texanomaly: And your point is?

AlfaSeltzer:

You should read the book you wave around first.

texanomaly:

I can honestly say I have never once waved the Bible around.

AlfaSeltzer:

my point.

finofaya: These are not zombies. The bible does not report any craving for braaiins.

texanomaly:

I don't get you.

finofaya: These are not zombies. The bible does not report any craving for braaiins.

texanomaly:

Good observation.

AlfaSeltzer:

Wierd zombies eh! And the reaction of the people show they were very used to seeing the undead. What a book!

finofaya:

. The man mischief plenty.

AlfaSeltzer:

No, you don't.

texanomaly: And your point is?

texanomaly:

I wonder sometimes if you have multiple personality disorder.

AlfaSeltzer:

Me too. Sometimes I can't decide whether I am the father, the son or The Unholy Alfa.

plaetton: @Alphpa

Don't forget the Zombie apocalypse that occurred immediately after Jesus crucifixion. The bible says that tombs opened and dead Saints() arose and walked the streets.
Lol.

The bible forgot to tell us what happened afterwards, like whether they went back into graves or whether they blended withe rest of humanity or even sired children. lol

The liars of the bible, however, forgot that there were no dead saints at the time of Jesus. Christian Saints came about 400yrs later.
Evidence that the bible is no more than a collection old wive's tales.

malvisguy212: dos who died as rithgeou people are not dead, bible say "they slept in the Lord".jesus say "you will not test death until you see the son of man comin in the cloud" what dos this mean? Those who died a physical death are sleeping spiritualy,when christ come[which is very soon] they will be the first to see Him and then the living will meet up. Paul say "to live is christ to die is GAIN" how is death a gain? To the saint, death is GAIN because they are not realy death they are only sleeping,the devil can not tempt them because they are sleeping.THAT IS THE GAIN.

And the graves were opened - "Graves"
or sepulchres were most commonly
made, among the Jews, in solid rocks or
in caves of rocks. The rending of the
rocks, therefore, would lay them open.
The graves were opened by this earthquake, but the dead in them did not
rise until after his resurrection. And many bodies of the saints arose - Of
course, it is not known who these were,
nor what became of them. It is probable
that they were persons who had
recently died, and they appear to have
been known in Jerusalem; at least, had the ancient saints risen, they would not
have been known, and would not so
soon have been credited as those who
had recently died. Which slept - Which had died. The death
of saints is often called "sleep," Daniel 12:2; 1 Corinthians 15:18; 1 Thessalonians 4:15.

malvisguy212: dos who died as rithgeou people are not dead, bible say "they slept in the Lord".jesus say "you will not test death until you see the son of man comin in the cloud" what dos this mean? Those who died a physical death are sleeping spiritualy,when christ come[which is very soon] they will be the first to see Him and then the living will meet up.

finofaya:

Lol. You say that judgment of dead righteous people is reserved for the second coming. What of the dead unrighteous ones; do they get judged at once? If they do, then by extension the righteous ones have been judged at once, since allowing them to 'sleep' means they are certified okay for heaven.

plaetton:

You still get it , do you?
This is the problem with cognitive dissonance, it blocks certain pathways to critical thinking.

The bible said that the earth opened up and the saints rose and walked, did it not?
That is clear enough in simple english. I do not need wuru wuru interpretations, sir.

Now, the point which you artfully dodged is still staring you in the face.

Which saints rose from the dead?
Where they christian Saints or Judaist Saints?

Do you know the meaning of saint?

" In Christianity, "saint" has a wide variety of meanings, depending on its usage and the denomination. The original Christian usage referred to any believer who is "in Christ" and in whom Christ dwells, whether in heaven or in earth.[3] In Orthodox and Catholic teachings, all Christians in heaven are considered to be saints, but some are considered to be worthy of higher honor, emulation, or veneration, with official church recognition given to some saints through canonization or glorification."

I remind you that christianity, church and the idea of sainthood started few hundred years after the supposed ascension of Jesus.
From the above, there could not have been dead saints at the time of Jesus' death or resurrection, unless of course, the christian saints had traveled back 400yrs in time to play zombie apocalypse for the Jesus passion drama.

Do you get the gist now, buddy?
This was obviously an error , an embarrasing error that the bible scripture forgers of 4th century AD did think very well about before writing it down.

plaetton:

You still get it , do you?
This is the problem with cognitive dissonance, it blocks certain pathways to critical thinking.

The bible said that the earth opened up and the saints rose and walked, did it not?
That is clear enough in simple english. I do not need wuru wuru interpretations, sir.

Now, the point which you artfully dodged is still staring you in the face.

Which saints rose from the dead?
Where they christian Saints or Judaist Saints?

Do you know the meaning of saint?

" In Christianity, "saint" has a wide variety of meanings, depending on its usage and the denomination. The original Christian usage referred to any believer who is "in Christ" and in whom Christ dwells, whether in heaven or in earth.[3] In Orthodox and Catholic teachings, all Christians in heaven are considered to be saints, but some are considered to be worthy of higher honor, emulation, or veneration, with official church recognition given to some saints through canonization or glorification."

I remind you that christianity, church and the idea of sainthood started few hundred years after the supposed ascension of Jesus.
From the above, there could not have been dead saints at the time of Jesus' death or resurrection, unless of course, the christian saints had traveled back 400yrs in time to play zombie apocalypse for the Jesus passion drama.

Do you get the gist now, buddy?
This was obviously an error , an embarrasing error that the bible scripture forgers of 4th century AD did think very well about before writing it down.

malvisguy212: you guys don't believe in the bible, but you want answer ok.
Those saint are no difference from laZarus, yes there are christian saint, jesus spend 33years on his ministry, that is enough time to win soul, we even read in matthew when jesus send the 70 disciples, and paul say, "he[jesus] apper to 500 apostle of whom am the last of them all" Soo this is enough to called them saint.lazarus was raised from the dead, is he a zombie? No, the saint are no difference from lazarus.

after the death of christ the grave open and the dead saint rose up and walk the earth. Why? Because jesus has not yet resurrect, and bible say HE IS THE FIRSTBORN AMOUNG THE DEAD, what dos this mean? It mean he will be the first ascend to heaven, so the dead will walk the earth for 3days and be called christ-like, the question is why did they wait for 3days? To adopt the nature of Godliness in christ jesus.

I know, mr pleatton, this is hard for you to understand, but am 100% sure it is THE truth.

plaetton:

Yeah,it's very easy for me to understand that you don't understand anything, anything at all about the religion you profess.

OMG!
This one is for the record books.

This guy is saying, with cheerful eagerness, that there were christian saints during the time of Jesus.

What more can I say?
I give up.

@malvisguy,
You are the most confused christian i have had the displeasure of discussing with.
You don't understand your religion, you don't your bible, and yet you try to patch everything into an incoherent babble.

malvisguy212: you don't believe in spirit but you realy want to know,how can this be?have you here'd about the wandering soul? in the book of psalm,david ask"if the foundation of the world is faulty, what can the righteous do?" as of that time, they will do noting because christ has not died, but when christ died,everytin change.when bible say"HE IS THE FIRST BORN AMOUNG THE DEAD" ask your self, what's this suppose to mean?

plaetton:

WTF are you blabbing about?

You lost me on that one.

Do you try at all to make connections between what we are discussing and these incoherent outbursts?

malvisguy212: you ask the question"which saint rose from the dead?" I give you the psalm of david. Psalm11:3"if the foundation is faulty what can the righteous do?" we all know david was here on earth before jesus, for david to ask that question show that there are saint before the coming of christ, because if you are a righteous man, that make's you a saint. I even go further in tryin to explain to you why the saint did not ascend immediately to heaven, because jesus is the first born amoung the dead, he will be the first to ascend to heaven.the saint will get the opportunity to adopt the nature of God in christ jesus.

No need to further this discussion with you, because you do not believe in spirit.thank you for your time.

plaetton:

You still dont get it , do you?
This is the problem with cognitive dissonance, it blocks certain pathways to critical thinking.

The bible said that the earth opened up and the saints rose and walked, did it not?
That is clear enough in simple english. I do not need wuru wuru interpretations, sir.

Now, the point which you artfully dodged is still staring you in the face.

Which saints rose from the dead?
Where they christian Saints or Judaist Saints?

Do you know the meaning of saint?

" In Christianity, "saint" has a wide variety of meanings, depending on its usage and the denomination. The original Christian usage referred to any believer who is "in Christ" and in whom Christ dwells, whether in heaven or in earth.[3] In Orthodox and Catholic teachings, all Christians in heaven are considered to be saints, but some are considered to be worthy of higher honor, emulation, or veneration, with official church recognition given to some saints through canonization or glorification."

I remind you that christianity, church and the idea of sainthood started few hundred years after the supposed ascension of Jesus.
From the above, there could not have been dead saints at the time of Jesus' death or resurrection, unless of course, the christian saints had traveled back 400yrs in time to play zombie apocalypse for the Jesus passion drama.

Do you get the gist now, buddy?
This was obviously an error , an embarrasing error that the bible scripture forgers of 4th century AD did think very well about before writing it down.

texanomaly:


I don't get you.

plaetton:
@Alphpa

Don't forget the Zombie apocalypse that occurred immediately after Jesus crucifixion. The bible says that tombs opened and dead Saints() arose and walked the streets.
Lol.

The bible forgot to tell us what happened afterwards, like whether they went back into graves or whether they blended withe rest of humanity or even sired children. lol

The liars of the bible, however, forgot that there were[size=30pt]no dead saints at the time of Jesus[/size]. Christian Saints came about 400yrs later.
Evidence that the bible is no more than a collection old wive's tales.