we need to start using i-phone

??

And?

Why should i ever use an I phone?
i craze ne?

Muza can't send MMS and cannot record video. Ergo, Muza is marginally better than a rock!

Texas dnt let me start with u.
We are discussing I phone here,
If you cant defend these allegations just keep quiet,

Ok

texazzpete:

Muza can't send MMS and cannot record video. Ergo, Muza is marginally better than a rock!

guy u 2 lyk quarrel, did muza insult u? dem no fit talk of Iphone make u throw way face

malikalhaj:

guy you to like quarrel, did muza insult u? them no fit talk of Iphone make u throw way face

Would you rather i spend my time begging for 'free browsing tips' like many of you do here?

Muza:


Texas dnt let me start with u.
We are discussing I phone here,
If you can't defend these allegations just keep quiet,

But i didn't insult you! If it's reasonable to compare the best selling phone in the US, and the No 2 Smartphone marketshare in the US (second only to Nokia) to a rock, then it's reasonable to compare you to a rock too.


Speaking of rocks, you musta crawled out of under one recently for you to claim that a 1.83 Ghz core 1 CPU and a geforce go 7600 GPU are cutting edge specs.

texazzpete:

But i didn't insult you! If it's reasonable to compare the best selling phone in the US, and the No 2 Smartphone marketshare in the US (second only to Nokia) to a rock, then it's reasonable to compare you to a rock too.

@texaz
texas,u ar so naive.
U dont even know the facts behind the gadget.
U and all ur i phone fanatics,when confronted,cannot give a single,convincing reason why u like i phone.

let me explain it to you:

I-phone = brilliant marketing = over-exaggerated hype over nothing new with less usability and interoperability = waste of money = regret

Anybody I-phone owner that sees sony ericsson xperia,samsung omnia,HTCs and other good smartphones,
Will surely regret falling for the con of steve jobs.

texas u better go and sell ur i-phone(thats if could afford 1 ),or if u are fasting,starving and saving to buy 1 to look at that picture again.
Dont say i ddnt warn u.

Lol muza, if u knew texazpete u'l realize u just made a fool of urself wit ur last paragraph. Nothn do u sha, u cant know wht u dunno. I aint taking sides here but u pipz should ease up. Fact is, any borry wey fight after dis my post eh, i go ban am asaply, lolz.

@Muza
lol. You're taking the lazy man's approach here. There's a thread called 'IPhone Killer Apps'. There's also yet another 'Iphone vs N95' thread opened recently. If you could be arsed to read these, you'd find the answers you seek.

It's clear you love HTC and WinMo devices. But windows mobile is getting seriously dated here and no amount of coverup will change that. And yes, i ditched my Htc TYtN for my iPhone. The ease of use and strong all round features tore apart the competition.

It's a pity all the people you've been 'confronting' cannot show you just what you are missing, but i cannot spare any time to discuss with your ilk. Get your lazy arse off the floor and go read through all the iphone threads.

Texxaz. . The iphone na ur sista. .

@Poster

What was your intention of starting this thread?? It looks pointless to me.

Well,its all gud

Whats the problem with u guys about Iphone and Nokia to me they are both great phones. If you r a regular guy that just needs a phone with funtions, application and style go for nokia but you r a gadget freak that needs more power on the move then go for I-phone its that simple either way I dont mind owning the two but am a Sony ericsson owner.

I fail to understand . . . the essence of this thread. . .

its like Muza finds this iphone/rock photo comparison so amusing he can't help spamming nairaland with it. he puts it everywhere he can find the New Topic button and cackles like he just made the discovery of the century.

me, i smell a jackass.


what i find remarkable is the claim that all iphone buyesr have been conned; right, like we didnt see the specs sheet before we bought the phone. apple never claimed the iphone sends mms, or that it had a video recorder, or an expansion card, or bluetooth obex etc. so if the company made no false claims and the specs were given in macworld in january 2007 a good six months before the iphone came out and the same specs are still in the apple website, i fail to see how we all were deceived.

and if we bought into the iphone craze because of some fantastic Apple hype, don't you think we'd discover the fraud from experiences with the iphone 1st gen and give the 3G a wide berth?

so why is the 3G flying off the shelves?

I'm guessing the iphone sells like hot cake simply because its cool, and the buyers like cool stuff. Blackberyy phones have all the "features" you highlight, Muza, but the funny thing is the iphone has unseated  Blackberry to be the number 2 smartphone.

and the rest of the industry is still playing catchup with new touchscreen devices being churned out everyday. still, none comes close, not even the Blackberry Storm (Storm in a teacup after all).

the market position of the iphone, the popularity of it, the endless clones and the mass movement by developers towards the iphone application platform should give you an inkling of where WinMo stands in the grand scheme of things.

latest rumor? Nokia is probably ditching symbian to go for linux (perhaps abdroid) because Symbian just isnt robust and powerful enough for the next gen smartphones , a benchmark set by apple.

frankly, i have seen few iphone owners dissatisfied with the dievice. a few misgivings, sure. but not outright condemnation and a demand for refund. and so far most careers are losing their customers to networks that carry the iphone.

food for thought, eh?
that says a lot about the desirability of these features, doesnt it?

I hate the fact that I have to contribute to this pointless thread but I need to correct an opinion of ex-inferis.

The fact that someone thinks Nokia is ditching Symbian for another operating system is out of this world. Nokia only recently bought up 100% stake in the Symbian group and is actively working on the OS the same way Microsoft is working on Windows Mobile to bring it up to par in the 'touch' scene. Granted, the pace was set by Apple.

Why start customizing another platform to work for you when you only recently bought up another platform which you can turn into anything you want it to be?? Food for thought.

By the way, when you say Symbian isnt robust and powerful enough for next-gen smartphones, what exactly are you talking about? I'll take that as a slip.

Disclaimer: I own an iPhone. 8GB, 2.0.1, Winpwned.

How I love watching this

Symbian and Andriod merge?doesnt make sense.symbian has a larger percent in phones.unlike andriod.then nokia shud drop their control to andriod(which is still buggy).nokia isnt tied to a particular os.remember some nokia phones r linux based.from my opinion iphone has a good hardware but a touchscreen phone is never my type. @Ex-fernis (take it easy,anything iphones triggers u)

pc guru:

@Ex-fernis (take it easy,anything iphones triggers u)

Allow Ex i-phone fernis ,
its like we are adding to his frustration anytime we reveal the true color of the i-phone.
He is doing everythin,fighting tooth and nail,trying to console himself.
I-phone is a good phone if u dont like sharing stuffs (selfish ),its got touch screen, mp3 and costs 85geez .

Boss Ttdiamonds:

Texxaz. . The iphone na ur sista. .

LMFAO!
nice one,i think I-phone na him sista.
Sorry i said your sista is not hot (for most of us) .
Dont take it personal .

If u see ur neighbours beard on fire,put water on your own.
A word is enough for the wise.

These days i feel we are into some mobile cult group.Nokia,Apple and the rest(linux,winmo).bash anyone that crosses one path.

This is the phone section were we discuss phone
not to make foes.
I'm sorry if i abused anyone .
I just bashed the i-phone which is a gadget,I hav the right to do that.
I ddnt abuse anyone i was just trying to bring out the flaws of I-phone.
i'm using sony ericsson P1,which i know is not as good as the i-phone.
i'm considering upgrading,but i'd rather go for the xperia than the i-phone.
Because i think if you look at the specs.
I want a phone with bluetooth,FM radio,Removable memorycard to name a few which the i-phone does not have.

So guyz lets discuss phones,

Muza, Nah! dnt take d easy way out just yet ! Texaz is coming to give u ur deservd spanking

LMFAO!

dragnet:

Muza, Nah! dnt take d easy way out just yet ! Texaz is coming to give u ur deservd spanking

Texaz has run out of words,he has nothin to say.
What can he ever say to defend that phony phone.

I think he is considering selling his phone to cut his loss
Hope he gets someone gulible enough to buy, Gud luck

Xperia got some hard specs like ram,i think 384mb is too much for a phone.some specs beat the iphone and some dont.and also uses Ati card. @muza (if u buy d phone.let me knw price)

naijafan:

I hate the fact that I have to contribute to this pointless thread but I need to correct an opinion of ex-inferis.

The fact that someone thinks Nokia is ditching Symbian for another operating system is out of this world. Nokia only recently bought up 100% stake in the Symbian group and is actively working on the OS the same way Microsoft is working on Windows Mobile to bring it up to par in the 'touch' scene. Granted, the pace was set by Apple.

Why start customizing another platform to work for you when you only recently bought up another platform which you can turn into anything you want it to be?? Food for thought.

im either misquoted or perhaps i didnt make my point clear enough: what i meant was, Nokia is ditching Symbian as the base for its upcoming flagship devices, which presumably will contend as "iphone killers". nokia has too much at stake in symbian to completely ditch it, but what its goiung to do is leverage a linux variant to power its next gen convergence device (its already tested the waters with N800/N810). symbian will continue gracing E series and N series devices.

its going to take this route partly as a result of my next answer to your opinion below.

naijafan:

By the way, when you say Symbian isnt robust and powerful enough for next-gen smartphones, what exactly are you talking about? I'll take that as a slip.

no slip here. most OS/platforms must also take developers into consideration and by extension the ocde base and development tools must be robust and stable. however, symbian isnt robust because:

1. no cross-platform compatibility: Symbian is essentially a kernel on top of which run the UI platform. the problem is, Symbian MOAP, UIQ and S60 are not cross-compatible with each other. in order to run code from one platform on to another one must decompile and recompile. THAT ISNT ROBUSTNESS.

2. even within the popular S60 platform apps on the 3rd edition of S60 as well as Symbian OS 9.x are not binary compatible with older S60/Symbian apps, requiring extensive porting of code. meanwhile even though they run on slightly different firmware iphone, iphone 3G and ipod touch apps are cross-compatible.

3. Symbian which was designed from code from the 1990s, is not powerful enough to be a real challenger to iphone OS X. sure, symbian can run touchscreen devices (as seen in the 5800 XpressMusic) but it cannot in its present guise efficietly run the kind of interface on the iphone with multitouch. reason: Symbian uses a crippled version of C++ with Multithreading removed and no support for strings. it uses Active objects instead and something called leaves. now im no hotshot developer but im familiar with C, C++, C# and Xcode, and my opinion is running an interface like multitiouch, which is GPU/CPU intensive, requires serious threading and not active objects; doing it otherwise will result in serious lags and freezes as the CPU devotes copius amounts of cycles to process active object requests.

similar thing occured with the Blackberry Storm. according to reviewers the storm runs on blackberry os 4.7 (a rehash of 4.6 on the Bold). the problem, Blackberry OS was never designed for the kind of interface on the Storm, so RIM modified the code, essentially tacking touch capabilities to the OS. so, it lags. the Storm has some compelling hardware specs, so its not about CPU or hardware acceleration etc; its about the quality of code.

back to Symbian. like i said earlier developers can make or break a platform ( just like in the console wars). while iphone OS app developers have the very easy Xcode/Objective C (which i use for one or two projects) and the wonderful interface builder, Symbian devs are bogged down with Visual Studio 2003 (not even 2005!). anyone here in nairaland can tell you working with VS2003 is a biatch.

also on the theme of devs, consider the challenge of creating apps under symbian signed; you work with VS2003 with outdated code (C++ for symbian, except if you decide to go with Carbide, which still is not on par with iphone's SDK), then you apply for Verisign's Symbian Signed certificate which is expensive,a and load up your app somewhere up in the cloud and hope users can find your app to buy. in a nutshell, the difficulty of coding symbian apps, the expense and hassle of Symbian Signed's program, Symbian's tough vetting process ("why do you need this or that API, why do you want that function call, explain what you intend to do with access to user space data" etc etc) all add up to the overhead of devving apps and negates the entry of freeware devs and enthusiasts.

so in many fields symbian isnt robust. since Nokia lacks the competence to craft a worthy OS on its own from scratch (remember they didnt invent Symbian; it came from PSION's EPOC) it stands to reason they have to leverage a customized variant of Linux (like i said they have tried Maemo on their Internet Tablets and it works) on a new convergent device (ie a merging of N series and E series) to target the entertainment/business iphone demography.

so like i said before, Symbian isnt robust and powerful enough to compete with Iphone OS X.

naijafan:

Disclaimer: I own an iPhone. 8GB, 2.0.1, Winpwned.

Disclaimer: i own iphone 1st gen, iphone 3G,Nokia E71,Nokia 5610 XpressMusic, Nokia N800, Nokia N95, XDA 2i and HP Ipaq rx 1950 (both WinMo 5)

Well everything you pointed out is right. From my point of view.i would prefer if nokia scraps symbian and go for android.symbian can still exist.nokia restricts apps from using Api(wifi, camera and etc) but apple itself is a closed system. U cant write any app until it goes thru them for inspection,or else ur apps gets killed by a killswitch.operating systems are meant to be open source.though its xcode and cocoa framework beats any operating system alive.andriod is something else that i feel can rival apple.symbian is crap.i only like it cuz getting apps is easier rather than thru appstore.as for iphone functions i cant say.but the os is years ahead any mobile and maybe few with andriod

I started a thread iphone vs n95.without looking at iphone games.believe me i was looking at psp quality.though nokia might start with hardware games.but the issues now lies with memory.symbian leaks too much memory and fails to retrieve them.demand paging well has its issues also because it has to write to the device before it can retrieve it.thus taking time.the issue here is coding techniques hell cant even remember when last i coded c++.but if symbian is from c++. Multi threading is meant 2 b implemented as well as exceptions.the only way i see myself getting iphone is if it can use bluetooth keyboard for its games.but at least demand paging makes it manageable.

When its affordable by every nigerian but for now its just for fancy, serious speaking why would u want to own a phone with so much power? Except you are a gadget geek. Its a cool phone but everyone nowadays just wants a phone to make and receive calls only, but damn its a nice phone to ve.

Infoseye the pc world is saturated with competitors leaving the mobile world as the next.right now am eating eba in enugu in a village with no wifi for my phones nor pc.mobiles are the portable pc.do you know that though i am in enugu i read the news online everyday.check my mail, watch porn and even reply you.technology has made the world smaller.therefore its neccesary for phones to be powerful.if i only needed to make calls a landline will suffice.