. See 9:37 [2:198-201] You commit no error by seeking provisions from your Lord (through commerce). When you file from `Arafaat, you shall commemorate GOD at the Sacred Location (of Muzdalifah). You shall commemorate Him for guiding you; before this, you had gone astray. You shall file together, with the rest of the people who file, and ask GOD for forgiveness. GOD is Forgiver, Most Merciful. Once you complete your rites, you shall continue to commemorate GOD as you commemorate your own parents, or even better. Some people would say, "Our Lord, give us of this world," while having no share in the Hereafter. Others would say, "Our Lord, grant us righteousness in this world, and righteousness in the Hereafter, and spare us the retribution of Hell." (sub-title) Mena: Last Rites of Hajj [2:203] You shall commemorate GOD for a number of days (in Mena); whoever hastens to do this in two days commits no sin, and whoever stays longer commits no sin, so long as righteousness is maintained. You shall observe GOD, and know that before Him you will be gathered. [3:96-97] The most important shrine established for the people is the one in Becca;* a blessed beacon for all the people. In it are clear signs: the station of Abraham. Anyone who enters it shall be granted safe passage. The people owe it to GOD that they shall observe Hajj to this shrine, when they can afford it. As for those who disbelieve, GOD does not need anyone. [5:1-2] O you who believe, you shall fulfill your covenants. Permitted for you to eat are the livestock, except those specifically prohibited herein. You shall not permit hunting throughout Hajj pilgrimage. GOD decrees whatever He wills. O you who believe, do not violate the rites instituted by GOD, nor the Sacred Months, nor the animals to be offered, nor the garlands marking them, nor the people who head for the Sacred Shrine (Ka`bah) seeking blessings from their Lord and approval. Once you complete the pilgrimage, you may hunt.* Do not be provoked into aggression by your hatred of people who once prevented you from going to the Sacred Masjid. You shall cooperate in matters of righteousness and piety; do not cooperate in matters that are sinful and evil. You shall observe GOD. GOD is strict in enforcing retribution. Footnote: *5:2 Hunting and the cutting of plants are forbidden during pilgrimage for the conservation of natural resources. With thousands of pilgrims converging on Mecca, if hunting were permitted, the land would quickly be stripped of its natural resources. Animal offerings are made part of the pilgrimage to provide for the converging pilgrims, as well as the local population, and to replenish any depleted supplies. See 2:196. (sub-title) Game Conservation [5:94-95] O you who believe, GOD will test you with some game within reach of your hands and your arrows (during pilgrimage). GOD thus distinguishes those among you who observe Him in their privacy. Those who transgress after this have incurred a painful retribution. O you who believe, do not kill any game during pilgrimage. Anyone who kills any game on purpose, his fine shall be a number of livestock animals that is equivalent to the game animals he killed. The judgment shall be set by two equitable people among you. They shall make sure that the offerings reach the Ka`bah. Otherwise, he may expiate by feeding poor people, or by an equivalent fast to atone for his offense. GOD has pardoned past offenses. But if anyone returns to such an offense, GOD will avenge it. GOD is Almighty, Avenger.........JUST PROVE ME WRONG FOR WHAT I SAID ONE OF U JUST RUN AWAT WHEN I GIVE HIM EVIDENCE SO JUST SAY WHERE I AM WRONG 1 Like |
Re: Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by eyeopener: 1:59pm On Sep 03, 2014 |
Have you not read that Muhammad is not from the descent of God's prophets? Why do you still believe him and his quran? 2 Likes |
Re: Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by Abdulsalam20(m): 4:08pm On Sep 03, 2014 |
eyeopener: Have you not read that Muhammad is not from the descent of God's prophets? Why do you still believe him and his quran?PROPHET MUHAMMAD (pbuh) IN THE BIBLE by Dr. Zakir Naik Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) in the Old Testament: The Qur’an mentions in Surah Al-Araf chapter 7 verse 157: "Those who follow the Messenger, the unlettered Prophet, whom they find mentioned in their own (scriptures) in the law and the Gospel". 1. MUHAMMAD (PBUH) PROPHESISED IN THE BOOK OF DEUTERONOMY: Almighty God speaks to Moses in Book of Deuteronomy chapter 18 verse 18: "I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and I will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him." The Christians say that this prophecy refers to Jesus (pbuh) because Jesus (pbuh) was like Moses (pbuh). Moses (pbuh) was a Jew, as well as Jesus (pbuh) was a Jew. Moses (pbuh) was a Prophet and Jesus (pbuh) was also a Prophet. If these two are the only criteria for this prophecy to be fulfilled, then all the Prophets of the Bible who came after Moses (pbuh) such as Solomon, Isaiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, Hosea, Joel, Malachi, John the Baptist, etc. (pbut) will fulfill this prophecy since all were Jews as well as prophets. However, it is Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) who is like Moses (pbuh): i) Both had a father and a mother, while Jesus (pbuh) was born miraculously without any male intervention. [Mathew 1:18 and Luke 1:35 and also Al-Qur'an 3:42-47] ii) Both were married and had children. Jesus (pbuh) according to the Bible did not marry nor had children. iii) Both died natural deaths. Jesus (pbuh) has been raised up alive. (4:157-158) Muhammad (pbuh) is from among the brethren of Moses (pbuh). Arabs are brethren of Jews. Abraham (pbuh) had two sons: Ishmail and Isaac (pbut). The Arabs are the descendants of Ishmail (pbuh) and the Jews are the descendants of Isaac (pbuh). Words in the mouth: Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was unlettered and whatever revelations he received from Almighty God he repeated them verbatim. "I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him." [Deuteronomy 18:18] iv) Both besides being Prophets were also kings i.e. they could inflict capital punishment. Jesus (pbuh) said, "My kingdom is not of this world." (John 18:36). v) Both were accepted as Prophets by their people in their lifetime but Jesus (pbuh) was rejected by his people. John chapter 1 verse 11 states, "He came unto his own, but his own received him not." iv) Both brought new laws and new regulations for their people. Jesus (pbuh) according to the Bible did not bring any new laws. (Mathew 5:17-18) . 2. It is Mentioned in the book of Deuteronomy chapter 18:19 "And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not harken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him." 3. Muhammad (pbuh) is prophesised in the book of Isaiah: It is mentioned in the book of Isaiah chapter 29 verse 12: "And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned." When Archangel Gabrail commanded Muhammad (pbuh) by saying Iqra - "Read", he replied, "I am not learned" . 4. prophet Muhammad (pbuh) mentioned by name in the old testament: Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is mentioned by name in the Song of Solomon chapter 5 verse 16: " Hikko Mamittakim we kullo Muhammadim Zehdoodeh wa Zehraee Bayna Jerusalem ." "His mouth is most sweet: yea, he is altogether lovely. This is my beloved, and this is my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem." In the Hebrew language im is added for respect. Similarely im is added after the name of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) to make it Muhammadim. In English translation they have even translated the name of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) as "altogether lovely", but in the Old Testament in Hebrew, the name of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is yet present. Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) in the New Testament: Al-Qur'an Chapter 61 Verse 6: "And remember, Jesus, the son of Mary, said, 'O Children of Israel! I am the messenger of Allah (sent) to you, confirming the Law (which came) before me and giving glad tidings of a messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmed.' But when he came to them with clear signs, they said, 'This is evident sorcery!' " All the prophecies mentioned in the Old Testament regarding Muhammad (pbuh) besides applying to the Jews also hold good for the Christians. 1. John chapter 14 verse 16: "And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you forever." 2. Gospel of John chapter 15 verse 26: "But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me." 3. Gospel of John chapter 16 verse 7: "Nevertheless I tell you the truth; it is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you". "Ahmed" or "Muhammad" meaning "the one who praises" or "the praised one" is almost the translation of the Greek word Periclytos. In the Gospel of John 14:16, 15:26, and 16:7. The word 'Comforter' is used in the English translation for the Greek word Paracletos which means advocate or a kind friend rather than a comforter. Paracletos is the warped reading for Periclytos. Jesus (pbuh) actually prophesised Ahmed by name. Even the Greek word Paraclete refers to the Prophet (pbuh) who is a mercy for all creatures. Some Christians say that the Comforter mentioned in these prophecies refers to the Holy Sprit. They fail to realise that the prophecy clearly says that only if Jesus (pbuh) departs will the Comforter come. The Bible states that the Holy Spirit was already present on earth before and during the time of Jesus (pbuh), in the womb of Elizabeth, and again when Jesus (pbuh) was being baptised, etc. Hence this prophecy refers to none other than Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). 4. Gospel of John chapter 16 verse 12-14: "I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth is come, he will guide you unto all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me". The Sprit of Truth, spoken about in this prophecy referes to none other than Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) NOTE : All quotations of the Bible are taken from the King James Version. Reference: http://www.irf.net/irf/comparativereligion/ index.htm 1 Like |
Re: Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by Abdulsalam20(m): 4:10pm On Sep 03, 2014 |
eyeopener: Have you not read that Muhammad is not from the descent of God's prophets? Why do you still believe him and his quran?THIS IS AN EVIDENCE FROM AN ENCYCLOPEDIA WEBSITE THAT ARABIANS ARE DESCENDANT OF ISMAHEEL FIRST SON OF ABRAHAM(HAZRAT IBRAHIM www.en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishmael |
Re: Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by eyeopener: 4:25pm On Sep 03, 2014 |
Muhammad is not and cannot be in the bible. The God of the bible is not muslims Allah. Therefore allah can not have his own prophet in the bible. Jesus said he was the One spoken of by all the prophets in the Bible (Luke 24:27). All the bible references you posted are talking about Jesus,not Muhammad. Stop trying to deceive. 1 Like |
Re: Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by Abdulsalam20(m): 4:50pm On Sep 03, 2014 |
mustang44: The pilgrimage mentioned in Psalm 84:5,6, is clearly to Jerusalem, asSO WIKIPEDIA WILL LIE SMH ...........WIKIPEDIA WILL HAVE SPECIFY IF IT IS JERUSALEM JERUSALEM IS NO MORE AN HOLY LAND JEREMIAH 13:27 "I God have seen your adultery and evil and arrogance,WOE,unto you JERUSALEM never shall you be holy again" GALANTIANS 4:25 "Because Hangar is the Sinai mountain of Arabia that stands for the (cursed) Jerusalem of today. |
Re: Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by Abdulsalam20(m): 4:54pm On Sep 03, 2014 |
eyeopener: Muhammad is not and cannot be in the bible. The God of the bible is not muslims Allah. Therefore allah can not have his own prophet in the bible.U BETTER READ D VERSE U QUOTED WELL BEFORE CONCLUDING EVEN IT IS IN THE NEW TESTAMENT THIS IS AFTER THE DEMISE IF JESUS OOO 1. John chapter 14 verse 16: "And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you forever." 2. Gospel of John chapter 15 verse 26: "But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me." 3. Gospel of John chapter 16 verse 7: "Nevertheless I tell you the truth; it is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you". "Ahmed" or "Muhammad" meaning "the one who praises" or "the praised one" is almost the translation of the Greek word Periclytos. In the Gospel of John 14:16, 15:26, and 16:7. The word 'Comforter' is used in the English translation for the Greek word Paracletos which means advocate or a kind friend rather than a comforter. Paracletos is the warped reading for Periclytos. Jesus (pbuh) actually prophesised Ahmed by name. Even the Greek word Paraclete refers to the Prophet (pbuh) who is a mercy for all creatures. Some Christians say that the Comforter mentioned in these prophecies refers to the Holy Sprit. They fail to realise that the prophecy clearly says that only if Jesus (pbuh) departs will the Comforter come. The Bible states that the Holy Spirit was already present on earth before and during the time of Jesus (pbuh), in the womb of Elizabeth, and again when Jesus (pbuh) was being baptised, etc. Hence this prophecy refers to none other than Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). 4. Gospel of John chapter 16 verse 12-14: "I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth is come, he will guide you unto all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me". The Sprit of Truth, spoken about in this prophecy referes to none other than Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) |
Re: Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by eyeopener: 5:06pm On Sep 03, 2014 |
Abdulsalam20: THIS IS AN EVIDENCE FROM AN ENCYCLOPEDIA WEBSITE THAT ARABIANS ARE DESCENDANT OF ISMAHEEL FIRST SON OF ABRAHAM(HAZRAT IBRAHIM www.en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishmael Do you believe 'wikipedia' more than quran that says what muslims worship (allah) is not the God of the Jews and Christians, which is the true God? See surah 9:29 that says Christians are disbelievers in Allah. Then allah said what the disbelievers (Jews and Christians) worship is not what muslims worship (surah 109-1-6). Then who is this allah? 1 Like |
Re: Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by malvisguy212: 5:54pm On Sep 03, 2014 |
Abdulsalam20: THIS IS AN EVIDENCE FROM AN ENCYCLOPEDIA WEBSITE THAT ARABIANS ARE DESCENDANT OF ISMAHEEL FIRST SON OF ABRAHAM(HAZRAT IBRAHIM www.en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishmaelso wikipedia is now your quran? You guys are Soooo confused. 1 Like |
Re: Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by Abdulsalam20(m): 6:01pm On Sep 03, 2014 |
eyeopener:open your eye this is what is in 9:29; 1:29 Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. (who are the people of scripture the people who the torah and the injill has been sent to them and the prophesy of muhammad was ascribed to them ut they rejet it) and 109:6 1:1 Say : O ye that reject Faith!1:2 I worship not that which ye worship,1:3 Nor will ye worship that which I worship.1:4 And I will not worship that which ye have been wont to worship,1:5 Nor will ye worship that which I worship.1:6 To you be your Way, and to me mine. THIS VERSES WAS REVEALED WHEN THE IDOLATORS OF MEKAH CAME TO MUHAMMAD THAT HE SHOULD JOIN THEM SO THAT THEY WILL JOIN HIM ALSO IN ISLAM........THAT IS WHEN THIS VERSE WAS REVEALED INDEED ISLAM HAS BEEN PERFECTED BY GOD EVERY VERSE IN THE QURAN WAS REVEALED WITH A REASON THE WORD ALLAH IS THE ARABIC NAME OF GOD TO CONFIRM THIS GO AND MAE RESEARCH THE CHRISTIANS IN ARAB COUNTRIES IN THEIR BIBLE SINCE IT IS WRITTEN IN ARABIC ALLAH IS WRITTEN THERE TO MEAN GOD U SAID I LIKE TOPOST FROM WIKIPEDIA YES!.....I GAVE UR BROTHER REFERENCE IN THE QURAN AND BIBLE HE DENIED IT SO I DECIDE TO GIVE HIM EVIDENCE FROM WIKIPEDIA ONE OF THE LARGEST ENCYCLOPEDIA WEBSITE 1 Like |
Re: Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by Abdulsalam20(m): 6:05pm On Sep 03, 2014 |
malvisguy212: so wikipedia is now your quran? You guys are Soooo confused.WHEN I SAID BACA IS ANCIENT NAME OF MECCA I QUOTED BOTH THE QURAN AND BIBLE U GUYS NEVER BELIEVE I SAID THE ARABIAN ARE DESCENDANT OF ABRAHAM U NEVER BELIEVE SO THE ONLY WAY I CAN PROVE MYSELF RIGHT AND PROVE U GUYS WRONG IS TO QUOTE FROM ENCYCLOPEDIA WEBSITE WHICH THEIR INFORMATION IS BASED ON RESEARCH SO U CAN SEE NOW THAT U ARE THE ONE THAT IS CONFUSED AND NOT ME BECAUSE ISLAM HAVE BEEN PERFECTED BY GOD NOTHING TO BE CONFUSE ABOUT |
Re: Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by Abdulsalam20(m): 6:09pm On Sep 03, 2014 |
JUST ACCEPT THE TRUTH |
Re: Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by malvisguy212: 6:20pm On Sep 03, 2014 |
Abdulsalam20: JUST ACCEPT THE TRUTHThe commencement of the Divine Inspiration to Allah's Apostle was in the form of good righteous (true) dreams in his sleep. He never had a dream but that it came true like bright day light. He used to go in seclusion (the cave of) Hira where he used to worship(Allah Alone) continuously for many (days) nights. He used to take with him the journey food for that (stay) and then come back to (his wife) Khadija to take his food like-wise again for another period to stay, till suddenly the Truth descended upon him while he was in the cave of Hira. The angel came to him in it and asked him to read. The Prophet replied, "I do not know how to read." (The Prophet added), "The angel caught me (FORCEFULLY) AND PRESSED ME SO HARD THAT I COULD NOT BEAR IT ANY MORE . He then released me and again asked me to read, and I replied, "I do not know how to read," WHEREUPON HE CAUGHT ME AGAIN AND PRESSED ME THE SECOND TIME TILL I COULD NOT BEAR IT ANYMORE. He then released me and asked me again to read, but again I replied, "I do not know how to read (or, what shall I read?)." THEREUPON GHHE CAUT ME FOR THE THIRD TIME AND PRESSED ME and then released me and said, "Read: In the Name of your Lord, Who has created (all that exists). Has created man from a clot. Read and Your Lord is Most Generous...up to..... ..that which he knew not." (96.15). (Bukahri Volume 9, Book 87, Number 111) [b][/b] I may not be able to continue with you because you are drawing me back. I am surprised you do not know some basic things in islam hence your request for evidence above. Now, let analyze the above hadith: 1. Muhammad was in the cave of Hira to worship Allah alone before the Truth descended upon him. It means he had been worshiping Allah before islam. As you know, Muhammad's father's name is Abduallah, meaning servant of Allah. It is also a known fact that Mutalleb and Abduallah, Muhammad's parents were idol worshipers. What was their idol? Allah as in Abduallah, servant of Allah.The same Allah Muhammad went to worship at the cave of Hira before the Truth descended upon him. What Truth? The continued worship of Allah, which was already in their family? This shows islam is the continuation of worship of Allah, the idol Muhammad's parents were worshiping. 2. When Gabriel approached Muhammad, without saying anything first, he told Muhammad to read. Read what? He had not spoken anything to him and did not come with anything written document. The next thing was pressed him thrice almost to death point. To me that was wickedness and violence. God's angels don't behave that way. 3. The fact that Gabriel did not speak anything or show any document before asking Muhammad to read means he lied. So he started his revelation with lies. That is the faulty foundation of islam on which the truth cannot be built. 1 Like |
Re: Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by malvisguy212: 6:27pm On Sep 03, 2014 |
Abdulsalam20: WHEN I SAID BACA IS ANCIENT NAME OF MECCA I QUOTED BOTH THE QURAN AND BIBLE U GUYS NEVER BELIEVE I SAID THE ARABIAN ARE DESCENDANT OF ABRAHAM U NEVER BELIEVE SO THE ONLY WAY I CAN PROVE MYSELF RIGHT AND PROVE U GUYS WRONG IS TO QUOTE FROM ENCYCLOPEDIA WEBSITE WHICH THEIR INFORMATION IS BASED ON RESEARCH SO U CAN SEE NOW THAT U ARE THE ONE THAT IS CONFUSED AND NOT ME BECAUSE ISLAM HAVE BEEN PERFECTED BY GOD NOTHING TO BE CONFUSE ABOUTthere is know verse in the bible that mention mecca,you guys are talkin as if God is weak, you mean Allah was sleeping when the pagan are worshiping there 360 gods in Kabba? This is the simple truth, YAWEH Of the bible is not Allah in the bible. 1 Like |
Re: Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by Abdulsalam20(m): 6:32pm On Sep 03, 2014 |
Muhammad's first revelation According to Islam , Muhammad's first revelation was the event in which Muhammad was visited by the Arch-angel Gabriel who revealed to him a verse from the Quran . The event took place in a cave called Hira , located on the mountain called Jabal an-Nour, near Mecca. According to biographies of Muhammad, while on retreat in a mountain cave (cave of Hira) near Mecca, the Arch-angel Gabriel appears to him and commands him to recite the first lines of chapter 96 of the Quran. Muhammad's experience is mentioned in the Quran 53:4-9: [1] Before the revelation Muhammad was born and raised in Mecca. When He was nearly 40, he used to spend many hours alone in prayer and speculating over the aspects of creation. [2] He was concerned with the social unrest , injustice, widespread discrimination (particularly against women ), fighting among tribes and abuse of tribal authorities prevalent in pre- Islamic Arabia .[3] The moral degeneration of his fellow people, and his own quest for a true religion further lent fuel to this, with the result that he now began to withdraw periodically to a cave named Mount Hira , three miles north of Mecca, for contemplation and reflection. [4] Islamic tradition holds that Muhammad during this period began to have dreams replete with spiritual significance which were fulfilled according to their true import; and this was the commencement of his divine revelation.[5][2] This created inclination in him to engage himself in solitary worshipping. [6] The first revelation According to Islamic tradition, during one such occasion while he was in contemplation, the archangel Gabriel appeared before him in the year 610 CE and said, ‘Recite’, upon which he replied, ‘I am unable to recite’. Thereupon the angel caught hold of him and embraced him heavily. This happened two more time after which the angel commanded Muhammad to recite the following verses : [7][8][9] After the revelation Perplexed by this new experience, Muhammad made his way to home where he was consoled by his wife Khadijah, who also took him to her Ebionite cousin Waraqah ibn Nawfal. Waraqah was familiar with Jewish and Christian scriptures. Islamic tradition holds that Waraqah, upon hearing the description, testified to Muhammad's prophethood, [2][11] and convinced Muhammad that the revelation was from God. [12] Waraqah said: "O my nephew! What did you see?" When Muhammad told him what had happened to him, Waraqah replied: "This is Namus (meaning Gabriel) that Allah sent to Moses. I wish I were younger. I wish I could live up to the time when your people would turn you out." Muhammad asked: "Will they drive me out?" Waraqah answered in the affirmative and said: "Anyone who came with something similar to what you have brought was treated with hostility; and if I should be alive until that day, then I would support you strongly." A few days later Waraqah died. [13] The initial revelation was followed by a pause and a second encounter with Gabriel when Muhammad heard a voice from the sky and saw the same angel "sitting between the sky and the earth" and the revelations resumed with the first verses of chapter 74. At-Tabari and Ibn Hisham reported that Muhammad left the cave of Hira after being surprised by the revelation, but later on, returned to the cave and continued his solitude, though subsequently he returned to Mecca . Tabari and Ibn Ishaq write that Muhammad told Zubayr:[13] "when I was midway on the mountain, I heard a voice from heaven saying "O Muhammad! you are the apostle of Allah and I am Gabriel." I raised my head towards heaven to see who was speaking, and Gabriel in the form of a man with feet astride the horizon, saying, "O Muhammad! you are the apostle of Allah and I am Gabriel." I stood gazing at him moving neither forward nor backward, then I began to turn my face away from him, but towards whatever region of the sky I looked, I saw him as before." There is doubt about the period of time between Muhammad's first and second experiences of revelation. Ibn Ishaq writes that three years elapsed from the time that Muhammad received the first revelation until he started to preach publicly. Bukhari takes chapter 74 as the second revelation however chapter 68 has strong claims to be the second revelation.[14]....... |
Re: Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by Abdulsalam20(m): 6:34pm On Sep 03, 2014 |
@ MALVISGUY U SAID THE ANGEL SAID READ IN THE NAME OF YOUR LORD WITHOUT HOLDING ANY DOCUMENT AND HE SAID I AM NOT LEARNED IT IS EVIDENT IN THE BIBLE Muhammad (pbuh) is prophesised in the book of Isaiah: It is mentioned in the book of Isaiah chapter 29 verse 12: "And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned." When Archangel Gabrail commanded Muhammad (pbuh) by saying Iqra - "Read", he replied, "I am not learned" .SO READ UR BOOK WELL AND UNDERSTAND IT |
Re: Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by eyeopener: 6:43pm On Sep 03, 2014 |
Abdulsalam20Says who? What is your source? [Surah 9:29 - Shakir] Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day,[/b]nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Messenger have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, [b]out of those who have been given the Book,[/b]until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection. [Surah 9:29 - Pickthal ] Fight against such of t[b]hose who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, and forbid not that which Allah hath forbidden by His messenger, and follow not the Religion of Truth, until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low. [Surah 9:29 - Yusufali ] Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. The common thing in those quranic verses is " those who do not believe in allah" out of those who have been given the Book or Scripture. This means anyone who is not a muslim (Kafri) is being referred to. The Jews and Christians are inclusive and called "disbelievers". In all the translations, you can see "Fight". Why are Jews and Christians to be fought if they are not Kafri? Why would he command muslims to fight them if he is their God? [Pickthal 109:1] Say: O disbelievers! -(including the Jews and Christians) [Pickthal 109:2] I worship not that which ye worship; [Pickthal 109:3] Nor worship ye that which I worship. [Pickthal 109:4] And I shall not worship that which ye worship. [Pickthal 109:5] Nor will ye worship that which I worship. [Pickthal 109:6] Unto you your religion, and unto me my religion. The question still remains "who is Allah"? who said he is not the God of the Jews and Christians? Were he the God of the Jews and Christians, he would not have commanded muslims to fight them. You have no hidding place. 1 Like |
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