scholes0:


I won’t be surprised if they send a delegation to this particular area of Edo state by next week, forcing the Kings there to start wearing skirts and circular beads to look loke their Benin Oba.
Yes, it is that serious- and they can do it.

scholes0:


I won’t be surprised if they send a delegation to this particular area of Edo state by next week, forcing the Kings there to start wearing skirts and circular beads to look loke their Benin Oba.
Yes, it is that serious- and they can do it.

Deadlytruth:


The original name of Benin is Igodomigodo and their Kings were from prehistoric times known as Ogisos. Could you please tell us what Igodomigodo and Ogiso mean in Yoruba Language?
Cross-cultural interaction with Yorubas brought about the "Ile Ibinu" thing which is an inconclusive account itself as it leaves more questions than answers. Same war cross-cultural interaction with Portuguese got Bini corrupted to Benin. If Binis came out of Ife, then how come Benin City went on to grow and become far larger than Ife in land area and population?
I recall that this was the same logic a Yoruba guy here once used to counter the claim of a Bini man who claimed that Yorubas came out of Binis. The Yoruba man specifically asked him to explain how possible for Yorubas to have come out of Binis and went ahead to so expand as to become a larger tribe than Bini.
Same applies here to the suggestion that Binis came out of Ife. So please answer.

AxxeMan:


Tell us the part of Edo you served! Liar, No Edo man who hasn't stayed in Yoruba land before understand or speak Yoruba as it is a foreign and strange language .... Stop spewing cheap lies !!

Even your own local language you speak in ekiti a typical Yoruba from Osun or Oyo does not understand and your language has been called gibberish numerous times by the Yoruba's I schooled with.

You don't even know your history , ooh you think you are really Yoruba?... Or believe you will ever be fully accepted by Osun and Oyo ppl?

Reality would dawn on you soon!!

Bibi294:

Why are you so bitter? I served in Irrua LGA and I visited most Edo towns... Even in Benin, some understand and speak Yoruba....
I though you're mature... Ordinary argument, you're already spitting... I'm from Osun.and I based I'm Ekiti... Oya del with it...

CooperJay:


I am holding back my temper right now, kindly disist from making false statements I am from irrua and no one there speaks Yoruba outside those who might have lived in Yoruba land at some point .... Yoruba is not a lingua in Edo state , disist from such statement... Cheers

Bibi294:

Sheybi you're educated? Like you passed through school? Canyou read between the line?s... Do I say Yoruba is Edo lingua biko? Please, I'm not in for argument.. Just making assertions that parts of Edo people speaks Yoruba fluently...

CooperJay:


NO PART OF EDO SPEAKS YORUBA!! GET THAT IN YO

UR HEAD!!



I tried to be reasonable and polite with u but as always they were right wen they say that doesn't work with people of Yoruba extraction!!

Bibi294:

Edo is Edo, they are not Yoruba's but at least we're all Nigerians... Then, it's enough...

CooperJay:
[[s]quote author=Olu317 post=63720621]Quite interesting reading this with the rhetoric in it. However, ILE IFE as a place of formation of the people whose ancestors of the founding fathers were of different groups was the rightful place from which Oranmiyan( Oranyan) moved to different part to form his new dynastic rule. This event happened in two different places before he returned back to his base in ILE IFE. If the Oba Bini, is truthfully a descendant of orannmiyan, then no need for the supremacy tussle over this contradictory information because, according to oral information, Oranyan was the one that called that land ILE IBINU, because of the attitude of the people he met in that land. There was no time, that Yoruba ever claimed Edo as its own but claim Oba and the new founded territory CALLED ILE IBINU, which was created out of Igodomigodo, that was founded the Ogiso dynasty. The oba Bini is a “property" of Oranmiyan if truthfully they are his descendants. The Portuguese didn't know any name as such unless they were told by the indigenous people, themselves. What does Benin mean to Portuguese and its Portuguese foundational meaning ? I am aware there is Lagos or closely related name in Portugal as it is also a name attached to a Yoruba settlement in Nigeria. And the Lagos in Nigeria, has a Portuguese advent. There is Lagos in Mexico. There is Port Novou in Bénin Republic and it has a Portuguese meaning. If the Edo people decided to seize the Oba Bini historical connection to Yoruba, then that's left for them as far as I am concerned. But let truth prevail. [/s]

The same Oromiyan that is a grandson to Ogiso Owodo!

Don't redicle yourself and your tribe , don't you Yoruba's have better things to do other that lusting after the greatness of the Edo's!

Even your Oni now bows and kneels down to greet politicians and yahoo boys

historyworld031:
I think the best is to ignore these yoruba trolls who are obsessed with the Edo.
I don't have their time, I would rather do something usefull with my life than spend it here repeating myself countless times to some yoruba fools who believe they know us EDO better than we know ourselves.
I don't get the very concept of this discussion with the yoruba who don't seem to have any sense of minding one's own business.

historyworld031:
You still don't get it eventhough I have said this many times on this same thread.
Edo state is a small part of the Benin Kingdom.
Therefor how can you claim to be talking about Edo state and not about the Benin Kingdom.
I guess you are one of those people who don't understand that Benin City is not equal to Benin Kingdom. (I already said that).
Benin City is the capital of the kingdom !
Next time read and try to educate yourself before unintentionnally playing the part of the ignorant black man who knows nothing but believes he can teach everything.

historyworld031:
Some foolish yoruba think Edo need yoruba permission to exist. You guys can just keep dreaming of us joigning your fake yoruba "tribe". We know ourselves and we will not let outsiders devide us.

ezanafe:
No need for argument my people. I am from Ibillo and in fact i live there currently so i know my ORIGIN, those who don't know theirs should please find out and stop misconceptions on this thread. #I KNOW MY ORIGIN.

Redoil:
i put it to you that they are not from Yoruba land. Yoruba people know ho to re write history to make it look as if every other tribe arround them are from Yoruba.

GuidoVanRossum:
Someone just brought my attention to this thread. Redoil, I salute your courage. The people of Ibillo are a bit confused about their origin. Yes, a part of them may be from Yoruba land cos even some of their street have Yoruba name. I've worked with a student of history on a project to establish the history. One time they say the name was derived when their ancestors came from Ife and decided to take a rest after hunting and farming around. So it was named "Ibi la lo"
(this is where we use), another time they say they came alongside the akoko people of ondo state and the name Ibillo is the name of their ancestor (Ilo) so they decided to call the place Ibi Ilo (The place of Ilo). Truthfully, this area are late comers to education and so their history was handed to them by the Yorubas whom they've been so used to.

I see a lot of lies here that the lingua franca of Akoko-Edo is Yoruba. This is so untrue. Maybe before I was born (early 80s), since I begin to know myself, an average Akoko-Edo person speaks pidgin as lingua franca. In facts, a lot don't even understand yoruba language (the younger generation) except those of us who have lived in Yoruba land.

If you noticed, the Yorubas tried to rewrite our history (Ososo) but it failed because we already have our history handed to us by our fore fathers.




PS: I'm from the Okogbe family in Udurhevbo.



Cc ezanafe.

OlaoChi:


But it is not wrong to say Yoruba factors exist among the Akoko-Edos

This is what some have tried to deny when it is so clear

OlaoChi:


But it is not wrong to say Yoruba factors exist among the Akoko-Edos

This is what some have tried to deny when it is so clear

Deadlytruth:


No one has tried to deny it. What they are trying to pass across is that it has almost been eradicated at least awareness wise.

OlaoChi:


You have. So have two others from this thread

You might want to scroll up and read past comnents

GuidoVanRossum:




I've been trying to see if I know you. Where in Ibillo do you live? If you live in Ibillo, I'm sure you will know me or at least one of my younger brother.

ezanafe:
Let's use Ibillo as a case study:

It has been proven historical that the founder of Ibillo was a man who came directly from Ile-Ife who later settled in the present day Ibillo... He was a visitor who sought for some space in the land, which was given to him. Hence the name "Ibillo"...

"Ibi" means place, "Ilo" mean use... If the two words are jointed, it connotes "Ibillo" which means "Lend me this place for use"...

AxxeMan:


No part of Akoko Edo came from ile ife

Even the ilo you talk about is an Edo Word .

You might be the OP , but from what I see you are already compromised so your say is irrelevant!!

ezanafe:

There is always an element of truth in every irrelevance..

9jakool:

Very few people points this out, but there are Yoruba-speaking minority communities in Ovia.
I don't know the popularity of Usen dialect today, but the town of Usen and the surrounding communities in Ovia NE speak a distinct Yoruba dialect.
Yoruba communities in Ovia NE local government include
Egbeta
Usen
Ilorin
Ogbese
Ago Panu
Uhen

The Ikale dialect can be found in parts of Ovia SW local government area adjacent to Irele Local Government in Ondo state.
The Yoruba speaking communities in Ovia SW include
Siluko
Ago Akinde
Kekere
Foniyege
Lakolako
Gbelemotin Oke
Gbelemotin Odo