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Re: APC: Road Map To A New Nigeria. by Nobody: 1:19pm On Nov 30, 2014
mikeansy:


Will he pluck money from air?

How will he pay for it?

Oil prices are crashing!
Lagos budget can run without oil allocation, thanks to APC. Go figure

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Re: APC: Road Map To A New Nigeria. by Nobody: 1:22pm On Nov 30, 2014
barcanista:
with oil price of $75 dollar, and an executive with sound fiscal policies, executive responsibility and backed with excellent monetary policy of the CBN, the government will achieve and even surpass all those listed on the blueprint. Nigeria is only experiencing crises because of the BAD policies and insincerity of the government

Show us the maths

Not wishes.

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Re: APC: Road Map To A New Nigeria. by pendy179: 1:32pm On Nov 30, 2014
mikeansy:


Have u seen the debt profile of Lagos relative to other states? Inspite of all of Fashola's penchant for looking for all avenues to tax the public?

This is why it is important that promises are backed by clear plans to pay for it.

If given unlimited resources we can all build Utopias. But unfortunately our resources are limited!

Have you seen the debt profile of the United States compared to other countries in the world?

Why do you think the USA and Lagos both had AA+ ratings by Fitch.

You dont know economics and how debt to potentials ratios are calculated and analyzed. A good and shrewd businessman invest with other people's monies and benefit himself and others. If you don't know ask warren Buffet and Donald Trump.

Lagos has more on ground that is more than its debts 10x over. America has over $1trillion debt and just raise their debt/loan ceiling to take more loan. Can Nigeria with lower debt compare to America ?
Only ignorant people talk about loan taking as a debt, loan is a good source of revenue of it is used for purpose meant and serviced well.

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Re: APC: Road Map To A New Nigeria. by Nobody: 1:34pm On Nov 30, 2014
Here them say oh their national manifesto is based on Lagos achievement but refused to project the very man who oversaw the "achievement" in Lagos.

It seems to me that even APC does not even believe in their own pilot government

Talk about a party without convictions!

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Re: APC: Road Map To A New Nigeria. by Nobody: 1:34pm On Nov 30, 2014
pendy179:


Have you seen the debt profile of the United States compared to other countries in the world?

Why do you think the USA and Lagos both had AA+ ratings by Fitch.

You dont know economics and how debt to potentials ratios are calculated and analyzed. A good and shrewd businessman invest with other people's monies and benefit himself and others. If you don't know ask warren Buffet and Donald Trump.

Lagos has more on ground that is more than its debts 10x over. America has over $1trillion debt and just raise their debt/loan ceiling to take more loan. Can Nigeria with lower debt compare to America ?
Only ignorant people talk about loan taking as a debt, loan is a good source of revenue of it is used for purpose meant and serviced well.
Honestly the way these guys ask silly questions, you will wonder what village they crawled out from.

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Re: APC: Road Map To A New Nigeria. by Nobody: 1:39pm On Nov 30, 2014
pendy179:


Have you seen the debt profile of the United States compared to other countries in the world?

Why do you think the USA and Lagos both had AA+ ratings by Fitch.

You dont know economics and how debt to potentials ratios are calculated and analyzed. A good and shrewd businessman invest with other people's monies and benefit himself and others. If you don't know ask warren Buffet and Donald Trump.

Lagos has more on ground that is more than its debts 10x over. America has over $1trillion debt and just raise their debt/loan ceiling to take more loan. Can Nigeria with lower debt compare to America ?
Only ignorant people talk about loan taking as a debt, loan is a good source of revenue of it is used for purpose meant and serviced well.

Ok APC should show us the maths

Will they borrow money to pay for their programmes? Let them say so!

Will they raise taxes to pay for their programmes? They should also say so clearly.

The electorate needs to know these things in order to make an informed choice!

Basing you economic plan on digging up natural resources and unpredictable oil prices does not sound like a roadmap to me!

The days when people hoodwink Nigerians with platitudes are gone!

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Re: APC: Road Map To A New Nigeria. by Gbawe2: 1:42pm On Nov 30, 2014
On better management of Nigeria's natural resources:


Better Manage Our Natural Resources
Nigeria is blessed with a wealth of natural resources,
from its oil and gas to reserves to minerals such as
iron ore, coal, tin, zinc and limestone.
These precious natural resources belong to the
Nigerian people and must be managed in a way
that improves lives and ensures their availability for
future generations.

APC’s Roadmap for Managing Our Natural Resources Includes:
◾ Make sure people at a local level benefit from mining
and mineral wealth by vesting all mineral rights in land
to states.
◾ Protect people from dangerous pollution by enforcing
laws to end gas flaring. This will reduce air pollution and
make sure that gas is not wasted and can be sold at
a lower cost.
◾ Halt the pollution of rivers and waterways in the Niger
Delta and other parts of the country and adopt a
comprehensive approach to erosion and shoreline
protection across the country.
◾ Reverse the effects of the expanding desert by
creating shelterbelts in states bordering the Sahara
Desert.



On Peace, security and foreign policy:

Strengthen Peace, Security and Foreign Policy

Peace and security are fundamental to Nigeria’s social
and economic wellbeing. Every Nigerian should be safe
and free to work in any part of the country regardless
of tribe, ethnicity, or religious beliefs.
Our law enforcement agencies face significant challenges
on many fronts: terrorism, especially in the Northeast,
unresolved high-profile homicides and the rise in new crimes
such as kidnapping, abductions and cyber-crime. The result
is an international perception of Nigeria as a failing state
where violent crime, corruption and fraud are rife.

APC’s Roadmap for Peace, Security and Foreign Policy Includes:
◾ Enable states to have their own local police forces that address
the special needs of each community, including community policing
initiatives that restore trust among local citizens.
◾ Establishing a serious crime squad with state-of-the-art training
and equipment to combat terrorism, militancy and ethno-religious
communal clashes.
◾ Provide a comprehensive compensation plan for victims of ethnoreligious
crisis, communal clashes and terrorism.
◾ Initiate a national reconciliation and healing plan, beginning with
a truth and reconciliation commission on ethno-religious clashes,
ensure the teaching in our schools of religious tolerance and public
demonstrations of religious & ethnic tolerance by public officials
◾ Reform and strengthen the Justice System for faster, more
efficient justice in cases of terrorism, corruption, kidnapping, drug
trafficking and similar cases of national importance.
◾ Make regional integration a priority within ECOWAS, including free
trade, to ensure that a common tariff and currency are achieved
by 2020 under Nigeria’s guidance and leadership.
◾ Maintain strong, close and frank relationships within the Gulf of
Guinea, the Commonwealth, South Africa and the rest of the
world in pursuit of foreign policy that promotes our national
interest,
◾ Establish a new special relationship with leading emerging
markets such as Brazil, Russia, India and China (BRIC) and also
the new MINT countries of Mexico, Indonesia and Turkey, as well
as other strategic partners around the world to create jobs and
promote economic growth in Nigeria.
Re: APC: Road Map To A New Nigeria. by donphilopus: 1:44pm On Nov 30, 2014
mikeansy:
Here them say oh their national manifesto is based on Lagos achievement but refused to project the very man who oversaw the "achievement" in Lagos.

It seems to me that even APC does not even believe in their own pilot government

Talk about a party without convictions!


Even if APC wants to field Fashola as their VP Candidate, would bigots like you support him?! APC hasn't even conducted its Presidential Primaries and some people are already saying NO to Muslim/Muslim ticket.

Let's even forget the VP Slot and go for the Presidential Ticket. Is Fashola contesting?! Even if he's contesting, would many people not say Obasanjo from the SW ruled Nigeria for 8yrs and Fashola from the same SW wants to rule again?! Many regions would complain of marginalization!

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Re: APC: Road Map To A New Nigeria. by Nobody: 1:50pm On Nov 30, 2014
donphilopus:


Even if APC wants to field Fashola as their VP Candidate, would bigots like you support him?! APC hasn't even conducted its Presidential Primaries and some people are already saying NO to Muslim/Muslim ticket.

Let's even forget the VP Slot and go for the Presidential Ticket. Is Fashola contesting?! Even if he's contesting, would many people not say Obasanjo from the SW ruled Nigeria for 8yrs and Fashola from the same SW wants to rule again?! Many regions would complain of marginalization!

Lol @ "bigots like you"

Anyway I only respond to serious people

When you learn to word your argument like an adult then we can talk.

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Re: APC: Road Map To A New Nigeria. by Nobody: 1:57pm On Nov 30, 2014
I am impressed!

That's all!!

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Re: APC: Road Map To A New Nigeria. by donphilopus: 2:04pm On Nov 30, 2014
mikeansy:


Lol @ "bigots like you"

Anyway I only respond to serious people

When you learn to word your argument like an adult then we can talk.

I knew you wouldn't agree to that. Ok. Lemme be a little bit calm sir. If Fashola is given the APC VP Slot when Buhari wins the Presidential Ticket, would you vote them since you've agreed he's a performer?! Wouldn't you say they want to islamize this country?! We all know some people especially from the SS/SE are saying they won't vote a Muslim/Muslim ticket.

If Fashola also contests the APC Presidential Primaries and wins the ticket, would you vote him?! I'm asking this because some people believe that Obasanjo from the SW ruled Nigeria for 8yrs and they wouldn't want another person from that region (SW) become the President for now. Won't they complain of marginalization?!

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Re: APC: Road Map To A New Nigeria. by Descartes: 2:07pm On Nov 30, 2014
Theoretical!!!
Re: APC: Road Map To A New Nigeria. by Nobody: 2:12pm On Nov 30, 2014
donphilopus:


I knew you wouldn't agree to that. Ok. Lemme be a little bit calm sir. If Fashola is given the APC VP Slot when Buhari wins the Presidential Ticket, would you vote them since you've agreed he's a performer?! Wouldn't you say they want to islamize this country?! We all know some people especially from the SS/SE are saying they won't vote a Muslim/Muslim ticket.

If Fashola also contests the APC Presidential Primaries and wins the ticket, would you vote him?! I'm asking this because some people believe that Obasanjo from the SW ruled Nigeria for 8yrs and they wouldn't want another person from that region (SW) become the President for now. Won't they complain of marginalization?!

I will vote for President Fashola because I have said so many times on this site that even though I don't agree with everything he does I believe that he is one of the most brilliant politicians of this generation!

But I will not vote for VP Fashola and get a President Buhari because you can put a lipstick on a pig? It's still a pig!

Watch Lagos vote against Buhari in the election even if Fashola is his VP!

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Re: APC: Road Map To A New Nigeria. by donphilopus: 2:25pm On Nov 30, 2014
mikeansy:


I will vote for President Fashola because I have said so many times on this site that even though I don't agree with everything he does I believe that he is one of the most brilliant politicians of this generation!

But I will not vote for VP Fashola and get a President Buhari because you can put a lipstick on a pig? It's still a pig!

Watch Lagos vote against Buhari in the election even if Fashola is his VP!

What happened in 2011 wouldn't repeat itself come next year. Many Lagosians believed that Jonathan was the messiah then, they all voted him. Since he has shown them his true person, they'd never try that again. He won't be able to win most SW States he won in 2011 because he's divided Nigerians with his ethnic/religious card!

If APC fields a popular person from the SW as their VP, they'd massively win the region. But, if they field Fashola, I'd advise GEJ to consider there a no-go region because they would all go out en masse and vote Fashola!
Re: APC: Road Map To A New Nigeria. by Nobody: 2:45pm On Nov 30, 2014
donphilopus:


What happened in 2011 wouldn't repeat itself come next year. Many Lagosians believed that Jonathan was the messiah then, they all voted him. Since he has shown them his true person, they'd never try that again. He won't be able to win most SW States he won in 2011 because he's divided Nigerians with his ethnic/religious card!

If APC fields a popular person from the SW as their VP, they'd massively win the region. But, if they field Fashola, I'd advise GEJ to consider there a no-go region because they would all go out en masse and vote Fashola!

Lol, the South West is smarter than that!

Jonathan's worst records in the last 4years pales in comparison to Buhari's 30years of records

Again I say it as I have said before, the people of South West are too civilised and enlightened to vote a 76year old former Military Dictator as President in 2015. Buhari can go and wake Awolowo from grave and make him his running mate if he likes he still wont win the South West.

APC needs to learn political calculation, they are getting it wrong again!

I wanted an opposition that will give PDP a run for their money but this election is looking like a cakewalk for PDP because of this Buhari nonsense.

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Re: APC: Road Map To A New Nigeria. by Mogidi: 2:52pm On Nov 30, 2014
Obiagelli:

Honestly the way these guys ask silly questions, you will wonder what village they crawled out from.

This woman never cease to amaze, asking how a Buhari government would run the economy is now a silly question.

This cements my belief that those promoting this absurd Bukohari identifies with his absurdity, birds of same feather.

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Re: APC: Road Map To A New Nigeria. by donphilopus: 3:06pm On Nov 30, 2014
mikeansy:


Lol, the South West is smarter than that!

Jonathan's worst records in the last 4years pales in comparison to Buhari's 30years of records

Again I say it as I have said before, the people of South West are too civilised and enlightened to vote a 76year old former Military Dictator as President in 2015. Buhari can go and wake Awolowo from grave and make him his running mate if he likes he still wont win the South West.

APC needs to learn political calculation, they are getting it wrong again!

I wanted an opposition that will give PDP a run for their money but this election is looking like a cakewalk for PDP because of this Buhari nonsense.

I dislike seeing stuffs like Candidates that would make PDP run for their money. It's visible to the blind and audible to the deaf that PDP wants to try everything humanly possible to ensure that Buhari does not get the APC ticket because if he does, they know how the election is gonna be.

Most Southerners didn't know who Buhari was around 2011 when he contested under a new Party, CPC. Atiku, alongside Buhari have contested the same election before around 2007 and we all know what happened. Yaradua came 1st, Buhari came 2nd, while Atiku came distant 3rd, regardless of the fact that Yaradua himself confirmed himself that the election was massively rigged. Even as 'wretched' as Buhari was, he was still able to have 3 against Yaradua's 4 in the Supreme Court, while the extra rich Atiku managed to get 1, while Yaradua trashed him with about 5. If Buhari has got 4 then, I'm very certain he would have been in his second term as the President.

Apart from Buhari, I don't think there's anybody capable of defeating GEJ easily. Tambuwal only enjoys the sympathy of people, he can't defeat GEJ. An average Yoruba, Igbo, Urhobo, Bini, Itshekiri, Ijaw man does not know who Kwankwaso is, as such, he wouldn't be able to win. Even in the North, he's not too know. As for Atiku, his reputation has far gone. Buhari is the only person who can bring change. And I'm happy he's universally accepted.

Go confirm from anyone who resides in Edo. Almost all the Hausa/Fulanis were not seen in the market yesterday. They decided to close down their shops and go welcome Buhari in Benin yesterday. They love him more than their children. That can't be said of other APC top Presidential Aspirants!

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Re: APC: Road Map To A New Nigeria. by major466(m): 3:08pm On Nov 30, 2014
◾ Pursue legislation expanding forfeiture and seizure of assets laws and procedure
with respect to inexplicable wealth, regardless of whether there is a conviction
for criminal conduct or not.
A recipe for disaster.

◾ Strengthen legal provisions to prevent stay of proceedings and other delays in
corruption trials.
How is the APC government going to implement that knowing fully well the Judiciary is an independent arm of government just like the Legislature?

◾ Provide allowances to discharged but unemployed Youth Corps members for 12 months
This package is socialist in nature and will increase corruption in double fold. The aim is to make young people dependent on government. A perfect example to show that APC is a pro Big Government party.

◾ Encourage State Governments to focus on employment creation
by matching every one job created by the State Government
through funding with two jobs created by the Federal
Government in the same state.
What kind of job are we talking about? This doesn't make any sense.



The only thing that will fix Nigeria permanently for Good is TRUE FEDERALISM. Thank God the recently concluded national conference acknowledged that in their reports. Instead of planning Jamboree policies that are easier said than done, why can't the APC call for True Federalism?

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Re: APC: Road Map To A New Nigeria. by Sirniyeh(m): 3:30pm On Nov 30, 2014
Gbawe2:


Thank you my sister. Excuses,excuses. They will shout all day that "they have no manifesto or plans for Nigeria". Show them such, as I make the deliberate effort to do, and the excuses will become something else. Anyway,we have no time for enemies of progress. This is the time to highlight the plans of the APC without entertaining distractions from TANdroids and Jona-stooges.

Mr Man, relax! Don't mind those educated ignorants who are destined to perish with cluelessness. Nigeria is of the Lord and the fullness thereof, for APC has been anointed to deliver and take to promise land.

All jona-stooges and TANdroids should go and perish
Re: APC: Road Map To A New Nigeria. by Nobody: 3:33pm On Nov 30, 2014
Gbawe2:


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Re: APC: Road Map To A New Nigeria. by nigerianvenom(m): 3:33pm On Nov 30, 2014
GogetterMD:

You can't trust a "coup plotter" to implement this blueprint but you will trust a tested, proven and failed drunk otuoke fisherman to implement it ba Yeye dey smell

its ur ddad that is drunk

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Re: APC: Road Map To A New Nigeria. by nigerianvenom(m): 3:40pm On Nov 30, 2014
mikeansy:
No detailed plan of how they will pay for these development

They are hoping our oil money will be enough without a detailed analysis or forecast of how much the country will earn in revenue under them and what can be accomplished using the revenue.

Nothing new in this so called "roadmap"

Just same old tales of promises without clear plan to pay for it!

no clear cut point in the above"roadmap",just a recycled non existing ideas
Re: APC: Road Map To A New Nigeria. by nigerianvenom(m): 3:45pm On Nov 30, 2014
mikeansy:


Ok APC should show us the maths

Will they borrow money to pay for their programmes? Let them say so!

Will they raise taxes to pay for their programmes? They should also say so clearly.

The electorate needs to know these things in order to make an informed choice!

Basing you economic plan on digging up natural resources and unpredictable oil prices does not sound like a roadmap to me!

The days when people hoodwink Nigerians with platitudes are gone!

i wish i could see u to give u a hand shake.
Re: APC: Road Map To A New Nigeria. by Ovamboland(m): 5:55pm On Nov 30, 2014
Gbawe2:
On Social welfare:


APC’s Roadmap for Social Welfare Includes:
◾ Implement a phased Social Security Benefits Scheme for the unemployed
and vulnerable, beginning with poor disabled and poor elderly citizens.
◾Direct conditional monthly cash transfers of NGN5,000 to the 25
million poorest and most vulnerable citizens upon demonstration of
children’s enrolment in school and immunization, to help promote job
empowerment.

This social security scheme will cost a mere 1.25 billion monthly which translates to only 15 Billion a year.
And this will give 25 million poor Nigerians some life line to at least manage to live like a human being.
Imagine what all the 50 Billion, 100 Billion, I trillion that disappeared under this government or used for phantom subsidy payment could have done if properly channeled to proper use.

Diezani's private jet bill of 10 Billion within a year could have funded 2/3 of this scheme for 25 million Nigerians, we are really a nation of wasters.
Re: APC: Road Map To A New Nigeria. by Gbawe2: 6:15pm On Nov 30, 2014
Ovamboland:




This social security scheme will cost a mere 1.25 billion monthly which translates to only 15 Billion a year.
And this will give 25 million poor Nigerians some life line to at least manage to live like a human being.
Imagine what all the 50 Billion, 100 Billion, I trillion that disappeared under this government or used for phantom subsidy payment could have done if properly channeled to proper use.

Diezani's private jet bill of 10 Billion within a year could have funded 2/3 of this scheme for 25 million Nigerians, we are really a nation of wasters.

Indeed. This is why I have no time, on this thread, for pseudo-intellectual mischief-makers masking as erudite and objective critics. Do some wannabe analysts know what corruption,lack of accountability/transparency and profligate/bloated governance cost Nigeria yearly? The monumental sum stolen via the fuel subsidy scam alone ($6.8 billion shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked ) could comfortably fund a social security scheme , as part of broad reforms to usher in a new Nigeria of empowered and productive citizens, for a substantial length of time !!!!! And we have not even factored in the billions and billions of dollars an austere and committed President/government could save Nigeria by initiating broad and sincere cost-cutting reforms and absolute insistence on judicious use of public funds everywhere !!!

Literally ,and in simplifying issues, many,many billions of dollars will become available to spend on Nigerians when we gain a President, like Buhari, who genuinely believes the wealth of a nation should be spent on her people and not on a small and rapacious Oligarchic class of callously anti-people opportunists. To that end, I personally have no time to waste on senseless back-and-forth arguments with apologists of this woeful government or those who cannot see that we have sunk as low as we can go and thus need change urgently or fail as a nation.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/05/13/us-nigeria-subsidy-graft-idUSBRE84C08N20120513


Factbox: Nigeria's $6.8 billion fuel subsidy scam
Sun May 13, 2012 10:56am EDT


(Reuters) - A $6.8 billion fuel subsidy fraud scandal is heaping pressure on Nigerian President Goodluck Jonathan to prosecute top officials or face protests, but many of those implicated are allies he is unlikely to go after if wants to keep his power base intact.

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Re: APC: Road Map To A New Nigeria. by vedaxcool(m): 6:27pm On Nov 30, 2014
Seun pls do the needful and place this thread on the frontpage immediately!

My fear is that a certain popular drunkard might thief this sterling ideas just to deceive people for 2015!

Anyway GEJ till 2014.

Vote wisely vote for change vote APC 2015
Re: APC: Road Map To A New Nigeria. by Curlieweed: 6:39pm On Nov 30, 2014
major466:
A recipe for disaster.

How is the APC government going to implement that knowing fully well the Judiciary is an independent arm of government just like the Legislature?

This package is socialist in nature and will increase corruption in double fold. The aim is to make young people dependent on government. A perfect example to show that APC is a pro Big Government party.

What kind of job are we talking about? This doesn't make any sense.



The only thing that will fix Nigeria permanently for Good is TRUE FEDERALISM. Thank God the recently concluded national conference acknowledged that in their reports. Instead of planning Jamboree policies that are easier said than done, why can't the APC call for True Federalism?

You get time to dey analyze typical Apeeshit senseless, contradictory, "say-anything" gimmick. They had Tam-Barawo, a Janjawid in sheep's clothing in the House for 4 years and neither he nor the other Apeeshit dogs and baboons saw it fit to even propose any of these "kwarauption" fighting laws. It's only when we are duped into voting them into the executive that they would start earning their pay.

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Re: APC: Road Map To A New Nigeria. by Caseless: 6:46pm On Nov 30, 2014
Wont rather bank with apc....
Re: APC: Road Map To A New Nigeria. by yokiti: 6:48pm On Nov 30, 2014
With patriotic leaders and right attitude, Nigeria shall rise again.
Re: APC: Road Map To A New Nigeria. by Curlieweed: 6:50pm On Nov 30, 2014
Ovamboland:




This social security scheme will cost a mere 1.25 billion monthly which translates to only 15 Billion a year.
And this will give 25 million poor Nigerians some life line to at least manage to live like a human being.
Imagine what all the 50 Billion, 100 Billion, I trillion that disappeared under this government or used for phantom subsidy payment could have done if properly channeled to proper use.

Diezani's private jet bill of 10 Billion within a year could have funded 2/3 of this scheme for 25 million Nigerians, we are really a nation of wasters.

Little Maths update:

N5,000 X 25,000,000 = 125,000,000,000 ( that is 125 Billion Naira) or N1.5 Trillion annually. That means that an Apeeshit government (our ancestors forbid the abomination) will be using over 33% of the Federal Budget (caN4.5 billion) to pay people to sit at home doing fcukk all.
Re: APC: Road Map To A New Nigeria. by Ovamboland(m): 8:09pm On Nov 30, 2014
Curlieweed:


Little Maths update:

N5,000 X 25,000,000 = 125,000,000,000 ( that is 125 Billion Naira) or N1.5 Trillion annually. That means that an Apeeshit government (our ancestors forbid the abomination) will be using over 33% of the Federal Budget (caN4.5 billion) to pay people to sit at home doing fcukk all.


Thanks for the correction, this is not feasible, however the annual budget is about 4.5 trillion

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