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Re: My Take On Buhari’s 2015 Presidential Ambition - OAM4J by Nobody: 4:46pm On Oct 16, 2014
naijababe:


Buhari was asked to articulate his proposal in dealing with some of the issues you mentioned above, it seemed as if he didn't envisage those questions never mind have answers to them. GEJ is a disaster no doubt but I don't think Buhari will do any better. For those that believe strongly in his ability to deal with corruption, he has to deal with the NA and unfortunately for him, he no longer has a khaki and koboko to hand o.

We are caught between a rock and a hard place if GMB and GEJ are our only options sad
Please when are where was Buhari asked to articulate his proposal? Please provide a link. Thanks.

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Re: My Take On Buhari’s 2015 Presidential Ambition - OAM4J by Nobody: 4:47pm On Oct 16, 2014
Obiagelli:

let's not forget that buhari has a history of delegating responsibility, idiagbon was almost like a second president under Buhari. Buhari can pick a younger and vibrant VP (fashola) and it would be a win win for us in terms of administration.

In fact....Buhari administration was the only one referred to jointly with his deputy.....

The Buhari/Idiagbon government..shows you that the man delegates and a team player.

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Re: My Take On Buhari’s 2015 Presidential Ambition - OAM4J by Nobody: 4:48pm On Oct 16, 2014
Arch1:
According to you Buhari's henchmen made Gejs administration ungovernable yet Gej hasnt arrested and prosecuted anyone of them. Desnt that give credence to the fact president jonathan is weak and clueless.

The same GEJ that gave Hamzat Al-Mustapha; General Sanni Abacha's hitman a presidential pardon.

The same GEJ that withdrew the corruption charges against Mohammed Abacah, Generla Sani Abachas Son so that that the latter can contest in the Kano Gubernatotial election under PDP

The same GEJ that has a camaraderie with Ali Modu-Sheriff the founder of Mohammed Yusuf's Boko Haram
No! He is not weak nor clueless.


@bolded.
He was playing safe...trying to placate the hungry and angry lions surrounding him. He knew that they're capable of making things worst for this nation.

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Re: My Take On Buhari’s 2015 Presidential Ambition - OAM4J by Arch1: 4:51pm On Oct 16, 2014
waternogetenemy:
As usual, OP has reasoned from an ethnocentric perspective
How did the OP reason from an ethnic perspective?

The last time i checked, the OP is a Yoruba whose number one prefered candidate according to this thread of his is Oby Ezekwesili, an Igbo woman

The Op is an Ijebu man whose number two prefered candidate is Governor Ifashola, an Awori man.

The Op is a yoruba whose number three prefered candidate is Buhari a Fulani man.

So what is ethnocentric/tribal about his thread?

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Re: My Take On Buhari’s 2015 Presidential Ambition - OAM4J by Gbawe: 4:52pm On Oct 16, 2014
naijababe:


Give me a hug son and for the record I am personally not sold on the integrity 'ish'. As much as I cannot stand El-Rufai, I'd much rather have him as president than Buhari. Anyone who watched the debate of the 2011 elections between GMB, Ribadu and Shekarau and still wants Buhari as president needs his head examined.

Madam, you have to shun idealism and, for now, view issues pragmatically and realistically in eelation to want obtains today and what Nigeria must do to get back on track. Let us not fool ourselves. 2011 proved conclusively that Buhari is one of the very few leaders who can defeat GEJ who is a champion of corruption many will fight for and defend with their wealrh and sweat. I supported Ribadu in 2011 yet how well did he do? Should we gamble again, lose and get another 4 years of corruption-centred misrule because we want to be "forward thinking ", perhaps because we are in the educated and politically sophisticated minority, when the majority who will vote think very differently to me and you?

With Buhari we have the twin benefits of hosting a guaranteed vote-winner who will also shun corruption and , most importantly, empower the most talented to lead everywhere. It is not about wanting an Obama or Cameron-type President because that is what our world view of progress indicate to us personally. This is the mistake some of us made in 2011 and Nigeria suffered terribly for our elitist refusal to face the reality of our own people. It is about recognising the reality of Nigeria and working with that reality pragmatically till we can have a nation and electorate that will routinely embrace the Ribadus and Fasholas of the world for our top job. We are not at all at that level and must not fool ourselves that this is the case merely because a few of us would go out to vote an Utomi or EL-Rufai. This is the time to drop individual ego and think in terms of what is best for Nigeria and who the majority will embrace in what is now a desperate fight to rescue our nation from a corrupt and private jet-owning oligarchy.

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Re: My Take On Buhari’s 2015 Presidential Ambition - OAM4J by Nobody: 4:52pm On Oct 16, 2014
Obiagelli:

Please when are where was Buhari asked to articulate his proposal? Please provide a link. Thanks.

What link? If you did not watch the debate na you know Youtube may be able to come to your rescue sha. I watched both debates; GEJ shamelessly debating himself and Ribadu, Shekarau and Buhari after GEJ chickened out of the joint one. The clear winner that night was Shekarau if anyone remembers.

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Re: My Take On Buhari’s 2015 Presidential Ambition - OAM4J by ba7man(m): 4:52pm On Oct 16, 2014
"Ordinary stealing isn't corruption"........How daft do statements come

He came out in public to say this and I'm sure thieves cheered because the president understands them.

I'll vote for Buhari, he's not the best but anything to escape this current situation.

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Re: My Take On Buhari’s 2015 Presidential Ambition - OAM4J by ratiken(m): 4:53pm On Oct 16, 2014
Don't get it twisted, buhari can never be president of a united nigeria. Never.
Even if he wins d election which in itself is impossible.

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Re: My Take On Buhari’s 2015 Presidential Ambition - OAM4J by Nobody: 4:55pm On Oct 16, 2014
ilugunboy:


In fact....Buhari administration was the only one referred to jointly with his deputy.....

The Buhari/Idiagbon government..shows you that the man delegates and a team player.

grin grin grin grin Really?! You mean Idiagbon was simply not pushover and could not have been the usual dondu VP. Let me remind you that many people believe that if Idiagbon was in Nigeria, IBB's palace coup could and would not have succeeded.

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Re: My Take On Buhari’s 2015 Presidential Ambition - OAM4J by Arch1: 4:55pm On Oct 16, 2014
Anonimi is here with his sensless rants. The thread is about Buhari, Fashola and Oby Ezekwesili being the OP's prefered presidential candidates as against the mediocre Jonathan. Leave Tinubu out of your madness

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Re: My Take On Buhari’s 2015 Presidential Ambition - OAM4J by Nobody: 4:56pm On Oct 16, 2014
omerta:
Care to list and support with empirical evidence?
I don't need to do that. It's there for everyone to see. They threatened him publicly on many occasion...that's enough evidence itself.

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Re: My Take On Buhari’s 2015 Presidential Ambition - OAM4J by OAM4J: 4:57pm On Oct 16, 2014
naijababe:


Buhari was asked to articulate his proposal in dealing with some of the issues you mentioned above, it seemed as if he didn't envisage those questions never mind have answers to them. GEJ is a disaster no doubt but I don't think Buhari will do any better. For those that believe strongly in his ability to deal with corruption, he has to deal with the NA and unfortunately for him, he no longer has a khaki and koboko to hand o.

We are caught between a rock and a hard place if GMB and GEJ are our only options sad

We all know that Buhari is never an orator or an articulate person. But those qualities good as they are, are not the only criteria for dettermining a good leader

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Re: My Take On Buhari’s 2015 Presidential Ambition - OAM4J by CyberWolf: 4:58pm On Oct 16, 2014
Now I understand none of all this APC goons on NL knew what is happening,...I pity all of you guys...blind and gullible supporters...are you people aware that Tinubu has completed his juicy deal with GEJ?..I smh 4 u people..

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Re: My Take On Buhari’s 2015 Presidential Ambition - OAM4J by waternogetenemy: 4:58pm On Oct 16, 2014
OAM4J:


You want to talk about Nigerian politics without the realities of ethnic sentiments in 2015?

As much as I wish, this country is not yet United States of Nigerians


And what has ethnic sentiment achieved for us as one nigeria? Are we as Nigerians held hostage by our lingustic difference becos wen it comes to ethicity we are all Africans.

If we continue to allow people like urself that are not ready to embrace change take the lead then we will never attain the status of United States of Nigeria.

U have to understand that their are no quick fix to governance and development challenges.

U have to understand that power has no base, else Obama will not be President.

There are people in America that condemn Obama and say he is a failed President but America will never allow them take centre stage becos those people are identified as regressive.

what does having a man that ruled over ur parents rule over you say about the level of stagnation in our society.

First it was OBJ who ruled in the 1970s and now it is Buhari who ruled in the 1980s, then u complain of unemployment?

U seriously need to reassess ur priorities bro.

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Re: My Take On Buhari’s 2015 Presidential Ambition - OAM4J by Nobody: 4:59pm On Oct 16, 2014
Gbawe:


Madam, you have to shun idealism and, for now, view issues pragmatically and realistically in eelation to want obtains today and what Nigeria must do to get back on track. Let us not fool ourselves. 2011 proved conclusively that Buhari is one of the very few leaders who can defeat GEJ who is a champion of corruption many will fight for and defend with their wealrh and sweat. I supported Ribadu in 2011 yet how well did he do? Shouldewe gamble again trying to be "forward thinking ", perhaps because we are in the educated and politically sophisticated minority, when the majority who will vote think very differently to me and you?

With Buhari we have the twin benefits of hosting a guaranteed vote-winner who will also shun corruption and , most importantly, empower the most talented to lead everywhere. It is not about wanting an Obama or Cameron-type President because that is what our world view of progress indicate to us pereonally. This is the mistake some of us made in 2011. It is about recognisinf the reality of Nigeria and working with that realoty pragmatically till we can have a nation and electorate that will routonely embrace the Ribadus and Fasholas of the world routinely for our top job. We are not at all at that level and must not fool ourselves that this is the case merely because a few of us would go out to vote an Utomi or EL-Rufai. This is the time to drop individual ego and think in terms of what is best for Nigeria and who the majority will embrace in what id now a desperate fight to rescue our nation from a corrupt and private jet-owning oligarchy.

If you can tell me how Buhari intends to get past our ridiculously inept and corrupt law-makers I just might agree with you. He is no doubt a popular candidate and one capable of wresting votes from Goofluck, which is why my preference is for him to use his might to anoint a younger, more vibrant and articulate candidate

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Re: My Take On Buhari’s 2015 Presidential Ambition - OAM4J by egift(m): 4:59pm On Oct 16, 2014
Nobleval:
you forgot that his administration has been made ungovernable by Buhari's hench men.

^^^^
That is what PDP has been using to systematically hoodwink gullible Nigerians and distract them from the reality of massive looting going on.

If Buhari is sponsoring BH, why has Jonathan not arrested him? Or he is just clueless of his job description?

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Re: My Take On Buhari’s 2015 Presidential Ambition - OAM4J by Nobody: 5:00pm On Oct 16, 2014
naijababe:


grin grin grin grin Really?! You mean Idiagbon was simply not pushover and could not have been the usual dondu VP. Let me remind you that many people believe that if Idiagbon was in Nigeria, IBB's palace coup could and would not have succeeded.

If Buhari had wanted....as the C-I-C..he could have made the show all about himself and all for himself alone.

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Re: My Take On Buhari’s 2015 Presidential Ambition - OAM4J by Nobody: 5:00pm On Oct 16, 2014
ilugunboy:


In fact....Buhari administration was the only one referred to jointly with his deputy.....

The Buhari/Idiagbon government..shows you that the man delegates and a team player.
Exactly, i see a situation where his vice doubles as a minister or coordinating minister.

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Re: My Take On Buhari’s 2015 Presidential Ambition - OAM4J by brownlord: 5:02pm On Oct 16, 2014
OAM4J:


Let me end on a light note with something I observed here on Nairaland and other social media; anytime Buhari’s name is mentioned I see PDP supporters and Jonathanians suddenly become special consultants/advisers for the oppositions on how to choose the best presidential candidate. They will suggest 'better' candidates, analyse how Buhari is unelectable and how Buhari’s candidacy means easy passage for Jonathan. But IMO, I think they are afraid of Buhari. If they are sure Buhari is a walk-over for Jonathan, they will be encouraging the opposition to field him rather than advising them to choose another.

Thanks for reading.

OAM4J




DISCLAIMER:

I am not a member of any political party or agent of any politician. This write up is my personal opinion written for public criticisms and education for me and the readers.

As usual all insults will be ignored.

Brilliant write up until the bold part, not everyone who don't support Buhari is supporting Jonathan.

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Re: My Take On Buhari’s 2015 Presidential Ambition - OAM4J by Nobody: 5:03pm On Oct 16, 2014
For a man that believe price control is a progressive economic policy, i have nothing else to say but marvel.
If that man gets to aso-rock, then i wish Nigerians all the luck in the world.
Time will always validate or condemn our collective decisions.

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Re: My Take On Buhari’s 2015 Presidential Ambition - OAM4J by EdCure: 5:03pm On Oct 16, 2014
alaoeri:
Sai Buhari come 2015 Aso rock straight, Jonathan Otuoke straight.
We will see to that. Sending Jonathan back to Otuoke

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Re: My Take On Buhari’s 2015 Presidential Ambition - OAM4J by Nobody: 5:03pm On Oct 16, 2014
Nobleval:
No! He is not weak nor clueless.


@bolded.
He was playing safe...trying to placate the hungry and angry lions surrounding him. He knew that they're capable of making things worst for this nation.
At the expense of the ordinary Nigerian? Gej is a bad leader, a corrupt one at that. There is nothing good about him other than his name. A man who refuse to declare his assets publicly is a thief.

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Re: My Take On Buhari’s 2015 Presidential Ambition - OAM4J by egift(m): 5:04pm On Oct 16, 2014
Nobleval:
@bolded.
He was playing safe...trying to placate the hungry and angry lions surrounding him. He knew that they're capable of making things worst for this nation.

What does the bold mean? Jonathan worst enemies are those that try defending him. How can you describe President Jonathan as an earthworm in the mist of Lions and believe you are defending him?

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Re: My Take On Buhari’s 2015 Presidential Ambition - OAM4J by Nobody: 5:04pm On Oct 16, 2014
ilugunboy:


If Buhari had wanted....as the C-I-C..he could have made the show all about himself and all for himself alone.

He could not have given the kind of person Tunde Idiagbon was. Buhari is a popular candidate no doubt, no need rewriting history.

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Re: My Take On Buhari’s 2015 Presidential Ambition - OAM4J by egift(m): 5:06pm On Oct 16, 2014
brownlord:
Brilliant write up until the bold part, not everyone who don't support Buhari is supporting Jonathan.

But he clearly stated "Jonathaians" there. Read the bold again.

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Re: My Take On Buhari’s 2015 Presidential Ambition - OAM4J by Nobody: 5:06pm On Oct 16, 2014
OAM4J:


We all know that Buhari is never an orator or an articulate person. But those qualities good as they are, are not the only criteria for dettermining a good leader

I am sorry bro, anyone who is unable to articulate his ideas in an interview does not deserve a job he is applying for.

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Re: My Take On Buhari’s 2015 Presidential Ambition - OAM4J by Nobody: 5:07pm On Oct 16, 2014
OAM4J:


We all know that Buhari is never an orator or an articulate person. But those qualities good as they are are not the only criteria for dettermining a good leader
Yet GEJ was vilified by many on this thread on his lack of oratory as a sign of a bad leader.
I believe we should be honest enough to apply the same yardstick across board.

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Re: My Take On Buhari’s 2015 Presidential Ambition - OAM4J by anonimi: 5:09pm On Oct 16, 2014
naijababe:


Buhari was asked to articulate his proposal in dealing with some of the issues you mentioned above, it seemed as if he didn't envisage those questions never mind have answers to them. GEJ is a disaster no doubt but I don't think Buhari will do any better. For those that believe strongly in his ability to deal with corruption, he has to deal with the NA and unfortunately for him, he no longer has a khaki and koboko to hand o.

We are caught between a rock and a hard place if GMB and GEJ are our only options sad

GEJ is a disaster only to the extent that he is not a good orator. That much I can readily admit.
As far as performance is concerned he is better than all previous presidents in our recent history and the state governors of the so-called opposition trying to replace him at the centre.

His SYSTEMATIC approach rather than Ad-Hoc, media-friendly-but-yielding-little-results attack on corruption has yielded greater results in the federal administration's delivery of infrastructure that were hitherto budgeted for annually but never done.

Moreover our legislators are constitutionally empowered to investigate and impeach the president, state governor and (I believe) even the LGA chairman just as the US Congress impeached Bill Clinton. For those who may not be aware, our 1999 constitution is almost a carbon copy of the American constitution. Below is an excerpt on Clinton's impeachment by the US House of Representatives =>


Independent counsel investigation

The charges arose from an investigation by Independent Counsel Ken Starr. Originally dealing with the failed land deal years earlier known as Whitewater, Starr, with the approval of United States Attorney General Janet Reno, conducted a wide ranging investigation of alleged abuses including the firing of White House travel agents, the alleged misuse of FBI files, and Bill Clinton's conduct during the sexual harassment lawsuit filed by a former Arkansas government employee, Paula Jones. In the course of the investigation, Linda Tripp provided Starr with taped phone conversations in which Monica Lewinsky, a former White House Intern, discussed having MouthAction with Clinton. At the deposition, the judge rejected the plaintiff's lawyer's definition of the term "sexual relations" that Clinton claims to have construed to mean only vaginal intercourse. Judge Wright then told the attorney's they could be as explicit as necessary in asking their questions. They chose to ask only if he had sex with Monica Lewinsky, thus making his testimony that he had not done so honest.

A much-quoted statement from Clinton's grand jury testimony showed him questioning the precise use of the word "is." Contending that his statement that "there's nothing going on between us" had been truthful because he had no ongoing relationship with Lewinsky at the time he was questioned, Clinton said, "It depends upon what the meaning of the word 'is' is. If the—if he—if 'is' means is and never has been, that is not—that is one thing. If it means there is none, that was a completely true statement". Starr obtained further evidence of inappropriate behavior by seizing the computer hard drive and email records of Monica Lewinsky. Based on his conflicting testimony, Starr concluded that Clinton had committed perjury. Starr submitted his findings to Congress in a lengthy document (the so-called Starr Report), and simultaneously posted the report on the internet, replete with lurid descriptions of encounters between Clinton and Lewinsky. Starr was criticized by Democrats for spending $70 million on an investigation that substantiated only perjury and obstruction of justice. Critics of Starr also contend that his investigation was highly politicized because it regularly leaked tidbits of information to the press, in violation of legal ethics, and because his report included lengthy descriptions which were humiliating yet irrelevant to the legal case.

More from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_of_Bill_Clinton


More importantly our democratic space has grown significantly under his leadership with greater INDEPENDENCE of the other arms (legislative & judiciary) of the federal government as well as the other tiers (states & LGA).

The big question we should ask ourselves as citizens of this potentially great country is how have we used the expanding democratic space to make our elected public servants more responsive to our legitimate needs.

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Re: My Take On Buhari’s 2015 Presidential Ambition - OAM4J by OAM4J: 5:11pm On Oct 16, 2014
brownlord:


Brilliant write up until the bold part, not everyone who don't support Buhari is supporting Jonathan.

I NEVER made that assertion sir. I know much better than insinuate that. Please read what you quoted again.

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Re: My Take On Buhari’s 2015 Presidential Ambition - OAM4J by Arch1: 5:11pm On Oct 16, 2014
Okay people, right now i am presently high on skunk-weed and two bottles of shepe cheesycheesy but sincerely without mincing words and writing from the influence of alcohol, i'l rather vote for a STONE than goodluck jonathan

president goodluck ebele 'azikiwe' jonathan is a failure !!!

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Re: My Take On Buhari’s 2015 Presidential Ambition - OAM4J by waternogetenemy: 5:12pm On Oct 16, 2014
Can we ever have a situation in America whereby Gerge W Bush senior returns to contest for Presidency?

Can we have a situation in Britain that Tony Blair will return to contest for Presidency?

Can we have a situation in South Africa when Thabo Mbeki will return to contest for Presidency?

Can we have a situation in Ghana where Jerry Rawlings wil return to contest for Presidency?

Only in Nigeria do we have grannies running for president as former president.

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Re: My Take On Buhari’s 2015 Presidential Ambition - OAM4J by OAM4J: 5:13pm On Oct 16, 2014
naijababe:


I am sorry bro, anyone who is unable to articulate his ideas in an interview does not deserve a job he is applying for.

I have met many brilliant 1st class materials who cannot brilliantly express themselves in English but very good at what they do.

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