http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2799385/glimpses-life-brain-surgeon-told-saw-heaven-coma-today-reveals-stories-say-ve-similar-life-changing-experiences.html

Neurosurgeon Dr Eben Alexander was convinced out-of-body experiences were hallucinations — until he went into a coma himself and had what he now believes was a glimpse of heaven.

Do you have to get into a coma before you believe?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2799385/glimpses-life-brain-surgeon-told-saw-heaven-coma-today-reveals-stories-say-ve-similar-life-changing-experiences.html

Otondo

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2797764/what-heaven-s-really-like-leading-brain-surgeon-says-s-read-testimony-scoff-just-shake-beliefs.html

"My knowledge of the brain made me quite sure that out-of-body experiences, angelic encounters and the like were hallucinations, brought on when the brain suffered a trauma." - Dr Eben Alexander, a neurosurgeon, an academic who taught brain science at Harvard Medical School.

[size=15pt]Atheists, think again![/size]

My knowledge of the brain made me quite sure that out-of-body experiences, angelic encounters and the like were hallucinations, brought on when the brain suffered a trauma.
And then, in the most dramatic circumstances possible, I discovered proof that I was wrong. Six years ago, I woke up one morning with a searing headache. Within a few hours, I went into a coma: my neocortex, the part of the brain that handles all the thought processes making us human, had shut down completely. - Dr Eben Alexander

Read the rest here:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2797764/what-heaven-s-really-like-leading-brain-surgeon-says-s-read-testimony-scoff-just-shake-beliefs.html

Where are the atheists on NAIRALAND?

"What is unique in my case is that I am, as far as scientific records show, the only person to have travelled to this heavenly dimension with the cortex in complete shut-down, while under minute observation throughout.
There are medical records for every minute of my coma, and none of them show any indication of brain activity. In other words, as far as neuroscience can say, my journey was not something happening inside my head.
Plenty of scientists have a lot of difficulty with this statement. My experience undermines their whole belief system." - Dr Eben Alexander.

Dear op,
I don't know how to say these without appearing as insultive, so forgive me in advance.

What is it about religion, the belief in god, that seem to make everyone reason like toddlers?

You say " based on your understanding of the brain"....

How extensive is your understanding of the human brain? Are you a neuro-specialist of any kind?

How exactly does an out-of-body experience prove the existence of god?

I have what you call out-of-body experiences quite often. Yes.
Such experiences have not and does not anyway lead me to conclude that god exists.
I simply don't see the connection.
How do you make the connections?

As per your so-called angelic visitations, again, you such experiences are confined only to the mind of the individual, how does it become true, and how again does it ever prove the existence of sky-daddy?

Has it ever occurred to you that three people, a village farmer, a religious priest, and a highly educated philosopher would each give three different interpretations to the same dream or the same epiphany?
The village farmer would hear the voice of his dead ancestors, the priest would hear the voice of god, Jesus or an Angel, while the philosopher would perceive the interconnectedness of existential truths.

My point is that your mental experiences, within or outside your body, are constructed on the raw materials of your own personal reality, your character, and your value system.

You might as well say that LSD hallucinations or other narcotics- induced highs and hallucinations are also proof of god's existence.
Can you honestly say that?

plaetton:
Dear op,
I don't know how to say these without appearing as insultive, so forgive me in advance.

What is it about religion, the belief in god, that seem to make everyone reason like toddlers?

You say " based on your understanding of the brain"....

How extensive is your understanding of the human brain? Are you a neuro-specialist of any kind?

How exactly does an out-of-body experience prove the existence of god?

I have what you call out-of-body experiences quite often. Yes.
Such experiences have not and does not anyway lead me to conclude that god exists.
I simply don't see the connection.
How do you make the connections?

As per your so-called angelic visitations, again, you such experiences are confined only to the mind of the individual, how does it become true, and how again does it ever prove the existence of sky-daddy?

Has it ever occurred to you that three people, a village farmer, a religious priest, and a highly educated philosopher would each give three different interpretations to the same dream or the same epiphany?
The village farmer would hear the voice of his dead ancestors, the priest would hear the voice of god, Jesus or an Angel, while the philosopher would perceive the interconnectedness of existential truths.

My point is that your mental experiences, within or outside your body, are constructed on the raw materials of your own personal reality, your character, and your value system.

You might as well say that LSD hallucinations or other narcotics- induced highs and hallucinations are also proof of god's existence.
Can you honestly say that?

Did you read the article before making a comment? I doubt it.
Your argument is completely out-of-sync with the article.

Let me quote the man again:
"What is unique in my case is that I am, as far as scientific records show, the only person to have travelled to this heavenly dimension with the cortex in complete shut-down, while under minute observation throughout.

There are medical records for every minute of my coma, and none of them show any indication of brain activity. In other words, as far as neuroscience can say, my journey was not something happening inside my head.

Plenty of scientists have a lot of difficulty with this statement. My experience undermines their whole belief system." - Dr Eben Alexander.

BraveGuy:


Did you read the article before making a comment? I doubt it.
Your argument is completely out-of-sync with the article.

Let me quote the man again:
"What is unique in my case is that I am, as far as scientific records show, the only person to have travelled to this heavenly dimension with the cortex in complete shut-down, while under minute observation throughout.

There are medical records for every minute of my coma, and none of them show any indication of brain activity. In other words, as far as neuroscience can say, my journey was not something happening inside my head.

Plenty of scientists have a lot of difficulty with this statement. My experience undermines their whole belief system." - Dr Eben Alexander.

I read it, and I still fail to see how his personal interpretation of his experience proves the existence of god.
His use of the words " heavenly dimension" clearly betrays where he is coming from.
And I repeat, I too, on more than one occasion, have had experiences that I would tend to describe as being of heavenly dimensions.
How dies it ever prove that god exists?

Even if his and more my interpretations are true, it would point to the fact, as I have argued before on this forum, that the human brain posses quantum mechanical properties that allows it, once in while, to act as a conduit that connects to , trssmits and receive electromagnetic impulses from other dimensions or realities.
If true, it only proves that other realities exists just like ours, and perhaps just existing in a different vibrational frequency from our own reality.

There are plentiful narcotic and psychotropic herbs and drugs that also alter brain waves and open the window to other realities. These are what ancient shamans used for divinations.

So , my friend, there is nothing new about out-of-body experiences and the various interpretations given to them.

plaetton:

I read it, and I still fail to see how his personal interpretation of his experience proves the existence of god.
His use of the words " heavenly dimension" clearly betrays where he is coming from.
And I repeat, I too, on more than one occasion, have had experiences that I would tend to describe as being of heavenly dimensions.
How dies it ever prove that god exists?

Even if his and more my interpretations are true, it would point to the fact, as I have argued before on this forum, that the human brain posses quantum mechanical properties that allows it, once in while, to act as a conduit that connects to , trssmits and receive electromagnetic impulses from other dimensions or realities.
If true, it only proves that other realities exists just like ours, and perhaps just existing in a different vibrational frequency from our own reality.

There are plentiful narcotic and psychotropic herbs and drugs that also alter brain waves and open the window to other realities. These are what ancient shamans used for divinations.

So , my friend, there is nothing new about out-of-body experiences and the various interpretations given to them.

What you failed to observe was the fact that he said his brain stopped working, every form of his consciousness stopped, and every minute of this account was properly documented.

And, as you claimed, if you have had similar experience before and you can still claim the non-existence of God, then I pity your future in eternity, which sadly, would be Hell. I say that with all sadness and humility.

I would agree with you on the fact that heaven (or the spiritual world) operates at a different frequency in comparison with our world. That is the point, the reality of the existence of this other world does prove the existence of God. The man in that story, Dr Eben Alexander, did confess his skepticism of the whole matter of life after death.

Another point is that almost ALL who have had this experience always tell of their encounters with a Supreme being. Perhaps, your experience is one that was induced by drugs, to which I believe you cannot have the complete picture, but your encounter was with demons, and the Bible has revealed to us that "Satan is an angel of light."

Plaetton, please who gave you a phone?
Your initial post has nothing in relation to what the op posted?
Smh, the way SOME NL atheist argue self, will make you want to slap the crap out of them...

Argue reasonably, you just dived into the thread and started posing stuff that is not even in relation to what the OP was saying..

Smh for you

BraveGuy:


What you failed to observe was the fact that he said his brain stopped working, every form of his consciousness stopped, and every minute of this account was properly documented.

And, as you claimed, if you have had similar experience before and you can still claim the non-existence of God, then I pity your future in eternity, which sadly, would be Hell. I say that with all sadness and humility.

I would agree with you on the fact that heaven (or the spiritual world) operates at a different frequency in comparison with our world. That is the point, the reality of the existence of this other world does prove the existence of God. The man in that story, Dr Eben Alexander, did confess his skepticism of the whole matter of life after death.

Another point is that almost ALL who have had this experience always tell of their encounters with a Supreme being. Perhaps, your experience is one that was induced by drugs, to which I believe you cannot have the complete picture, but your encounter was with demons, and the Bible has revealed to us that "Satan is an angel of light."

You prove my point that everyone who has these experiences attributed it to some divine event. That is natural and to be expected.

Since his brain was supposedly dead for those moments, then its very easy to see why he had those hallucinations when his Brain rebooted back to life.
Such hallucinations also occur when people wake up from general anaesthesia after the nerve cells had been weakened by anaesthetics.

By your logic, one should also conclude that people under the influence of the Laughing Gas are in reality laughing at dome divine comedy taking place in the heavenly

dimension.
Abi?


As per the rest of your statements, well, you have behaved like a typical religiotard by invoking the devil and making threats if eternal suffering to what was supposed to be a sound logical discussion.
I call this trait " Religious Decoherence", and it is and embarrassing and extreme form of cognitive dissonance ( when a religiotard meets the brick wall of reason).

chrisviral:
Plaetton, please who gave you a phone?
Your initial post has nothing in relation to what the op posted?
Smh, the way SOME NL atheist argue self, will make you want to slap the crap out of them...

Argue reasonably, you just dived into the thread and started posing stuff that is not even in relation to wha[code][/code]t the OP was saying..

Smh for you

The op clearly understands what I postd, even if he disagrees.
You, on the other hand, seem incapable of comprehension, that's why you continued to fail English in school. Lol.

If you were smart enough and brave enough, you should have offered a rebuttal to my argument.
But I guess you are clearly not.
Pity!

BraveGuy:


Did you read the article before making a comment? I doubt it.
Your argument is completely out-of-sync with the article.

Let me quote the man again:
"What is unique in my case is that I am, as far as scientific records show, the only person to have travelled to this heavenly dimension with the cortex in complete shut-down, while under minute observation throughout.

There are medical records for every minute of my coma, and none of them show any indication of brain activity. In other words, as far as neuroscience can say, my journey was not something happening inside my head.

Plenty of scientists have a lot of difficulty with this statement. My experience undermines their whole belief system." - Dr Eben Alexander.

So was he able to map the time duration of his out of body experience to "every minute" of his coma? Can he guarantee that his out of body experience did not occur moments before he slipped into coma or moments before he recovered from it?

Given the subjective nature of his OOB experience, can we verify the objectivity of his claims? How do we know he's not exaggerated the whole experience?

Asking atheists to explain this is like me claiming to be superman and asking you to prove otherwise. It is quite impossible to prove a negative, isn't it?

@plantteon
atheism is a heart thing.
The narrator of the story, proves tht another reality outside the realm of d physcal senses,the spirit world exists.
How cud He be hallucinating wen His brain was physcally "dead"-inactive!
He experienced, the only element , tht renders logcal justifcation of atheism invalid - the spirit realm.
Ancient shamans as you say, did experience the spirit realm.
Drug addicts do too. Not all is hacculinations.

asalimpo:

The narrator of the story, proves tht another reality outside the realm of d physcal senses,the spirit world exists.

Proves? Merely making a claim does not constitute proof of anything.

BraveGuy:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2799385/glimpses-life-brain-surgeon-told-saw-heaven-coma-today-reveals-stories-say-ve-similar-life-changing-experiences.html

Neurosurgeon Dr Eben Alexander was convinced out-of-body experiences were hallucinations — until he went into a coma himself and had what he now believes was a glimpse of heaven.

Do you have to get into a coma before you believe?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2799385/glimpses-life-brain-surgeon-told-saw-heaven-coma-today-reveals-stories-say-ve-similar-life-changing-experiences.html

You are already beating a dead horse, Dr Eben Alexander has been debunked and shown to be a liar by other neuroscientist, this topic was discussed here on nairaland last year. . .

Here is an entry that debunks most of his claims and show them to be false. . .

http://www.salon.com/2012/11/26/dr_eben_alexanders_so_called_after_life/

In one of the book's most dramatic scenes, Dr. Laura Potter prepares Alexander to move from the ER to the ICU. In those final moments, after two straight hours of struggle—thrashing and guttural groans and wails—Eben Alexander grows quiet and shouts out, for everyone present to hear, "God, help me!" The doctors, nurses, his wife Holley and his neighbor Michael Sullivan, an Episcopal rector, rush to his stretcher, but Alexander remains completely unresponsive.

Dramatic, but it could not have happened. Dr. Potter has no recollection of the incident but she does remember that she intubated Alexander more than an hour before his departure from the ER. Could he have shouted anything, let alone something clearly heard? "No," she says.

He made a claim in his book while the doctor present there says he waas lying, it never happened. . .When will christians STOP Lying for Jesus?. . .

AgentOfAllah:


So was he able to map the time duration of his out of body experience to "every minute" of his coma? Can he guarantee that his out of body experience did not occur moments before he slipped into coma or moments before he recovered from it?

Given the subjective nature of his OOB experience, can we verify the objectivity of his claims? How do we know he's not exaggerated the whole experience?

Asking atheists to explain this is like me claiming to be superman and asking you to prove otherwise. It is quite impossible to prove a negative, isn't it?

there is too much minutiae here for a sickman to take note of.
He has given his account. Tryg to fault it by sayg it was possibly brain induced is a cop out.
And you know that.
Even if you doubt, the method u use is discriminatory because you accept many incidents as true based entirely on only hearsay and act on the information given without resolvg to minutiae inspection.

asalimpo:
@plantteon
atheism is a heart thing.
The narrator of the story, proves tht another reality outside the realm of d physcal senses,the spirit world exists.
How cud He be hallucinating wen His brain was physcally "dead"-inactive!
He experienced, the only element , tht renders logcal justifcation of atheism invalid - the spirit realm.
Ancient shamans as you say, did experience the spirit realm.
Drug addicts do too. Not all is hacculinations.

Dr Eben Alexander is a liar for Jesus. . .he has already been debunked. . .

*Esquire writer accuses famed doctor and author Dr. Eben Alexander of potentially embellishing story and leaving out key details
*Investigation shows alleged disparities in Alexander’s account of the afterlife as told in his book “Proof of Heaven” and by others familiar with the story
*Key personal details about Alexander’s background were withheld from the public, Esquire alleges
*ER doctor who treated the neurosurgeon gives contradictory account of events that unfolded at the hospital during Alexander’s near-death experience

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/07/03/did-the-famed-neurosurgeon-who-claims-he-saw-god-and-visited-heaven-lie-article-exposes-alleged-inconsistencies/

AgentOfAllah:


Proves? Merely making a claim does not constitute proof of anything.

if his story is true,he proves that there's a spirit world.
Besides, more people from different walks of life have narrated oob experiences that indicate there's a world beyond this.
They'd all have to b lying- which they arent.
The bible explicitly says there's one.

plaetton:

The op clearly understands what I posting, even if he disagrees.
You, in the other hand, seem incapable of comprehension, that's why you continued to fail English in school. Lol.

If you were smart enough and brave enough, you should have offered a rebuttal to my argument.
But I guess you are clearly not.
Pity!

As a wise man that I am, I have made my contribution where I saw a need for, your first post was out of order in relation to what the op posted... that's what I want to let you know.

The issue of not knowing english, is for another day on another platform.

asalimpo:


there is too much minutiae here for a sickman to take note of.

Exactly!!! So there's no need to trust his claim

He has given his account. Tryg to fault it by sayg it was possibly brain induced is a cop out.
And you know that.

I simply do not know what the experience was, period. It could be anything. So the burden of proof lies with whoever wishes to pass this off as real.

Even if you doubt, the method u use is discriminatory because you accept many incidents as true based entirely on only hearsay and act on the information given without resolvg to minutiae inspection.

If I take anything as real, it's because it can be verified. Otherwise, I have no obligation to accept its claim.

mazaje:


Dr Eben Alexander is a liar for Jesus. . .he has already been debunked. . .

*Esquire writer accuses famed doctor and author Dr. Eben Alexander of potentially embellishing story and leaving out key details
*Investigation shows alleged disparities in Alexander’s account of the afterlife as told in his book “Proof of Heaven” and by others familiar with the story
*Key personal details about Alexander’s background were withheld from the public, Esquire alleges
*ER doctor who treated the neurosurgeon gives contradictory account of events that unfolded at the hospital during Alexander’s near-death experience

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/07/03/did-the-famed-neurosurgeon-who-claims-he-saw-god-and-visited-heaven-lie-article-exposes-alleged-inconsistencies/

it was debunked because people,atheists,sceptics, wanted it to be so.
Is there any story/case threateng the justifcation of atheism that hasnt been debunked ?.
At the end of d day, it's no more
about logic or objectivity but inclination.
In other words, atheism is a wish that there's no God, masked as a belief tht there's none. While asking for incontravertible proof. Theyre are enuff clues already for any honest person to deduce a conclusion.

asalimpo:

if his story is true,he proves that there's a spirit world.

The experience itself could be true, but it doesn't prove that there's a spirit world.

asalimpo:

Besides, more people from different walks of life have narrated oob experiences that indicate there's a world beyond this.
They'd all have to b lying- which they arent.
The bible explicitly says there's one.

OOB experience doesn't require you to lie. The experience itself could be real, but it is in no way indicative of "a world beyond this". Hallucinations happen and they often seem real too.

asalimpo:


it was debunked because people,atheists,sceptics, wanted it to be so.
Is there any story/case threateng the justifcation of atheism that hasnt been debunked ?.
At the end of d day, it's no more
about logic or objectivity but inclination.
In other words, atheism is a wish that there's no God, masked as a belief tht there's none. While asking for incontravertible proof. Theyre are enuff clues already for any honest person to deduce a conclusion.

LOL!. . . He clearly lied and the lies he made were clearly listed in the piece, he said many things about the doctor that was with him when he was in his coma, when consulted the doctor said he clearly lied, and she is a christian, the question is why do christians love telling lies for Jesus?. .

AgentOfAllah:


The experience itself could be true, but it doesn't prove that there's a spirit world.



OOB experience doesn't require you to lie. The experience itself could be real, but it is in no way indicative of "a world beyond this". Hallucinations happen and they often seem real too.

you are classing all oobs under hallucinations . How objective is that?
How can something immaterial b proved in the first place? Which the spirit world is?
Assumg the term "spirit world" doesnt need definition.

@mazaje
He clearly lied you say.
How dyu know?
You read another account.
Contradicting his story and believed it. You were also relaxed in dismissing negators as contrived. You were more inclined to believe them.
If you, wanted to disbelieve them, you could raise doubts based on ur inclination until you were thoroughly convinced that their negations were wrong.
E.g you could hav appealled to absence or unprovability of plenty of unreported minute details missing from the reports of naysayers.

As for ur stance,it's d same as other atheists. Frankly, you guyz dont want to b convinced - you simply want to wish there's no God.

All reported oob accounts are lies-to you, In a religion tht warns of stiff penalties for lying. C'mon, you know that's d height of denial.
*besides,you hav no proof theyre lies other than acceptg and believg the report of another person ,whom you hav no proof theyre negations ar true!*

asalimpo:

if his story is true,he proves that there's a spirit world.
Besides, more people from different walks of life have narrated oob experiences that indicate there's a world beyond this.
They'd all have to b lying- which they arent.
The bible explicitly says there's one.

And your so called spirit world proves the existence of God in what way, Sir?

He has no evidence of his experience. It's no more valid than someone claiming that their dream really happened.

asalimpo:
@mazaje
He clearly lied you say.
How dyu know?
You read another account.
Contradicting his story and believed it. You were also relaxed in dismissing negators as contrived. You were more inclined to believe them.
If you, wanted to disbelieve them, you could raise doubts based on ur inclination until you were thoroughly convinced that their negations were wrong.
E.g you could hav appealled to absence or unprovability of plenty of unreported minute details missing from the reports of naysayers.

As for ur stance,it's d same as other atheists. Frankly, you guyz dont want to b convinced - you simply want to wish there's no God.

All reported oob accounts are lies-to you, In a religion tht warns of stiff penalties for lying. C'mon, you know that's d height of denial.
*besides,you hav no proof theyre lies other than acceptg and believg the report of another person ,whom you hav no proof theyre negations ar true!*

The Eben Alexander case made news because it appeared on the cover of news week and generated a lot of buzz, the buzz and the controversy it created had investigators going around interview most of the parties involved and it was in the process that he was discovered to have been lying, after the publication by Esquire Magazine challenging most of his claims, he himself went underground with his tale. . .This is old news. . .He has been debunked already. . .

http://www.salon.com/2012/11/26/dr_eben_alexanders_so_called_after_life/

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/07/03/did-the-famed-neurosurgeon-who-claims-he-saw-god-and-visited-heaven-lie-article-exposes-alleged-inconsistencies/

Read this two links and see the case that was made against him, most of which he couldn't deny. . .This topic was thrashed here a year ago. . .Its old news. . .

plaetton:


You prove my point that everyone who has these experiences attributed it to some divine event. That is natural and to be expected.

Since his brain was supposedly dead for those moments, then its very easy why he had those hallucinations when his Braun rebooted back to life.
Such hallucinations also occur when people wake up from general anaesthesia after the nerve cells had been weakened by anaesthetics.

By your logic, one should also conclude that people under the influence of the Laughing Gas are in reality laughing at dome divine comedy taking place in the heavenly

dimension.
Abi?


As per the rest of your statements, well, you have behaved like a typical religiotard by invoking the devil and making threats if eternal suffering to what was supposed to be a sound logical discussion.
I call this trait " Religious Decoherence", and it is and embarrassing and extreme form of cognitive dissonance ( when a religiotard meets the brick wall of reason).

You are such a joke!

Do you know where the threats you attributed to me is coming from? Your guilty conscience. As they say, "Ignorance of the law is not an excuse for crime." If you like, in spite of the evidence, continue to make excuses and dismiss the facts. Although, I doubt you read the article, maybe you just skimmed through it, otherwise, you won't be saying 90% of what you say except you just want make yourself look really foolish.

Perhaps, you do not think through before writing your replies. I will implore you to read the two articles again. This is not a religious matter, the guy wasn't even preaching, he's a respected neurosurgeon. How can you attribute his experiences to hallucination? No, you didn't read the article and hear him well.

In addition, did you see the video at the bottom of the page about the boy who went to heaven? "Heaven is Real". Do you want to tell me that a small boy who was born much AFTER his mother lost a baby through miscarriage (and never talked about it); got to meet the miscarried baby girl in heaven and later mentioned it to the shock of his parents? Hallucinating? You must be joking!

"Ignorantia juris non excusat" or "Ignorantia legis neminem excusat".

BraveGuy:


You are such a joke!
This is not a religious matter, the guy wasn't even preaching, he's a respected neurosurgeon. How can you attribute his experiences to hallucination? No, you didn't read the article and hear him well.

He is not a respected neurosurgeon anywhere, he is a liar who was just trying to use religious faith to make some cool cash by publishing a book based on lies and fiction. . .

Over the course of the past 12 years, he has apparently worked at three separate hospitals, but his employment has ended without explanation at each location. Here’s a sample surrounding his departure from one of the hospitals he once worked at:

In August 2003, UMass Memorial suspended Alexander’s surgical privileges “on the basis or allegation of improper performance of surgery.” (The specifics of the case leading to the suspension are confidential, though Alexander claims it resulted from “a very complex repeat operation I did around the brain stem of a patient in which the patient had more difficulty recovering after the operation I would say than I anticipated and than I led them to believe.”) His suspension technically ended in November of that same year, but he never went back to work at UMass Memorial. He resigned. The following year he did a little freelance consulting for the Gerson Lehrman Group, a company that matches corporations with experts in various fields, and also filed an unsuccessful lawsuit against the Brigham and Women’s Hospital, claiming it improperly withheld more than $400,000 of his retirement and deferred-compensation plans. He had been more or less out of work for fifteen months when, in March 2005, he received a letter from the Massachusetts Board of Registration in Medicine asking him to respond to a complaint form they’d received from a former patient who was upset that Alexander had stopped responding to phone calls. Alexander wrote a letter back, explaining that the complaint was invalid because he was no longer practicing and that, furthermore, he would soon be leaving the state altogether.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/07/03/did-the-famed-neurosurgeon-who-claims-he-saw-god-and-visited-heaven-lie-article-exposes-alleged-inconsistencies/

He was actually a Dr without a job until he devised a means to sell a lie using religious faith to make cool cash. . .All he is doing is what you and others do all the time, which is to tell lies for Jesus. . .Even he himself had had to change some of his stories when confronted by other experts. . .

mazaje:


You are already beating a dead horse, Dr Eben Alexander has been dubunked and shown to be a lair by other neuroscientist, this topic was discussed here on nairaland last year. . .

Here is an entry that debunks most of his claims and show them to be false. . .

http://www.salon.com/2012/11/26/dr_eben_alexanders_so_called_after_life/

In one of the book's most dramatic scenes, Dr. Laura Potter prepares Alexander to move from the ER to the ICU. In those final moments, after two straight hours of struggle—thrashing and guttural groans and wails—Eben Alexander grows quiet and shouts out, for everyone present to hear, "God, help me!" The doctors, nurses, his wife Holley and his neighbor Michael Sullivan, an Episcopal rector, rush to his stretcher, but Alexander remains completely unresponsive.

Dramatic, but it could not have happened. Dr. Potter has no recollection of the incident but she does remember that she intubated Alexander more than an hour before his departure from the ER. Could he have shouted anything, let alone something clearly heard? "No," she says.

He made a claim in his book while the doctor present there says he waas lying, it never happened. . .When will christians STOP Lying for Jesus?. . .

To be honest, the arguments presented as a debunk to Dr Eben Alexander's experience are just arguments against his experience, they do not hold water.

Who else would like to debunk the story of the boy upon which the movie, "Heaven Is Real" was based?

I am looking forward to that now.