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|Re: Ten (10) Rules To Keep A Man Of These Days!!! by NobleG1(m): 10:57pm On Jul 15, 2015|
Is Islam not a st*upid religion? The Koran is even the worst!
Islam promises it's followers 72 virgins when they reach heaven. What a complete lunacy!
Why people follow a dumb religion with this type of shallow thinking is beyond me!
|Re: Ten (10) Rules To Keep A Man Of These Days!!! by Nobody: 11:02pm On Jul 15, 2015|
Are you expecting a logical, intelligent argument from a nigerian woman?
|Re: Ten (10) Rules To Keep A Man Of These Days!!! by powerfulyomex(m): 11:15pm On Jul 15, 2015|
[color=#006600][/color] Hmm true talk sha.can any lady abide by these rules?
|Re: Ten (10) Rules To Keep A Man Of These Days!!! by Nobody: 7:33am On Jul 16, 2015|
NobleG1:No, Islam is not a stupid religion. The Qur'an is Infact the best gift to Humanity only If you understand. Let me teach you what you don't know; The quran is a book that has been written in the most poetic of writing styles that requires the attention of someone who understands the Quranic language to perfectly interpret. Heaven is an haven, not like Earth where you have to run and run before you make ends meet. The Quran described our lives on Earth as 'but a passing moment' that won't last and described heaven as the direct opposite; eternity. The Quran goes ahead to continue to warn us against committing attrocities that would mar our chances of gaining eternal peace and bliss (heaven) after our very short stay on Earth. Now, for the ever myopic human mind to understand what God meant by sacrificing the 'enjoyment' of this world, God in his absolute wisdom employed the use of figuritive expressions in an attempt to quantify how big the pay will be for one who has on the average lived a vanity free life and had been God conscious enough to uphold love, peace and unity, (the major reason we all are here) in his short stay on earth. You see, the Quranic language is not to be interpreted by the shallow mind, else, misconception. It is a guide that would last, It is light, it is God's simple proof to us that He exists! How? It was revealed by inspiration to a man (Muhammad bin Abdullah) who cannot read nor write prior to Prophethood but was by God's power and will commanded to Read and So it was without further ado!! That's miracle. This amazing incidence reveals to us how the whole universe started operating, It was just God saying; 'Be and it happens just like that', just as we find it to be now. Glory Glory Glory!!! Glory be to the Creator of the heavens and the earth and everything that exists, known to man or unknown to humans. He is mighty in power, everlasting in grace and second to none in wisdom.
My simple advise to you which I would like you to before reading choke on the chill pill is; You were not born by your own will, you will not get even an headache by your own will, and you will not die by your own will, so, why live your life by your own will?
|Re: Ten (10) Rules To Keep A Man Of These Days!!! by Nobody: 7:35am On Jul 16, 2015|
ebonflex:Loool, Are you serious?
|Re: Ten (10) Rules To Keep A Man Of These Days!!! by Nobody: 11:54am On Jul 16, 2015|
DJEhimond:You give her money without her asking then
|Re: Ten (10) Rules To Keep A Man Of These Days!!! by RaeMystix(f): 12:33pm On Jul 16, 2015|
Broke a $$
|Re: Ten (10) Rules To Keep A Man Of These Days!!! by DJEhimond(m): 6:21pm On Jul 16, 2015|
Now you get my point. That is the koko..
|Re: Ten (10) Rules To Keep A Man Of These Days!!! by msmee(f): 8:12pm On Jul 16, 2015|
Now that I know that you are muslim, it makes sense. No wonder you lack respect toward ur gf.
In fact, it's probably a sin to be faithful to a woman in your religion.
|Re: Ten (10) Rules To Keep A Man Of These Days!!! by Nobody: 9:31pm On Jul 16, 2015|
msmee:Nope, the problem is not with my religion, the problem is actually with me! My personality. I admit that I am not a good example of a Muslim. For goodness sake I need you to please know the absolute truth about matters, especially one's that are very sensitive like religion of others before spitting comments that is as derailing and false like this one you've said. I would have let this pass for I have said I won't reply you no matter what you say but for the sensitivity of it. Islamic teachings is actually the best thing there is to learn and the religion of Islam is actually the best thing that could happen to anybody I re-proclaim. I am but a sinful human trying to get better. I am not yet the faithful Muslim I should be and should not be judged along with the religion I claim to observe.
|Re: Ten (10) Rules To Keep A Man Of These Days!!! by msmee(f): 10:00pm On Jul 16, 2015|
Oh wow. ok. I pray that God touches your heart and gives you the strength to change your ways IJN.
We are all sinners actually, it's only by the grace of God. As long as you know that cheating is wrong and willing to stop then that's good.
|Re: Ten (10) Rules To Keep A Man Of These Days!!! by Nobody: 10:27pm On Jul 16, 2015|
msmee:Yh, its not easy sis. Being good looking and somewhat ok financially is a big test I declare. Unless by God's grace it's very hard to revoke temptations. Every unmarried man/woman engaged or not to somebody, having sex even with the one he's engaged to is a cheat. He/ she is cheating on his/her legitimate hubby/ wifey even if he/she ends up marrying that he/she was engaged to and is in no way better than one who is not loyal to one boyfriend /girlfriend. Do you agree to this?
|Re: Ten (10) Rules To Keep A Man Of These Days!!! by msmee(f): 5:44am On Jul 17, 2015|
Try not to put your faith and hope in good looks, money and worldly things. Otherwise, the temptations will be great.
1 Timothy 6:6-18
|Re: Ten (10) Rules To Keep A Man Of These Days!!! by NobleG1(m): 6:08am On Jul 17, 2015|
What does the Religion of "Peace" teach about...? Violence!
What created Boko Haram, ISIS and other violent Muslim terrorists? Islam!
The Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers for the sake of Islamic rule. Some are quite graphic, with commands to chop off heads and fingers and kill infidels wherever they may be hiding. Muslims who do not join the fight are called 'hypocrites' and warned that Allah will send them to Hell if they do not join the slaughter.
Unlike nearly all of the Bible Old Testament verses of violence, the verses of violence in the Quran are mostly open-ended, meaning that they are not restrained by the historical context of the surrounding text. They are part of the eternal, unchanging word of Allah, and just as relevant or subjective as anything else in the Quran.
The context of violent passages is more ambiguous than might be expected of a perfect book from a loving God, however this can work both ways. Most of today's Muslims exercise a personal choice to interpret their holy book's call to arms according to their own moral preconceptions about justifiable violence. Apologists cater to their preferences with tenuous arguments that gloss over historical fact and generally do not stand up to scrutiny. Still, it is important to note that the problem is not bad people, but bad ideology.
Unfortunately, there are very few verses of tolerance and peace to abrogate or even balance out the many that call for nonbelievers to be fought and subdued until they either accept humiliation, convert to Islam, or are killed. Muhammad's own martial legacy - and that of his companions - along with the remarkable stress on violence found in the Quran have produced a trail of blood and tears across world history.
Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing...but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun (the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)"
Quran (2:244) - "Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things."
Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
Not only does this verse establish that violence can be virtuous, but it also contradicts the myth that fighting is intended only in self-defense, since the audience was obviously not under attack at the time.
Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."
Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority".
This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be 'joining companions to Allah').
Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward."
The martyrs of Islam are unlike the early Christians, who were led meekly to the slaughter. These Muslims are killed in battle as they attempt to inflict death and destruction for the cause of Allah. This is the theological basis for today's suicide bombers.
Quran (4:76) - "Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…"
Quran (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks."
Quran (4:95) - "Not equal are those of the believers who sit (at home), except those who are disabled (by injury or are blind or lame, etc.), and those who strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allah with their wealth and their lives. Allah has preferred in grades those who strive hard and fight with their wealth and their lives above those who sit (at home). Unto each, Allah has promised good (Paradise), but Allah has preferred those who strive hard and fight, above those who sit (at home) by a huge reward "
This passage criticizes "peaceful" Muslims who do not join in the violence, letting them know that they are less worthy in Allah's eyes. It also demolishes the modern myth that "Jihad" doesn't mean holy war in the Quran, but rather a spiritual struggle. According to the verse, Allah will allow the disabled into Paradise, but will provide a larger reward to those who are able to kill others in his cause.
Quran (4:104) - "And be not weak hearted in pursuit of the enemy; if you suffer pain, then surely they (too) suffer pain as you suffer pain..." Is pursuing an injured and retreating enemy really an act of self-defense?
Quran (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"
Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"
No reasonable person would interpret this to mean a spiritual struggle.
Quran (8:15) - "O ye who believe! When ye meet those who disbelieve in battle, turn not your backs to them. (16)Whoso on that day turneth his back to them, unless maneuvering for battle or intent to join a company, he truly hath incurred wrath from Allah, and his habitation will be hell, a hapless journey's end."
Quran (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more fitna (disorder, unbelief) and religion should be only for Allah"
Some translations interpret "fitna" as "persecution", but the traditional understanding of this word is not supported by the historical context. The Meccans were simply refusing Muhammad access to their city during Haj. Other Muslims were allowed to travel there - just not as an armed group, since Muhammad had declared war on Mecca prior to his eviction. The Meccans were also acting in defense of their religion, since it was Muhammad's intention to destroy their idols and establish Islam by force (which he later did). Hence the critical part of this verse is to fight until "religion is only for Allah", meaning that the true justification of violence was the unbelief of the opposition.
Quran (8:57) - "If thou comest on them in the war, deal with them so as to strike fear in those who are behind them, that haply they may remember."
Quran (8:67) - "It is not for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war until he had made a great slaughter in the land..."
Quran (8:59-60) - "And let not those who disbelieve suppose that they can outstrip (Allah's Purpose). Lo! they cannot escape. Make ready for them all thou canst of (armed) force and of horses tethered, that thereby ye may dismay the enemy of Allah and your enemy."
Quran (8:65) - "O Prophet, exhort the believers to fight..."
Quran (9:5) - "So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them."
According to this verse, the best way of staying safe from Muslim violence is to convert to Islam (prayer (salat) and the poor tax (zakat) are among the religion's Five Pillars). This popular claim that the Quran only inspires violence within the context of self-defense is seriously challenged by this passage as well, since the Muslims to whom it was written were obviously not under attack. Had they been, then there would have been no waiting period (earlier verses make it a duty for Muslims to fight in self-defense, even during the sacred months). The historical context is Mecca after the idolaters were subjugated by Muhammad and posed no threat. Once the Muslims had power, they violently evicted those unbelievers who would not convert.
Quran (9:14) - "Fight against them so that Allah will punish them by your hands and disgrace them and give you victory over them and heal the breasts of a believing people."
Humiliating and hurting non-believers not only has the blessing of Allah, but it is ordered as a means of carrying out his punishment and even "healing" the hearts of Muslims.
Quran (9:20) - "Those who believe, and have left their homes and striven with their wealth and their lives in Allah's way are of much greater worth in Allah's sight. These are they who are triumphant."
The Arabic word interpreted as "striving" in this verse is the same root as "Jihad". The context is obviously holy war.
Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."
"People of the Book" refers to Christians and Jews. According to this verse, they are to be violently subjugated, with the sole justification being their religious status. Verse 9:33 tells Muslims that Allah has charted them to make Islam "superior over all religions." This chapter was one of the final "revelations" from Allah and it set in motion the tenacious military expansion, in which Muhammad's companions managed to conquer two-thirds of the Christian world in the next 100 years. Islam is intended to dominate all other people and faiths.
Quran (9:30) - "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"
Quran (9:38-39) - "O ye who believe! what is the matter with you, that, when ye are asked to go forth in the cause of Allah, ye cling heavily to the earth? Do ye prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? But little is the comfort of this life, as compared with the Hereafter. Unless ye go forth, He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place."
This is a warning to those who refuse to fight, that they will be punished with Hell.
Quran (9:41) - "Go forth, light-armed and heavy-armed, and strive with your wealth and your lives in the way of Allah! That is best for you if ye but knew." See also the verse that follows (9:42) - "If there had been immediate gain (in sight), and the journey easy, they would (all) without doubt have followed thee, but the distance was long, (and weighed) on them"
This contradicts the myth that Muslims are to fight only in self-defense, since the wording implies that battle will be waged a long distance from home (in another country and on Christian soil, in this case, according to the historians).
Quran (9:73) - "O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination."
Dehumanizing those who reject Islam, by reminding Muslims that unbelievers are merely firewood for Hell, makes it easier to justify slaughter. It also explains why today's devout Muslims have little regard for those outside the faith.
Quran (9:88) - "But the Messenger, and those who believe with him, strive and fight with their wealth and their persons: for them are (all) good things: and it is they who will prosper."
Quran (9:111) - "Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Quran: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme."
How does the Quran define a true believer?
Quran (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."
Quran (17:16) - "And when We wish to destroy a town, We send Our commandment to the people of it who lead easy lives, but they transgress therein; thus the word proves true against it, so We destroy it with utter destruction."
Note that the crime is moral transgression, and the punishment is "utter destruction." (Before ordering the 9/11 attacks, Osama bin Laden first issued Americans an invitation to Islam).
Quran (18:65-81) - This parable lays the theological groundwork for honor killings, in which a family member is murdered because they brought shame to the family, either through apostasy or perceived moral indiscretion. The story (which is not found in any Jewish or Christian source) tells of Moses encountering a man with "special knowledge" who does things which don't seem to make sense on the surface, but are then justified according to later explanation. One such action is to murder a youth for no apparent reason (74). However, the wise man later explains that it was feared that the boy would "grieve" his parents by "disobedience and ingratitude." He was killed so that Allah could provide them a 'better' son. (Note: This is one reason why honor killing is sanctioned by Sharia. Reliance of the Traveler (Umdat al-Saliq) says that punishment for murder is not applicable when a parent or grandparent kills their offspring (o.1.1-2).)
Quran (21:44) - "We gave the good things of this life to these men and their fathers until the period grew long for them; See they not that We gradually reduce the land (in their control) from its outlying borders? Is it then they who will win?"
Quran (25:52) - "Therefore listen not to the Unbelievers, but strive against them with the utmost strenuousness..."
"Strive against" is Jihad - obviously not in the personal context. It's also significant to point out that this is a Meccan verse.
Quran (33:60-62) - "If the hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease, and the alarmists in the city do not cease, We verily shall urge thee on against them, then they will be your neighbors in it but a little while. Accursed, they will be seized wherever found and slain with a (fierce) slaughter."
This passage sanctions the slaughter (rendered "merciless" and "horrible murder" in other translations) against three groups: Hypocrites (Muslims who refuse to "fight in the way of Allah" (3:167) and hence don't act as Muslims should), those with "diseased hearts" (which include Jews and Christians 5:51-52), and "alarmists" or "agitators who include those who merely speak out against Islam, according to Muhammad's biographers. It is worth noting that the victims are to be sought out by Muslims, which is what today's terrorists do. If this passage is meant merely to apply to the city of Medina, then it is unclear why it is included in Allah's eternal word to Muslim generations.
Quran (47:3-4) - "Those who disbelieve follow falsehood, while those who believe follow the truth from their Lord... So, when you meet (in fight Jihad in Allah's Cause), those who disbelieve smite at their necks till when you have killed and wounded many of them, then bind a bond firmly (on them, i.e. take them as captives)... If it had been Allah's Will, He Himself could certainly have punished them (without you). But (He lets you fight), in order to test you, some with others. But those who are killed in the Way of Allah, He will never let their deeds be lost."
Those who reject Allah are to be killed in Jihad. The wounded are to be held captive for ransom. The only reason Allah doesn't do the dirty work himself is to to test the faithfulness of Muslims. Those who kill pass the test.
Quran (47:35) - "Be not weary and faint-hearted, crying for peace, when ye should be uppermost (Shakir: "have the upper hand" ) for Allah is with you,"
Quran (48:17) - "There is no blame for the blind, nor is there blame for the lame, nor is there blame for the sick (that they go not forth to war). And whoso obeyeth Allah and His messenger, He will make him enter Gardens underneath which rivers flow; and whoso turneth back, him will He punish with a painful doom."
Contemporary apologists sometimes claim that Jihad means 'spiritual struggle.' Is so, then why are the blind, lame and sick exempted? This verse also says that those who do not fight will suffer torment in hell.
Quran (48:29) - "Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard (ruthless) against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves"
Islam is not about treating everyone equally. This verse tells Muslims that there are two very distinct standards that are applied based on religious status. Also the word used for 'hard' or 'ruthless' in this verse shares the same root as the word translated as 'painful' or severe' to describe Hell in over 25 other verses including 65:10, 40:46 and 50:26..
Quran (61:4) - "Surely Allah loves those who fight in His way"
Religion of Peace, indeed! The verse explicitly refers to "battle array" meaning that it is speaking of physical conflict. This is followed by (61:9): "He it is who has sent His Messenger (Mohammed) with guidance and the religion of truth (Islam) to make it victorious over all religions even though the infidels may resist."
(See next verse, below). Infidels who resist Islamic rule are to be fought.
Quran (61:10-12) - "O You who believe! Shall I guide you to a commerce that will save you from a painful torment. That you believe in Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad ), and that you strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allah with your wealth and your lives, that will be better for you, if you but know! (If you do so) He will forgive you your sins, and admit you into Gardens under which rivers flow, and pleasant dwelling in Gardens of 'Adn - Eternity ['Adn (Edn) Paradise], that is indeed the great success."
This verse refers to physical battle in order to make Islam victorious over other religions (see above). It uses the Arabic word, Jihad.
Quran (66:9) - "O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites, and be stern with them. Hell will be their home, a hapless journey's end."
The root word of "Jihad" is used again here. The context is clearly holy war, and the scope of violence is broadened to include "hypocrites" - those who call themselves Muslims but do not act as such.
|Re: Ten (10) Rules To Keep A Man Of These Days!!! by iceberylin(m): 8:05am On Jul 17, 2015|
RaeMystix:I was just helping
|Re: Ten (10) Rules To Keep A Man Of These Days!!! by iceberylin(m): 8:08am On Jul 17, 2015|
Come trough and see how we live...
|Re: Ten (10) Rules To Keep A Man Of These Days!!! by Nobody: 1:33pm On Jul 17, 2015|
msmee:You haven't answered my question.
|Re: Ten (10) Rules To Keep A Man Of These Days!!! by Nobody: 4:58pm On Jul 17, 2015|
NobleG1, No, Islam did not create Boko just as Christianity did not create Ku Klux Klan, the BH insurgence is still a mystery to be unraveled on a general note but on a personal note, It's motivation and source is from the usual reason for terrorism activities ( personal ulterior motives, greed and co. of some supremacists who don't mind ceasing power and rule by whatever means/tactics). Terrorism being a human malady that is as old as man started when man struck his fellow man to death for reason I stated earlier; greed!
I would have loved to enlighten you myself but for my lack of appetite to writing long essays. But, I would refer you anyway to a site where you would be introduced to what life was like in Arabia before, during and after the prophet. It will be a guide for you to understand the whys
behind those revelations. Visit www.islamicity.com/education/ihame/default.asp?Destination=/education/ihame/2.asp with the open mind and come back here with fresh views. We'll continue from there.
|Re: Ten (10) Rules To Keep A Man Of These Days!!! by Nobody: 5:00pm On Jul 17, 2015|
|Re: Ten (10) Rules To Keep A Man Of These Days!!! by RaeMystix(f): 6:23pm On Jul 17, 2015|
Indeed you were "just helping" .
|Re: Ten (10) Rules To Keep A Man Of These Days!!! by iceberylin(m): 1:04pm On Jul 18, 2015|
RaeMystix:Thats how we roll
|Re: Ten (10) Rules To Keep A Man Of These Days!!! by msmee(f): 4:28pm On Jul 18, 2015|
Your question isn't sensible to me. You can't punish your gf for having premarital sex with you by cheating on her. You are not her God. Read those passages I posted. Sometimes, wealth and good looks make people feel proud as if they are God. Try to humble yourself and treat your gf with decency and respect.
|Re: Ten (10) Rules To Keep A Man Of These Days!!! by Nobody: 7:22pm On Jul 18, 2015|
msmee:Hahaha.... Ok ok, but I wasn't talking about punishing anybody my dear, I was just asking about your point of view on a general note. BTW, Must you judge? You don't even know how it feels like living my life and you don't know so many more things 'bout me.... I'm beginning to have this feeling your maybe ex cheated on u or made you feel bitter but your own life experience with a cheating partner is not always the same for everyone, Roger that sweetie.
|Re: Ten (10) Rules To Keep A Man Of These Days!!! by godstreasure23: 8:48pm On Jul 18, 2015|
Must it be women keeping men? Y not men keeping the ladies? Afterall na d men come marry d lady..... Ladies got to stand n learn to live on their own... Nobody will go to heaven together..... If a man doesnt want to stay let him go.....
|Re: Ten (10) Rules To Keep A Man Of These Days!!! by NobleG1(m): 9:24pm On Jul 18, 2015|
You have disputed or proved my previous response wrong. And I'm not interest to check the Muslim propaganda website link you provided.
|Re: Ten (10) Rules To Keep A Man Of These Days!!! by msmee(f): 7:55pm On Jul 20, 2015|
Nope. I don't have any cheating experience (and I pray never to). In a christian relationship, cheating is the same and it's very disrespectful.
maybe this explains why cheating is not a big deal in islam.
|Re: Ten (10) Rules To Keep A Man Of These Days!!! by Nobody: 3:16am On Jul 21, 2015|
msmee:Lol. If you are not married and are having sex wt your boyfriend then you are as good as a cheat. That was the point I was making.... To the 72 virgins ish, Its complete fallacy! Even though the Quran said one who has entered heaven in the afterlife will have accomplices that will be beautiful beyond description, pure, holy and overly mesmerizing, the quran did NOT mention 72 virgins! Its a complete fabble. Second to none fabrication. Furthermore anyway, I'd told NobleG1 off on the things he's misconcieved, like this very claim and I feel he's better informed now. So, I won't want you to go there. You should even be careful because that dude claims He doesn't at all believe God exists, so, why should you at all follow his guide? Moreover anyway, How many times will I tell u my religion doesn't at all support cheating in any form? Why do you keep going back there after you've been informed? Why do you decide to continue to follow the lies after the truth has been spelt out clear? Is that what Christianity teach?
|Re: Ten (10) Rules To Keep A Man Of These Days!!! by NobleG1(m): 4:07am On Jul 21, 2015|
Islamic leaders, seeking to motivate would be suicide bombers, inducing them to commit murder in the name of Allah, have been quoting Islamic sources, which promise 72 Virgins in Paradise to those who kill and are killed in Jihad for Allah.
Many Muslims, especially those exposed to Western culture, are aware of the jokes and the ridicule that the 72 Virgins legend has brought upon them and upon their brother believers. Consequently, they blame the Jews for spreading the myth in an attempt to downgrade the image of the Islamic "freedom fighters".
Despite the disclaimer by some Muslims, the truth is very clear. The 72 Virgins notion has its origins in the Qur'an. Although the holy book does not specify the number as 72, it does say that those who fight in the way of Allah and are killed will be given a great reward. It goes on to stipulate that Muslims will be awarded with women in Islamic heaven. It even describes their physical attributes—large eyes (Q 56:22) and big, firm, round "swelling breasts" that are not inclined to sagging (Q 78:33). The Qur'an refers to these virgins as houri, companions of equal age, but the highly-flavored emphasis of their bodily characteristics, including their virginity, gave rise to many hadiths and other Islamic writings.
Hadith 2687 is where the number 72 is mentioned. "The smallest reward for the people of Heaven is an abode where there are eighty thousand servants and 72 houri, over which stands a dome decorated with pearls, aquamarine and ruby, as wide as the distance from al-Jabiyyah to San'a."
Qur'anic commentator Al-Suyuti (died 1505) and Orthodox Muslim theologians such as al Ghazali (died 1111 CE) and Al-Ash'ari (died 935 CE) graphically elaborated sensual pleasures attributed to Muslims in paradise". Al-Suyuti wrote, "Each time we sleep with a Houri we find her virgin. Besides, the joystick of the Elected never softens. The erection is eternal; the sensation that you feel each time you make love is utterly delicious and out of this world and were you to experience it in this world you would faint. Each chosen one [i.e. Muslim] will marry seventy houris, besides the women he married on earth, and all will have appetizing vaginas."
On the whole, the Qur'an and the hadiths are filled with sexual fantasies that Muslim men are awarded when they reach Islamic heaven. Anas bin Malik, an Islamic scholar, claimed that "The Prophet used to visit all his wives in a round, during the day and night and they were eleven in number… The Prophet was given the strength of thirty (men)." Muhammad (hadith 24) apparently claimed that devout Muslims would be given the sexual strength of 100 persons upon their arrival in Heaven.
The sexual obsession by Muslim men as conveyed by Islamic writings, takes its cue from the founder of the religion. The description depicts him as a sexual predator. Aisha, Muhammad's wife since she was a nine-year-old girl, described her sexual experiences with the prophet. When she was six years old, he could not have intercourse with her due to her young age. As a consolation prize, he placed his joystick between her thighs and massaged it softly. Aisha explained that unlike other believers, the prophet had control over his joystick."
Being consistent with its sexual obsession and predatory practices, the Qur'an permits pedophilia (sura 65:4). It also discusses rape in detail. It lets you know that men can rape female slaves and captives (Q 23:6), even in front of their husbands (Q 4:24). Other writings advise that when having sex with captives, it's better if you don't pull out at the end (Sahih Bukhari 3:46:718).
It's no wonder that 72 Virgins in Paradise are a fundamental piece of Islamic culture. Sex, sex abuse, pedophilia, and enslavement of women take central stage within that religion. Encouraging martyrdom by pointing to sexual rewards in heaven is a natural corollary of that tradition. Although the Qur'an may not be as specific, it nevertheless, offers many clues, which subsequent inscriptions reinforced, interpreted, and broadened.
|Re: Ten (10) Rules To Keep A Man Of These Days!!! by msmee(f): 11:04pm On Jul 21, 2015|
it's a senseless point.
does your religion also tell you that "if you forgot to fast during ramadan, then you are as good as a suicide bomber?"
because we are all created in God's image, even atheists know that cheating, raping, stealing, killing etc are morally wrong and we should be respectful and compassionate to our fellow human beings.
|Re: Ten (10) Rules To Keep A Man Of These Days!!! by Nobody: 12:19am On Jul 22, 2015|
Ramadan and suicide bombing... How does that relate
No, atheist don't. Remember ritual killings, killings of twins in the olden days? Is it your pastors that masterminded those? Is it not the practice of the atheists?
Yh, am affectionate to my fellow but I won't see gun and call it stick.
|Re: Ten (10) Rules To Keep A Man Of These Days!!! by Nobody: 12:29am On Jul 22, 2015|
NobleG1:I knew I was wasting my time trying to iron things out with you. I have the feeling you're copying and pasting these from somewhere, that was why I redirected you to that Islamic site you won't visit for reasons best known to you. Trying to convince me on something am already dead sure about is a total waste of the time, so, let's just stab it.
|Re: Ten (10) Rules To Keep A Man Of These Days!!! by msmee(f): 1:32am On Jul 22, 2015|
Exactly. they don't relate... you are trying to relate things that don't relate. Cheating is an act of extreme disrespect toward your partner. She doesn't deserve that.
So you don't know the difference between an atheist and a pagan?
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