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Re: Military Takes Delivery Of Attack Helicopters by Nobody: 10:02am On Jan 15, 2015
A quick rational question: I don't understand ow the west would refuse us military hadwares/weapons to fight terrorism wen d european countries r more dan willin to supply,d question now" is it dt d west have a stake or dy r benefiting frm d war or what?"

Food for thought;it is also open to varied interpretations my fellow NL

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Re: Military Takes Delivery Of Attack Helicopters by wazobiaN9(m): 10:12am On Jan 15, 2015
Francon:
Wonderful.... take actions with immediate effect. Jonathan till APC become a club tongue

"take actions with immediate effect".. !!!!!

after years of demolition by BH??!!!

what have you been smoking??!!!
Re: Military Takes Delivery Of Attack Helicopters by melifew213(m): 10:19am On Jan 15, 2015
check dis link out. it will clear ur ignorance http://m.ubersocial.com/user/MrAyeDee?max_id=555590758539882495


PassingShot:


Jonathan's ignorance has infested your brain.

Buhari bought more military hardwares than Mr. Clueless.
Re: Military Takes Delivery Of Attack Helicopters by orits2014: 10:24am On Jan 15, 2015
Abeg them still dey try [quot post=29806518]nonsense!!!!

the battle that could have been fought and won since [/quote]
Re: Military Takes Delivery Of Attack Helicopters by saintade01(m): 10:27am On Jan 15, 2015
orits2014:
It was learnt that some of the items were received at the Port of Lagos and were being moved to designated locations in Abuja and other parts of the country.

Our correspondent sighted several Russian-made Armoured Personnel Carriers being conveyed in long open military trucks along Okenne-Lokoja-Abuja Express Way.

Is this really a secure way of moving this equipments? What happened to Cargo Planes, at least i have seen one that moved about 32 armour tanks in the US at once.

I hope the next batch is not hijacked.
Re: Military Takes Delivery Of Attack Helicopters by kellyJames5(m): 10:49am On Jan 15, 2015
Damager:


u think dis is online order DAT u order yesterday Nd it comes today?? us negotiations broke down followed by south Africa.. guy it takes time to procure weapons
This is what I discovered that most people commenting in here doesn't understand.
Re: Military Takes Delivery Of Attack Helicopters by samally: 10:52am On Jan 15, 2015
holatin:
At last !
dis decision should've been taken a long time ago.
I will give Jonathan kudos to this but hope you buy riffle ?
its needed not all soldier go carry helicopter etc

buy gun the type SWAT team used
Try and make a even a little change before that general kick you out

Jonathan I don't hate you,I just hate how you reason.
God bless you
God bless Nigeria

God bless Buhari


Oga, please go and sit down, did you think buying a weapon is like buying garri at the market..where you purchase and receive instantly...
BUHARI FOR PRESIDENT.
Re: Military Takes Delivery Of Attack Helicopters by ttmacoy: 11:11am On Jan 15, 2015
This one go turn Sambisa forest into Sambisa desert lol

frodobee:
You see am?
Re: Military Takes Delivery Of Attack Helicopters by dasrackhor(m): 11:15am On Jan 15, 2015
mors:
ftc finally.hahahahahahahahahahahahaha.space booked
No u aren't..pls try again later...space unbooked...
Re: Military Takes Delivery Of Attack Helicopters by Osgilliat(m): 11:16am On Jan 15, 2015
all the billions of naira meant for these gadgets that has been swallowed for the past 4 years are now been vomited. they are aware of the fact that their corrupt president will not make it in the coming election. if all the
se gadgets has been supplied at the right time,God knows how many dead soldiers will be alive now. Jonathan your days are numbered. I'm sick of your administration.
Re: Military Takes Delivery Of Attack Helicopters by Nobody: 11:18am On Jan 15, 2015
has released what he believed
would happen in this New Year. One of his
prophecies was that 2015 election would be
a replica of June 12. He said Jonathan should
be prayerful as there are plans to kill him.
Suleiman who head the Auchi-based Omega
Fire Ministries also said the queen of
England and Shehu Shagari may die.
1.There shall be harvest of testimonies
for women looking for fruit of the womb.
2. President Obama needs serious prayers
for his health.
3. I see a woman becoming the president
of America, but her health needs
attention.
4. Britain needs prayers because of her
Queen.
5. I entered the house of former
president Shehu Shagari in the spirit and
I saw RIP; he needs prayers.
6. There shall be agricultural boom this
year.
7. I saw Catholic Reverend Fathers getting
married. I saw a group rising, called “Old
Catholic Church”, they were on fire for
God and caused a revolution.
8. Boko Haram is sponsored by two
people; one is a traditional ruler and the
other is a retired General.
9. Nollywood should stop Unclothedness
and immoral content been shown
because God is not happy.
10. Bola Tinubu, Bode George and king of
Onitsha need prayers.
11. A great Pentecostal man of God been
called to glory. I wept.
12. I see president Goodluck Jonathan
coming back but troubles.
13. I saw people crying in the Oba of
Benin’s house.
14. Libyan election to be cancelled.
15. El Rufai should go and sit down. For
abusing Jesus, he will not win Kaduna
election.
16. Brigade Commander Aso rock should
be changed.
17. Buhari’s health needs attention.
18. Aminu Tambuwal, I saw him leading
Sokoto State.
19. Dangote will not have it smooth this
year; he will drop from Africa’s richest.
20. Patience Jonathan needs serious
prayers.
21. Egypt will have elections.
22. 2015 presidential election will be
rigged, marred in violence and end up in
court case.
23. Thank you Jesus! Finally a Christian is
now the governor of Lagos state.
24. A popular Abuja pastor needs serious
prayers. I saw mourning.
25. I saw the Naira falling greatly. It
became N200 (two hundred naira) to 1$ (a
dollar).
26. I saw Cameroonian soldiers killing
Boko Haram soldiers.
27. Prophets who deceive people, collects
their properties, charge money, will face
great judgment this year.
28. Rochas Okorocha; I saw him moving to
PDP.
29. Contrary to most prophecies, Nigeria
will not break up.
30. Nigerian Government will start
fighting the Gospel and men of God.
31. Military leaders will be changed.
32. There will be plan to kill Goodluck
Jonathan but it will be exposed.
33. I saw governor Amosun return.
34. APC Rivers State needs to do grass
root campaign because I saw the election
been rigged for PDP. Prayers are needed
because of so much bloodshed.
35. Three popular musicians will die; one
of them is a young boy.
36. Former President Obasanjo should go
and make peace with God, Nigeria is not
his problem.
37. The retired Army General one of the
sponsors of Bokoharam, God warned him
recently with his health. The next, God
will take his life.
38. I saw a man win Governorship but not
allowed to govern.
39. I saw attention in Delta state moved
to Agbor.
40. President Gooluck Jonathan should
arrest corrupt leaders. His calmness is
what is empowering them to steal.
41. I saw people who resigned as
ministers to contest election return back
as Federal ministers.
42. I see so much food in Nigeria in 2015.
43. I saw major death in China (I saw
group of kids killed)
44. A great man of God whose first name
begins with 3rd letter and Surname with
15th letter needs serious prayers. I saw
serious crisis and crying. Please let’s pray
for him.
45. Let’s pray against military
intervention and interim government.
46. President election inconclusive, yet
Jonathan declared winner. APC Pray!
47. I don’t see Buhari with credentials to
vie for president.
48. Ghana economy to have terrible and
serious crisis.
49. With the level of bloodshed I saw, it
was better Goodluck goes now to his
village quietly.
50. 2015 election is another June 12. The
man who truly won will not govern or
rule.
Re: Military Takes Delivery Of Attack Helicopters by dasrackhor(m): 11:19am On Jan 15, 2015
Na dis election period everything dey change..ranging from compensation of 2011 affected corpers to ammunition,etc...Oga jonah we aint stupid nor clueless like u nah....Diaris God ooooo,continue...
Re: Military Takes Delivery Of Attack Helicopters by jazzy4naija(m): 11:28am On Jan 15, 2015
What should be the relationship between a democratic state and its armed
forces? It is easier for politicians to play to popular sentiment about “our
boys”
than to address the moral and constitutional issues.
Enshrining the 'military covenant' in statute is doubtless good party politics.
David Cameron has shown himself to be quite shameless in conflating support
for the military with love of country. Promoting Armed Forces Day in 2010, the
Prime Minister called for “an explosion of red white and blue all over the
country”. The implication was that if you had reservations about this, you were
not a good, patriotic citizen and were not doing your duty in support of the
armed forces.
It is de rigueur for politicians to praise the undisputed bravery and skill of
armed forces personnel. But all too often, that has seemed to serve as a
substitute for equipping them properly and taking good care of their needs
when
they return from active service, broken in mind or body. That has to change
but
it is questionable as to whether a legal covenant is the means by which to
provide for those needs. It certainly will do nothing about the hypocrisy,
expediency and lack of vision which so regularly places servicemen and
women
in wholly avoidable situations of suffering and slaughter. (Consider the despots
and hate figures whom the West has been happy to arm and support in the
past: Saddam Hussein, bin Laden, Gaddafi, the Afghan Talibs)
The government argues that soldiers, sailors and aircrew are expected, by the
nature of their employment, to accept the possibility of death or injury and
that
they must be duly rewarded for their willingness to do so. The reality is that
individuals will sometimes be sacrificed for national objectives. Those
objectives
are defined by governments in a manner which frequently takes no account of
the will of the electorate.
So what of the balance of power between people and politicians; politicians
and
military commanders? One clause of the covenant describes "the unique nature
of military land operations [which] means that the army differs from all other
institutions, and must be sustained and provided for accordingly by the
Nation"
and concludes that this creates “a mutual obligation”.
Between the civil power of a democratic state and its military, the relationship
is
one of command and subservience. This is not a “mutual obligation” in any
legal
sense. Control of the military must always be in the hands of elected
politicians
(except in extreme circumstances where commanders believe they have been
given orders which are illegal) and anything which could dilute or obfuscate
that
is potentially dangerous and undemocratic. Making laws which have not been
thought through may have profoundly serious constitutional consequences.
Certainly, the care, housing, pay and support of service personnel should be of
the highest standard. (As, by the way, should that of fire-fighters, lifeboat
crews, police and mountain rescue teams – all highly skilled and courageous
people who uncomplainingly put their lives at risk for the protection and safety
of their fellow citizens.)
But this does not require a legal arrangement which has the potential to alter
the relationship between politicians and generals. The former must always
have
primacy and must learn to take greater heed of the will of the people and of
parliament before committing service personnel to conflict situations.
We need to serve our armed forces better. The covenant says "British soldiers
must always be able to expect fair treatment, to be valued and respected as
individuals." The best way to meet those rights is to advocate for greater
integrity in international affairs, for anticipation of international flashpoints to
avoid conflict, and for the devoting of resources to resolving conflict when it
does occur.
When that is done, politicians can rightfully demand a loyal and obedient
response from the armed forces under their control. That is the covenant for
which we should strive. It is a moral covenant, not a legal one.

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Re: Military Takes Delivery Of Attack Helicopters by seangy4konji: 11:44am On Jan 15, 2015
What's the website of Nigerian army?

Why are computer engineering and information graduates jobless or sourcing for themselves when they can be establishing a good database management and information security and integrity for Nigeria but the lucky ones are either slave working in a bank instead of making us a working country.

I deh vecks for Nigeria.

We soppose deh live like kings I swear. We con deh suffer for our father land?

Time will tell I swear.
Re: Military Takes Delivery Of Attack Helicopters by seangy4konji: 11:46am On Jan 15, 2015
What's the website of Nigerian army?

Why are computer engineering and information graduates jobless or sourcing for themselves when they can be establishing a good database management and information security and integrity for Nigeria but the lucky ones are either slave working in a bank instead of making us a working country.

I deh vecks for Nigeria.

We soppose deh live like kings I swear. We con deh suffer for our father land?

Time will tell I swear.

Display this hardware.. The generals v diverted our money to cayman island and Swiss bank accts.

No mercy for a corrupt official. Enough.
Re: Military Takes Delivery Of Attack Helicopters by skyp(m): 11:57am On Jan 15, 2015
What exactly does the op want to achieve by this post? Can't our security agents have any secret @all?
Re: Military Takes Delivery Of Attack Helicopters by deletrue: 11:58am On Jan 15, 2015
ichidodo:
We wasted so much time looking to the west for military hardware aid...Excellent policy shift to the East,we hope we get their world renowned heavy weaponry BMPs, T-70s,Hinds and Ak-74 platforms....With these shooters, we don't mind voluntaring for service free of charge....On the condition they send us to Tank school in Russia for Target-ranging,gunnery and sabot-loading training..
He be like say you be senior military personnel. See your descrption of the military wapons, especially the last paragraph. I dey like intelligent people.

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Re: Military Takes Delivery Of Attack Helicopters by ehemwhy(m): 11:59am On Jan 15, 2015
[quote author=saintade01 post=29809786]

Is this really a secure way of moving this equipments? What happened to Cargo Planes, at least i have seen one that moved about 32 armour tanks in the US at once.

I hope the next batch is not hijacked.

Do you know how heavy an armoured tank is ? At least 100 tons. There is no cargo plane that can carry 5 tanks at once - not even the antonovs -not to talk of 32 tanks
Re: Military Takes Delivery Of Attack Helicopters by jazzy4naija(m): 12:04pm On Jan 15, 2015
Re: Military Takes Delivery Of Attack Helicopters by holatin(m): 12:11pm On Jan 15, 2015
[quote author=samally post=29810397][/quote]wetin dis one dey talk.
I need two thing from you
Research how many years buhari use then
research about the ammunition in his regime ?
then get back to me
Re: Military Takes Delivery Of Attack Helicopters by deletrue: 12:12pm On Jan 15, 2015
GEJ and military should know how to distribute these items. He should be very careful of the north east who hate him so much. To me, if not that Kaduna and kano are the hot places, no point taking any of these items to those places. They are the sponsorers of these evils, especially boko haram.
Re: Military Takes Delivery Of Attack Helicopters by swezenberg(m): 12:28pm On Jan 15, 2015
Thank God the President finally woke up even though we know it is because of the election at least we will record less casualties for the time being.
Re: Military Takes Delivery Of Attack Helicopters by oluamid(m): 12:38pm On Jan 15, 2015
clefstone:
If only previous govts did the needful, this monster called BH wud hv been crushed long ago by d NA. Kudos to the commander in chief, his Excellency, Goodluck Ebele Jonathan GCFR for equipping the military. The same Generals who paralyzed the military are those dancing naked in d market square, all in a bid to taint GEJ. I luv my president


Previous governments didn't have to deal with boko haram, sire.
Re: Military Takes Delivery Of Attack Helicopters by clefstone(m): 1:11pm On Jan 15, 2015
oluamid:



Previous governments didn't have to deal with boko haram, sire.
you prepare for such situations before they present themselves, not after, sir
Re: Military Takes Delivery Of Attack Helicopters by mbz101(m): 2:05pm On Jan 15, 2015
Anyway I saw the aromour on Ibadan expressway . Make dem use ham against party politics . I talk my mind oo
Re: Military Takes Delivery Of Attack Helicopters by gulfer: 2:09pm On Jan 15, 2015
I hope this artillery just procured will not be turned on the opposition. angry angry angry
Re: Military Takes Delivery Of Attack Helicopters by emeka2847: 2:39pm On Jan 15, 2015
Another story from "SOURCE" who has no name. Tell it to the goons.

GMB till Jona gives a damn!
Re: Military Takes Delivery Of Attack Helicopters by spinna: 6:37pm On Jan 15, 2015
Re: Military Takes Delivery Of Attack Helicopters by komekn(m): 11:35pm On Jan 15, 2015
Phinity318:
A quick rational question: I don't understand ow the west would refuse us military hadwares/weapons to fight terrorism wen d european countries r more dan willin to supply,d question now" is it dt d west have a stake or dy r benefiting frm d war or what?"

Food for thought;it is also open to varied interpretations my fellow NL


Military procurement in the west follows extremely stringent protocols and standards of probity are very high particularly when it is nation to nation procurement there are no middlemen contractors, the opportunity for EGUNJE, Kickback, 10% is near zero.

Having this in mind, these procurement applications are specifically detailed and not general and are open to legislative scrutiny. I ask the question WHERE DID NIGERIA make a military procurement application to a western nation and it was refused when, where and by whom.

All we have are smoke screens and hearsay on our papers by shameless politicians telling to the informed obvious lies, deceiving the gullible and uninformed public who are celebrating mediocrity in not fit for purpose over priced military acquisitions.

By the way those standards of probity and procurement disappear completely when you procure from China, Russia, Ukraine and Poland, you can buy tokunboh anything and declare it as NEW.

This is an area I have composite knowledge.

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Re: Military Takes Delivery Of Attack Helicopters by Nobody: 6:23am On Jan 16, 2015
komekn:



Military procurement in the west follows extremely stringent protocols and standards of probity are very high particularly when it is nation to nation procurement there are no middlemen contractors, the opportunity for EGUNJE, Kickback, 10% is near zero.

Having this in mind, these procurement applications are specifically detailed and not general and are open to legislative scrutiny. I ask the question WHERE DID NIGERIA make a military procurement application to a western nation and it was refused when, where and by whom.

All we have are smoke screens and hearsay on our papers by shameless politicians telling to the informed obvious lies, deceiving the gullible and uninformed public who are celebrating mediocrity in not fit for purpose over priced military acquisitions.

By the way those standards of probity and procurement disappear completely when you procure from China, Russia, Ukraine and Poland, you can buy tokunboh anything and declare it as NEW.

This is an area I have composite knowledge.
Wow! Tankx for such a detailed xplanation, now I know better! mediocrity ,political ineptitude of our politicians
Re: Military Takes Delivery Of Attack Helicopters by Nobody: 10:40am On Jan 16, 2015
coolluk:


u checked, awwwwwn
Before nko

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