Was Jesus born on December 25? Is December 25 Jesus' birthday? How did December 25 get chosen as the day to celebrate the birth of Jesus?

- http://www.gotquestions.org/December-25.html

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No, he was born in March. December 25th has been debunked for a long time.

He was born sometime around October.

Christmas remains a mystery to me.

sorry to disappoint u cos Jesus wasn't born

That guy above me nailed it....and that babe who wrote march is basically assumption by some scholars,august is way out of it but the TRUTH is no jesus was born...pope Julius the first of the catholic church came up with the december 25th fairy tale and martin luther king dad came up with the Xmas tree while,British successful business men came up with annual carnival which is now christmas carol,I spend at least 2hours everyday studying to know all of these.

nobody knows the exact date except for Joseph and Mary, because the Jews and herold wanted him dead/killing the new born male babies. Jesus was born between the first and the second week of september. exact date, nobody knows.

Jesus was not born on Dec.25th...he was born in the month of Tishri in the hebrew calendar which will be around september 11th to be precise in the gregorian calendar we have today. on the 4th B.C

MzNelly:
He was born sometime around October.

Christmas remains a mystery to me.

no one know the exact date but the bible is clear, we should celebrate God gift to us.bible record show God himself celebrate the first christmas.

By his grace I will soon open a thread about christmas.

malvisguy212:
no one know the exact date but the bible is clear, we should celebrate God gift to us.bible record show God himself celebrate the first christmas.

By his grace I will soon open a thread about christmas.

Who told you no one knows the exact date?...with careful study and deduction in the events that leads to his death I think we could come to a better conclusion on his birth. Although is not october like MzNelly assert.

Here is a little Article I got on the birth of Christ and I have crossed reference it with so many others which are in agreement to it too.

The world was transfixed by the year 2000--worried about the'Y2K' bug in computers,
millennial madness in cult groups,  political union in Europe,  and a proposal to make
Mary "co-redemptrix" in the Catholic Church.  While Rome flirted with blasphemy, few
realized that the true 2000th lunar anniversary of the birth of Jesus was August 22, 1998,
or on September 11, 1998 by the solar calendar dating we now use. 

      Many may live to see the consequences of the anniversary, if it foreshadowed a coming
fake Christ.  Or at the  least, there were  dozens of lunatics eager to take advantage of the
year 2000 hysteria to get the attention of the gullible. 

      Yet the 2000th anniversary of the Nativity actually came 475 days before year 2000
began.  The correct anniversary date was about sundown, Jerusalem time, the end of the
Sabbath, Saturday August 22, 1998.

      How can we know the exact day--and nearly the hour--of the birth of Jesus?

      Simple arithmatic.  A child could have done it, if only the basic assumptions had been
correct.  But they weren't.  In the 19th century, critical scholars made a crucial decision to
reject a total lunar eclipse in January 1 BC and to accept instead one in March 4 BC, as
the chronological cornerstone for dating the death of Herod the Great, and thereby, the
possible birth years for Jesus.

      By so doing, the critics could argue Jesus had to born before 4 BC,  contradicting
Luke, who tied Jesus' 30th year to the 15th year of Tiberius Caesar, 27-28 AD.  Luke
effectively placed the birth in 3 BC, as did many of the early church fathers.  Ironically,
even the date used by the Pope during the Christmas Eve midnight mass ritual is itself 
consistent with the last half of 3 BC.

      The dirty little secret is that virtually all the available evidence has always pointed
at the harvest period of 3 BC as the focal point of the Nativity--including the possibility
of a late summer birth. 

      By rejecting Luke, scholars also threw out the date of the birth Luke gives in his
Gospel.  In his second chapter, Luke tells what happened the day Mary came to the
Temple for purification 40 days after the birth of Jesus.  All one has to know is what 
day this was.  And Luke plainly names the day.  In fact, he includes three statements 
identifying the day.  So what day was this?

      Yom Kippur.  The Day of Atonement.  The 10th day of the seventh month of the
Hebrew calendar. 

      In Luke's time, Yom Kippur was called three things: The day of the "Fast," the day
of the "Purification,"and the day of "Redemption."  Luke uses all three to identify the
day Jesus was brought to the Temple.  And he even quotes the Torah rule that mandates
the 40-day period for the mother to wait after the child's birth [Lk 2:22-38].

      And if there were any doubt that it was Yom Kippur,  Luke tells of a woman named
Anna who had been in the Temple for a "night and day" without leaving.  There was
ONLY ONE DAY A YEAR when a person could pray overnight in the Temple: Yom
Kippur.  All other days, the Temple was locked at sundown.

      This shows the 40th day of Mary's Purification had begun at the end of Yom Kippur,
the end of the 10th day of the 7th month, because we know the Purification was done at
the earliest opportunity--at the beginning of the 40th day after birth.  And since the 6th
month normally had only 29 days, simple arithmatic shows Mary's 39 days of Purification
had to have begun around sundown on the 1st day of the 6th month, called Elul.

      This was the night of the first sighting of the new moon of Elul.  The Magi in Babylon
were recording this sunset sliver of the new moon on a clay tablet.  The cuneiform tablet
the Magi made at that hour 2000 years ago, along with thousands of others from Babylon,
resides in the British Museum.  It is possible that this clay tablet was inscribed by one of
the famous Magi who later brought a strange set of gifts to Bethlehem.  So the new moon
seen by the Magi in Babylon at the very moment of Jesus being born is recorded on one of
the tablets now in London.  Cuneiform scholars have identified the date on this tablet as
equivalent to September, 11, 3 BC.

      The Hebrew lunar calendar dates vary with respect to our solar calendar.  So the 1st
of Elul was September 11th in 3 BC, but began on August 22 in 1998.  The same was true
in the days of the early church, of course.  In a given year, the 1st of Elul could have fallen
on September 8th, for example.

      This may solve another ancient mystery.  No one seems to know how Rome came to
honor September 8th as the birthday of Mary.  There is no Biblical,  historical,  or church
tradition to explain it.  It just emerges out of nowhere.  Rome keeps the 8th of December as
the Feast of the Immaculate Conception of Mary [ie. conceived without original sin].  It is
a holy day of obligation for all Catholics to attend Mass.  This feast is clearly based upon
September 8th also, and mortal sin is attached to the failure of a Catholic to observe it, yet
the origins of these dates are unknown.

      On the other hand, we can now see that if Jesus were born on September 11th as Luke
indicates, then Jesus would have been conceived around December 8th in 4 BC. The now
mysterious Mary dates fit Jesus quite well.  How might this have happened?

      In the late 4th century, in early 380 AD, Pope Damasus I was endeavoring to force all
Christians in the Roman Empire to yield to his authority.  He got the Emperor to issue an
edict requiring them to practice the religion of  Rome.  We know that it is about this time
the Christmas midnight Mass was first celebrated and December 25th first identified as a
Catholic holy day.  It is said Damasus was seeking to lure the people away from pagan
rites honoring the birth of the sun god at midnight by compelling Catholic attendance at a
memorial in honor of Christ's death, ie the Mass. The people confused this Mass with the
pagan solar birth rituals conducted at that same time.  Gradually, the Christ-Mass became
associated with the Nativity. 

      Meanwhile, the true feast around September 8th, which naturally honored Mary in
giving birth to Jesus, was converted into a day commemorating her own birth, and an old
holyday honoring the conception of Jesus was converted into a day commemorating the
conception of Mary on December 8th.  Strangely, there is still widespread belief among
non-Catholics that this is the day Jesus was concieved--a possible lingering remembrance
of the original meaning of this date.

      We can also tell from Luke's Gospel that Jesus had been born in early evening, for
Luke says the shepherds were keeping watch by night, but still had time to go into town
and tell the people what they had seen earlier that evening.  People rose early with the sun
in those days, and would have been asleep by 9 or 10 pm.  Therefore, the birth had taken
place no later than 8 pm, and probably before 7 pm.  Yet Luke says it happened at  night,
which means after sunset--surely after 6 pm in September.  Hence, it follows that Jesus
was born within a few minutes of 6:30-7:30 pm on the evening of September 11th, 3 BC.

      A confirmation of this time is in the book of Revelation.  Historian Ernest L. Martin
consulted NASA lunar-phase tables and found the image of the heavens in Revelation 12
showed where the sun and the moon were, relative to Virgo, at the time Jesus was born,
pin-pointing sunset of September 11th of 3 BC.  It seems the moon moves so quickly it is
"beneath the feet" of Virgo only a few hours every month.  Moreover, the moon comes
within two lunar diameters of Virgo's feet at the time of a new moon but once in  30 years.
The only such occurance any time near the birth of Jesus was on September 11th, 3 BC.

      Most previous attempts at determining the birth time were based upon astrology and
dating the Star of Bethlehem.  No one considered 3 BC because that year had erroneously
been assumed to follow Herod's death.  However, Dr. Martin has proven that Herod did
not die in 4 BC, but in 1 BC.  Scholars are now generally accepting the new chronology for
Herod, and this in turn has allowed the confirmation of the New Testament date for the
birth of Jesus.  Unfortunately, many churches continue to promote the critics' errors and
paganized traditions about the Nativity.

Maamin:


Who told you no one knows the exact date?...with careful study and deduction in the events that leads to his death I think we could come to a better conclusion on his birth. Although is not october like MzNelly assert.

the reason I say no one knows the date is because some say october some april some march and many christians believe it is december. All this cannot be true. Anyway thank you for your faith in christ.

malvisguy212:
the reason I say no one knows the date is because some say october some april some march and many christians believe it is december. All this cannot be true. Anyway thank you for your faith in christ.

Shalom.

MzNelly:
He was born sometime around October.

Christmas remains a mystery to me.

https://www.nairaland.com/2042382/why-christians-should-celebrate-christmas.not[url]

MzNelly:
He was born sometime around October.

Christmas remains a mystery to me.

https://www.nairaland.com/2042382/why-christians-should-celebrate-christmas.not[/url]

MzNelly:
He was born sometime around October.

Christmas remains a mystery to me.

https://www.nairaland.com/2042382/why-christians-should-celebrate-christmas.not

malvisguy212:


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What's your point?

OLAADEGBU:


What's your point?

read the thread ,although we don't know the month or date of christ birth, but it no crime to celebrate christmas,read romans 14.

How can we (because i have for several years) celebrate what we know nothing about? If Jesus was not born on the 25th dec, then who then do we celebrate on this day? we must have been pagans without our knowing. besides what is christmas? christ and mass, mass (large number of people) gathered in Christ(nice), but it can also be interchanged with Xmas, Mass of people celebrating and unknown person, x= unknown varieble.

if Jesus is the beginning of christianity, why is not the sit of christianity in Jerusalem where He taught most of all his life before the holy jews people of God killed him?

malvisguy212:
read the thread ,although we don't know the month or date of christ birth, but it no crime to celebrate christmas,read romans 14.

gatiano:
How can we (because i have for several years) celebrate what we know nothing about? If Jesus was not born on the 25th dec, then who then do we celebrate on this day? we must have been pagans without our knowing. besides what is christmas? christ and mass, mass (large number of people) gathered in Christ(nice), but it can also be interchanged with Xmas, Mass of people celebrating and unknown person, x= unknown varieble.

if Jesus is the beginning of christianity, why is not the sit of christianity in Jerusalem where He taught most of all his life before the holy jews people of God killed him?

as long as we celebrate it to the Lord,it alright.

gatiano:
How can we (because i have for several years) celebrate what we know nothing about? If Jesus was not born on the 25th dec, then who then do we celebrate on this day? we must have been pagans without our knowing. besides what is christmas? christ and mass, mass (large number of people) gathered in Christ(nice), but it can also be interchanged with Xmas, Mass of people celebrating and unknown person, x= unknown varieble.

if Jesus is the beginning of christianity, why is not the sit of christianity in Jerusalem where He taught most of all his life before the holy jews people of God killed him?

as long as we celebrate it to the Lord,it alright.

gatiano:
How can we (because i have for several years) celebrate what we know nothing about? If Jesus was not born on the 25th dec, then who then do we celebrate on this day? we must have been pagans without our knowing. besides what is christmas? christ and mass, mass (large number of people) gathered in Christ(nice), but it can also be interchanged with Xmas, Mass of people celebrating and unknown person, x= unknown varieble.

if Jesus is the beginning of christianity, why is not the sit of christianity in Jerusalem where He taught most of all his life before the holy jews people of God killed him?

as long as we celebrate it to the Lord,it alright.

Romans14
5 One person regards one day above another,
another regards every day alike. Each person must be
fully convinced in his own mind. 6 He who observes
the day, observes it for the Lord, and he who eats,
does so for the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and
he who eats not, for the Lord he does not eat, and
gives thanks to God.

Jeremiah
10:1 Hear ye the word which the LORD speaketh unto you, O house of Israel:

10:2 Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.

10:3 For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.

10:4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.

10:5 They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good.

malvisguy212:
as long as we celebrate it to the Lord,it alright.

as long as we celebrate it to the Lord,it alright.

as long as we celebrate it to the Lord,it alright.

Romans14
5 One person regards one day above another,
another regards every day alike. Each person must be
fully convinced in his own mind. 6 He who observes
the day, observes it for the Lord, and he who eats,
does so for the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and
he who eats not, for the Lord he does not eat, and
gives thanks to God.

gatiano:
Jeremiah
10:1 Hear ye the word which the LORD speaketh unto you, O house of Israel:

10:2 Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.

10:3 For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.

10:4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.

10:5 They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good.

whp are the heathen?

Pagans.
https://www.nairaland.com/2049287/black-peoples-guide-understanding-christmas#28965382

malvisguy212:
whp are the heathen?

http://mountaingks.org/weekly%20sermon%20vol%201/Was%20Christ%20Born%20On%20Xmas%20day.php

Christ lived for 33.5 years.
Let's say he was born in December. This means he reached his 33 years in December. Now let's count 6 months, we will land on June. Unfortunately, easter or the celebration of Christ's birth is not always done in June but April. Now let's count 6 months from October,we will definitely land in April. Therefore, christ was no born in December but October.
The God's Kingdom Society(GKS) has been preaching the truth about the date of Christ birth.
We do not know the exact day but the month is now known. Thank God for this revelation through Saint G.M.Urhobo, the instrument God Almighty used to found the GKS.

mkpakanaodogwu:


Tell ur your own version of the story

Question: "Was Jesus born on December 25? Is December 25 Jesus' birthday?"

Answer: Speculation as to the time of Jesus’ birth dates back to the 3rd century, when Hyppolytus (ca. 170-236) claimed that Jesus was born on December 25. The earliest mention of some sort of observance on that date is in the Philoclian Calendar, representing Roman practice, of the year 336. Later, John Chrysostom favored the same date of birth. Cyril of Jerusalem (348-386) had access to the original Roman birth census, which also documented that Jesus was born on the 25th of December. The date eventually became the officially recognized date for Christmas in part because it coincided with the pagan festivals celebrating Saturnalia and the winter solstice. The church thereby offered people a Christian alternative to the pagan festivities and eventually reinterpreted many of their symbols and actions in ways acceptable to Christian faith and practice.

December 25 has become more and more acceptable as the birth date of Jesus. However, some argue that the birth occurred in some other season, such as in the fall. Followers of this theory claim that the Judean winters were too cold for shepherds to be watching their flocks by night. History proves otherwise, however, and we have historical evidence that unblemished lambs for the Temple sacrifice were in fact kept in the fields near Bethlehem during the winter months. With that said, it is impossible to prove whether or not Jesus was born on December 25. And, ultimately, it does not matter.

The truth is we simply don’t know the exact date of our Savior’s birth. In fact, we don’t even know for sure the year in which He was born. Scholars believe it was somewhere between 6 B.C. and 4 B.C. One thing is clear: if God felt it was important for us to know the exact date of the Savior’s birth, He certainly would have told us in His Word. The Gospel of Luke gives very specific details about the event, even down to what the baby was wearing – “swaddling clothes”—and where he slept—“in a manger” (Luke 2:12). These details are important because they speak of His nature and character, meek and lowly. But the exact date of His birth has no significance whatsoever, which may be why God chose not to mention it.

The fact is that He was born, that He came into the world to atone for our sins, that He was resurrected to eternal life, and that He’s alive today. This is what we should celebrate, as we are told in the Old Testament in such passages as Zechariah 2:10: “'Shout and be glad, O Daughter of Zion. For I am coming, and I will live among you,' declares the LORD.” Further, the angel that announced the birth to the shepherds brought “good news of great joy that will be for all the people” (Luke 2:10). Surely here is the cause for celebration every day, not just once a year.

Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/December-25.html#ixzz3MjxocHs3

pashaun:


No, he was born in March. December 25th has been debunked for a long time.

Why did you say He was born in March?

MzNelly:


He was born sometime around October.

Christmas remains a mystery to me.

Any evidence to your assertion?

haffaze777:


sorry to disappoint u cos Jesus wasn't born

Are you certain about that?

aaronson:


That guy above me nailed it....and that babe who wrote march is basically assumption by some scholars,august is way out of it but the TRUTH is no jesus was born...pope Julius the first of the catholic church came up with the december 25th fairy tale and martin luther king dad came up with the Xmas tree while,British successful business men came up with annual carnival which is now christmas carol,I spend at least 2hours everyday studying to know all of these.

How did you arrive at this "truth"?

gatiano:


nobody knows the exact date except for Joseph and Mary, because the Jews and herold wanted him dead/killing the new born male babies. Jesus was born between the first and the second week of september. exact date, nobody knows.

How did you arrive at the month of September?

Maamin:


Jesus was not born on Dec.25th...he was born in the month of Tishri in the hebrew calendar which will be around september 11th to be precise in the gregorian calendar we have today. on the 4th B.C

How did you know that?

malvisguy212:


no one know the exact date but the bible is clear, we should celebrate God gift to us.bible record show God himself celebrate the first christmas.

By his grace I will soon open a thread about christmas.

Please, enlighten us on how God celebrated the first Christmas.

Maamin:


Who told you no one knows the exact date?...with careful study and deduction in the events that leads to his death I think we could come to a better conclusion on his birth. Although is not october like MzNelly assert.

Have you been able to arrive at the exact date yet?