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| Re: South African Opposition Leader, Malema, Takes a Swipe at President Jonathan by courage89(m): 5:32pm On Jan 14, 2015 |
Can we forget the messenger for a minute and tackle the message. I don't care about Malema or South Africa, what I care about is my country and how it is being managed. The ability and the capacity of the leadership to make the right decision. And if they mess up, we should be able to accommodate positive criticism in respective of where it is coming from. How can a father/mother whose kids just passed away, fails to acknowledge and mourn their own pain and suffering, but sees it as a matter of necessity to mourn their neighbors loses. Very very shameful 2 Likes |
| Re: South African Opposition Leader, Malema, Takes a Swipe at President Jonathan by johnie: 5:33pm On Jan 14, 2015 |
Change2015: More: Newspapers print survival tips and “load shedder recipes” for food you can prepare without electricity. And there are bleak jokes aplenty. “Q: What did South Africa use before candles? A: Electricity.” https://www.nairaland.com/1791233/only-naija-3#29791271  |
| Re: South African Opposition Leader, Malema, Takes a Swipe at President Jonathan by anonimi: 5:33pm On Jan 14, 2015 |
barcanista: Yes he was wrong. Very wrong. Our president is bringing IMPROVEMENT in various and diverse sectors of our socio-economic life while REDUCING corruption through SYSTEMATIC redress of leakages and loopholes in processes that REPUTABLE international bodies that used to score us low have now noticed and duly acknowledged. Transparency International moved us up EIGHT places between 2013 and 2014 only. Even the US-based non-profit research and advisory organisation, Global Financial Integrity (GFI) noted that outflow of corruption money from our country in 2012 was less than HALF of the average in 10 years (2002-2012). Do you or Malema have better comprehensive information, data & statistics than these organisations that have been monitoring our trends for so many years  Kai Buhari!!! #Liberate-Lagos 1 Like 2 Shares |
| Re: South African Opposition Leader, Malema, Takes a Swipe at President Jonathan by Nobody: 5:34pm On Jan 14, 2015 |
Change2015:This Change that we are shouting is already here...Sai Buhari 2 Likes |
| Re: South African Opposition Leader, Malema, Takes a Swipe at President Jonathan by Change2015(m): 5:34pm On Jan 14, 2015 |
johnie: And it seems you don't understand my point. South Africans have better access and more electricity at their disposal. Check my link. How can you sitting in darkness be throwing stones at the people who have not made an industry out of importing better-pass-my-neighbour generators? South Africa may have its problems, but we have nothing to be smug about. Jonathan has made sure of that! #change #GMB #APC 2 Likes |
| Re: South African Opposition Leader, Malema, Takes a Swipe at President Jonathan by Nobody: 5:39pm On Jan 14, 2015 |
anonimi:Lols... Anonimi you are quoting from ibori.com 1 Like |
| Re: South African Opposition Leader, Malema, Takes a Swipe at President Jonathan by johnie: 5:41pm On Jan 14, 2015 |
Change2015: 1 Like
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| Re: South African Opposition Leader, Malema, Takes a Swipe at President Jonathan by anonimi: 5:42pm On Jan 14, 2015 |
Change2015: Jonathan made sure we have no electricity like the South Africans? What have you been smoking? Obasanjo who is now the darling of the Association of Pretending Crooks, APC as their "navigator" was our president for eight years and military DICTATOR for three years. In those 11 years what did he do to improve electricity supply comapred to Jonathan What did General Muhammadu Buhari also do to improve electricity supply in our country during his two years of MISERABLE reign as MAXIMUM ruler? Kai Buhari!!! #Liberate-Lagos |
| Re: South African Opposition Leader, Malema, Takes a Swipe at President Jonathan by anonimi: 5:43pm On Jan 14, 2015 |
barcanista: Please provide the link to your ibori.com with the story. Thanks. |
| Re: South African Opposition Leader, Malema, Takes a Swipe at President Jonathan by johnie: 5:43pm On Jan 14, 2015 |
Change2015: Fixed! 1 Like |
| Re: South African Opposition Leader, Malema, Takes a Swipe at President Jonathan by Nobody: 5:44pm On Jan 14, 2015 |
anonimi:That was meant to be a mockery 1 Like |
| Re: South African Opposition Leader, Malema, Takes a Swipe at President Jonathan by johnie: 5:48pm On Jan 14, 2015 |
Had enough of load-shedding? Time to invest in a generator SOUTH AFRICAThursday 11 December 2014 - 12:11pm CAPE TOWN - With no end in sight to the power cuts, many South Africans are turning to other sources to solve their energy woes. One of the simplest is a generator. With more power blackouts on the cards due to Eskom’s load-shedding, eNCA decided to visit a local retailer to find out more about using generators as an alternative power source. http://www.enca.com/south-africa/enough-load-shedding-invest-generator 1 Like |
| Re: South African Opposition Leader, Malema, Takes a Swipe at President Jonathan by anonimi: 5:50pm On Jan 14, 2015 |
barcanista: Thanks for grudgingly acknowledging the giant strides in eradicating corruption by the Jonathan/Sambo administration's more effective SYSTEMATIC approach to fighting this scourge in our midst. It is good to see you align with the international organisations who are beginning to see POSITIVE results of this long-haul approach to the fight. It does not matter that you did so grudgingly as I believe it is a first step towards acknowledging wholeheartedly  Kai Buhari!!! #Liberate-Lagos |
| Re: South African Opposition Leader, Malema, Takes a Swipe at President Jonathan by Nobody: 5:53pm On Jan 14, 2015 |
anonimi:Bros You sha funny o 1 Like |
| Re: South African Opposition Leader, Malema, Takes a Swipe at President Jonathan by TonySpike: 5:57pm On Jan 14, 2015 |
Who is this guy posting articles about load-shedding in South Africa. Is he even aware that the overall electrical power generated in Nigeria is slightly higher than the power consumption in just Johannesburg, South Africa? As at 2013, the city of Johannesburg consumed well over 3500 MW everyday alone!! Whereas, Nigeria generates roughly 4500 MW for its citizens. Isn't that shameful? 3 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: South African Opposition Leader, Malema, Takes a Swipe at President Jonathan by johnie: 6:04pm On Jan 14, 2015 |
TonySpike: Yes it is shameful but the ANC government has not been able to maintain the power system. President Zuma's government is blaming the problem on Apartheid after twenty years of ANC rule. What would be the reply of an average Nigerian to any government at any level blaming the military for any problem? I maintain my stance, let Malema face their problem and leave Nigeria alone. He is a known attention seeker who enjoys taking cheap shots! |
| Re: South African Opposition Leader, Malema, Takes a Swipe at President Jonathan by Tranquill: 6:09pm On Jan 14, 2015 |
Change2015: Julius Malema setting up his own party that won 3% in parliament does not make him an opposition leader bro. AN OPPOSITION LEADER IS A TITLE HELD BY THE LEADER OF THE LARGEST PARTY NOT IN GOVERNMENT. You can describe the leader of APC in Nigeria as opposition leader but not leaders of other fringe parties. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leader_of_the_Opposition The people that are asking why the giant of africa can not defeat BH should be told that it is because of the constituency support they get and their collaborators within the military. No reasonable person will blame the president if a father donates his 12 or 10 year old daughter to carry bomb for boko haram. over 40 people get killed in Chicago alone every month and no one insults or blames Obama. To defeat boko haram there has to be unity and coporation of everyone but when people do not coperate with the government with the hope that it will make the president look unelectable and help them get power back, then you think it is sensible to blame the president? |
| Re: South African Opposition Leader, Malema, Takes a Swipe at President Jonathan by Nobody: 6:10pm On Jan 14, 2015 |
johnie: [size=18pt]you are just talking trash. please don't derail the thread and start talking about electricity. We want to be focused on gej's cluelessness. Even CNN floored gej so they have problems too? [/size] 3 Likes |
| Re: South African Opposition Leader, Malema, Takes a Swipe at President Jonathan by citizenY(m): 6:13pm On Jan 14, 2015 |
barcanista: @barca.... thank you 2 Likes |
| Re: South African Opposition Leader, Malema, Takes a Swipe at President Jonathan by LadyX(f): 6:27pm On Jan 14, 2015 |
It's indeed a bad joke that he sent condolescences to France whose 17 citizens died, but nothing about hundreds of nigerians killed by boko haram. Hypocrisy! Talk of PR with the west Nihilist: 1 Like |
| Re: South African Opposition Leader, Malema, Takes a Swipe at President Jonathan by obailala(m): 6:28pm On Jan 14, 2015 |
How did we get to such a low point in our nationhood?... No single country in the world takes Nigeria serious any more.  1 Like |
| Re: South African Opposition Leader, Malema, Takes a Swipe at President Jonathan by realborn(m): 6:29pm On Jan 14, 2015 |
Wow. Stunned at the passion and compassion expressed by this compassionate man from South Africa many miles away. He is even proposing an intervention by the SA government on our behalf. What brotherly love is more? Here, the aides will advise that the President should continue his jamboree unperturbed irrespective of the results from the fields. As far as the leader here is concerned, he has delegated to Service Chiefs and it is their business to sort, even if field officers complain of corruption, he cares not, more so, the people being killed are not his kinsmen. The inept attitude is glaring to the world and our non-Nigerian friends and business colleagues keep asking us how we elected such a leader. In Paris, few people died and there was an immediate military action followed by a solidarity march led by their President and supported by other world leaders due to the evident seriousness to put an end to the Melee. Here in Nigeria our leader is busy casting aspersions at the opposition because his reelection is more important than the lives lost daily. How did we get this low? 2 Likes |
| Re: South African Opposition Leader, Malema, Takes a Swipe at President Jonathan by johnie: 6:31pm On Jan 14, 2015 |
diluminati: Let's not talk about electricity? Ok let's talk about the intervention he is suggesting. Do you remember their "Intervention" in CAR and how it ended in a disaster and shame? Let me jog your memory with this article from an SA newspaper: Central African Republic: Is this what our soldiers died for? 28 MAR 2013 00:00 AMABHUNGANE REPORTERS The lure of arms deals and diamonds – and possibly other mineral resources – sucked the ANC into the Central African Republic. South African military involvement in the Central African Republic has from the start been entwined with ANC-linked deals, raising questions about the motivation for the disastrous deployment of South African troops to the troubled country. The figure at the centre of the web is the politically connected businessperson and fixer Didier Pereira. Pereira is currently partnered to the ANC security supremo and fundraiser, Paul Langa, and former spy chief Billy Masetlha. Their group has initiated several business projects in CAR, including some involving diamonds Previously, he partnered with ANC hard man Joshua "General" Nxumalo and the ANC funding front, Chancellor House, in an initiative that involved security and attempts to gain a diamond export monopoly in the CAR. Pereira, originally from Congo-Brazzaville, is a special adviser to the recently toppled CAR president, François Bozizé. He has maintained business ties with powerful ANC security and intelligence figures during both the Thabo Mbeki and Jacob Zuma presidencies. Although the ANC figures who Pereira does business with has changed between presidencies, the nature of his dealings have remained consistent. Quid pro quo? [b]As the security situation in the CAR deteriorated in October last year, Pereira brokered direct access to Zuma for Bozizé's son and CAR defence minister, Francis Bozizé, in a bid to "unlock a sensitive weapons delivery issue", the specialist publication Intelligence Online reported recently. Bozizé Jnr does not appear to have got what he came for because of South Africa's statutory weapons trade controls, but Pereira's reported role as a facilitator of this key meeting is noteworthy. A CAR diplomat in Pretoria, who did want to be named because of the fluid political situation back home, said that Pereira had lived in South Africa for "more than 20 years" and that he was a recognisable figure among embassy staff. He also previously partnered with a notorious Zimbabwean arms dealer, John Bredenkamp, according to sources with a detailed knowledge of the central African region and company searches in South Africa. Other South African-linked interests in the CAR include the Canadian-based gold exploration and mining company, Axmin. Its president and chief executive, George Roach, was also associated with UraMin, a politically well-connected uranium prospecting company, which is said to have enjoyed Thabo Mbeki's backing when it won a concession in the CAR. The concession was later sold to the French nuclear multinational, Areva. The oil exploration company, DIG Oil, which also enjoyed Mbeki-era political support, has an oil concession in the south west of the country. [/b]To the rescue Bozizé's rule of the CAR has been precarious after he toppled his predecessor, Ange-Félix Patassé, in a coup in 2003, which was condemned at the time by both Mbeki and his then-deputy, Zuma. Bozizé won an election in 2005 that excluded Patassé from the ballot, but his grip on power was soon threatened by Patassé-linked rebels. As Bozizé's military situation worsened, he sought help from South Africa. A joint South African Defence Force (SANDF) and defence department "fact-finding mission" went to the CAR in January 2006. A flurry of diplomacy between Pretoria and Bangui in April that year culminated in the then-defence minister, Terror Lekota, signing a co-operation agreement in defence, minerals and energy at the end of that month, which he followed up with an "onsite assessment" trip to the CAR in May. Pereira was quick off the mark. On May 18, a week after Lekota's return, he signed a memorandum of understanding with the CAR mining ministry. It envisaged the creation of a public-private partnership, Inala Centrafrique, according to documents of Inala and its business partners, which were obtained by the Mail & Guardian. ANC stake [b]Inala Centrafrique was formally registered in August 2006. Over time, its shareholding was settled at a 35% stake for the CAR government and 65% going to a South African company, Serengeti Group Holdings. The latter was majority-owned by Nxumalo, whose notoriety during the ANC underground days was underscored by his part in the Virodene vitamins-for-Aids scandal. Significant stakes also belonged to Pereira and the Chancellor House Trust, share registers show. An Inala Centrafrique business proposal to the CAR government, dated July 6 2007, retrospectively confirmed that “the joint venture is a culmination of the accord signed by both … Mbeki … and Bozizé … during the meeting of the governments in South Africa in … 2006 for the two countries to work together.” It identified Nxumalo as chief executive and Pereira as chief operations officer. While this deal was being hammered out behind the scenes, South Africa signed a formal, five-year defence co-operation agreement with the CAR on February 11 2007, involving both the deployment of South African troops and the provision of military equipment. Zuma renewed the agreement in December last year, on the grounds of which, in the face of the growing crisis, he ordered a reinforcement of troops to the CAR in January this year. [/b] Diamonds and arms The Inala Centrafrique joint venture between the CAR government and Pereira, Nxumalo and the Chancellor House Trust was primarily a mechanism to buy diamonds from the CAR's small-scale miners. But the plan had two other elements, which, if implemented, would give Inala and its ANC-linked shareholders total dominance of the CAR's diamond market. The first was an initiative to create and equip, on behalf of the state, a police des mines, or mining police, to combat illegal diamond dealing. The second element, it appears from the documents and an interview with a would-be Inala business partner, was for Inala to be granted an export monopoly by the CAR government. In other words, although its majority shareholding was privately held, Inala would have been endowed with part of the form and function of a state agency: a national diamond exporter with an associated police enforcement arm. Dividends of more than $800-million over 10 years were envisaged. In a further example of the conflation of South African state and ANC party interests, a Serengeti subsidiary partnered with a South African armoured vehicle business, Mechanology, in September 2007 to revamp decommissioned armoured vehicles that the SANDF had offered to donate to Bozizé. The armoured vehicle deal broke down, apparently because there was a dispute over who would pay for the refurbishment. Inala's attempts to control the CAR diamond mining industry fizzled out by March 2008. New ANC partners By then, the Zuma-linked faction of the ANC's security and intelligence apparatus appears to have inherited the relationship with Pereira from Serengeti. At about the same time that Serengeti dropped the ball on the armoured vehicles and the Inala diamond deal collapsed, a company called Bagamoyo Investment Holdings was formed with Pereira as a founding director. Chief among Pereira's co-directors in Bagamoyo is Langa who, like Nxumalo before him, comes with a heavy-hitting ANC security and intelligence pedigree, but also with strong whiffs of controversy. He was suspended and later dismissed as chief executive of the Robben Island Museum after a forensic audit found a R25-million hole in the company accounts back in 2008. Langa was head of security co-ordination at ANC headquarters in the late 1990s. His Zonkizizwe group of companies appear to perform both security and fundraising functions for the ANC. Other directors in Bagamoyo included: Fabien Singaye, a former Rwandan diplomat who served as Bozize's personal adviser and is alleged to have played a central role in the purchase of CAR uranium assets by UraMin, a company with a number of South African links; and John Robertson, an IT specialist who works with Langa in the Zonkizizwe controlled Tsohle Technology Holdings. Masetlha confirmed that Bagamoyo was set up to exploit opportunities in CAR. Masetlha said: "Our role was to try and engage South African business persons to invest in the area. Pereira happened to be one of the people who knew CAR well. I agreed to get involved and spoke to Paul []." Masetlha, who is recovering from a long illness, said he was hazy about the details but added that Lazarus Mbethe was brought in as well, because of his business acumen. Masetlha, Pereira, Langa and Mbethe appear as directors in two other shelf companies, Evening Star Trading 665 and Universal Pulse Trading 117, both set up in November 2006. Mbethe is heavily involved in mining. He was part of the Pitsa ya Sechaba consortium that partnered with Chancellor House and the Russian company, Renova, to form United Manganese of Kalahari, which controversially got manganese rights in Northern Cape. Masetlha said he and his partners were trying to get involved in stabilising the country through development. Projects he recalled included the refurbishment of a hotel, which is understood to have been the Oubangui Hotel, with which Pereira has also been associated. He confirmed Langa had been "there on the ground" frequently – "he's been in and out" – and had concerned himself particularly with security issues. Most significantly, Masetlha confirmed the group had an interest in diamonds from the region and had owned a barge to be used for alluvial diamond mining somewhere upstream on the Ubangi River where the group had a diamond concession. He said the group had also discussed upgrading some of the main roads and the airport, but little progress had been made because of the instability in the country. "The problem was security … the SA government got involved in trying to help Bozizé at least beef up his personal protection," said Masetlha. No comment Masetlha and another South African businessperson who has contact with Pereira independently supplied the same cell number for him. When the M&G contacted the number and asked for Pereira, the man who answered the phone said he was Pereira. But when the M&G identified itself and indicated it wished to talk about the CAR, the person who answered said it was a wrong number. He refused to give his name and hung up. Mbethe said he was in a meeting and then hung up the second time the M&G phoned him. Robertson said he was not involved in Bagamoyo and referred questions to Langa. Attempts to contact Langa by phone were unsuccessful. Written questions faxed to him at his request were unanswered at the time of going to press. A spokesperson for the presidency was unavailable to comment. http://mg.co.za/article/2013-03-28-00-central-african-republic-is-this-what-our-soldiers-died-for |
| Re: South African Opposition Leader, Malema, Takes a Swipe at President Jonathan by chacoonder(m): 6:33pm On Jan 14, 2015 |
barcanista:YES, IT HAS....lols. 2 Likes |
| Re: South African Opposition Leader, Malema, Takes a Swipe at President Jonathan by Change2015(m): 6:40pm On Jan 14, 2015 |
Tranquill: It may be that young as you are subtle words need to be repeated and explained. Malema is an opposition leader, but in parliament the 'leader of the opposition' is a position held by the second largest party in parliament! Moving on, I would like to show my support for the front line troops by ensuring they have everything they need to accomplish this national goal. I would also want to make sure that the security and defence budget is spent wisely, and all criminals who see the army as a way to steal from the nation are prosecuted to the fullest. Last year all the serving military chiefs got national honours, for accomplishing what exactly, I wonder? What is the incentive to excel if no matter your performance, you will still be honoured simply for occupying that position? The DSS should focus on terrorism and kidnapping and not persecuting the apc for the PDP's gain. President Jonathan has managed to make even northerners think he is using boko haram against them simply by demonstrating a lack of resolve to finish the issue. Even obasanjo has commented that initially Jonathan did not take the issue seriously. I'm sorry but Jonathan is beyond redemption to me. #change #GMB #APC 1 Like |
| Re: South African Opposition Leader, Malema, Takes a Swipe at President Jonathan by Change2015(m): 6:46pm On Jan 14, 2015 |
realborn: Of course his election and family are more important to him than the national interest. One day after the Nyanya bombing, he was on the campaign trail dancing on stage while dozens of families mourned their losses and the nation looked on horrified. Last month his sister passed away, and he cancelled a campaign for days to attend to that matter. Compare and contrast! We really don't matter to him. #change #GMB #APC 1 Like |
| Re: South African Opposition Leader, Malema, Takes a Swipe at President Jonathan by johnie: 6:53pm On Jan 14, 2015 |
realborn: Brotherly love? I laugh in Zulu! The solidarity march you mentioned was attended by Hollande (Government) and Sarkozy (Opposition) Is that possible here? Everything is politics here! 1 Like
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| Re: South African Opposition Leader, Malema, Takes a Swipe at President Jonathan by Tranquill: 7:43pm On Jan 14, 2015 |
Change2015: Thanks for revealing where you are coming from. You did not show any reference that defines Julius Malema the buffon as the opposition leader of South Africa. Being a leader of a small opposition party does not make him the opposition leader. Northerners are now seeing that their game plan has backfired so now looking for whom to blame. Even the the parents that donate their daughters are blaming Jonathan. Obasanjo gives his suggestion just like other former heads of state and retired generals particularly from that region that Jonathan consults with but thinks it is his own view that must be taken. He wants the president to kill innocent people like he did in Odi and Zarki Biam. The Nigerian army is not a boys scout as for you guys to start circulating the trash as not having enough equipments to defeat the ragtag boko haram. A strong mobile police unit fighting in unity will route them out in no time. A welll equiped military with the latest weapons can hardly make headway with just one saboteur within. So the strenght of Boko Haram lies with the constituency support they are getting and their military collaborators. Tell the ones you know that the path they have chosen is not the right one. |
| Re: South African Opposition Leader, Malema, Takes a Swipe at President Jonathan by Tranquill: 7:54pm On Jan 14, 2015 |
johnie: That is the problem here. The opposition and all citizens unite with the government to condenm and fight evil in every decent society. Here the opposition even support and rejoice over evil so they can insult and blame the President. They even blame the government for mischiefs of their own making and expect the country to move foward. |
| Re: South African Opposition Leader, Malema, Takes a Swipe at President Jonathan by Change2015(m): 8:14pm On Jan 14, 2015 |
Tranquill: The Nigerian Army is not a boys scout?... I stopped there. Thanks, bye. #change #GMB #APC 1 Like |
| Re: South African Opposition Leader, Malema, Takes a Swipe at President Jonathan by Elegbede205(m): 8:55pm On Jan 14, 2015 |
Not a fan of politics but Seriously everything about Mr.President just looks like comedy to my eyeball. With only the bombs making headline on a daily basis makes me half-mad, for God sake the people dieing get life na. The worst of it all is that there is no possible solution yet. The country's equation no balance sef and yet the "OTUEKE Goat" still dae campaign. #Change2015. soul Cry 1 Like
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| Re: South African Opposition Leader, Malema, Takes a Swipe at President Jonathan by NaijaOptimist: 9:03pm On Jan 14, 2015 |
barcanista: International cluelessness 1 Like |
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