reading a link posted in the "ugly britain" thread about how britons view their country and whether they will not leave for another country i was very disappointed and angry and i personally think the british are the most hypocritiical unfriendliest insincerest and evilest people i the world. why do they allow immigrants to come to their country at all ? I sense atime bomb ticking

http://www.thesun.co.uk/discussions/posts/list/If_you_had_the_cash_would_you_leave_England~63~-59290.page

OF CUSS. THE UK ECONOMY HAS FOR TIME IMMEMORIAL BEEN BASED AND SUPPORTED ON "HUMAN TRAFFICKING" . TAKE AWAY IMMIGRANTS AND THE ECONOMY WILL COLLAPSE LIKE A PACK OF CARDS , AS IS UNFOLDING B4 OUR EYES

Britain is ok, i live here and work here and have never experienced any racism. Don't believe everything u read.

dude,speak for yourself the english are the most inherently racist people, they are worse than americans because they ll laugh with you but stab you in the back look at the statistics and you ll realise how much they have held the minorities back

manmustwac:

Britain is ok, i live here and work here and have never experienced any racism. Don't believe everything u read.

You need your head examined, dude!

lucabrasi:

dude,speak for yourself the english are the most inherently racist people, they are worse than americans because they ll laugh with you but stab you in the back look at the statistics and you ll realise how much they have held the minorities back

You give me the link for the statistics. And haven't you ever heard of equal opportunities?

i_laugh:

You need your head examined, dude!

Well am sincerely talking from my own experience. Where u based by the way coz i know u aint based in England.

are you seriously asking for statistics?i don't blieve this,where dyu live in the uk?
lets start from the metropolitan police,out of two thousand plus metropolitan police in specialised dept or in special ops e.g weapons handling,flying helicopters e.t.c ONLY55 ARE FROM THE MINORITIES

of all chief constables IN THE WHOLE OF THE UNITED KINGDOM,ONLY ONE (KENT CONSTAB)IS BLACK

don't GO TOO FAR JUST GOOLE SECRET POLICEMAN and you ll see the stats where most police people (60% or so)have said that things are worse now for them than several years ago

how many black presenters are on british tv?apart fromlenny henry who is more of a joker making funny faces
how many black soap operas/tv series across all the brit tv?
name up to ten black and minorities anchor man/woman in the whole of brit tv?
how many black mps
how many blacks/ethnic minority in the house of lords
I'm being lazy thats why ill stop here,go check out these few assertions of mine and if thats not enough to convince you then ill get you some links later, don't make the mistake of thinking a typical english man/woman gives a hoot about you because you work/live together, they ll stab u in the back at the first opporunity
did you see both the reublican and democratic candidates falling over themselves in re assuring illegal immigrants of treating them right if they are voted in??compare it to the british crowing on and on about how much immigrants are stealing their jobs,so much that the word"immigrant "is an ugly word ppl rarely mention, dyu really see any british home office mp saying we need immigrants?or any pm and shadow pm saying so, i dont think so

Its funny how the British People complain about immigrants but want to leave and be immigrants in another country!!!

maybe yes

maybe no!!

lucabrasi:

are you seriously asking for statistics?i don't blieve this,where dyu live in the uk?
lets start from the metropolitan police,out of two thousand plus metropolitan police in specialised dept or in special ops e.g weapons handling,flying helicopters e.t.c ONLY55 ARE FROM THE MINORITIES

of all chief constables IN THE WHOLE OF THE UNITED KINGDOM,ONLY ONE (KENT CONSTAB)IS BLACK

don't GO TOO FAR JUST GOOLE SECRET POLICEMAN and you ll see the stats where most police people (60% or so)have said that things are worse now for them than several years ago

how many black presenters are on british tv?apart fromlenny henry who is more of a joker making funny faces
how many black soap operas/tv series across all the brit tv?
name up to ten black and minorities anchor man/woman in the whole of brit tv?
how many black mps
how many blacks/ethnic minority in the house of lords
I'm being lazy thats why ill stop here,go check out these few assertions of mine and if thats not enough to convince you then ill get you some links later, don't make the mistake of thinking a typical english man/woman gives a hoot about you because you work/live together, they ll stab u in the back at the first opporunity
did you see both the reublican and democratic candidates falling over themselves in re assuring illegal immigrants of treating them right if they are voted in??compare it to the british crowing on and on about how much immigrants are stealing their jobs,so much that the word"immigrant "is an ugly word people rarely mention, dyu really see any british home office mp saying we need immigrants?or any pm and shadow pm saying so, i don't think so

Black people are less than 2% of the UK population. Given that what sort of numbers do you think would be a good representative of the black population in the industries you mentioned above? And if you are so unhappy why don't you go back to Nigeria?

SeanT21:

Its funny how the British People complain about immigrants but want to leave and be immigrants in another country!!!

There is nothing funny or even new about it. If it wasn't for the British emigrating the United States, Australia, New Zealand and Canada would not even exist as they are today.

the british economy is built on the blood and sweat of immigrants. . . they recognise this that is why they dont just completely shut off their borders

immigrants do the jobs they r unwilling to do, and pay taxes to keep their lazy arses on benefits. . . thats why u never find minorities in positions of any real importance

immigrants r a necessary evil for them, that is why they r never really openly racist, they r nice enough to satisfy them so that they never loose their modern slaves

EloSela:

Black people are less than 2% of the UK population. Given that what sort of numbers do you think would be a good representative of the black population in the industries you mentioned above? And if you are so unhappy why don't you go back to Nigeria?

Lucabrasi are you gonna let her get away with this Karmamod where art thou I can't go it alone ^{okay I'm scared so what}

EloSela:

There is nothing funny or even new about it. If it wasn't for the British emigrating the United States, Australia, New Zealand and Canada would not even exist as they are today.

Okay, let's ask the Aborigines

@busybody
you r an esu leyin ibeji lol
@elosela
here you go again, well if you cared to notice the use of my words i said minorities/ethnic minoritiesnot just blacks and before i make any comments are you justifying the treatment of policemen/women of ethnic minorities in the met?ill advice you to google the secret policeman before making any further comments, as for going back to nigeria,dont worry in time i will and ill return the favour by giving you my own unsolicited advice,

as far as the ENGLISH who own the united kingdom are concerned,the only diffrence between me and you is the red passport, so that means as long as im legit in this country and you need my money now that your economy is in shambles ill choose when to go, i remember our last discourse when you were going on about how strong the uk economy is and how they dont need anything from foreign students,are self sufficient e.t.c
bet you r eating your words now and using tesco orange juice to swallow it, remember the united states need my money too so accord me the respect of a nigerian helping your economy from going as bad as estonia or yugoslavia or ill switch over to yankee and they ll welcome me with open arms

@Lucabrasi
Ethnic minorities (Asians and Blacks) in the UK make up less than 4% of the population so again I ask you; What types of numbers would satisfy you? You complain about the lack of TV presenters like there aren't any at all on British TV when we have quite a few e.g. June Sarpong, Trevor Macdonald, Mica Paris, Diane Louise Jordan, Moira Stewart, Josie D'arby, Isha Sesay, Femi Oke, Margherita Taylor, Trisha Goddard, Angellica Belle, the list is long. Then we have black MPs and politicians, Paul Boatang, David Lammy, Diane Abbott, Oona King, Baroness Valerie Amos Dawn Butler and more including the Nigerian immigrant who not too long ago became the Mayor of Dagenham. Again I ask, how many do you expect to see in a country with a small number of blacks like Britain? France only recently celebrated their first black TV presenter for prime time TV in 2006 and you are talking about Britain where the likes of  Sir Trevor Macdonald OBE and Moira Stewart etc. have been presenting for almost as long as black people had a significant presence in this country.

As for Britain's economy being in shambles; it is unbelievable how naive you can be. Is this the first time Britain has been through a recession? This is a country that has been around for thousands of years, being at the centre and has survived two world wars. Recession or not, The electricity will continue to be generated, people will not starve, You will never get a terraced house in London for less than a £150k, houses in West London will continue to remain some of the most expensive in the world, public transport in every city metro will continue to run, the major infrastructures will not fail and universities and schools will not go on strike. So continue to delude yourself into thinking that the measly £10,000 or so that you pay for your education is somehow running the country. lol. Stop wasting time and go to America, a country that came about by the British emigrating and stop talking foolishness  .

Also how many times do I have to tell you that I, unlike you, do not put too much weight on what white people think of me, a black woman born in Britain? The sooner you understand that the better. I know who I am and what I am entitled to as a British born citizen and yes I will call myself English too and you and the other white people can choke on that if irks you that much.

You may think it is just a red passport but then again that speaks volumes about your naivety. For instance red passports can go around the world a lot easier visa free than green ones.  Benefits to British citizenship are full rights and privileges for work, education, healthcare, state care and unrestricted movement across the European Union. A British national can also seek assistance and expect assistance from any UK embassy in the world which would of course come in handy if one were stranded in war zone for instance.  A British national can also work in any of these embassies around the world representing Britain. I can become an MP, Lord Mayor etc. I can not be deported from my birth land neither can my citizenship be revoked, if I were to commit a crime in a foreign land I will be deported to Britain not Nigeria like you would be . . these are basic things of course but you make it seem like such basics are out of reach for black Britons when that is far from the truth. You as a Nigerian national in the UK are not entitled to these things so how are we politically the same again?

@Poster

Don't read too much into that forum. Such views expressed on there are subjective and should be taken with a pinch of salt.

EloSela:


@Poster

Don't read too much into that forum. Such views expressed on there are subjective and should be taken with a pinch of salt.

fortunately/ unfortunately i have also lived in uk before and i can say the opinions fall in line . the british are still the most unreliable people to make friends with or do any good thing with in the world . you should change your national anthem to "foreigners go home" because that is what it has always been

Glite:

fortunately/ unfortunately i have also lived in uk before and i can say the opinions fall in line . the british are still the most unreliable people to make friends with or do any good thing with in the world . you should change your national anthem to "foreigners go home" because that is what it has always been

@Glite
As I said these are subjective views. Maybe foreigners should go home if they can't stand the heat.

lucabrasi:

are you seriously asking for statistics?i don't blieve this,where dyu live in the uk?
lets start from the metropolitan police,out of two thousand plus metropolitan police in specialised dept or in special ops e.g weapons handling,flying helicopters e.t.c ONLY55 ARE FROM THE MINORITIES

of all chief constables IN THE WHOLE OF THE UNITED KINGDOM,ONLY ONE (KENT CONSTAB)IS BLACK

don't GO TOO FAR JUST GOOLE SECRET POLICEMAN and you ll see the stats where most police people (60% or so)have said that things are worse now for them than several years ago

[b]how many black presenters are on british tv?apart fromlenny henry who is more of a joker making funny faces
how many black soap operas/tv series across all the brit tv?
name up to ten black and minorities anchor man/woman in the whole of brit tv?
how many black mps
how many blacks/ethnic minority in the house of lords[/b]I'm being lazy thats why ill stop here,go check out these few assertions of mine and if thats not enough to convince you then ill get you some links later, don't make the mistake of thinking a typical english man/woman gives a hoot about you because you work/live together, they ll stab u in the back at the first opporunity
did you see both the reublican and democratic candidates falling over themselves in re assuring illegal immigrants of treating them right if they are voted in??compare it to the british crowing on and on about how much immigrants are stealing their jobs,so much that the word"immigrant "is an ugly word people rarely mention, dyu really see any british home office mp saying we need immigrants?or any pm and shadow pm saying so, i don't think so

don't you just love hearing your own voice/.
have you considered the population of the uk with regards to history at all?
with previous report about the police you really think anyone is rushing to be in the police force
you make it seem ethnic minorities are prevented from joining the met
how many black MPs? how many black people in politics?
ethnic minorities arrived in the UK around the 50s and not necessarily to settle don or
assimilate but to work n return home
black lord? talking fraff as usual!! u think say them dey buy am?
there was a report out earlier this year- compared to the ethnic population in the uk
there is a considerable high number of ethnic minorities on tv
black soap opera chattin shyte again!!
lenny henry is a comedian not a presenter!

where in the world dont people complain about immigrants anyway, there are easy to blame!!!
which country in the world that has something to protect or plan for
would allow everyone to come in without adding anything to their economy to come in willy nilly
we've had lebanese in nigeria for many years now, how many of them have been elected/selected?
how many of them have their own 'shat' show?
there's a reason why we are implementng the local contect policy isnt there?
if we are so accommodating why dont we just let them hire even gateman,welders and drivers from poland
even though there are people searching for jobs?
ghana-must-go happened for a reason didnt it?!!!!!

EloSela:

@Glite
As I said these are subjective views. Maybe foreigners should go home if they can't stand the heat.

I read Blogs, News Articles and More which is where i draw my conclusion. The Brits hates Immigrants. They complain about immigrants having more rights than natural born British Citizens. Stop Being in Denial and speak the truth. We all know You Love Britain.

Besides, If Britain was so great Why are record numbers of Brits Leaving for other countries.

SeanT21:

I read Blogs, News Articles and More which is where i draw my conclusion. The Brits hates Immigrants. They complain about immigrants having more rights than natural born British Citizens. Stop Being in Denial and speak the truth. We all know You Love Britain.

Besides, If Britain was so great Why are record numbers of Brits Leaving for other countries.

I love Britain. It is where I was born and bred. Do you have an problem with that? 

If you want to take the words of a few blogs to conclusively decide that Britain hates immigrants then that is your own prerogative. Furthermore I believe you are in the USDo you think America would even exist as it is today without record numbers of Britons emigrating. Think before you speak on that.

@elosela
first off,ill respectfully disagree with your stats and the link below will tell you why as i dont want to dwell thatmuch on that point
http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=455


moreover try and distinguish and not muddle up these names you have mentioned,thankfully we all have tvs so i can tell you that
june sarpong has not done much tv compared to her white counterparts like holly willoughby and the other slim girl (former presenter of x factor)
micah paris as the hand bag of a white girl presenting the fashion makeover show

how many trevor macdonalds are there in the media industry?unless u r saying having just him equates the percentage of white english to other minorities,

trisha goddard and the guy presenting the cooking show on bbc daily @6.00pm weekdays are the only black faces on tv with long running programmes is not a reflection of the black/ethnic minorities in britain?

apart from dianne louise jordan how many black faces have you seen on songs of praise?not forgetting that being married to a white dude has its advantages

moira stewart is the first afro carribean newsreader on british television, doesnt that tell you anything??

josie d arby acted in some brit tv programmes and has gone into obscurity
isha sesay started in britain but works for cnn international, is that a british owned or run establishment??

same as femi oke who works in the united states now and for the past couple of years

do you notice one re current decimal with all the black media ppl you have mentioned and more?most of them are actually the first to break the barrier and even then are no more presenting on tv,most have re located abroad where there are better opportunities for a black/minority or into relative obscurity,how many new generation black faces can you mention appearing regularly on british media apart from the blue peter/cbbc other bbc programmes, remember rageh omar and darren somethn or the other are now in aljazera

seems you dont follow your own country's political affairs,paul boateng has been conviniently shiften to south africa because of his growing influence and popularity in british politics
dianne abbot represents a predominantly black/naija area of london unless im mistaken,i know for sure that oona king has been defeated wayy back by george galloway because she is a sell out, she supported the iraq war amongst many tony blair stance which was not popular with the people, sure says a lot about her doesnt it?

its really funny that of all the politicians you can mention,aprt from not representing the cross section of black and ethnic minorities in britain all have underlying reasons for their present situations,considering a public show of "ethnic integration"by the english,how come the number of politicians(and you have mentioned them all do not reflect the number of ethnic minorities,which was my first comment?

well its not the first time,but this recesion is way out worse than the previous recession, survived 2 world wars at what expense maybe you should go read up on what the british empire lost financially and how they have not recovered up untill now,the british economy is mortgaged to the hitlt to the americans who are supposed to be the former colony lol

electricity will continue to be run abi?you wait till russia under putin hears that,maybe you are equally too naive to realise that putin supplies uk with gas to power their electricity,no one knows what putin is planning for now,so rather than gloating ill advice you to pray like brown and his cabinet are doing that GOD will continue to soften his kgb heart,who says you wong get a terrace in london for less than 150,000 go to thamesmead and se empty houses going for less than that,go to toher areas of south east,essex,east london,camden you think you r talking to a johnny just come?
yes we know things are barely being held together but from the mouth of your fsa,chief exec of halifax subsidiaries,financial analysts e.t.c the worst is yet to come so save the mouth till 2o11 at least before you really know the extent of the damage, go and ask people who actually have billions in the economy like richard branson whose british banks could not come up with 1 bilion pounds and resorted to pleading with him,he said it himself that after meeting with his bankers he has concluded that the average inhabitant of britain are not being told the real situation of things,you dont know cause you dont have money in the system,but im sure the british government are proud of people like you just for your propaganda

r you sure you dont think much of what the whites think of you seeing as you raise your shackles anytime united kingdom/britain is criticised, if you ask me,im pretty sure you do as for calling yourself english well i guess im papy luwe and barack obama rolled into one abi
sorri i forgot im also brican(combo of american and british)and i hold the double coloured passport!yea!delusions,delusions,

you are totally right in your last paragraph and thats actually the sad situation in the united kingdom,while on paper you are told everyone has equal rights,at least the brits they in turn bring about demarcations and distinguish between supposedly equal citizens, remember my assertions that first time?
did you check the last form you filled in im guessing you ll tick the box, black ritish or british of afrrican descent, news flash the ENGLISH see you and others as second class "fortunate briticos" either you like it or not hence some of the measures to subtly remind you i .e forms filling,the glass ceiling and institutional racism, remind me again how many ENGLISH kids are stabbing and shooting each other in hackney,
how many ENGLISH KIDS are their youth programmes funds cut even if its working
how many ENGLISH kids experience negative stereotypes in most british tv programmes/series
i could go on and on, the politicians and presenters you v mentioned have only strenghtened and validated my original comments

@disguy
if you dont want to listen to my voice then simply google the secret policeman plus government/home office statistics and you will find these answers there,thank GOD unlike some of us black ppl,oyinbos dont lie or make up these kind of figures to favour them/their government
while afro carribeans migrated here in the 40s/50s the indians have been here for more than a century and there have been blacks here for as lond to up untill the time of the romans who settled in the uk, you need to go do some research man

whatever lenny henry is,the fact of the matter is that the amount of black and ethnic minority faces on tv is not proportionate to the population of ethnic minorities, you want prove switch on your tv and scroll up and down ,check the programmes and there you have it
i think you r suffering from the same sickness your new home office minister is suffering from"immigrant o phobia" still go n read the home office figures and you ll realise immigration has actually gone down from previous years,more and more foreigners both short and long stayers are going back to their countries in large numbers you can find keith besy's comment on (ias)website, just like the new home office minister went on the air criticising the rising number of immigrants and pledging to bring it down before he was corrected that its actually the opposite and he should stop talking out of his rear end!
as for the polish,lithuanians e.t.c flooding the united kingdom,surely you cant blame me and my fellow naijas for that will you?did we ask you to grossly underestimate the figures and not make adequate provisions?? or did we push you to join the european union or sign any treaty with them?so stop bleating here and go meet your mp

@Lucrabasi

As per usual instead of using this opportunity to convey some sense you have resorted to going on a mindless tangent.

You came in here and asked how many black TV presenters were present on black TV, asked how many black politicians there were and what not. I gave you a list of some and still you had the nerve to come back and belligerently slate what those people did.

For your information Moira Stuart was not the first black person on TV and so you need to check your facts before coming in here.

Did Isha Sesay start her career with CNN? The mere fact that she was educated trained and gained her world class experience from working at the BBC (the largest broadcaster in the world; CNN is no.2) and Sky news speaks volumes and puts to bed your point. Or do you think CNN employs amateurs?? Do you think CNN or any news broadcaster in the world would turn down someone with experience from working at the BBC?

Femi Oke has more or less the same CV as Isha. Born, trained and educated in Britain, Media experience gained at the BBC and ITV which allowed her to be in good standing to work for CNN where she has now moved on from. 

June Sarpong presented on channel 4 for nine long years and recently received an MBE for her work to media services just last year. Isn't that long enough?

There are a number of black news readers currently working at the BBC, Sky news and Channel 4 but of course I wouldn't expect the likes of you to watch the news on a regular basis given the amount of drivel you regularly come out with on NL.

You said that there were no Black MPs and I gave you a few. Whether these people are currently in position or not is not the issue here. The fact is you implied that there were none and I proved you wrong. These people were all elected members of parliament mind you and it doesn't matter if some like Diane Abbot are only representatives of areas where blacks are the majority. The fact remains that your previous outburst about black people in the UK was based on nothing but hot gas and ignorance.


And which 'Thamesmead' are terraced houses going for £150K? I am talking about real Victorian terraces. Dream on son.  .   .  !

Back to the point at hand, you asked how many,I gave you a list and asked how many would satisfy you given the small number of blacks  or would that be ethnic minorities in the UK. (whites are still over 90% of the populous going by the link you sent). You have constantly dodged the question and continued on a mindless bitter racist rant against the UK and black Britons.

You went on about the state of the British economy and now you are ranting about the national debt like the UK is the only country in the world that has one and about the KGB. . The fact that you can't seem to get it into your head that my citizenship and how I define myself is really none of your concern also baffles me. I have already asked you not to lose any sleep over my 'Englishness' yet your ameobo a$$ refuses to let it go. You really need to take a serious long break from NL and take whatever meds the Doctor prescribed before you type anything else on here because you really do sound demented.

EloSela:

I love Britain. It is where I was born and bred. Do you have an problem with that?

If you want to take the words of a few blogs to conclusively decide that Britain hates immigrants then that is your own prerogative. Furthermore I believe you are in the USDo you think America would even exist as it is today without record numbers of Britons emigrating. Think before you speak on that.

Girl, I did not say I had Problem with You Loving Your country. All I am saying is that The Brits always complain about immigrants. Why are U in denial?

What Point are U trying to make with the Brits immigrating to US statement. This is about Brits hating immigrants. How did USA get involve in this. No Country Likes Immigrants comming in and I understand The Brits Pain. Britain is a small Island with over 60 million and counting. I do not blame them for Complaining.I read a article on Times sometime this year explaining that the British People where Leaving Britain in record number. Their number one reason for leaving was over-population.

SeanT21:

Girl, I did not say I had Problem with You Loving Your country. All I am saying is that The Brits always complain about immigrants. Why are U in denial?

What Point are U trying to make with the Brits immigrating to US statement. This is about Brits hating immigrants. How did USA get involve in this. No Country Likes Immigrants comming in and I understand The Brits Pain. Britain is a small Island with over 60 million and counting. I do not blame them for Complaining.I read a article on Times sometime this year explaining that the British People where Leaving Britain in record number. Their number one reason for leaving was over-population.

You have never been to Britain let alone lived there yet you can already swear on your life from reading a few blogs that immigrants are hated by everyone in the UK. Yet you accuse me, someone who has lived here for most of their life of being in denial?

I brought up the USA because that is where you live and you wondered why the Brits emigrated so much to other countries. My point being Brits have always emigrated and that is how countries such as the one you live in and others came about; that they are emigrating today is nothing new or a sign of the times like many are making it out to be.

Check out the Americans in the UK forums to see how many Americans are trying to live in the UK. Is it a big deal? no. So why bring up the fact that Brits are emigrating like it is a new phenomenon??

http://www.americanexpats.co.uk/forum/index.php

EloSela:





You have never been to Britain let alone lived there yet you can already swear on your life from reading a few blogs that immigrants are hated by everyone in the UK. Yet you accuse me, someone who has lived here for most of their life of being in denial?

I brought up the USA because that is where you live and you wondered why the Brits emigrated so much to other countries. My point being Brits have always emigrated and that is how countries such as the one you live in and others came about; that they are emigrating today is nothing new or a sign of the times like many are making it out to be.

Check out the Americans in the UK forums to see how many Americans are trying to live in the UK. Is it a big deal? no. So why bring up the fact that Brits are emigrating like it is a new phenomenon??

http://www.americanexpats.co.uk/forum/index.php

The americans that are trying to Live in the UK see England from a Movie Point of view. They Think its some romantic land where there is no crime blah blah blah. I know Immigrants have always left the Uk but Now they are leaving in BIG numbers.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-477006/196-000-574-000-Record-numbers-leaving-Britain-new-life-abroad--immigration-UK-soars.html

more

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6210358.stm

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/emigration-boom-as-record-numbers-opt-to-live-abroad-462637.html

EloSela:

I love Britain. It is where I was born and bred. Do you have an problem with that?

If you want to take the words of a few blogs to conclusively decide that Britain hates immigrants then that is your own prerogative. Furthermore I believe you are in the USDo you think America would even exist as it is today without record numbers of Britons emigrating. Think before you speak on that.

there you go!

why do you put sapele in your profile?

And why are you in nairaland chat forum?

landis:

there you go!

why do you put sapele in your profile?

And why are you in nairaland chat forum?

hahaha

SeanT21:

The americans that are trying to Live in the UK see England from a Movie Point of view. They Think its some romantic land where there is no crime blah blah blah. I know Immigrants have always left the Uk but Now they are leaving in BIG numbers.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-477006/196-000-574-000-Record-numbers-leaving-Britain-new-life-abroad--immigration-UK-soars.html

more proof americans are as dumb as ever!!

_{da same americans shooting mexican immigrants over the border!}

@elosela
first off,i have refrained from verbal barbs and abusive language towards anybody on nland generally so i will gently and respectfully warn you to refrain from that anytime you want to respond to my comments, now I'm not doing so because i don't have adequate and proper responce for any single insult but because i don't want to derail the thread and wouldnt like to give myself that kind of reputation, if after this public warning you continue then I'm sorry all gloves are off thanks very much in advance

if you cared to read and understand my comments after going over the presenters and politicians you mentioned,i wrote that most of these people are not working either with bbc or featuring on british airwaves anymore,neither are any new black faces replacing them and you don't think thats a problem??
of course their achievements are laudable considering they were the trailblazers and must have worked twice as hard to get there for a typical english man/woman to consider them,i wouldnt want to go into the merits and demerits of bbc and how it trained these presenters because tha isnt my point, the point i made in my first comment which i have continued to stay on is that

the population of ethnic minorities in britain is not proportionate to the number of black and ethnic minority faces you see on british media,same as the metropolitan police e.tc you have given statistics which i have proven to be wrong with evidence and while you are right in saying that there are a number of media figuresfrom black/ethnic minority,the recurrent thing with most of the ones you mentioned and even the ones you didnt mention save  a very very minute few, most of them have since moved on to america,and the rest have relapsed into obscurity, as for the politicians i have said it as it is,its left for you to accept it or not but you can go ask people that follow british politics.

when did i say there were no black mps?lol lol  the fact still remains that BALCK AND ETHNIC MINORITIES ARE NOT BEING ADEQUATELY REPRESENTED!!there are 7.9million of them and you have mentioned less than 20 of a combo of politicians and presenters, il even add a further 20 for a margin of error is that enough representation for 7.smth million inhabitants??(phew, )
now a couple of links to break up and explode your arguments into smithereens,
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/britain-has-disgraceful-record-on-ethnicminority-candidates-526459.html

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2007/nov/06/immigrationpolicy.policy-your famous british welcomehttp://www.allacademic.com/meta/p_mla_apa_research_citation/0/2/1/1/7/p21170_index.html-, the heading is (BLACK AND BRITISH BUT DEFINITELY NOT ENGLISH;RACE AND RACISM IN BRITISH IMMIGRATION), make sure you check to make sure I'm not the author,

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/distorted-view-of-englishness-causes-racism--straw-707325.html-this is from jack straw, no less an individual than the former home secretary, I'm not related to him and he s repeating my assertions?WOW

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2006/apr/16/pressandpublishing.business1-now you really have to read this, interesting reading

http://www.ligali.org/review.php?id=27-now this is awesome pleasseeeee just read a few paragraphs of this

http://www.blackwell-compass.com/subject/sociology/article_view?article_id=soco_articles_bpl039-this covers racism of all sorts including islamophobia

sorry i was carried away, ill let you read all that from the english mouths acknowledging what black british say doesnt excist

now racism in british politics

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/apr/13/race.houseofcommons-one of the awesome mps you have been going on about and her views, enjoy!
http://www.newstatesman.com/199908020014-this is from a yellow paw paw original oyibo, so read up on that too

one more and I'm done honest,
http://www.thefword.org.uk/blog/2008/04/black_women_mps

now remind me again,what did you say about the media and politics in britain

you want a list of victorian properties under 150,000 pounds here you go
http://www.findaproperty.com/searchresults.aspx?edid=00&salerent=0&al=565956535635563856395642564556525641566256345654565656495636564756265663566456315660566156515658564056335644563056325637564356715646562756485667566556695650562556575655562856245670566656295668&vw=0&so=0&res=1&nosold=1&sp=1&p=20
thats just easdt london and outlying areas
this is south east london-http://www.findaproperty.com/searchresults.aspx?edid=00&salerent=0&al=716271607124715771317128712671587123713971297148712771257153716583167133712171197136714471377122713271307138712071347146713571477151715071527161716771557143716871427156714171637145714971597154716471407166
let me know if you want more,

on a last note I'm warning you to either ignore my comments or respond to it without insults, if you throw any verbal barb at me however little it might be I'm sorry i wont be this pleasant and my language wont be this clean

as for britain being all nice and lovey with immigrants

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/leading-british-institutions-gripped-by-racism-rows-439479.html

http://bnp.org.uk/tag/racism/

on british metropolitan police
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2003/apr/22/lawrence.ukcrime

http://blog.diverseethics.com/2008/09/racism-at-metropolitan-police.html
http://www.cipd.co.uk/news/_articles/london-mayor-launches-met-racism-inquiry.htm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/2965475.stm-from the bbc news(thank GOD english people don't lie to suit their purpose)

now who is ignorant and blowing hot air,
do the british like immigrants NO THEY DONT neither do they like any other colour but white or pink the most interesting link the heading?no mosque here

http://bnp.org.uk/index.php?s=black+british in this day and age when the bigger and better organised ku klux klan in the united states is on the decline the british white supremacy party are actually getting more councillors than they did last elections, wow

@Landis

So if I love Britain, I am not allowed to love Sapele?

@Sean2T

The articles you posted are nothing but sensationalism. As I said the Brits are natural nomads always looking for new pastures since the country is basically an Island but packed to capacity because everybody in the world wants to come here. The fact that people are still choca block outside of British embassies all over the world should tell you that it is still an attractive destination to many around the world. . . except for Nigerians of course

The fact that you are even mention that the Brits emigrate when you are today living in a country that came about by the very British you condemn started by emigration says loads about your ignorance. History has shown that the Brits generally don't emigrate to live of the countries that they emigrate to, in fact they build them. .

Why do you think there are plenty of US cities and towns named after British ones and other notable persons in British history? As well as the obvious ones like New England, New York and New Jersey there is also Reading in Pennsylvania, Isle of Wright counties in Virginia and Maryland, various towns and cities named after the British capital, London, Pittsburgh named after British prime minister William Pitt, Virginia named after the Virgin Queen Elizabeth of England, Pennsylvania named after Briton William Penn, Maryland named after Queen Mary, a number of places named after Hampton in England, Edinburgh in Virginia, Georgia after King George II of England and the states of North and South Carolinas, Carolina meaning rivers of Charles, Charles as in King Charles II of England, Scotland and Wales, Baltimore named after Lord Baltimore of Britain, Philadelphia named by William Penn among many others. In case it escaped you the first presidents of the US were all also of British descent.

Then in Canada the same thing more or less, places like Scarborough, London, Edmonton, British Columbia etc. I recently came back from Australia where their were loads of places like Kings Cross, West Dulwich, sydenham, Camberwell etc, the same in New Zealand. The Queen's head also adorns all of the coins in Canada, Australia and New Zealand just like they do in Britain because she is the Queen of those countries too . .so I ask again would these countries have existed as they are today if the British had not emigrated in record numbers? As I said before, why did you bring it up like it is something new? Americans are leaving their shores to for various places around Europe how comes you are not concerned about that?