KLand:
Does anyone have a link to watch the movie online?

its gomma be released now.Sony said so this Morning

MabraO:
Sometimes I wonder how people reason.

Something of this nature happened earlier this year between U.S nd Russia
Lotta peeps said Russia will crumble U.S economy this nd that at the end Russia is paying the price.

Now NK nd u still see peeps talk trash.
Americans don't just act movies for acting sake they do based on intelligence gathered either from their own or from other country nd add a lil bit of entertainment.

Americans re d world power nd they act as such irrespective of d circumstances
Unlike our clueless fisherman.

its funny how someone can make so much sense and still be way too stupid at the same time. You just had to put GEJ, I'm sure if your gf cheats, its gej's fault, yeah? kudos bro, its a new record for u

I love US!

erico2k2:

its gomma be released now.Sony said so this Morning

OK. Thanks.

EMANY01:


You are correct although when all things are considered the difference between the systems & tools that would be employed in information warfare / electronic warfare(as you well know they are quite different although they generally will be applied together) against countries like Nigeria,SA,Argentina and N.K would be several iterations different in magnitude from the tools to be employed against say ; India,china and Russia. I don't think Iran really rates here.
The challenge and fine line to walk here for a western power (read France,Uk Israel and the US), would be to :calibrate the systems/tools to prevent a scenario where a peer state will gain access to observe the damage done using those tools and extrapolate to get a marginally fair assessment of what suite of offensive systems/tools are in reserve and intended for them.
Its the way the world works in the case of strategic weapons and intelligence:you have this awesome new weapon just developed and tested(hopefully without details of the weapon leaking to the oppositions intelligence services).
The quandary is now a scenario where a minor or just above minor conflict/threat/situation more likely not involving the "main enemy" (at first) develops.
That new weapon may just be the magic bullet that could help a commander in chief to resolve /neutralize the situation or threats in a cost effective( fewer [conventional ],platforms and lives of soldiers/seamen/airmen or Marines) manner with minimum risk of escalation .The problem is, that weapon was designed to contain and hold at risk the military strategic capacities of the main enem(ies).
The question for the CIC
!/do you" use that new secret weapon, rapidly and easily resolve that emerging situation/crisis containing a possible escalation that can occur when some crisis are not immediately resolved or
!/do you "Use the current tools you have ,capabilities of which are well known although marginally superior which may give you unpredictable results"?

The decision matrix is complicated by the fact that things could go spectacularly wrong in either case with serious political consequences for the CIC either way.
Examples of this scenarios include the loss of the F-111 , in Serbia which was essentially a "brush fire war" in American parlance.It gave the world (read Chinese and Russians) the first close up look at Americas' super secret stealth plane .Even though it was the carcass of the plane they were examining it gave the opposition a fundamental idea of what the new secret weapon was about and even if they could not build it, they began from there to build information/knowledge required to invalidate the threat posed by the new weapon.
Same scenario goes for the stealth helicopter lost in Abottabad in the operation to kill Bin Laden.The Chinese were there almost as soon as the American touched home base to take a good look at the downed chopper and if I recall correctly were trying to buy the fuselage from the Pakistani military/government.

In the case strategic intelligence the decision matrix is the same, consider this some historians claim that in 1941 before the Pearl harbor attack, the OSS had a spy embedded within the Japanese top political hierarchy who actually warned about a possible planned attack by Japan but the decision makers in the top levels of the OSS held on to that information not to sabotage the US but because if the information spread within the us war structure,it would lead to the Japanese overhauling their counter-intelligence essentially cutting of their only reliable sources of intelligence in the Japanese government.They had calculated rather wrongly that if they released their information within a specific time period before the Japanese actually attacked the Pacific fleet would be ready for the Japanese without tipping of their hand.Problem is the timed things rather too close and badly.They got the warning our but the warning came just as the attack fleet crossed into Hawaiian airspace.

So the question framed in a simple way is "so you use your secret weapon/intelligence for a medium/moderate level crisis and tip you hand or do you continue to conceal what you have until maximum benefit can be gained from using it?
Follow up question,how and when do you determine maximum benefit?


Shout out to Frankie....LOLLLLLSSS.

Av been following you since your first comment on this thread...
To say that I am impressed is me just being discreet...

Which area of Info security do you specialise? Wld love to learn frm you.

PS: I thought the chopper at Abbottabad was blown up by the Seals...can any meaningful examination be carried out on the charred remains??

TheWhiteKnight:


Av been following you since your first comment on this thread...
To say that I am impressed is me just being discreet...

Which area of Info security do you specialise? Wld love to learn frm you.


PS: I thought the chopper at Abbottabad was blown up by the Seals...can any meaningful examination be carried ouvt on the charred remains??

I play in the data center design and build space as well as physical and logical security systems integration.

Well I'm sure you must have heard of accident investigations for automobiles' in serious car crashes,rail mishaps and even the worst of air crash incidents.
If you have ever paid attention to the conclusions the investigators are usually able to find the cause of the accidents regardless of how much damage is involved.
They find enough detail to determine the cause of the accidents to tell if someone sabotaged a car's breaks,to tell if some seemingly obscure part of a train engine failed causing a massive crash.They are especially able to determine apart from the information derived from an airplanes black box,if a plane crash was caused by a failed engine part or damage to the plane mid flight or as a result of poor maintenance or even sabotage.
If doing all that is now routine even with the worst kind of crashes, it takes just about the same skill set to examine a downed military aircraft,missile to get an idea of how it was built.
Hollywood has led a lot of people to believe that all crashes even the ones involving fires means nothing can be recovered.Nothing could be farther from the truth.
Even (trained) fire investigators can tell you everything thing about a fire in a burnt out building.How the fire started what specific conditions/items aided the fire and they can tell if the fire was intentional (arson) or not.
Take aircraft designers,aircraft engineers, give them training in engineering forensic science and reverse engineering they are ready to deconstruct any aircraft contraption .
The level of damage only reduces the amount of information they gather.
The chopper at Abottabad came under heavy caliber fire and took some damage.The pilot had to effect a semi controlled landing.The soldiers then had to attempt to damage the chopper beyond the level of retrieving any information from the avionics and other systems using some nitrate compound (can't remember the name right now) that burns to 1500 degrees Celsius but even at that temperature you will only minimally damage metals so there might be something to learn from looking at the engines.

EMANY01:


I play in the data center design and build space as well as physical and logical security systems integration.

Well I'm sure you must have heard of accident investigations for automobiles' in serious car crashes,rail mishaps and even the worst of air crash incidents.
If you have ever paid attention to the conclusions the investigators are usually able to find the cause of the accidents regardless of how much damage is involved.
They find enough detail to determine the cause of the accidents to tell if someone sabotaged a car's breaks,to tell if some seemingly obscure part of a train engine failed causing a massive crash.They are especially able to determine apart from the information derived from an airplanes black box,if a plane crash was caused by a failed engine part or damage to the plane mid flight or as a result of poor maintenance or even sabotage.
If doing all that is now routine even with the worst kind of crashes

You say routine

Well depends on the level of damage...some of these investigations take months going to a year before a final conclusion can be drawn, most especially aircraft investigations where the parts may have been burned, dispersed and buried at the bottom of the ocean...

Hope u don't mind me sending you a PM, wanna make some inquiry

EMANY01:
Aww men I was hoping the US would not rise to the bait.The hack routes all went through china.The Chinese may not have been able to stop it but the were sure able to get a good look at US cyber command assault sub-routines and will be studying the information gleaned very intensely.
Cyber commands first act was supposed to be major like war with China.Now the "main enemy" has gotten a good look at their force structure,without engaging with them.

I love this guy (no homo).

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manutdadex:
dats d problem i av wit d U.S...they only care abt demself...they beliv say dem to get power..well dem get

We have Seen the movies; Olympus Has Fallen acted by white guy and White House Down starring Jamie Fox,a black guy. The movies shows how the "White House" was attacked by the Koreans etc. Whats the big deal if Sony filmed the "Interview" . Dont understand what the fuss is about. Its Free Country,baby!

Gaucho:
We have Seen the movies; Olympus Has Fallen acted by white guy and White House Down starring Jamie Fox,a black guy. The movies shows how the "White House" was attacked by the Koreans etc. Whats the big deal if Sony filmed the "Interview" . Dont understand what the fuss is about. Its Free Country,baby!

Which country, I think you mean to say the world.

I just saw this Interview movie. Hilarious. The North Korean army lady was fascinated with Miley Cyrus cameltoe. Out of all American culture, she managed to isolate the cameltoe.

The movie has already been downloaded over 750 000 times on Bit-torrent, its going to be a major flop.

this is too much

That whole movie deal was some colosally messed up idea.

Wish it stayed in idealand and nobody made it da 1st place.

Interestingly funny....maybe they are not looking at the right direction... Are they?