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Native Mobile Internet App Or Responsive Site? by chim14(m): 1:26am On Jan 23, 2015
This year 2015, BBC have decided to revamp their entire official website to a Responsive one, to brighten up user experience across various screen sizes which include: PCs, Smartphones and tablet display.

Now that's one, their second technological enhancement was on their mobile app for Android and Windows phone.

The head of the team to whom the project was assigned was asked this question(and I put it in my own words), "Why not build a responsive site to slim fit the project budget?" and he gave a dry response "It's good to maintain both technologies"

So my Programmers in the house what's your view. will you love to go Responsive or keep building apps for all the platform specific mobile device? Because to me, css, javascript, jquery and ajax does all the front-end magic.

Mr. Chim.
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Re: Native Mobile Internet App Or Responsive Site? by JackOfAllTrades: 3:35am On Jan 23, 2015
Building a responsive site to me it's a lot better, but the downside with hybrid web apps and native apps is speed, the fact that hybrid apps run on Single threads makes it slow and sometimes crashes on device with lower ram power

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Re: Native Mobile Internet App Or Responsive Site? by Dameety: 2:35pm On Jan 23, 2015
This is a good read: www.ektron.com/Blogs/Adrian-Lloyd/Responsive-Web-Design-or-Native-Apps---What-s-the-real-future-of-mobile-advertising-/

It all depends on a few factors, of which the most important is function.
Would the app function well on responsive site/Hybrid/Native?
Which would I(developer) prefer if I were the user?
I just saw this: www.mobiloud.com/blog/2012/06/native-web-or-hybrid-apps/
Re: Native Mobile Internet App Or Responsive Site? by chim14(m): 4:19pm On Jan 24, 2015
@ Dameety
Cool links - funny coincidence...
Re: Native Mobile Internet App Or Responsive Site? by guru01(m): 8:08pm On Jan 24, 2015
it all boils down to your end users, what kind of device they use. There are so many fact to consider, like who your target market is.
Re: Native Mobile Internet App Or Responsive Site? by Nobody: 9:10pm On Jan 24, 2015
[s]A complete native app will allow you to use the app when there is no internet connection and then connects to the internet when internet connection is available.[/s]

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Re: Native Mobile Internet App Or Responsive Site? by cyrielo(m): 9:29pm On Jan 24, 2015
Febup:
A complete native app will allow you to use the app when there is no internet connection and then connects to the internet when internet connection is available.
a complete hybrid app I created will allow you to use the app when there is no internet connection and then connects to the internet when internet connection is available too

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Re: Native Mobile Internet App Or Responsive Site? by Nobody: 9:27am On Jan 25, 2015
cyrielo:
a complete hybrid app I created will allow you to use the app when there is no internet connection and then connects to the internet when internet connection is available too

Try clearing your mobile device cache and see if you can still use your hybrid app without internet connection. A completed native app can interact with the native code which will allow you to write objects to the device's hard drive so that the app can run without internet connection, [s]but hybrid apps cannot interact with the native code in order to write objects to the hard drive it can only store data in the browser cache[/s] and once you clear the cache you you need internet connection before the hybrid app will run again.

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Re: Native Mobile Internet App Or Responsive Site? by guru01(m): 10:41am On Jan 25, 2015
Febup:


Try clearing your mobile device cache and see if you can still use your hybrid app without internet connection. A completed native app can interact with the native code which will allow you to write objects to the device's hard drive so that the app can run without internet connection, but hybrid apps cannot interact with the native code in order to write objects to the hard drive it can only store data in the browser cache and once you clear the cache you you need internet connection before the hybrid app will run again.

haven't you use html5 storage feature, and if you are talking about clearing of cache, it works the same for all app.
Re: Native Mobile Internet App Or Responsive Site? by Nobody: 10:49am On Jan 25, 2015
guru01:


haven't you use html5 storage feature, and if you are talking about clearing of cache, it works the same for all app.

No it does not work the same for all apps. Native apps can interact with the native code, hybrid apps cannot, which makes the difference.
Re: Native Mobile Internet App Or Responsive Site? by cyrielo(m): 10:49am On Jan 25, 2015
Febup:


Try clearing your mobile device cache and see if you can still use your hybrid app without internet connection. A completed native app can interact with the native code which will allow you to write objects to the device's hard drive so that the app can run without internet connection, but hybrid apps cannot interact with the native code in order to write objects to the hard drive it can only store data in the browser cache and once you clear the cache you will need internet connection before the hybrid app will run again.
Hybrid apps are limited to the number of plugins available, there is a plugin that allows you to write object to the internal storage or external storage of the device, i build native apps as well and if you clear app data of a native app all cached data will be deleted permanently, and you will need internet to get them back. the only difference between a native app and the hybrid app will be perfomance issue due to its single threaded nature.
Re: Native Mobile Internet App Or Responsive Site? by Nobody: 10:59am On Jan 25, 2015
I find this to be a very good comparison:

https://developer.salesforce.com/page/Native,_HTML5,_or_Hybrid:_Understanding_Your_Mobile_Application_Development_Options
Three types of apps:
Native apps are specific to a given mobile platform (iOS or Android) using the development tools and language that the respective platform supports (e.g., Xcode and Objective-C with iOS, Eclipse and Java with Android). Native apps look and perform the best.

HTML5 apps use standard web technologies—typically HTML5, JavaScript and CSS. This write-once-run-anywhere approach to mobile development creates cross-platform mobile applications that work on multiple devices. While developers can create sophisticated apps with HTML5 and JavaScript alone, some vital limitations remain at the time of this writing, specifically session management, secure offline storage, and access to native device functionality (camera, calendar, geolocation, etc.)

Hybrid apps make it possible to embed HTML5 apps inside a thin native container, combining the best (and worst) elements of native and HTML5 apps.

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Re: Native Mobile Internet App Or Responsive Site? by cyrielo(m): 11:07am On Jan 25, 2015
^^ DId you read the conclusion of that article ? case closed grin
Re: Native Mobile Internet App Or Responsive Site? by Nobody: 11:30am On Jan 25, 2015
cyrielo:
^^ DId you read the conclusion of that article ? case closed grin

Native apps will remain the best option until hybrid has direct access rather than being embedded in a thin native container: "Hybrid apps make it possible to embed HTML5 apps inside a thin native container"
Re: Native Mobile Internet App Or Responsive Site? by guru01(m): 12:03pm On Jan 25, 2015
have you written an app that 70% or more of the codes are pure javascript?
have you written an app base on the platorm specific api? that is if you are writting for black berry use their api to code your app?
have you written an app mixing c++ and javascript or html
most people thin that when they say hybrid app, it must consist of html,css and javascript.
Re: Native Mobile Internet App Or Responsive Site? by guru01(m): 12:15pm On Jan 25, 2015
Febup:


No it does not work the same for all apps. Native apps can interact with the native code, hybrid apps cannot, which makes the difference.

what do you mean by interacting with native code, because i think differently.
Re: Native Mobile Internet App Or Responsive Site? by Nobody: 12:35pm On Jan 25, 2015
guru01:


what do you mean by interacting with native code, because i think differently.

What I meant was direct access to the native code rather than being embedded in a thin container.
Re: Native Mobile Internet App Or Responsive Site? by chim14(m): 2:15pm On Jan 25, 2015
I believe that it's one million percent possible to write an entire app with just javascript, using node.js for the business logic.
Re: Native Mobile Internet App Or Responsive Site? by Nobody: 3:29pm On Jan 25, 2015
chim14:
I believe that it's one million percent possible to write an entire app with just javascript, using node.js for the business logic.

I agree with you on this after watching a demo on node.js, I can say node.js is the next big thing in JavaScript since AJAX.

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Re: Native Mobile Internet App Or Responsive Site? by guru01(m): 8:34pm On Jan 25, 2015
Febup:


What I meant was direct access to the native code rather than being embedded in a thin container.
Have you developed with Sencha?
Re: Native Mobile Internet App Or Responsive Site? by Nobody: 11:44pm On Jan 25, 2015
guru01:

Have you developed with Sencha?

Not yet. I'll try and give it a go.
Re: Native Mobile Internet App Or Responsive Site? by Oleksii: 5:08pm On Feb 06, 2018
Recently I was searching the info on this theme and found this interesting article named From Website to Mobile App – Your Four Best Options: https://eze.tech/blog/from-website-to-mobile-app%E2%80%93your-four-best-options

Some thought from it: Building native apps for every platform is the best choice in terms of performance and product quality but it is also the most expensive approach. If you have a web application already, you’ll only need to build mobile clients for Android mobile app and iOS mobile app, that will be connected to the same backend that your web client is. Minor changes may be still needed on the backend but this shouldn’t take much time.
Re: Native Mobile Internet App Or Responsive Site? by aanchalkaura(f): 11:24am On Jun 13, 2018
Well I was searching for the same solution and found this post- https://www.seasiainfotech.com/blog/native-vs-hybrid-vs-cross-platform-apps/
I like this post because here I gained knowledge about other platforms also.
Must read this post. You will thank me later wink
Re: Native Mobile Internet App Or Responsive Site? by Bessalitskykh: 3:49pm On Nov 27, 2018
Hi, everyone!

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Follow this article to find out the detailed comparison of the unique aspects of native vs hybrid app, as well as native vs web app.
Re: Native Mobile Internet App Or Responsive Site? by ensodev(m): 10:59pm On Nov 28, 2018
Febup:


I agree with you on this after watching a demo on node.js, I can say node.js is the next big thing in JavaScript since AJAX.

Nice talk
Re: Native Mobile Internet App Or Responsive Site? by DanielDanYSBM(m): 5:41pm On May 05, 2020
Hi!

Thank you for sharing your knowledges.

I also have some tips how to reduce the costs of building a mobile app while crisis here: https://y-sbm.com/blog/what-is-the-cost-of-creating-a-mobile-app-in-2020
Hope it will be useful for everyone.

Good luck!

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