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Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Gombs(m): 1:32pm On Oct 20, 2014
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Stories certainly for the gods. Tell Gnoni, drumb and their pals this rubbish already. #Hypocrisy.

legendary hypocrisy i tell ya!
Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Gombs(m): 1:33pm On Oct 20, 2014
pickabeau1:
following... read the 3 chapters already

waiting for d next batch

Exhilarating, right? smiley smiley
Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by pickabeau1: 2:06pm On Oct 20, 2014
Gombs:


Exhilarating, right? smiley smiley

Well.. hes still trying to set up the foundation that God does not hate prosperity
Lets see what the later chapters hold

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Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Gombs(m): 2:59pm On Oct 20, 2014
pickabeau1:


Well.. hes still trying to set up the foundation that God does not hate prosperity
Lets see what the later chapters hold

You'd so love it...i am stll ruminating on chapter 2! grin

Kenny4yfe and Lambanopeace... una fit borrow me space? or, maybe i'd skip some chapters... Meeehn, God bless Hagin!
Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by pickabeau1: 3:03pm On Oct 20, 2014
If the intro about the legend of Midas is a metaphor, he is advocating balance in material things
So his first chapters are just saying hey.. nothing wrong with prosperity.. what i expect is now how can one ensure he does not lose focus


He is advoc
Gombs:


You'd so love it...i am stll ruminating on chapter 2! grin

Kenny4yfe and Lambanopeace... una fit borrow me space? or, maybe i'd skip some chapters... Meeehn, God bless Hagin!
Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Gombs(m): 3:07pm On Oct 20, 2014
pickabeau1:
If the intro about the legend of Midas is a metaphor, he is advocating balance in material things
So his first chapters are just saying hey.. nothing wrong with prosperity.. what i expect is now how can one ensure he does not lose focus


He is advoc

what's advoc? cheesy

i can assure you, he didn't loose focus
Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by BabaGnoni: 3:12pm On Oct 20, 2014
Gombs:


You'd so love it...i am stll ruminating on chapter 2! grin

Kenny4yfe and Lambanopeace... una fit borrow me space? or, maybe i'd skip some chapters...
Meeehn, God bless Hagin!

You don't even know the half of it. If you only knew...
If you only knew the half, then this "Meeehn..." opinion about the book and the whole matter would probably be different.
Like shdemidemi, I too, "I go dey looku and dey laffu-baba70"

PS: Hint "monkey dey work, baboon dey chop"

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Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Gombs(m): 3:34pm On Oct 20, 2014
BabaGnoni:


You don't even know the half of it. If you only knew...
If you only knew the half, then this "Meeehn..." opinion about the book and the whole matter would probably be different.
Like shdemidemi, I too, "I go dey looku and dey laffu-baba70"

PS: Hint "monkey dey work, baboon dey chop"

If you are not going to discuss the book, you better keep shut, keep looking and laughing. I checked alexa.com, and the download site has got some traffic. It moved up almost 650, 000 places. shocked cool shocked I guess folks are downloading. cheesy wink You and your band do not like the book, because it encourages giving (wonder why you lot hates the idea of giving in church...ah! Folks should take to the poor only shey?) and what pains you all is that he mentioned tithing and he did not encourage ministers of the gospel to be uncared for, nor was he against their prosperity.

You lot find all his backing in the Bible, yet, you must hate. If he hadn't mentioned the above, you lot would use sentences like...it's better imagined sef. Now he did, and the new story is that he was afraid after Bakker was released, hence he wrote the book....bla bla bla.

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Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Candour(m): 3:43pm On Oct 20, 2014
Gombs:


If you are not going to discuss the book, you better keep shut, keep looking and laughing. I checked alexa.com, and the download site has got some traffic. I guess folks are downloading. You and your band do not like the book, because it encourages giving (wonder why you lot hates the idea of giving in church...ah! Folks should take to the poor only shey?) and what pains you all is that he mentioned tithing and he did not encourage ministers of the gospel to be uncared for, nor was he against their prosperity. You lot find all his backing in the Bible, yet, you must hate. If he hadn't, you lot would use sentences like...it's better imagined sef. Now, the new story is that he was afraid after Bakker was released, hence he wrote the book....bla bla bla.


Gombs my friend, its very obvious you've not read that book to the end. If you have, I doubt you'll be so optimistic and this fired up.

Pls don't skip any chapter o. Like pickabeau1 said up there, the book tries to balance itself. The first chapters 'seem' to help your case but the end isn't as friendly. The intro about King Midas is an idea of what the book is about.

Any Christian who discourages giving in a gathering of the body of Christ is wicked and doesn't know God. This should answer your accusation about folks who are against giving to God

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Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by pickabeau1: 3:46pm On Oct 20, 2014
Gombs:


what's advoc? cheesy

i can assure you, he didn't loose focus

i meant advocating..i did not delete the initial typing
Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by BabaGnoni: 3:54pm On Oct 20, 2014
Gombs:


If you are not going to discuss the book, you better keep shut, keep looking and laughing. I checked alexa.com, and the download site has got some traffic. It moved up almost 650, 000 places. shocked cool shocked I guess folks are downloading. cheesy wink
You and your band do not like the book, because it encourages giving (wonder why you lot hates the idea of giving in church...ah!
Folks should take to the poor only shey?) and what pains you all is that he mentioned tithing and he did not encourage ministers of the gospel to be uncared for, nor was he against their prosperity.

You lot find all his backing in the Bible, yet, you must hate.
If he hadn't mentioned the above, you lot would use sentences like...it's better imagined sef.
Now he did, and the new story is that he was afraid after Bakker was released, hence he wrote the book....bla bla bla.


BabaGnoni:

The book and the site no doubt reveals some of the gimmicks, fakeries, absurdities, scams, etcetera used in the WoF industry
but the way the guy is persistently waving "Baba's" book into view (i.e. subtle suggestive advertising) and the pimping, makes it look like they are all birds of the same feather
Since "Baba" has passed on, it's no surprise some will be snapping on the heels of the Kenneth Copeland, out of wanting a piece of the WoF empire cake "Baba" left behind which Kenneth Copeland seemingly inherited.

https://www.nairaland.com/1939255/bankruptcy-prosperity-gospel-exercise-biblical/7#27276554

Easy tiger, I don't think you'll be able to quote anyone not liking the book or find anyone not liking the book
Let me help out here....
What some are doubting is the genuineness, the sincerety, the truthfulness - the real reason for doing the book
Why didn't he rubbish or condemn his misleading books such as "You Can Have What You Say!" or "How to Write Your Own Ticket With God" etcetera
Some are saying that something smells iffy, just doesn't add up and that it is damage limitation, hence the glaring out-of-character nature of the book

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Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Gombs(m): 3:55pm On Oct 20, 2014
Candour:


Gombs my friend, its very obvious you've not read that book to the end. If you have, I doubt you'll be so optimistic and this fired up.

Pls don't skip any chapter o. Like pickabeau1 said up there, the book tries to balance itself. The first chapters 'seem' to help your case but the end isn't as friendly. The intro about King Midas is an idea of what the book is about.

Any Christian who discourages giving in a gathering of the body of Christ is wicked and doesn't know God. This should answer your accusation about folks who are against giving to God

My man, I have read the book, not to the end, but it keeps getting better. Can't wait to reach the end. In fact, I have endorsed the book, recommending it. I have no regrets.

God bless you for the above bold. Always knew you Are different even in the midst of our differences wink

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Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Candour(m): 3:55pm On Oct 20, 2014
In fact, see one part on page 172. I wonder if Hagin copied this from shdemidemi or vice versa. See the portion in bold

"The Old Testament was all the Bible there was for centuries. It was the Bible Jesus quoted from in His ministry. The Old Testament is valuable to me because it teaches me about God, the early history of the world, and how God dealt with His chosen people, the Jews. It contains the Law and the Prophets, the Psalms and Proverbs. I appreciate the Old Testament and benefit from it, but it was not written to me"

I wonder how many times shdemidemi has been crucified for saying the part in bold wink

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Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by BabaGnoni: 4:01pm On Oct 20, 2014
Candour:
In fact, see one part on page 172.
I wonder if Hagin copied this from shdemidemi or vice versa. See the portion in bold

"The Old Testament was all the Bible there was for centuries. It was the Bible Jesus quoted from in His ministry. The Old Testament is valuable to me because it teaches me about God, the early history of the world, and how God dealt with His chosen people, the Jews. It contains the Law and the Prophets, the Psalms and Proverbs. I appreciate the Old Testament and benefit from it, but it was not written to me"

I wonder how many times shdemidemi has been crucified for saying the part in bold wink

This is where "monkey dey work, baboon dey chop" comes into play Bro... grin
but we all good and why we all " dey looku and dey laffu-baba70"
Am outta ere...

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Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Gombs(m): 4:03pm On Oct 20, 2014
BabaGnoni:




Easy tiger, I don't think you'll be able to quote anyone not liking the book or find anyone not liking the book
Let me help out here....
What some are doubting is the genuineness, the sincerety, the truthfulness - the real reason for doing the book
Why didn't he rubbish or condemn his misleading books such as "You Can Have What You Say!" or "How to Write Your Own Ticket With God" etcetera
Some are saying that something smells iffy, just doesn't add up and that it is damage limitation, hence the glaring out-of-character nature of the book


You guys always have doubts even where there is no reason to. Keep looking for motive
Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by pickabeau1: 4:04pm On Oct 20, 2014
please let us know when u upload the remaining chapters
Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by BabaGnoni: 4:05pm On Oct 20, 2014
Gombs:

You guys always have doubts even where there is no reason to. Keep looking for motive

You don't know "mor-mor"...
Enjoy your 15 mins of fame with it
and don't worrry, you'll soon find out

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Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Gombs(m): 4:10pm On Oct 20, 2014
Candour:
In fact, see one part on page 172. I wonder if Hagin copied this from shdemidemi or vice versa. See the portion in bold

"The Old Testament was all the Bible there was for centuries. It was the Bible Jesus quoted from in His ministry. The Old Testament is valuable to me because it teaches me about God, the early history of the world, and how God dealt with His chosen people, the Jews. It contains the Law and the Prophets, the Psalms and Proverbs. I appreciate the Old Testament and benefit from it, but it was not written to me"

I wonder how many times shdemidemi has been crucified for saying the part in bold wink

Boss chill, I'd get to that place. I benefit from the OT too Romans 15:4, but it was not written to me, the NT was written to the New creation under the new covenant. Now, let's not derail. cheesy

Shedemidemi crucified for saying that? Pull out a thread as proof please. I need see what he wrote
Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Candour(m): 4:11pm On Oct 20, 2014
Gombs:


My man, I have read the book, not to the end, but it keeps getting better. Can't wait to reach the end. In fact, I have endorsed the book, recommending it. I have no regrets.

Its all good then


God bless you for the above bold. Always knew you Are different even in the midst of our differences wink

You misunderstand plenty of my friends. I don't know any of them that preaches against giving to the body of Christ. The issue has always been about scaring, cajoling, threatening and manipulating people into giving by invoking scripture especially the old testament which Hagin confidently says ".....wasn't written to me"

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Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Gombs(m): 4:12pm On Oct 20, 2014
pickabeau1:
please let us know when u upload the remaining chapters

Sure will ma'am. 5pm GMT+1

Cheers
Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Candour(m): 4:15pm On Oct 20, 2014
Gombs:


Boss chill, I'd get to that place. I benefit from the OT too Romans 15:4, but it was not written to me, the NT was written to the New creation under the new covenant. Now, let's not derail. cheesy

Shedemidemi crucified for saying that? Pull out a thread as proof please. I need see what he wrote

I won't pull out any thread if you can't remember but have you see any thread where he's accused of lawlessness? Or trying to tear out the old testament? Or saying for the christian today, our manual is the epistles, particularly that of Paul?

Let's not derail your thread further
Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Image123(m): 4:39pm On Oct 20, 2014
Candour:


"The Old Testament was all the Bible there was for centuries. It was the Bible Jesus quoted from in His ministry. The Old Testament is valuable to me because it teaches me about God, the early history of the world, and how God dealt with His chosen people, the Jews. It contains the Law and the Prophets, the Psalms and Proverbs. I appreciate the Old Testament and benefit from it, but it was not written to me"

I wonder how many times shdemidemi has been crucified for saying the part in bold wink

Anyone that listens to Hagin knows that he sayS this often. It didn't mistakenly drop, neither is it a correction made before dying. He quotes the new testament off hand for a large part, and he usually describes how his new testament portion of his bible is more worn, and how they are the letters written to him. Nothing new or shocking.
demisquare on the other hand will eternally make excuses about how Hebrews is not for him, how Romans was written to Jews in Rome and similar balderdash.

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Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by pickabeau1: 4:42pm On Oct 20, 2014
Gombs:


Sure will ma'am. 5pm GMT+1

Cheers

bro..im no maam
Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Gombs(m): 4:51pm On Oct 20, 2014
Candour:


Its all good then




You misunderstand plenty of my friends. I don't know any of them that preaches against giving to the body of Christ. The issue has always been about scaring, cajoling, threatening and manipulating people into giving by invoking scripture especially the old testament which Hagin confidently says ".....wasn't written to me"

I hope I have! Anyway, let's stick to the book! ...For now
Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Gombs(m): 4:51pm On Oct 20, 2014
pickabeau1:


bro..im no maam

Aii bro!
Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by nlMediator: 4:58pm On Oct 20, 2014
Gombs:

Sharaaap already! Quit trolling and start making sense.
your writing is as terrible as any could be, then the senseless write ups makes it the more nauseous. If Hagin was afraid the American followers...Dammit! i can't even make sense from the above underlined. undecided
Bakker left jail 1996, Hagin released a book around 2000, the American Government agency against fraud must have been blind all those years to Hagin's 68years as a minister and never found him wanting. Yet a bitter Austrian lady in her thirties, who has access to only wikipedia and nairaland thinks Hagin was afraid, hence he wrote a book to do what exactly?
Nora , bitte nutzen Sie die Sprache können Sie schreiben in , müssen Sie nicht das Lesen schwierig für mich. dank

@ Op: Good job.

It is outright nonsense to bring Jim Bakker into this discussion.

1. Jim Bakker is not part of WOF. I know some people around here out of ignorance or mischief link Bakker with WOF. It makes it difficult to have an intelligent discussion when people don't even know the basics of what they're discussing. Instead, they're busy hi-fiving themselves when they're writing erroneous stuff.

2. It is preposterous to assume that Hagin read Jim Bakker's book. A more reasonable assumption is that he did not even know of the book. In my WOF church in 1999, the pastor never mentioned Bakker, to my recollection. I don't know any WOF rank and file members that care about what Bakker says or read his materials. Yet, he influenced Hagin! What a joke.


3. Even though Hagin's book came out in 2000, the teachings in that book did not start that year. And the things he preached against are things he knew about and did not endorse all these while. Puttingit in the book, at great risk that his disciples would desert him derves commendation, not condemnation.

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Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by nlMediator: 5:01pm On Oct 20, 2014
Candour:
In fact, see one part on page 172. I wonder if Hagin copied this from shdemidemi or vice versa. See the portion in bold

"The Old Testament was all the Bible there was for centuries. It was the Bible Jesus quoted from in His ministry. The Old Testament is valuable to me because it teaches me about God, the early history of the world, and how God dealt with His chosen people, the Jews. It contains the Law and the Prophets, the Psalms and Proverbs. I appreciate the Old Testament and benefit from it, but it was not written to me"

I wonder how many times shdemidemi has been crucified for saying the part in bold wink

That has been the cornerstone of Hagin's and Kenyon's ministry - even before anybody on this thread was born! I can quote from several of his books - way before Midas Touch - where he says that our emphasis is on the NT. In fact, he and especially Kenyon are so Pauline you'd think some of our friends here are his disciples.

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Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Candour(m): 5:08pm On Oct 20, 2014
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Anyone that listens to Hagin knows that he sayS this often. It didn't mistakenly drop, neither is it a correction made before dying. He quotes the new testament off hand for a large part, and he usually describes how his new testament portion of his bible is more worn, and how they are the letters written to him. Nothing new or shocking.
demisquare on the other hand will eternally make excuses about how Hebrews is not for him, how Romans was written to Jews in Rome and similar balderdash.

@the bolded, Why do you think everything is a contest? Is there any chance that Shdemidemi who must have been very young in 2000 (residing most likely in Nigeria or UK) influenced Hagins thoughts in a book he wrote that year (in the USA)? Can't you identify a tongue in cheek statement?

I don't want to derail this thread but I need to correct this impression. See the verse below

Romans 1:7 KJV
To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.


Considering the way shdemidemi utilises Romans in teaching about grace, I will say you'll find it difficult to point put a thread where he said Romans was written to Jews.

Also is Hagins statement "I appreciate the Old Testament and benefit from it, but it was not written to me". the belief you've always employed when discussing and arguing with me and others?

Pls I don't want to further derail this thread

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Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Gombs(m): 5:08pm On Oct 20, 2014
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Anyone that listens to Hagin knows that he sayS this often. It didn't mistakenly drop, neither is it a correction made before dying. He quotes the new testament off hand for a large part, and he usually describes how his new testament portion of his bible is more worn, and how they are the letters written to him. Nothing new or shocking.
demisquare on the other hand will eternally make excuses about how Hebrews is not for him, how Romans was written to Jews in Rome and similar balderdash.

Exactly grin grin
Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Candour(m): 5:12pm On Oct 20, 2014
nlMediator:


That has been the cornerstone of Hagin's and Kenyon's ministry - even before anybody on this thread was born! I can quote from several of his books - way before Midas Touch - where he says that our emphasis is on the NT. In fact, he and especially Kenyon are so Pauline you'd think some of our friends here are his disciples.

My brother, welcome back from the long absence.

Indeed I'm glad its the way he approached the bible. If that's how our pastors in Nigeria did approach the scriptures, we wouldn't be having 80% of the arguments we are currently having.

Some folks who say something similar like Hagin are accused of abandoning the old testament.
Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Gombs(m): 5:14pm On Oct 20, 2014
nlMediator:


@ Op: Good job.

It is outright nonsense to bring Jim Bakker into this discussion.

1. Jim Bakker is not part of WOF. I know some people around here out of ignorance or mischief link Bakker with WOF. It makes it difficult to have an intelligent discussion when people don't even know the basics of what they're discussing. Instead, they're busy hi-fiving themselves when they're writing erroneous stuff.

2. It is preposterous to assume that Hagin read Jim Bakker's book. A more reasonable assumption is that he did not even know of the book. In my WOF church in 1999, the pastor never mentioned Bakker, to my recollection. I don't know any WOF rank and file members that care about what Bakker says or read his materials. Yet, he influenced Hagin! What a joke.


3. Even though Hagin's book came out in 2000, the teachings in that book did not start that year. And the things he preached against are things he knew about and did not endorse all these while. Puttingit in the book, at great risk that his disciples would desert him derves commendation, not condemnation.

Don't mind Nora and her frequent delusions. Thanks for bringing the tesimony of the real thing as caleb and Joshua, hence invalidating the claims of the 10spies

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Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Gombs(m): 5:17pm On Oct 20, 2014
nlMediator:


That has been the cornerstone of Hagin's and Kenyon's ministry - even before anybody on this thread was born! I can quote from several of his books - way before Midas Touch - where he says that our emphasis is on the NT. In fact, he and especially Kenyon are so Pauline you'd think some of our friends here are his disciples.

Thanks for the input...where on earth have you been all the while? undecided

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