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Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by Abdulsalam20(m): 11:02am On Aug 31, 2014
PILLARS OF ISLAM IN THE BIBLE
5. THE PILGRIMAGE(TO KA'BAH)
Q3:96-97-Verily,the first House(of worship) appointed for
mankind was that at Bakkah(Makkah),full of blessing,and a
guidance for Al-Alamin(the mankind and jinns).In it are
manifest signs(for example),the Maqam(place) of Ibrahim
(Abraham(AS));whoever enters it,he attains security.And
Hank(Pilgrimage to Makkah) to the House(Ka'bah) is a duty
that mankind owes to Allah,those who can afford the
expenses(for one's conveyance,provision and residence);and
whoever disbelieves (denies Hajj(pilgrimage to Makkah),then
he is a disbeliever of Allah),then Allah stands not in need of
any of the Alamin(mankind and jinns).
Psalms 84:5-6 "Blessed are those whose strength is in
you,who have set their hearts,on pilgrimage.As they pass
through the valley of BACA(Makkah),they make it a place of
springs;the rain also it with pools(Zamzam water).
But,based on their logics,I found an answered to it already
(that the place mentioned is Jerusalem).Here are my
findings :
JEREMIAH 13:27 "I God have seen your adultery and evil and
arrogance,WOE,unto you JERUSALEM never shall you be
holy again"
GALANTIANS 4:25 "Because Hangar is the Sinai mountain of
Arabia that stands for the (cursed) Jerusalem of today.
MATTHEW 21:42-43 "Jesus said to them(the Jews) have you
never read in the scriptures(eg, Jeremiah,Galantians etc);the
stone(black stone of Makkah) which the builders rejected has
became the CHIEF CORNER STONE.This is the Lord's doing
and it is marvelous in our eye?Therefore,I say to you,the
kingdom of God will be taken from you and given to a nation
bearing the fruits of it.
SACRIFICES IN MECCA
ISAIAH 60:1-7 "...The multitude or camels shall cover
thee,the dromedaries or Midian and Ephah;all they from
Sheba come ;they shall bring gold and incense; and they
shall shew forth the praises of the LORD. All the flocks of
Kedar(Ka'bah) shall be gathered together unto thee,the rams
of Nebaioth shall minister unto thee:they shall come up with
acceptance on mine altar,and I will glorify the house ot my
glory..........PLEASE I NEED SOMEONE TO CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG
Re: Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by remsonik(f): 11:32am On Aug 31, 2014
So you needed to twist the bible to validate your holy land. So u needed to use the bible to validate Islam. Mtcheew evn mohammed will be shaking his head at you right now.

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Re: Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by Abdulsalam20(m): 11:46am On Aug 31, 2014
remsonik: So you needed to twist the bible to validate your holy land. So u needed to use the bible to validate Islam. Mtcheew evn mohammed will be shaking his head at you right now.
U CAN SEE THAT BACA WAS MENTIONED IN THE BIBLE LOOK AT THE POST ABOVE AND BACA IS THE ANCIENT NAME OF MECCA LET ME GIVE U EVIDENCE FROM THE LARGEST ENCYCLOPEDIA WEBSITE www.en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bakkah
Bakkah (Arabic: بكة‎) is an ancient name for Mecca, the most holy city of Islam.[1] Most people believe they are synonyms, but to Muslim scholars there is a distinction: Bakkah refers to the Kaaba and the sacred site immediately surrounding it, while Mecca is the name of the city in which they are both located.[2]

According to Lisan Al Arab of Ibn Manzor, the site of Kaaba and its surroundings was named Bakkah due to crowding and congestion of people in the area. The Arabic verb bakka (بكَّ), with double "k", means to crowd like in a bazaar. This is not to be confused with another unrelated Arabic verb baka (بَكَى)(single k) which is the past participle of yabki (يَبْكِي), to cry.

Bakkah is mentioned in sura 3 (Al-i-Imran), ayah 96 of the Qur'an, where it is said to be the site of the first place of worship.[3][4][5].............SOURCE........WIKIPEDIA THIS IS THE LINK www.en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bakkah
Re: Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by mazaje(m): 4:57pm On Aug 31, 2014
Abdulsalam20: PLEASE I NEED SOMEONE TO CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG

You are not only very wrong but also very deluded. . . .

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Re: Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by Abdulsalam20(m): 6:11pm On Aug 31, 2014
mazaje:

You are not only very wrong but also very deluded. . . .
I SAID PROVE ME WRONG NOT ABUSE JUST EXPLAIN IT IF I AM LYING U DIDNT EXPLAIN U ARE JUST INSULTING ME PLS PROVE ME WRONG
Re: Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by mazaje(m): 6:19pm On Aug 31, 2014
Abdulsalam20: I SAID PROVE ME WRONG NOT ABUSE JUST EXPLAIN IT IF I AM LYING U DIDNT EXPLAIN U ARE JUST INSULTING ME PLS PROVE ME WRONG

I am not insulting you, i am just calling you what you are, a deluded fellow and some one that distorts things and tell lies. . .Your lies are there for all to see. . .

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Re: Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by Abdulsalam20(m): 6:35pm On Aug 31, 2014
mazaje:

I am not insulting you, i am just calling you what you are, a deluded fellow and some one that distorts things and tell lies. . .Your lies are there for all to see. . .
WHERE DID I LIE AND TELL ME WHY IT IS A LIE
Re: Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by mazaje(m): 8:40pm On Aug 31, 2014
Abdulsalam20: WHERE DID I LIE AND TELL ME WHY IT IS A LIE

Everything you wrote in the Op is a lie. . . .

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Re: Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by Abdulsalam20(m): 9:13pm On Aug 31, 2014
mazaje:

Everything you wrote in the Op is a lie. . . .
I KNOW U WILL SAY DAT VERSE IS REFERING TO JERUSALEM...........PLS WHERE IS BACA LOCATED
Re: Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by mazaje(m): 9:18pm On Aug 31, 2014
Abdulsalam20: I KNOW U WILL SAY DAT VERSE IS REFERING TO JERUSALEM...........PLS WHERE IS BACA LOCATED

Where is BACA written in the Koran?. . .Baca is NOT bakka or mecca. .Stop telling lies. . .

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Re: Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by Abdulsalam20(m): 9:23pm On Aug 31, 2014
mazaje:

Where is BACA written in the Koran?. . .Baca is NOT bakka or mecca. .Stop telling lies. . .
IT IS MENTIONED IN THE QURAN IN sura 3 (Al-i-Imran ), ayah 96 of the
Qur'an , where it is said to be the site of the first place of
worship.AND ALSO IN THE BIBLE AND AT LEAST I HAVE GIVEN U D EVIDENCE FROM THE LARGEST ENCYCLOPEDIA WEBSITE THAT BACA IS THE ANCIENT NAME OF MECCA
Re: Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by mazaje(m): 10:26pm On Aug 31, 2014
Abdulsalam20: IT IS MENTIONED IN THE QURAN IN sura 3 (Al-i-Imran ), ayah 96 of the
Qur'an , where it is said to be the site of the first place of
worship.AND ALSO IN THE BIBLE AND AT LEAST I HAVE GIVEN U D EVIDENCE FROM THE LARGEST ENCYCLOPEDIA WEBSITE THAT BACA IS THE ANCIENT NAME OF MECCA

Its says Bakkah NOT Baca. . .Bakkah is NOT the same as Baca. . .

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Re: Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by Abdulsalam20(m): 6:42am On Sep 01, 2014
mazaje:

Its says Bakkah NOT Baca. . .Bakkah is NOT the same as Baca. . .
U DIDNT READ ALL WHAT IS IN THAT LINK IN WIKIPEDIA IT GOES THUS; (also transliterated Baca , Baka , 'Bakke', Bakah ,
Bakka , Becca , Bekka, etc.) is the ancient name for the site of
Mecca. YOU WILL SEE THIS IN THE THIRD PARAGRAPH
Re: Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by mustang44: 7:30pm On Sep 02, 2014
The pilgrimage mentioned in Psalm 84:5,6, is clearly to Jerusalem, as
evidenced by the rest of the psalm. Why
on earth would Jews, living in Israel
and on their way to Jerusalem, take a
huge detour through Mecca? The
only link between the Bacca mentioned in the bible and the Bakkah of
the Quran is a superficial similarity in
name, nothing more.

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Re: Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by eyeopener: 9:38pm On Sep 02, 2014
@ Op

Who are you trying to convince? No Christians will take your twistings and additions to the bible seriously.
Islam cannot stand without reference to the bible. No Christian talks about Christianity referring to the quran.

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Re: Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by Abdulsalam20(m): 10:25pm On Sep 02, 2014
eyeopener: @ Op

Who are you trying to convince? No Christians will take your twistings and additions to the bible seriously.
Islam cannot stand without reference to the bible. No Christian talks about Christianity referring to the quran.
BECAUSE IF WE PREACH ISLAM TO U IN THE QURAN U ALWAYS SAY IT IS NOT A WORD OF GOD U CLAIM MUHAMMAD IS A FALSE PROPHET SO WE HAVE TO TELL U THE TRUTH WE HAVE TO GIVE U EVIDENCE IN UR BIBLE ABOUT THE COMING OF MUHAMMAD AND EVEN THOUGH U TAMPER THE BIBLE THE TRUTH IS STILL IN IT AND THIS IS VERSE OF HAJJ IN THE QURAN [2:158] The knolls of Safa and Marwah
are among the rites decreed by GOD.
Anyone who observes Hajj or `Umrah
commits no error by traversing the
distance between them. If one
volunteers more righteous works, then
GOD is Appreciative, Omniscient.
(sub-title) Do Not Beat Around the Bush
[2:189] They ask you about the phases
of the moon! Say, "They provide a
timing device for the people, and
determine the time of Hajj." It is not
righteous to beat around the bush;*
righteousness is attained by upholding
the commandments and by being
straightforward. You shall observe GOD,
that you may succeed.
Footnote: *2:189 The literal Quranic
idiom says: "Do not enter the homes
through the back doors." The question
about the phases of the moon is an
example of beating around the bush;
there were bad ulterior motives behind
this question.
(sub-title) Hajj and `Umrah Pilgrimage*
[2:196] You shall observe the complete
rites of Hajj and`Umrah for GOD. If you
are prevented, you shall send an
offering, and do not resume cutting
your hair until your offering has
reached its destination. If you are ill, or
suffering a head injury (and you must
cut your hair), you shall expiate by
fasting, or giving to charity, or some
other form of worship. During the
normal Hajj, if you break the state of
Ihraam (sanctity) between `Umrah and
Hajj, you shall expiate by offering an
animal sacrifice. If you cannot afford it,
you shall fast three days during Hajj and
seven when you return home - this
completes ten - provided you do not live
at the Sacred Masjid. You shall observe
GOD, and know that GOD is strict in
enforcing retribution.
Footnote: *2:196 See the details of Hajj
and `Umrah in Appendix 15.
(sub-title) The Four Months of Hajj (Zul-Hijjah,
Muharram, Safar, & Rabi I)
[2:197] Hajj shall be observed in the
specified months.* Whoever sets out to
observe Hajj shall refrain from sexual
intercourse, misconduct, and arguments
throughout Hajj. Whatever good you do,
GOD is fully aware thereof. As you
prepare your provisions for the journey,
the best provision is righteousness. You
shall observe Me, O you who possess
intelligence.
Footnote: *2:197 Hajj can be observed
any time during the Sacred Months: Zul-
Hijjah, Muharram, Safar, and Rabi I.
Local governments restrict Hajj to a few
days for their own convenience. See 9:37
[2:198-201] You commit no error by
seeking provisions from your Lord
(through commerce). When you file
from `Arafaat, you shall commemorate
GOD at the Sacred Location (of
Muzdalifah). You shall commemorate
Him for guiding you; before this, you
had gone astray. You shall file together,
with the rest of the people who file, and
ask GOD for forgiveness. GOD is
Forgiver, Most Merciful. Once you
complete your rites, you shall continue
to commemorate GOD as you
commemorate your own parents, or
even better. Some people would say,
"Our Lord, give us of this world," while
having no share in the Hereafter.
Others would say, "Our Lord, grant us
righteousness in this world, and
righteousness in the Hereafter, and
spare us the retribution of Hell."
(sub-title) Mena: Last Rites of Hajj
[2:203] You shall commemorate GOD
for a number of days (in Mena);
whoever hastens to do this in two days
commits no sin, and whoever stays
longer commits no sin, so long as
righteousness is maintained. You shall
observe GOD, and know that before Him
you will be gathered.
[3:96-97] The most important shrine
established for the people is the one in
Becca;* a blessed beacon for all the
people. In it are clear signs: the station
of Abraham. Anyone who enters it shall
be granted safe passage. The people
owe it to GOD that they shall observe
Hajj to this shrine, when they can afford
it. As for those who disbelieve, GOD
does not need anyone.
[5:1-2] O you who believe, you shall
fulfill your covenants. Permitted for you
to eat are the livestock, except those
specifically prohibited herein. You shall
not permit hunting throughout Hajj
pilgrimage. GOD decrees whatever He
wills. O you who believe, do not violate
the rites instituted by GOD, nor the
Sacred Months, nor the animals to be
offered, nor the garlands marking them,
nor the people who head for the Sacred
Shrine (Ka`bah) seeking blessings from
their Lord and approval. Once you
complete the pilgrimage, you may
hunt.* Do not be provoked into
aggression by your hatred of people
who once prevented you from going to
the Sacred Masjid. You shall cooperate
in matters of righteousness and piety;
do not cooperate in matters that are
sinful and evil. You shall observe GOD.
GOD is strict in enforcing retribution.
Footnote: *5:2 Hunting and the cutting of
plants are forbidden during pilgrimage
for the conservation of natural resources.
With thousands of pilgrims converging on
Mecca, if hunting were permitted, the
land would quickly be stripped of its
natural resources. Animal offerings are
made part of the pilgrimage to provide
for the converging pilgrims, as well as
the local population, and to replenish any
depleted supplies. See 2:196.
(sub-title) Game Conservation
[5:94-95] O you who believe, GOD will
test you with some game within reach of
your hands and your arrows (during
pilgrimage). GOD thus distinguishes
those among you who observe Him in
their privacy. Those who transgress
after this have incurred a painful
retribution. O you who believe, do not
kill any game during pilgrimage.
Anyone who kills any game on purpose,
his fine shall be a number of livestock
animals that is equivalent to the game
animals he killed. The judgment shall be
set by two equitable people among you.
They shall make sure that the offerings
reach the Ka`bah. Otherwise, he may
expiate by feeding poor people, or by
an equivalent fast to atone for his
offense. GOD has pardoned past
offenses. But if anyone returns to such
an offense, GOD will avenge it. GOD is
Almighty, Avenger.........JUST PROVE ME WRONG FOR WHAT I SAID ONE OF U JUST RUN AWAT WHEN I GIVE HIM EVIDENCE SO JUST SAY WHERE I AM WRONG

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Re: Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by eyeopener: 1:59pm On Sep 03, 2014
Have you not read that Muhammad is not from the descent of God's prophets? Why do you still believe him and his quran?

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Re: Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by Abdulsalam20(m): 4:08pm On Sep 03, 2014
eyeopener: Have you not read that Muhammad is not from the descent of God's prophets? Why do you still believe him and his quran?
PROPHET MUHAMMAD (pbuh) IN THE BIBLE
by Dr. Zakir Naik
Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) in the Old Testament:
The Qur’an mentions in Surah Al-Araf chapter 7 verse 157:
"Those who follow the Messenger, the unlettered Prophet,
whom they
find mentioned in their own (scriptures) in the law and the
Gospel".
1. MUHAMMAD (PBUH) PROPHESISED IN THE BOOK OF
DEUTERONOMY:
Almighty God speaks to Moses in Book of Deuteronomy
chapter 18 verse 18:
"I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren,
like
unto thee, and I will put my words in his mouth; and he
shall speak unto them all that I shall command him."
The Christians say that this prophecy refers to Jesus (pbuh)
because Jesus (pbuh) was like Moses (pbuh). Moses (pbuh)
was a Jew, as well as Jesus (pbuh) was a Jew. Moses
(pbuh)
was a Prophet and Jesus (pbuh) was also a Prophet.
If these two are the only criteria for this prophecy to be
fulfilled, then all the Prophets of the Bible who came after
Moses (pbuh) such as Solomon, Isaiah, Ezekiel, Daniel,
Hosea, Joel, Malachi, John the Baptist, etc. (pbut) will
fulfill this prophecy since all were Jews as well as prophets.
However, it is Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) who is like Moses
(pbuh):
i) Both had a father and a mother, while Jesus (pbuh) was
born miraculously without any male intervention.
[Mathew 1:18 and Luke 1:35 and also Al-Qur'an 3:42-47]
ii) Both were married and had children. Jesus (pbuh)
according to the Bible did not marry nor had children.
iii) Both died natural deaths. Jesus (pbuh) has been raised
up
alive. (4:157-158)
Muhammad (pbuh) is from among the brethren of Moses
(pbuh). Arabs are brethren of Jews. Abraham (pbuh) had two
sons: Ishmail and Isaac (pbut). The Arabs are the
descendants of Ishmail (pbuh) and the Jews are the
descendants of Isaac (pbuh).
Words in the mouth:
Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was unlettered and whatever
revelations he received from Almighty God he repeated them
verbatim.
"I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren,
like
unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall
speak unto them all that I shall command him."
[Deuteronomy 18:18]
iv) Both besides being Prophets were also kings i.e. they
could
inflict capital punishment. Jesus (pbuh) said, "My
kingdom is not of this world." (John 18:36).
v) Both were accepted as Prophets by their people in their
lifetime but Jesus (pbuh) was rejected by his
people. John chapter 1 verse 11 states, "He came unto his
own, but his own received him not."
iv) Both brought new laws and new regulations for their
people. Jesus (pbuh) according to the Bible did not bring
any new laws. (Mathew 5:17-18) .
2. It is Mentioned in the book of Deuteronomy chapter 18:19
"And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not harken
unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will
require it of him."
3. Muhammad (pbuh) is prophesised in the book of Isaiah:
It is mentioned in the book of Isaiah chapter 29 verse 12:
"And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying,
Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned."
When Archangel Gabrail commanded Muhammad (pbuh) by
saying Iqra - "Read", he replied, "I am not learned" .
4. prophet Muhammad (pbuh) mentioned by name in the old
testament:
Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is mentioned by name in the
Song
of Solomon chapter 5 verse 16:
" Hikko Mamittakim we kullo Muhammadim Zehdoodeh wa
Zehraee Bayna Jerusalem ."
"His mouth is most sweet: yea, he is altogether lovely. This is
my beloved, and this is my friend, O daughters
of Jerusalem."
In the Hebrew language im is added for respect. Similarely im
is added after the name of Prophet Muhammad
(pbuh) to make it Muhammadim. In English translation they
have even translated the name of Prophet Muhammad
(pbuh) as "altogether lovely", but in the Old Testament in
Hebrew, the name of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is yet
present.
Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) in the New Testament:
Al-Qur'an Chapter 61 Verse 6:
"And remember, Jesus, the son of Mary, said, 'O Children of
Israel! I
am the messenger of Allah (sent) to you, confirming the Law
(which
came) before me and giving glad tidings of a messenger to
come
after me, whose name shall be Ahmed.' But when he came to
them
with clear signs, they said, 'This is evident sorcery!' "
All the prophecies mentioned in the Old Testament regarding
Muhammad (pbuh) besides applying to the Jews also hold
good for
the Christians.
1. John chapter 14 verse 16:
"And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another
Comforter, that he may abide with you forever."
2. Gospel of John chapter 15 verse 26:
"But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you
from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which
proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me."
3. Gospel of John chapter 16 verse 7:
"Nevertheless I tell you the truth; it is expedient for you that I
go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not
come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you".
"Ahmed" or "Muhammad" meaning "the one who praises" or
"the praised one" is almost the translation of the
Greek word Periclytos. In the Gospel of John 14:16, 15:26,
and
16:7. The word 'Comforter' is used in the English
translation for the Greek word Paracletos which means
advocate or a kind friend rather than a comforter.
Paracletos is the warped reading for Periclytos. Jesus (pbuh)
actually prophesised Ahmed by name. Even the
Greek word Paraclete refers to the Prophet (pbuh) who is a
mercy for all creatures.
Some Christians say that the Comforter mentioned in these
prophecies refers to the Holy Sprit. They fail to realise
that the prophecy clearly says that only if Jesus (pbuh)
departs will the Comforter come. The Bible states that the
Holy Spirit was already present on earth before and during
the
time of Jesus (pbuh), in the womb of Elizabeth, and again
when Jesus (pbuh) was being baptised, etc. Hence this
prophecy refers to none other than Prophet
Muhammad (pbuh).
4. Gospel of John chapter 16 verse 12-14:
"I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear
them now. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth is
come, he will guide you unto all truth: for he shall not speak
of
himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak:
and he will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me".
The Sprit of Truth, spoken about in this prophecy referes to
none
other than Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)
NOTE : All quotations of the Bible are taken from the King
James
Version.
Reference: http://www.irf.net/irf/comparativereligion/
index.htm

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Re: Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by Abdulsalam20(m): 4:10pm On Sep 03, 2014
eyeopener: Have you not read that Muhammad is not from the descent of God's prophets? Why do you still believe him and his quran?
THIS IS AN EVIDENCE FROM AN ENCYCLOPEDIA WEBSITE THAT ARABIANS ARE DESCENDANT OF ISMAHEEL FIRST SON OF ABRAHAM(HAZRAT IBRAHIM www.en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishmael
Re: Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by eyeopener: 4:25pm On Sep 03, 2014
Muhammad is not and cannot be in the bible. The God of the bible is not muslims Allah. Therefore allah can not have his own prophet in the bible.

Jesus said he was the One spoken of by all the prophets in the Bible (Luke 24:27).

All the bible references you posted are talking about Jesus,not Muhammad. Stop trying to deceive.

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Re: Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by Abdulsalam20(m): 4:50pm On Sep 03, 2014
mustang44: The pilgrimage mentioned in Psalm 84:5,6, is clearly to Jerusalem, as
evidenced by the rest of the psalm. Why
on earth would Jews, living in Israel
and on their way to Jerusalem, take a
huge detour through Mecca? The
only link between the Bacca mentioned in the bible and the Bakkah of
the Quran is a superficial similarity in
name, nothing more.
SO WIKIPEDIA WILL LIE SMH grin grin grin grin...........WIKIPEDIA WILL HAVE SPECIFY IF IT IS JERUSALEM
JERUSALEM IS NO MORE AN HOLY LAND
JEREMIAH 13:27 "I God have seen your adultery and evil and
arrogance,WOE,unto you JERUSALEM never shall you be
holy again"
GALANTIANS 4:25 "Because Hangar is the Sinai mountain of
Arabia that stands for the (cursed) Jerusalem of today.
Re: Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by Abdulsalam20(m): 4:54pm On Sep 03, 2014
eyeopener: Muhammad is not and cannot be in the bible. The God of the bible is not muslims Allah. Therefore allah can not have his own prophet in the bible.

Jesus said he was the One spoken of by all the prophets in the Bible (Luke 24:27).

All the bible references you posted are talking about Jesus,not Muhammad. Stop trying to deceive.
U BETTER READ D VERSE U QUOTED WELL BEFORE CONCLUDING
EVEN IT IS IN THE NEW TESTAMENT THIS IS AFTER THE DEMISE IF JESUS OOO
1. John chapter 14 verse 16:
"And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another
Comforter, that he may abide with you forever."
2. Gospel of John chapter 15 verse 26:
"But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you
from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which
proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me."
3. Gospel of John chapter 16 verse 7:
"Nevertheless I tell you the truth; it is expedient for you that I
go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not
come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you".
"Ahmed" or "Muhammad" meaning "the one who praises" or
"the praised one" is almost the translation of the
Greek word Periclytos. In the Gospel of John 14:16, 15:26,
and
16:7. The word 'Comforter' is used in the English
translation for the Greek word Paracletos which means
advocate or a kind friend rather than a comforter.
Paracletos is the warped reading for Periclytos. Jesus (pbuh)
actually prophesised Ahmed by name. Even the
Greek word Paraclete refers to the Prophet (pbuh) who is a
mercy for all creatures.
Some Christians say that the Comforter mentioned in these
prophecies refers to the Holy Sprit. They fail to realise
that the prophecy clearly says that only if Jesus (pbuh)
departs will the Comforter come. The Bible states that the
Holy Spirit was already present on earth before and during
the
time of Jesus (pbuh), in the womb of Elizabeth, and again
when Jesus (pbuh) was being baptised, etc. Hence this
prophecy refers to none other than Prophet
Muhammad (pbuh).
4. Gospel of John chapter 16 verse 12-14:
"I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear
them now. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth is
come, he will guide you unto all truth: for he shall not speak
of
himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak:
and he will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me".
The Sprit of Truth, spoken about in this prophecy referes to
none
other than Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)
Re: Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by eyeopener: 5:06pm On Sep 03, 2014
Abdulsalam20: THIS IS AN EVIDENCE FROM AN ENCYCLOPEDIA WEBSITE THAT ARABIANS ARE DESCENDANT OF ISMAHEEL FIRST SON OF ABRAHAM(HAZRAT IBRAHIM www.en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishmael

Do you believe 'wikipedia' more than quran that says what muslims worship (allah) is not the God of the Jews and Christians, which is the true God? See surah 9:29 that says Christians are disbelievers in Allah. Then allah said what the disbelievers (Jews and Christians) worship is not what muslims worship (surah 109-1-6).

Then who is this allah?

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Re: Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by malvisguy212: 5:54pm On Sep 03, 2014
Abdulsalam20: THIS IS AN EVIDENCE FROM AN ENCYCLOPEDIA WEBSITE THAT ARABIANS ARE DESCENDANT OF ISMAHEEL FIRST SON OF ABRAHAM(HAZRAT IBRAHIM www.en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishmael
so wikipedia is now your quran? You guys are Soooo confused.

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Re: Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by Abdulsalam20(m): 6:01pm On Sep 03, 2014
eyeopener:

Do you believe 'wikipedia' more than quran that says what muslims worship (allah) is not the God of the Jews and Christians, which is the true God? See surah 9:29 that says Christians are disbelievers in Allah. Then allah said what the disbelievers (Jews and Christians) worship is not what muslims worship (surah 109-1-6).

Then who is this allah?
open your eye this is what is in 9:29; 1:29 Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. (who are the people of scripture the people who the torah and the injill has been sent to them and the prophesy of muhammad was ascribed to them ut they rejet it) and 109:6
1:1 Say : O ye that reject Faith!1:2 I worship not that which ye worship,1:3 Nor will ye worship that which I worship.1:4 And I will not worship that which ye have been wont to worship,1:5 Nor will ye worship that which I worship.1:6 To you be your Way, and to me mine.
THIS VERSES WAS REVEALED WHEN THE IDOLATORS OF MEKAH CAME TO MUHAMMAD THAT HE SHOULD JOIN THEM SO THAT THEY WILL JOIN HIM ALSO IN ISLAM........THAT IS WHEN THIS VERSE WAS REVEALED INDEED ISLAM HAS BEEN PERFECTED BY GOD EVERY VERSE IN THE QURAN WAS REVEALED WITH A REASON
THE WORD ALLAH IS THE ARABIC NAME OF GOD TO CONFIRM THIS GO AND MAE RESEARCH THE CHRISTIANS IN ARAB COUNTRIES IN THEIR BIBLE SINCE IT IS WRITTEN IN ARABIC ALLAH IS WRITTEN THERE TO MEAN GOD
U SAID I LIKE TOPOST FROM WIKIPEDIA YES!.....I GAVE UR BROTHER REFERENCE IN THE QURAN AND BIBLE HE DENIED IT SO I DECIDE TO GIVE HIM EVIDENCE FROM WIKIPEDIA ONE OF THE LARGEST ENCYCLOPEDIA WEBSITE

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Re: Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by Abdulsalam20(m): 6:05pm On Sep 03, 2014
malvisguy212: so wikipedia is now your quran? You guys are Soooo confused.
WHEN I SAID BACA IS ANCIENT NAME OF MECCA I QUOTED BOTH THE QURAN AND BIBLE U GUYS NEVER BELIEVE I SAID THE ARABIAN ARE DESCENDANT OF ABRAHAM U NEVER BELIEVE SO THE ONLY WAY I CAN PROVE MYSELF RIGHT AND PROVE U GUYS WRONG IS TO QUOTE FROM ENCYCLOPEDIA WEBSITE WHICH THEIR INFORMATION IS BASED ON RESEARCH SO U CAN SEE NOW THAT U ARE THE ONE THAT IS CONFUSED AND NOT ME BECAUSE ISLAM HAVE BEEN PERFECTED BY GOD NOTHING TO BE CONFUSE ABOUT
Re: Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by Abdulsalam20(m): 6:09pm On Sep 03, 2014
JUST ACCEPT THE TRUTH
Re: Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by malvisguy212: 6:20pm On Sep 03, 2014
Abdulsalam20: JUST ACCEPT THE TRUTH
The commencement of the Divine
Inspiration to Allah's Apostle was in the
form of good righteous (true) dreams in
his sleep. He never had a dream but that
it came true like bright day light. He used to go in seclusion (the cave of) Hira where
he used to worship(Allah Alone) continuously for many (days) nights. He
used to take with him the journey food
for that (stay) and then come back to (his
wife) Khadija to take his food like-wise
again for another period to stay, till suddenly the Truth descended upon him
while he was in the cave of Hira. The angel came to him in it and asked him to
read. The Prophet replied, "I do not know
how to read." (The Prophet added), "The angel caught me (FORCEFULLY) AND
PRESSED ME SO HARD THAT I COULD NOT
BEAR IT ANY MORE . He then released me and again asked me to read, and I
replied, "I do not know how to read," WHEREUPON HE CAUGHT ME AGAIN AND
PRESSED ME THE SECOND TIME TILL I COULD
NOT BEAR IT ANYMORE. He then released me and asked me again to read, but
again I replied, "I do not know how to
read (or, what shall I read?)." THEREUPON GHHE CAUT ME FOR THE THIRD TIME AND
PRESSED ME and then released me and
said, "Read: In the Name of your Lord, Who has created (all that exists). Has
created man from a clot. Read and Your
Lord is Most Generous...up to..... ..that
which he knew not." (96.15). (Bukahri Volume 9, Book 87, Number 111) [b][/b]
I may not be able to continue with you
because you are drawing me back. I am
surprised you do not know some basic
things in islam hence your request for
evidence above. Now, let analyze the above hadith:
1. Muhammad was in the cave of Hira to
worship Allah alone before the Truth
descended upon him. It means he had
been worshiping Allah before islam. As
you know, Muhammad's father's name is Abduallah, meaning servant of Allah. It is
also a known fact that Mutalleb and
Abduallah, Muhammad's parents were
idol worshipers. What was their idol?
Allah as in Abduallah, servant of Allah.The
same Allah Muhammad went to worship at the cave of Hira before the Truth
descended upon him. What Truth? The
continued worship of Allah, which was
already in their family? This shows islam
is the continuation of worship of Allah,
the idol Muhammad's parents were worshiping.
2. When Gabriel approached Muhammad,
without saying anything first, he told
Muhammad to read. Read what? He had
not spoken anything to him and did not
come with anything written document. The next thing was pressed him thrice
almost to death point. To me that was
wickedness and violence. God's angels
don't behave that way.
3. The fact that Gabriel did not speak
anything or show any document before asking Muhammad to read means he lied.
So he started his revelation with lies. That
is the faulty foundation of islam on which
the truth cannot be built.

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Re: Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by malvisguy212: 6:27pm On Sep 03, 2014
Abdulsalam20: WHEN I SAID BACA IS ANCIENT NAME OF MECCA I QUOTED BOTH THE QURAN AND BIBLE U GUYS NEVER BELIEVE I SAID THE ARABIAN ARE DESCENDANT OF ABRAHAM U NEVER BELIEVE SO THE ONLY WAY I CAN PROVE MYSELF RIGHT AND PROVE U GUYS WRONG IS TO QUOTE FROM ENCYCLOPEDIA WEBSITE WHICH THEIR INFORMATION IS BASED ON RESEARCH SO U CAN SEE NOW THAT U ARE THE ONE THAT IS CONFUSED AND NOT ME BECAUSE ISLAM HAVE BEEN PERFECTED BY GOD NOTHING TO BE CONFUSE ABOUT
there is know verse in the bible that mention mecca,you guys are talkin as if God is weak, you mean Allah was sleeping when the pagan are worshiping there 360 gods in Kabba? This is the simple truth, YAWEH Of the bible is not Allah in the bible.

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Re: Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by Abdulsalam20(m): 6:32pm On Sep 03, 2014
Muhammad's first revelation
According to Islam , Muhammad's first revelation was the
event in which Muhammad was visited by the Arch-angel
Gabriel who revealed to him a verse from the Quran . The
event took place in a cave called Hira , located on the
mountain called Jabal an-Nour, near Mecca.
According to biographies of Muhammad, while on retreat in
a mountain cave (cave of Hira) near Mecca, the Arch-angel
Gabriel appears to him and commands him to recite the first
lines of chapter 96 of the Quran. Muhammad's experience is
mentioned in the Quran 53:4-9: [1]
Before the revelation
Muhammad was born and raised in Mecca. When He was
nearly 40, he used to spend many hours alone in prayer and
speculating over the aspects of creation. [2] He was
concerned with the social unrest , injustice, widespread
discrimination (particularly against women ), fighting among
tribes and abuse of tribal authorities prevalent in pre-
Islamic Arabia .[3] The moral degeneration of his fellow
people, and his own quest for a true religion further lent fuel
to this, with the result that he now began to withdraw
periodically to a cave named Mount Hira , three miles north
of Mecca, for contemplation and reflection. [4] Islamic
tradition holds that Muhammad during this period began to
have dreams replete with spiritual significance which were
fulfilled according to their true import; and this was the
commencement of his divine revelation.[5][2] This created
inclination in him to engage himself in solitary worshipping.
[6]
The first revelation
According to Islamic tradition, during one such occasion
while he was in contemplation, the archangel Gabriel
appeared before him in the year 610 CE and said, ‘Recite’,
upon which he replied, ‘I am unable to recite’. Thereupon the
angel caught hold of him and embraced him heavily. This
happened two more time after which the angel commanded
Muhammad to recite the following verses : [7][8][9]
After the revelation
Perplexed by this new experience, Muhammad made his
way to home where he was consoled by his wife Khadijah,
who also took him to her Ebionite cousin Waraqah ibn
Nawfal. Waraqah was familiar with Jewish and Christian
scriptures. Islamic tradition holds that Waraqah, upon
hearing the description, testified to Muhammad's
prophethood, [2][11] and convinced Muhammad that the
revelation was from God. [12] Waraqah said: "O my nephew!
What did you see?" When Muhammad told him what had
happened to him, Waraqah replied: "This is Namus
(meaning Gabriel) that Allah sent to Moses. I wish I were
younger. I wish I could live up to the time when your people
would turn you out." Muhammad asked: "Will they drive me
out?" Waraqah answered in the affirmative and said:
"Anyone who came with something similar to what you have
brought was treated with hostility; and if I should be alive
until that day, then I would support you strongly." A few
days later Waraqah died. [13]
The initial revelation was followed by a pause and a second
encounter with Gabriel when Muhammad heard a voice
from the sky and saw the same angel "sitting between the
sky and the earth" and the revelations resumed with the first
verses of chapter 74.
At-Tabari and Ibn Hisham reported that Muhammad left the
cave of Hira after being surprised by the revelation, but later
on, returned to the cave and continued his solitude, though
subsequently he returned to Mecca . Tabari and Ibn Ishaq
write that Muhammad told Zubayr:[13]
"when I was midway on the mountain, I heard a voice
from heaven saying "O Muhammad! you are the apostle
of Allah and I am Gabriel." I raised my head towards
heaven to see who was speaking, and Gabriel in the
form of a man with feet astride the horizon, saying, "O
Muhammad! you are the apostle of Allah and I am
Gabriel." I stood gazing at him moving neither forward
nor backward, then I began to turn my face away from
him, but towards whatever region of the sky I looked, I
saw him as before."
There is doubt about the period of time between
Muhammad's first and second experiences of revelation. Ibn
Ishaq writes that three years elapsed from the time that
Muhammad received the first revelation until he started to
preach publicly. Bukhari takes chapter 74 as the second
revelation however chapter 68 has strong claims to be the
second revelation.[14].......
Re: Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by Abdulsalam20(m): 6:34pm On Sep 03, 2014
@ MALVISGUY U SAID THE ANGEL SAID READ IN THE NAME OF YOUR LORD WITHOUT HOLDING ANY DOCUMENT AND HE SAID I AM NOT LEARNED IT IS EVIDENT IN THE BIBLE
Muhammad (pbuh) is prophesised in the book of Isaiah:
It is mentioned in the book of Isaiah chapter 29 verse 12:
"And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying,
Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned."
When Archangel Gabrail commanded Muhammad (pbuh) by
saying Iqra - "Read", he replied, "I am not learned" .SO READ UR BOOK WELL AND UNDERSTAND IT
Re: Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by eyeopener: 6:43pm On Sep 03, 2014
Abdulsalam20

THIS VERSES WAS REVEALED WHEN THE IDOLATORS OF MEKAH CAME TO MUHAMMAD THAT HE SHOULD JOIN THEM SO THAT THEY WILL JOIN HIM ALSO IN ISLAM......
Says who? What is your source?

[Surah 9:29 - Shakir] Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day,[/b]nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Messenger have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, [b]out of those who have been given the Book,[/b]until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.

[Surah 9:29 - Pickthal ] Fight against such of t[b]hose who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the Last Day,
and forbid not that which Allah hath forbidden by His messenger, and follow not the Religion of Truth, until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low.

[Surah 9:29 - Yusufali ] Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

The common thing in those quranic verses is " those who do not believe in allah" out of those who have been given the Book or Scripture. This means anyone who is not a muslim (Kafri) is being referred to. The Jews and Christians are inclusive and called "disbelievers". In all the translations, you can see "Fight". Why are Jews and Christians to be fought if they are not Kafri? Why would he command muslims to fight them if he is their God?

[Pickthal 109:1] Say: O disbelievers! -(including the Jews and Christians)

[Pickthal 109:2] I worship not that which ye worship;

[Pickthal 109:3] Nor worship ye that which I worship.

[Pickthal 109:4] And I shall not worship that which ye worship.

[Pickthal 109:5] Nor will ye worship that which I worship.

[Pickthal 109:6] Unto you your religion, and unto me my religion.

The question still remains "who is Allah"? who said he is not the God of the Jews and Christians? Were he the God of the Jews and Christians, he would not have commanded muslims to fight them.

You have no hidding place.

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