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Re: Jonathan's Religion And NOT Politics Is Why They Want Him Out by LFJ: 10:07pm On Nov 21, 2014
MudRaker:


As presiding head of all things Nigeria that makes you a fool as well

Plus your papa that is if you get one.


And your mama


And bisi or whatever phat azz bimbo gree give you her smelly puna

You see what I mean when I said Jonathan assemble f.o.ols to manage his image. Is this part of your campaign message for him?

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Re: Jonathan's Religion And NOT Politics Is Why They Want Him Out by san316(m): 10:21pm On Nov 21, 2014
MudRaker:


Which dimension am I just introducing?

You are either blind to facts or a plain ignoramus to think northern Nigerian politics can be in conformity with anything democratic.

Jonathan has been severally accused of being sectarian. His affiliation with Orisejafor has been condemned severally by the north and Jonathan has been condemned here for introducing religion into politics.

My job here is to point the hypocrisy out.

You can disagree with me but don't use this argument to shill for your Buhari and northern masters.
sharrap. People like you are the cause of religious crisis in Nigeria. You say northern Muslims hate gej because of his religion,generalization but not factual. I have a Muslim colleague that voted for gej, he is from Maiduguri. Which is the first group that endorsed gej? Northern PDP governors forum, are they not Muslims? Why was there attacks on northern monarchs after the 2011 elections? Because they orchestrated gej's victory at the polls. So who are those northerners that hate gen because of his religion? You said the Muslims criticize. Gej because of his association. With oritseJETfor, why did the catholics pull out of CAN? Because jetfor and get just like you are doing are politicising can which is unethical.

One fact still remains, it is only natural that a person would prefer to associate with someone with shared belief than with another person. It is natural for a Muslim to prefer a Muslim leader and vice versa but a point when that preference us doing the society a lot of harm, it must be swept off and objectivity affirmed.

And by the way, that picture was not made by any Muslim. There are many caricature created by Christians about Jesus and you didn't complain.

Keep your religion to your self and let peace reign.

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Re: Jonathan's Religion And NOT Politics Is Why They Want Him Out by OreMI22: 1:40am On Nov 22, 2014
MudRaker:
A caricatured picture of Jonathan kneeling down in Church complete with mocking text is circulated in social media by no other person than a prominent opposition figure. The joke if any was gleefully shared and retwitted among mainly northern Muslims who delighted at El Rufai's vulgar and distasteful attempt at making a joke. The backlash to this were not as the case would have been if it were a Muslim President praying in a mosque but was limited to verbal condemnation only.

Now the issue at hand is that we have had more Muslim presidents and who were exclusively from the north being pictured or televised worshiping in the mosque but no single critism from Christians was ever heard.

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Another disturbing fact is how so many northerners and prominent opposition figures view Jonathan's church going as being sectarian in nature even though past Muslim leaders were free to worship openly for some reason a Christian President kneeling down worshiping in church is seen as sectarian. Even though this administration has not introduced any discriminatory policy or sidelined the Muslim community they still accuse him of being sectarian because he openly practiced his religion freely as enshrined in the constitution.

Speaking of constitutions, Nigeria is the only Nation that operates two sets of laws; the constitution of the Federal Republlc and that of the Islamic legal code, Sharia. If this is not sectarian then I don't know what to call it.

The northern leaders did not consider other minority religions when they enacted Sharia law and the fallout riots that engulfed their region.. Even Boko Haram are fighting to forcefully impose Sharia law over the polity but to them this is not the issue but the fact that President Jonathan knelt down to worship in Church is unbecoming.

Jonathan is also accused of being to open with his religion by going on pilgrimage to Israel. The same thing every single Muslim ex president and Governor, and former government officials like El Rufai are guilty of complete with full government subsidy.

But by far the most annoying thing about Jonathn's govt is that this is the first head of state to have any direct dealing with Isreal.
To the north Isreal is an enemy. Why? Because their Arab lords are currently at war with Isreal. Jonathan's friendship with Isreal is causing a diplomatic row between Nigeria and Arab countries like Saudi Arabi who traditionally relied on our support on the Palestinian cause than with that of the zionists.

According to the Muslim north, a relationship to Isreal is an embarrassment to them as Muslims. Consider this for a second. Saudi Arabia that they desperately want to keep as our friends will not admitt half of our population into their country based on the fact that they are not Muslims. This same Saudi has nothing to offer us or the rest of the world other than oil which we have as well but a nation like Isreal with the highest noble peace prize in all disciplines is to be considered an enemy.

The fact remains that the north for all her accusations on Jonathan being sectarian reminds me of the proverb of picking specks from another man's eyes when one has a log firmly wedged in his.

Hypocrites.


[size=16pt]We know muslims have sworn they will be the only ones ruling christians in Nigeria and will start Jihad if a christian becomes President.

It is either everyone is equal in this country or they should go and form their own:

Islamic republic of Arewa
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Re: Jonathan's Religion And NOT Politics Is Why They Want Him Out by forkinsonlolo(m): 2:09am On Nov 22, 2014
At op, which kinda reasoning is this?

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Re: Jonathan's Religion And NOT Politics Is Why They Want Him Out by ISpiksDaTroof: 2:15am On Nov 22, 2014
Everything you wrote shows that you're a divisive i*diot like your very wicked-minded President, I'll tell you why:


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MudRaker:
A caricatured picture of Jonathan kneeling down in Church complete with mocking text is circulated in social media by no other person than a prominent opposition figure. The joke if any was gleefully shared and retwitted among mainly northern Muslims who delighted at El Rufai's vulgar and distasteful attempt at making a joke. The backlash to this were not as the case would have been if it were a Muslim President praying in a mosque but was limited to verbal condemnation only.

Now the issue at hand is that we have had more Muslim presidents and who were exclusively from the north being pictured or televised worshiping in the mosque but no single critism from Christians was ever heard. Another disturbing fact is how so many northerners and prominent opposition figures view Jonathan's church going as being sectarian in nature even though past Muslim leaders were free to worship openly for some reason a Christian President kneeling down worshiping in church is seen as sectarian. Even though this administration has not introduced any discriminatory policy or sidelined the Muslim community they still accuse him of being sectarian because he openly practiced his religion freely as enshrined in the constitution.

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Why is the President on his Knees indirectly instigating religious divide and chaos? Nigeria is a secular state and as such even though the President is allowed to practice his religion, he's not permitted to alienate those that are not of his faith. Your President does exactly that!

Obama, McCain, Cameron, Tam David West and all other respectable People that have continuously criticized GEJ because of his crooked and inept ways are all Christians. Please tell me why that is.

MudRaker:

Speaking of constitutions, Nigeria is the only Nation that operates two sets of laws; the constitution of the Federal Republlc and that of the Islamic legal code, Sharia. If this is not sectarian then I don't know what to call it.
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You need to stop spreading lies, or, if you don't "know" go learn. Pick up a book.

Some form of Sharia Law is allowed in certain countries in Europe. As a Federal Republic, Nigerian states are allowed to make their own laws so long as they don't violate Federal Laws or the constitution. While I do not agree that Sharia law should cover Non-Civil cases, I believe I am right that States in the North are within their rights to establish their own laws which they wish to be governed by. Your obvious bigotry and dislike of their faith doesn't make you right.

MudRaker:

But by far the most annoying thing about Jonathn's govt is that this is the first head of state to have any direct dealing with Isreal.
To the north Isreal is an enemy. Why? Because their Arab lords are currently at war with Isreal. Jonathan's friendship with Isreal is causing a diplomatic row between Nigeria and Arab countries like Saudi Arabi who traditionally relied on our support on the Palestinian cause than with that of the zionists.

According to the Muslim north, a relationship to Isreal is an embarrassment to them as Muslims. Consider this for a second. Saudi Arabia that they desperately want to keep as our friends will not admitt half of our population into their country based on the fact that they are not Muslims. This same Saudi has nothing to offer us or the rest of the world other than oil which we have as well but a nation like Isreal with the highest noble peace prize in all disciplines is to be considered an enemy.



Whether Saudi Arabia or Israel: NEITHER COUNTRY GIVES TWO SHIIYTS ABOUT THAT CRAP YOU CALL A COUNTRY!!! Saudi Arabia will not all Nigerians into their country based on the fact that they are not muslims? So why don't you try getting into England, Israel or the United States just because you are Christian? Which Arab countries are encountering diplomatic rows with Nigeria because of this phantom "friendship" with Israel? Name just one country thats having issues with Nigeria because of GEJ's trip to Israel! Ignorant monkey, Israel "has the highest noble peace prize in all disciplines"?! Let me tell you a little secret since it seems most of you Africans are so dumb that if you don't kill yourselves with wars and diseases your inferiority complex just finishes y'all off from the insides:

WHEN SOUTH AFRICA WAS BATTLING APARTHEID, GUESS WHICH SIDE ISRAEL WAS ON?

WHEN THE U.N TRIED TO RATIFY LAWS BANNING RACISM, GUESS WHICH COUNTRY REFUSED TO VOTE---THEN WALKED OUT--- ALONG WITH THE U.S, CANADA, AND U.K?


The truth, OP, is you just showed your hate for Northerners and the Muslims in their midst. You are just as intolerant as your President. But, what astounds me is how you guys can't figure out that the same people you demonize (the Northerners and Westerners) are the ones that put GEJ in power AND WITHOUT THEM THIS TIME GEJ IS GOING BACK TO HIS VILLAGE IN 2015. I think most of you realize this thats why you're now very jittery. But, fo*olishly, instead of building alliances with others you're digging yourselves in a bigger hole by continuing to insult the North and the Yorubas. Bullying and intimidation didn't work so I guess its only right that you try to spread fear through hate.

I doubt it works this time especially since most Nigerians seem tired of your kind's obnoxiousness.

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Re: Jonathan's Religion And NOT Politics Is Why They Want Him Out by Yeske2(m): 2:46am On Nov 22, 2014
Dividing the polity with religion, the clueless one should be shoved off come 2015. Mind you, I'm Igbo living deep in the SE, for bigots and those who've sold their soul for a morsel of bread.

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Re: Jonathan's Religion And NOT Politics Is Why They Want Him Out by MudRaker: 6:33am On Nov 22, 2014
The message is clear.

All of you Muslim apologists and Taqiyya deceiving fanatics Know that what I wrote is the truth.

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Re: Jonathan's Religion And NOT Politics Is Why They Want Him Out by MudRaker: 6:52am On Nov 22, 2014
[size=18pt]Israeli Nigeria Relationship at a all time high[/size]

On a bright and sunny day in June, New York witnessed two solidarity rallies – one for the three Israeli teens kidnapped in Judea and Samaria, the other against terrorist group Boko Haram after it abducted 319 girls from a school in Chibok in northern Nigeria back in April. The two communities came together to pray for the safe return of both the Nigerian girls and Jewish boys to their families.

Sadly it was not to be, the Israeli teens were brutally murdered by Palestinian terrorists and the Nigerian schoolgirls are still being held by the radical Islamist group. A month before the rallies, Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu had sent military and intelligence hardware to Nigeria to help the army in its search for the missing schoolgirls. After the abduction of the Israeli youths, Nigerian President Goodluck Jonathan sent a letter to Netanyahu condemning the act and demanding their immediate release.

Nigeria and Israel have not always enjoyed such a healthy relationship.[b] In the aftermath of the 1973 Yom Kippur War, relations came to an abrupt end when Nigeria’s military government cut ties with Israel to comply with a resolution passed by the Organisation of African Unity, [/b]the precursor to the African Union set up in 1963. This marked an end to what had been a productive engagement by Israel in Nigeria’s development. Until then Nigerian farmers, educators, students, academics, doctors, community workers and engineers had received training in the Jewish state, and in turn Israel sent experts to help with the development and modernisation of the Sub-Saharan state. Relations between the two countries were not formally rekindled until 1992, and the following year Nigeria set up an embassy in Israel for the first time and Israel in Abuja.

Nigeria is the most heavily populated country in Africa and has the largest economy on the continent with an annual growth rate of 7.4 per cent. It is hardly surprising that Israel increasingly sees Nigeria as a viable economic and strategic partner. In 2006 the Ministries of Foreign Affairs of both countries signed a Memorandum of Understanding, which formalised the bilateral consultations on political issues between the two countries.

Today the two countries enjoy fruitful relations, with free flowing trade, commerce and collaboration in a number of areas. The relationship has further blossomed since President Goodluck Jonathan took office in 2010 and today Nigeria is in the top 20 destinations for Israeli exports. Between 2012 and 2013, Nigeria’s exports to Israel rose from $165m to $276m. There has also been reciprocal visits by high-level government officials and exchanges of technical and professional knowledge through MASHAV, the Israeli Centre for International Cooperation. The expectation is that the Bi-lateral Air Services Agreement, signed by the two countries last October, will make it easier for Israelis to invest in Nigeria, with travel time significantly reduced between the two countries as a result of direct flights. It is also hoped that the agreement will make it easier for Nigerians to travel to Israel, and Israelis the other way. A flight to Israel from Nigeria can cost up to $2,800 but Nigerian tourists still flock to Israel in impressive numbers. According to the Israeli Embassy in Nigeria, 31,570 Nigerians visited Israel in 2010, 50,620 in 2011 and 30,000 in 2012.

With Nigerian carrier Arik Air reportedly passing an Israeli security audit after the signing of the agreement, flying could about to get a whole lot easier for Nigerians. After the US, Nigeria has the highest number of pilgrims travelling to Israel annually. In 2012 and 2013 over 30,000 Christian pilgrims made the trip to Israel – and direct flights would make the journey affordable to hundreds of thousands more. In May, the head of the Nigerian Christian Pilgrim Commission, Kennedy Opara, said he was aiming at getting over 100,000 Nigerian pilgrims to Israel annually. The influx of pilgrims is a welcome boost to the Israeli economy, and numbers have not been affected by trigger events in the region. Israel’s former Ambassador to Nigeria Moshe Ram said that “the only steady components that go to Israel regardless of the security challenges are Nigerians.”

Today, over 50 Israeli companies actively operate in Nigeria, both directly and through joint ventures, in areas such as agriculture, construction, communications, hi-tech, infrastructure, water management, education and health. In 2013, President Jonathan became the first Nigerian president to visit Israel, where he visited religious sites in Jerusalem and Nazareth as a Christian pilgrim. At a historical meeting, both President Jonathan and Israel's then-President Shimon Peres paid homage to the relationship between the two nations. According to Urial Palti, Israel’s current Ambassador to Nigeria, the trip was crucial to cementing relations between the two countries, allowing the president to strike a personal relationship with the Israeli PM. The ambassador said the relationship was so strong that Netanyahu believes he can now rely on Nigerian support at the United Nations.

The Nigerian president also used his visit as an opportunity to strengthen economic relations between the two nations, and made requests for further Israeli investment in Nigerian healthcare, agriculture, electric power and supply and water management. Since 2010, Israel has committed to partnerships with Nigeria in healthcare and agricultural development. In January, Israel’s Agriculture Minister Yair Shamir and his Nigerian counterpart Dr Akinwumi Adesina signed a declaration for greater agricultural cooperation between the two nations. There are a number of Israeli corporations operating in the country, such as Motorola Israel, and the Nigerian-Israel Chamber of Commerce, based at the Israeli Embassy in Lagos, says that Nigerian businesses are also investing in Israel, with 5,000 Nigerian businesses and organisations scattered across the country.

Nigerian-Israeli relations are at an all-time high and set to flourish further, but with the 2015 General Election in Nigeria approaching, what would happen if President Jonathan’s People’s Democratic Party failed to get re-elected. Would a new President continue the goodwill? Would a Muslim President, from the north of Nigeria, continue the strong religious ties to Israel
? With so much at stake, there are nervous onlookers in both Abuja and Jerusalem.

The rally in New York showed the vulnerability of two people caught in the labyrinth of extremism with an enemy that threatens not only their values but their very existence. Israel may have not got their boys back alive but still hopes and prays that Nigeria recovers the girls safely. While it is inevitable that the threat of extremism is unlikely to fade fast it is even more pertinent for this new found solidarity and economic cooperation to flourish.

Muslims consider Isreal a rogue state over the Palestine issue that is far and removed from them.

The Arab league had relied on Nigeria's weight in dealing against Isreal in the UN but for some reason our northern Muslim brothers turned a blind eye on systematic genocide on their fellow black Africans in Sudan.

Those Arab Sudanese beggars you see on the streets of Lagos were admitted into Nigeria during the Shagari regime. These Arabs were portrayed as those suffering at the hands of the southern Christians in Sudan which is totally not the case as we have seen in Darfur and the menacing Janjawiids militia.

Today the President of Sudan has been indicted for war crimes but Sudan still operates 2 emissaries in Nigeria- one for the central Govt located in Abuja and another in Kano for the muslim caliphate.

If you think religion is not at the heart of Nigeria's internal politics and middle east and Arab diplomacy then you need to wake up.

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Re: Jonathan's Religion And NOT Politics Is Why They Want Him Out by sheddo619(m): 9:44am On Nov 22, 2014
MudRaker:


There is nothing Jonathan can do. The northern polity and politics is based on Islamic customs and ideology.

What do you think the Sultanate and Emirships are all about? These are Islamic institutions of governance.

The fabric of northern politics is tied and dyed in Islam.

First the said they must have sharia law. We gave them. Then they came with Islamic banking. Now they are asking for the presidency and are working night and day, utilizing every means possible to achieve this. Their demand for a power shift back to the north is not complete without a northern Muslim that is why we are witnessing only northern Muslims running for presidency.

Where are the Christian northerners?

The average northern Muslim will rather vote for an ibo man than have a kafir in the north rule them.

Look at Kaduna for example which had a Christian by default as governor, at his death Muslims in Kaduna jubilated on the streets.

This of course is enshrined in Islamic doctrine which forbides having a non Muslim rule over them.

The drama in the house is apparently looking more bi partisan with northern Muslims irrespective of party affiliation supporting Tambuwal.
God bless u sir,really dunno if u are livingin kd because dat was actually what happened, those guys were actually bombing almost every part of kd and attacking villages but after d demise of yakowa it all reduce drastically.this to me its all about religion not party.

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Re: Jonathan's Religion And NOT Politics Is Why They Want Him Out by MudRaker: 11:01am On Nov 22, 2014
sheddo619:
God bless u sir,really dunno if u are livingin kd because dat was actually what happened, those guys were actually bombing almost every part of kd and attacking villages but after d demise of yakowa it all reduce drastically.this to me its all about religion not party.

Unfortunately the jaundiced SW mafia press that has been heavily politisized never reported those bombings on christians

The foolish SW people that blindly call for a northern muslim president are oblivious to what is going on and for whatever daft reason they see themselves as equal partners with the caliphate even though the presidency has been since zoned to the north and the ceremonial vp isn't even guarranteed

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Re: Jonathan's Religion And NOT Politics Is Why They Want Him Out by atlwireles: 11:44am On Nov 22, 2014
It is always funny to read, people calling Jonathan a sectarian leader. I wonder what country they grew up in. How dare Jonathan practice his faith in their supposedly Islamic country. angry angry angry angry angry Yet, most of these town criers want to die for their united Nigeria. United doing what? undecided

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Re: Jonathan's Religion And NOT Politics Is Why They Want Him Out by donmalcolm21(m): 12:04pm On Nov 22, 2014
omokab:
Mr op you are the one putting all this on religion matters.A bigot like you will like to confuse people rather than say the truth.we have many muslim scholars in the North that no matter how they will vote for jonathan.And we also have many christains that will never vote for jonathan despite the fact that he is a christain.Just for your information people of nigeria were now wise to the extent that you can't confuse them with religion but at the same time you can still get some religion fools that their own is either being a muslim or a christain will never see good thing about others religion.At least you know many muslim in Jonathans govt that they are ready to die for jonathan to return as a president of Nigeria come 2015.I have a little advice for you use any other means to campain for jonathan but desist from religion matter because you will account for all your statement on the day of judgement.
. Until you understand the pattern of nigeria politics where the muslim north think they own the country and see the others as minorites, Stand up for religeous tolerance which GEJ is advocating.

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Re: Jonathan's Religion And NOT Politics Is Why They Want Him Out by LegatusGlaber(m): 1:31pm On Nov 22, 2014
9jii:
EASTERNERS POLITICS OF BIGOTRY. all these kind post are coming from baby factory.

I'm sure you are confusing your kind of politics with northern politics.
Mixing politics with religion is typical Nyamuri thing. Because you believe your pastors are gods. They dictate to you


Behold the zenith of f00lishness

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Re: Jonathan's Religion And NOT Politics Is Why They Want Him Out by omokab: 6:31pm On Nov 22, 2014
donmalcolm21:
. Until you understand the pattern of nigeria politics where the muslim north think they own the country and see the others as minorites, Stand up for religeous tolerance which GEJ is advocating.
pls I don't understand your argument that says muslim north don't want minority to be president.If there is any credible candidate among the christain in the north or anywhere you are thinking they should come out .I think people will be able to judge him if he or she qualify or not.Or are u telling me that there is no muskim in the south east and south south?why is ut that the muslim minority in those region have not been giving opportunity to become there gov.also u can check a state like jos and benue that have minoity,is there anytime the muslim have been given opportunity to become their gov.A state like jos with about 60 to 40 don't even have muslim aas their deputy gov.All this is not my concern ,m own is to have a credible candidate that is not base on religion.
Re: Jonathan's Religion And NOT Politics Is Why They Want Him Out by knowledgeable: 8:36pm On Nov 22, 2014
focus7:
You are making a mistake, many of us who wants Jonathan out are christians. Taking it from the religion angle that u are coming from, I will say we wants Jonathan out because he has betrayed christianity, he has failed to represent what christianity stand for which is integrity and justice. It is a shame to call Jonathan a christian because he has represented more evil than should be expected, it seems as though Jonathan now attends tutorial for evil practices.

Majority of Christians want Jonathan out in order to vote in ......emmm... Buhari, boko haram isis. ..... this logic doesn't add up to meoo.

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Re: Jonathan's Religion And NOT Politics Is Why They Want Him Out by meccuno: 1:30pm On Nov 24, 2014
MudRaker:
A caricatured picture of Jonathan kneeling down in Church complete with mocking text is circulated in social media by no other person than a prominent opposition figure. The joke if any was gleefully shared and retwitted among mainly northern Muslims who delighted at El Rufai's vulgar and distasteful attempt at making a joke. The backlash to this were not as the case would have been if it were a Muslim President praying in a mosque but was limited to verbal condemnation only.

Now the issue at hand is that we have had more Muslim presidents and who were exclusively from the north being pictured or televised worshiping in the mosque but no single critism from Christians was ever heard.

[img]http://3.bp..com/_AF229DcNgNI/SrduVYB0dZI/AAAAAAAAAFo/KQzEM9x064E/s320/prayer+2.jpg[/img]

Another disturbing fact is how so many northerners and prominent opposition figures view Jonathan's church going as being sectarian in nature even though past Muslim leaders were free to worship openly for some reason a Christian President kneeling down worshiping in church is seen as sectarian. Even though this administration has not introduced any discriminatory policy or sidelined the Muslim community they still accuse him of being sectarian because he openly practiced his religion freely as enshrined in the constitution.

Speaking of constitutions, Nigeria is the only Nation that operates two sets of laws; the constitution of the Federal Republlc and that of the Islamic legal code, Sharia. If this is not sectarian then I don't know what to call it.

The northern leaders did not consider other minority religions when they enacted Sharia law and the fallout riots that engulfed their region.. Even Boko Haram are fighting to forcefully impose Sharia law over the polity but to them this is not the issue but the fact that President Jonathan knelt down to worship in Church is unbecoming.

Jonathan is also accused of being to open with his religion by going on pilgrimage to Israel. The same thing every single Muslim ex president and Governor, and former government officials like El Rufai are guilty of complete with full government subsidy.

But by far the most annoying thing about Jonathn's govt is that this is the first head of state to have any direct dealing with Isreal.
To the north Isreal is an enemy. Why? Because their Arab lords are currently at war with Isreal. Jonathan's friendship with Isreal is causing a diplomatic row between Nigeria and Arab countries like Saudi Arabi who traditionally relied on our support on the Palestinian cause than with that of the zionists.

According to the Muslim north, a relationship to Isreal is an embarrassment to them as Muslims. Consider this for a second. Saudi Arabia that they desperately want to keep as our friends will not admitt half of our population into their country based on the fact that they are not Muslims. This same Saudi has nothing to offer us or the rest of the world other than oil which we have as well but a nation like Isreal with the highest noble peace prize in all disciplines is to be considered an enemy.

The fact remains that the north for all her accusations on Jonathan being sectarian reminds me of the proverb of picking specks from another man's eyes when one has a log firmly wedged in his.

Hypocrites.
I will find you anywhere just to get ur autograph.....u made a lot of sense

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Re: Jonathan's Religion And NOT Politics Is Why They Want Him Out by major466(m): 2:57pm On Nov 24, 2014
MudRaker:


There is nothing Jonathan can do. The northern polity and politics is based on Islamic customs and ideology.

What do you think the Sultanate and Emirships are all about? These are Islamic institutions of governance.

The fabric of northern politics is tied and dyed in Islam.

First the said they must have sharia law. We gave them. Then they came with Islamic banking. Now they are asking for the presidency and are working night and day, utilizing every means possible to achieve this. Their demand for a power shift back to the north is not complete without a northern Muslim that is why we are witnessing only northern Muslims running for presidency.

Where are the Christian northerners?

The average northern Muslim will rather vote for an ibo man than have a kafir in the north rule them.

Look at Kaduna for example which had a Christian by default as governor, at his death Muslims in Kaduna jubilated on the streets.

This of course is enshrined in Islamic doctrine which forbides having a non Muslim rule over them.

The drama in the house is apparently looking more bi partisan with northern Muslims irrespective of party affiliation supporting Tambuwal.
Am glad there are people like you who understand the Real nature and Mentality of the Northern Muslim. I admire the way Yoruba muslims conduct themselves as liberals. However, they must watch their back because Northern Muslim till date do not regard Yoruba Muslims as Real Muslims. They are being taken for a ride. To be used and dumped when the did is achieved. Boko Haram is a creation of born to rule elements who believe that if power does not come to them, Nigeria will not know peace.
We have videos of them saying that. Their imams preach nothing but HATE and EXTREME IDEOLOGY to their followers. Am telling you if you see the videos and the way they speak hatred and violence, you will wonder if these people are really human beings.

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Re: Jonathan's Religion And NOT Politics Is Why They Want Him Out by major466(m): 3:06pm On Nov 24, 2014
ISpiksDaTroof:
Everything you wrote shows that you're a divisive i*diot like your very wicked-minded President, I'll tell you why:


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Why is the President on his Knees indirectly instigating religious divide and chaos? Nigeria is a secular state and as such even though the President is allowed to practice his religion, he's not permitted to alienate those that are not of his faith. Your President does exactly that!

Obama, McCain, Cameron, Tam David West and all other respectable People that have continuously criticized GEJ because of his crooked and inept ways are all Christians. Please tell me why that is.

You need to stop spreading lies, or, if you don't "know" go learn. Pick up a book.

Some form of Sharia Law is allowed in certain countries in Europe. As a Federal Republic, Nigerian states are allowed to make their own laws so long as they don't violate Federal Laws or the constitution. While I do not agree that Sharia law should cover Non-Civil cases, I believe I am right that States in the North are within their rights to establish their own laws which they wish to be governed by. Your obvious bigotry and dislike of their faith doesn't make you right.




Whether Saudi Arabia or Israel: NEITHER COUNTRY GIVES TWO SHIIYTS ABOUT THAT CRAP YOU CALL A COUNTRY!!! Saudi Arabia will not all Nigerians into their country based on the fact that they are not muslims? So why don't you try getting into England, Israel or the United States just because you are Christian? Which Arab countries are encountering diplomatic rows with Nigeria because of this phantom "friendship" with Israel? Name just one country thats having issues with Nigeria because of GEJ's trip to Israel! Ignorant monkey, Israel "has the highest noble peace prize in all disciplines"?! Let me tell you a little secret since it seems most of you Africans are so dumb that if you don't kill yourselves with wars and diseases your inferiority complex just finishes y'all off from the insides:

WHEN SOUTH AFRICA WAS BATTLING APARTHEID, GUESS WHICH SIDE ISRAEL WAS ON?

WHEN THE U.N TRIED TO RATIFY LAWS BANNING RACISM, GUESS WHICH COUNTRY REFUSED TO VOTE---THEN WALKED OUT--- ALONG WITH THE U.S, CANADA, AND U.K?


The truth, OP, is you just showed your hate for Northerners and the Muslims in their midst. You are just as intolerant as your President. But, what astounds me is how you guys can't figure out that the same people you demonize (the Northerners and Westerners) are the ones that put GEJ in power AND WITHOUT THEM THIS TIME GEJ IS GOING BACK TO HIS VILLAGE IN 2015. I think most of you realize this thats why you're now very jittery. But, fo*olishly, instead of building alliances with others you're digging yourselves in a bigger hole by continuing to insult the North and the Yorubas. Bullying and intimidation didn't work so I guess its only right that you try to spread fear through hate.

I doubt it works this time especially since most Nigerians seem tired of your kind's obnoxiousness.
RUBBISH.

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Re: Jonathan's Religion And NOT Politics Is Why They Want Him Out by major466(m): 3:16pm On Nov 24, 2014
MudRaker:
The message is clear.

All of you Muslim apologists and Taqiyya deceiving fanatics Know that what I wrote is the truth.

They know. The Muslims fanatics among them know that's why they invented Boko Haram to displace the Christian population of the north with the intention of reducing their population and they use foreign terrorist parading as Fulani to ransack villages across the middle belt. They desperately want to eliminate those who know their TRUE nature as Born To Rule Terrorist.
Unfortunately for them not all muslims support them. There are muslims who will rather have a Christian as President than have one of their own whom they fully know is a religious fundamentalist. Many muslims cherish freedom just as much as we do and will do everything possible to ensure that freedom prevails for every Nigerian whether Muslim or Christian.

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Re: Jonathan's Religion And NOT Politics Is Why They Want Him Out by haykay33: 3:33pm On Nov 24, 2014
i thought Obasanjo was and still a Christian and was suppoerted mostly by Northners....
Re: Jonathan's Religion And NOT Politics Is Why They Want Him Out by sheddo619(m): 5:33pm On Nov 27, 2014
MudRaker:


Unfortunately the jaundiced SW mafia press that has been heavily politisized never reported those bombings on christians

The foolish SW people that blindly call for a northern muslim president are oblivious to what is going on and for whatever daft reason they see themselves as equal partners with the caliphate even though the presidency has been since zoned to the north and the ceremonial vp isn't even guarranteed
sir have u heard a mssg from pastor bosun emmanuel of redeemed church ?
Re: Jonathan's Religion And NOT Politics Is Why They Want Him Out by dayocash: 6:56pm On Nov 27, 2014
Most Christians accuse Gen. Muhammad Buhari of
Islamic fundamentalism, even when the man can't
even remember the last time he visited Saudi
Arabia for Hajj. This is moreso that most Muslims
view him as a liberalist and secular.
All these accusations are coming at a time when
Goodluck Jonathan, a sitting President is
frequenting Israel and various non-coherent
churches in the country for acceptance as the
church's annointed candidate, and this is
considered normal and a birth-right by the
christians.
In short, to become a Nigerian president, a Muslim
must be a sell-out and secular, while Christian must
be seen associating with the church.
This is how evil democracy is.

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Re: Jonathan's Religion And NOT Politics Is Why They Want Him Out by chamboy(m): 7:51pm On Nov 27, 2014
pls dont start any religious war here.... Am a christian and i want GEJ off for good
Re: Jonathan's Religion And NOT Politics Is Why They Want Him Out by GworoChewinMaga: 10:51pm On Feb 25, 2016
ogbronx:
The thing tire me oh! So pple still reason like the op? Christian verses Muslims ? The op is an example of those whom our corrupt, greedy and wicked politicians capitalize on for partisan politics. Who even is a christian ? one that tolerates corruption ? one who is prone to being mean on the masses or he that fears his godfathers more than helpless citizens?
If gej were a Christian, he wouldn't be president in the first place.
NB, most of these new monikers( maybe PDP hired) are really brainless and have turned nairaland to a cesspool. Its a damn shame!

Myopic frog keep basking in that warm water
Re: Jonathan's Religion And NOT Politics Is Why They Want Him Out by GworoChewinMaga: 10:54pm On Feb 25, 2016
dayocash:
Most Christians accuse Gen. Muhammad Buhari of
Islamic fundamentalism, even when the man can't
even remember the last time he visited Saudi
Arabia for Hajj. This is moreso that most Muslims
view him as a liberalist and secular.
All these accusations are coming at a time when
Goodluck Jonathan, a sitting President is
frequenting Israel and various non-coherent
churches in the country for acceptance as the
church's annointed candidate, and this is
considered normal and a birth-right by the
christians.
In short, to become a Nigerian president, a Muslim
must be a sell-out and secular, while Christian must
be seen associating with the church.
This is how evil democracy is.

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Re: Jonathan's Religion And NOT Politics Is Why They Want Him Out by donmalcolm21(m): 10:25pm On Mar 31, 2017
Everything came to the fore in the evening.



We shouted from rooftop but they didn't listen. The Christians are getting it full dose today

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Re: Jonathan's Religion And NOT Politics Is Why They Want Him Out by GworoChewinMaga: 12:05pm On Jun 17, 2017
donmalcolm21:
Everything came to the fore in the evening.



We shouted from rooftop but they didn't listen. The Christians are getting it full dose today

even if God had sent all the prophets back to earth to warn them they wouldnt have taken heed of their warnings
Re: Jonathan's Religion And NOT Politics Is Why They Want Him Out by ImadeUReadThis: 12:06pm On Jan 07, 2018
dayocash:
Most Christians accuse Gen. Muhammad Buhari of
Islamic fundamentalism, even when the man can't
even remember the last time he visited Saudi
Arabia for Hajj. This is moreso that most Muslims
view him as a liberalist and secular.
All these accusations are coming at a time when
Goodluck Jonathan, a sitting President is
frequenting Israel and various non-coherent
churches in the country for acceptance as the
church's annointed candidate, and this is
considered normal and a birth-right by the
christians.
In short, to become a Nigerian president, a Muslim
must be a sell-out and secular, while Christian must
be seen associating with the church.
This is how evil democracy is.

Do you still hold this same view ?
Re: Jonathan's Religion And NOT Politics Is Why They Want Him Out by AntiBalaka: 10:23am On Aug 11, 2019
The fools in this thread are not complaining of Buhari and Aisha's bi-annual Hajj trips.
Re: Jonathan's Religion And NOT Politics Is Why They Want Him Out by FarahAideed: 10:24am On Aug 11, 2019
dayocash:
Most Christians accuse Gen. Muhammad Buhari of
Islamic fundamentalism, even when the man can't
even remember the last time he visited Saudi
Arabia for Hajj. This is moreso that most Muslims
view him as a liberalist and secular.
All these accusations are coming at a time when
Goodluck Jonathan, a sitting President is
frequenting Israel and various non-coherent
churches in the country for acceptance as the
church's annointed candidate, and this is
considered normal and a birth-right by the
christians.
In short, to become a Nigerian president, a Muslim
must be a sell-out and secular, while Christian must
be seen associating with the church.
This is how evil democracy is.

How market

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Re: Jonathan's Religion And NOT Politics Is Why They Want Him Out by AntiBalaka: 10:30am On Aug 11, 2019
dayocash:
Most Christians accuse Gen. Muhammad Buhari of
Islamic fundamentalism, even when the man can't
even remember the last time he visited Saudi
Arabia for Hajj. This is moreso that most Muslims
view him as a liberalist and secular.
All these accusations are coming at a time when
Goodluck Jonathan, a sitting President is
frequenting Israel and various non-coherent
churches in the country for acceptance as the
church's annointed candidate, and this is
considered normal and a birth-right by the
christians.
In short, to become a Nigerian president, a Muslim
must be a sell-out and secular, while Christian must
be seen associating with the church.
This is how evil democracy is.

How about that his daughter that converted to Christianity and married an Igbo man and currently living a quiet life in Enugu?

Bloody liars.

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