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The Jizya Tax,a Robbery by malvisguy212: 7:37am On Feb 05, 2015
Allah’s commandment to fight the Jews and Christians is not because they were
attacking or even planning to attack the
Muslims but because the Muslims feared poverty.

A new situation developed,
resulting in the sudden loss of trade for
Muslims This was because Allah now
prohibited the polytheist from entering
the sacred Mosque in Mecca.

Well, what was Allah’s solution for the
financial reversal of the Muslims? Yes!
Attack the Jews and Christians and let
them compensate for the loss of trade.
This is made clear in Surah 9:28 (the
verse preceding Surah 9:29). We will
have to read both verses together to
understand the clear message of these
verses.

Surah 9:28-29: O ye who believe!
Truly the Pagans are unclean; so let
them not, after this year of theirs,
approach the Sacred Mosque. And if
YE FEAR POVERTY, soon will Allah
ENRICHED YOU , if He wills, out of His
bounty, for Allah is All-knowing, All-
wise. Fight those who believe not in
Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that
forbidden which hath been forbidden
by Allah and His Messenger, nor
acknowledge the religion of Truth,
even if they are of the People of the
Book, until they PAY THE JIZYA with
willing submission and feel
themselves subdued.

Allah prohibited the polytheist to enter the sacred mosque, this will lead to sudden poverty and the Muslims knows it, so "they fear' verse 28 talk about the idea and the solution was given in verse 29.

It is all about money. The Tafsir by Ibn
Kathir clarifies the Historical Context
for Allah’s purpose in revealing Surah
9:28-29.
Ibn Kathir, The Battles of the Prophet,
pp. 183-4:
Allah, Most High, ordered the
believers to prohibit the
disbelievers from entering or
coming near the sacred Mosque. On
that, Quraish thought that this
would reduce their profits from
trade. Therefore, Allah, Most High,
compensated them and ordered
them to fight the people of the
Book until they embrace Islam or
pay the Jizyah. Allah says, “O ye who
believe! Truly the pagans are
unclean; so let them not, after this
year of theirs, approach the sacred
Mosque. And if ye fear poverty, soon
will Allah enrich you, if He wills, out
of His bounty, for Allah is All-
Knowing, All-Wise. Fight those who
believe not in Allah nor the Last Day,
nor hold that forbidden which hath
been forbidden by Allah and His
Messenger, nor acknowledge the
religion of Truth, from among the
People of the Book, until they pay the
Jizyah with willing submission, and
feel themselves subdued.” (Surah
9:28-29) Therefore, the Messenger of
Allah decided to fight the Romans in
order to call them to Islam.
“Therefore, the Messenger of Allah
decided to fight the Romans .” The
Romans were Christians. “The
Messenger of Allah decided to fight
the Romans” not because the Romans
were attacking or planning to attack the
Muslims but because of Allah’s command
in Surah 9:29. It was a unilateral attack
by the Muslims because of Allah’s
solution for their impending poverty.
Should any Christian convert to Isla

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Re: The Jizya Tax,a Robbery by malvisguy212: 7:38am On Feb 05, 2015
The quran truth is strange from the bible, what God opposed in the bible, the quranic god approved of it.

Deuteronomy 10:17-19: For Jehovah
your God is the God of gods and the
Lord of lords, the God great, mighty
and fear-inspiring, who treats none
with partiality nor accepts a bribe,
executing judgment for the fatherless
boy and the widow and loving the
foreign resident so as to give him
bread and clothing. You too must
love the foreign resident , for you
became alien residents in the land of
Egypt.
Leviticus 19:9-10: And when you
people reap the harvest of your land,
you must not reap the edge of your
field completely and the leftovers of
your harvest you must not pick up.
You must not gather the leftovers of
your vineyard and you must not pick
up the scattered grapes of your
vineyard. For the afflicted one and
the foreign resident you should
leave them. I am Jehovah your God.
Leviticus 19:33-34: And in case a
foreign resident resides with you as
an alien in your land, you must not
mistreat him. The foreign resident
who resides as an alien with you
should become to you like a native of
yours; and you must love him as
yourself, for you became foreign
residents in the land of Egypt. I am
Jehovah your God.
Re: The Jizya Tax,a Robbery by malvisguy212: 11:02am On Feb 05, 2015
Were are the Muslims?
Re: The Jizya Tax,a Robbery by Ifeann(f): 6:19pm On Feb 05, 2015
malvisguy212:
The quran truth is strange from the bible, what God opposed in the bible, the quranic god approved of it.

Deuteronomy 10:17-19: For Jehovah
your God is the God of gods and the
Lord of lords, the God great, mighty
and fear-inspiring, who treats none
with partiality nor accepts a bribe,
executing judgment for the fatherless
boy and the widow and loving the
foreign resident so as to give him
bread and clothing. You too must
love the foreign resident , for you
became alien residents in the land of
Egypt.
Leviticus 19:9-10: And when you
people reap the harvest of your land,
you must not reap the edge of your
field completely and the leftovers of
your harvest you must not pick up.
You must not gather the leftovers of
your vineyard and you must not pick
up the scattered grapes of your
vineyard. For the afflicted one and
the foreign resident you should
leave them. I am Jehovah your God.
Leviticus 19:33-34: And in case a
foreign resident resides with you as
an alien in your land, you must not
mistreat him. The foreign resident
who resides as an alien with you
should become to you like a native of
yours; and you must love him as
yourself, for you became foreign
residents in the land of Egypt. I am
Jehovah your God.

The contrast is clear. Thanks for this insight.
Re: The Jizya Tax,a Robbery by malvisguy212: 6:45pm On Feb 05, 2015
Ifeann:


The contrast is clear. Thanks for this insight.
God bless you sister, how was your day going? Hope fine? Thank God.
Re: The Jizya Tax,a Robbery by truthman2012(m): 9:22pm On Feb 05, 2015
''Fight those who believe not
in
Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold
that
forbidden which hath been
forbidden
by Allah and His Messenger, nor
acknowledge the religion of
Truth,
even if they are of the People of
the
Book, until they PAY THE JIZYA
with
willing submission and feel
themselves subdued.''

I have been wondering:

- What disbelief in allah by Jews and Christians has to do with paying jizya, I never knew Muhammad was looking for MONEY as he was broke.

- What was Muhammad's job to maintain his many wives and jihadists numbering thousands. I never knew it was robbery.

Jesus lived on gifts and Judas was the purse keeper.

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Re: The Jizya Tax,a Robbery by malvisguy212: 8:58am On Feb 13, 2015
truthman2012:


''Fight those who believe not
in
Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold
that
forbidden which hath been
forbidden
by Allah and His Messenger, nor
acknowledge the religion of
Truth,
even if they are of the People of
the
Book, until they PAY THE JIZYA
with
willing submission and feel
themselves subdued.''

I have been wondering:

- What disbelief in allah by Jews and Christians has to do with paying jizya, I never knew Muhammad was looking for MONEY as he was broke.

- What was Muhammad's job to maintain his many wives and jihadists numbering thousands. I never knew it was robbery.

Jesus lived on gifts and Judas was the purse keeper.

Re: The Jizya Tax,a Robbery by malvisguy212: 7:41am On May 21, 2015
malvisguy212:
Allah’s commandment to fight the Jews and Christians is not because they were
attacking or even planning to attack the
Muslims but because the Muslims feared poverty.

A new situation developed,
resulting in the sudden loss of trade for
Muslims This was because Allah now
prohibited the polytheist from entering
the sacred Mosque in Mecca.

Well, what was Allah’s solution for the
financial reversal of the Muslims? Yes!
Attack the Jews and Christians and let
them compensate for the loss of trade.
This is made clear in Surah 9:28 (the
verse preceding Surah 9:29). We will
have to read both verses together to
understand the clear message of these
verses.

Surah 9:28-29: O ye who believe!
Truly the Pagans are unclean; so let
them not, after this year of theirs,
approach the Sacred Mosque. And if
YE FEAR POVERTY, soon will Allah
ENRICHED YOU , if He wills, out of His
bounty, for Allah is All-knowing, All-
wise. Fight those who believe not in
Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that
forbidden which hath been forbidden
by Allah and His Messenger, nor
acknowledge the religion of Truth,
even if they are of the People of the
Book, until they PAY THE JIZYA with
willing submission and feel
themselves subdued.

Allah prohibited the polytheist to enter the sacred mosque, this will lead to sudden poverty and the Muslims knows it, so "they fear' verse 28 talk about the idea and the solution was given in verse 29.

It is all about money. The Tafsir by Ibn
Kathir clarifies the Historical Context
for Allah’s purpose in revealing Surah
9:28-29.
Ibn Kathir, The Battles of the Prophet,
pp. 183-4:
Allah, Most High, ordered the
believers to prohibit the
disbelievers from entering or
coming near the sacred Mosque. On
that, Quraish thought that this
would reduce their profits from
trade. Therefore, Allah, Most High,
compensated them and ordered
them to fight the people of the
Book until they embrace Islam or
pay the Jizyah. Allah says, “O ye who
believe! Truly the pagans are
unclean; so let them not, after this
year of theirs, approach the sacred
Mosque. And if ye fear poverty, soon
will Allah enrich you, if He wills, out
of His bounty, for Allah is All-
Knowing, All-Wise. Fight those who
believe not in Allah nor the Last Day,
nor hold that forbidden which hath
been forbidden by Allah and His
Messenger, nor acknowledge the
religion of Truth, from among the
People of the Book, until they pay the
Jizyah with willing submission, and
feel themselves subdued.” (Surah
9:28-29) Therefore, the Messenger of
Allah decided to fight the Romans in
order to call them to Islam.
“Therefore, the Messenger of Allah
decided to fight the Romans .” The
Romans were Christians. “The
Messenger of Allah decided to fight
the Romans” not because the Romans
were attacking or planning to attack the
Muslims but because of Allah’s command
in Surah 9:29. It was a unilateral attack
by the Muslims because of Allah’s
solution for their impending poverty.
Should any Christian convert to Isla
Re: The Jizya Tax,a Robbery by Ifeann(f): 8:29am On May 21, 2015
[quote author=malvisguy212 post=33946940][/quote]

The Muslims have nothing to say because of how clearly you have presented the truth to them. Millions of Muslims are on welfare in western countries and receiving free money, so they troop into those countries while Christians and Jews are paying jizyah in Islamic countries.

I detest Islam. A religion of hypocrisy

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Re: The Jizya Tax,a Robbery by truthman2012(m): 10:29am On May 21, 2015
Narrated Ibn 'Umar that the Prophet (SA) said, "My livelihood is under the shade of my spear,(1) and he who disobeys my orders will be humiliated by paying Jizya" Footnote: (1) "Under the shade of my spear" means "from war booty" .[5] Sahih Bukhari Vol.IV (page 104

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Re: The Jizya Tax,a Robbery by tartar9(m): 10:41am On May 21, 2015
you'll Ingrates do you know what the Jizya is,which western country are Muslims favoured to pay lower taxes than non-muslims.
Re: The Jizya Tax,a Robbery by Nobody: 10:47am On May 21, 2015
tartar9:
you'll Ingrates do you know what the Jizya is,which western country are Muslims favoured to pay lower taxes than non-muslims.

Which kind of daft mo.ronic statement is this? angry

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Re: The Jizya Tax,a Robbery by kay1one2(m): 11:52am On May 21, 2015
Islam is just a terrorist organisation one should be weary of!!!

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Re: The Jizya Tax,a Robbery by malvisguy212: 12:16pm On May 21, 2015
Ifeann:


The Muslims have nothing to say because of how clearly you have presented the truth to them. Millions of Muslims are on welfare in western countries and receiving free money, so they troop into those countries while Christians and Jews are paying jizyah in Islamic countries.

I detest Islam. A religion of hypocrisy
Weldon, I pray the true God revealed the truth to this people.
Re: The Jizya Tax,a Robbery by truthman2012(m): 2:12pm On May 21, 2015
tartar9:
you'll Ingrates do you know what the Jizya is,which western country are Muslims favoured to pay lower taxes than non-muslims.

Why was Muhammad collecting tax?

Was he a king?

Was a head of government?

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Re: The Jizya Tax,a Robbery by Nobody: 2:30pm On May 21, 2015
truthman2012:


Why was Muhammad collecting tax?

Was he a king?

Was a head of government?

Naaaa. He was just bandit, a kingpin and not a king.

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Re: The Jizya Tax,a Robbery by tartar9(m): 4:09pm On May 21, 2015
truthman2012:


Why was Muhammad collecting tax?

Was he a king?

Was a head of government?
YES,He(SAW) was a Head of government an elected one for that matter.and non-muslims paid lesser 'tax'.
Re: The Jizya Tax,a Robbery by malvisguy212: 4:40pm On May 21, 2015
tartar9:
YES,He(SAW) was a Head of government.and non-muslims paid lesser tax.
head of government?Islam begin with a political agenda? Turned the world into one world government under Islamic rulership just as the bible prophesied concerning the antichrist,A future global government will need control of all currency in order to fulfill Revelation 13:16-18:
16 Also it causes all, both small and
great, both rich and poor, both free and
slave,5 to be marked on the right hand
or the forehead, 17 so that no one can
buy or sell unless he has the mark, that
is, the name of the beast or the number of its name.

Muhammed is a false prophet and satan used him to lay the foundation of this furture plan which will soon come to pass with the help of Islamic terrorists. Upon All the teaching of Jesus which encourage you to love your neighbours and even your enemies you still preferred a man who don't know anything about love? If you did not love your enemies, how will you preach to those who you hate? Even Stephen a DECONE (not a prophet) his attitude towards sinner is much more pleasant than muhammed, Stephen pray for thoes who stone him to death.

If the foundations be destroyed, what
can the righteous do? Psalm 11:3

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Re: The Jizya Tax,a Robbery by tartar9(m): 4:55pm On May 21, 2015
malvisguy212:

[s]head of government?Islam begin with a political agenda? Turned the world into one world government under Islamic rulership just as the bible prophesied concerning the antichrist,A future global government will need control of all currency in order to fulfill Revelation 13:16-18:
16 Also it causes all, both small and
great, both rich and poor, both free and
slave,5 to be marked on the right hand
or the forehead, 17 so that no one can
buy or sell unless he has the mark, that
is, the name of the beast or the number of its name.

Muhammed is a false prophet and satan used him to lay the foundation of this furture plan which will soon come to pass with the help of Islamic terrorists. Upon All the teaching of Jesus which encourage you to love your neighbours and even your enemies you still preferred a man who don't know anything about love? If you did not love your enemies, how will you preach to those who you hate? Even Stephen a DECONE (not a prophet) his attitude towards sinner is much more pleasant than muhammed, Stephen pray for thoes who stone him to death.

If the foundations be destroyed, what
can the righteous do? Psalm 11:3[/s]
TRASH!
Re: The Jizya Tax,a Robbery by truthman2012(m): 5:35pm On May 21, 2015
tartar9:
YES,He(SAW) was a Head of government an elected one for that matter.and non-muslims paid lesser 'tax'.

Who voted for him?

What was the name of the Electoral Body.

Give evidence.

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Re: The Jizya Tax,a Robbery by malvisguy212: 6:23pm On May 21, 2015
tartar9:
TRASH!
THE HARDEN HEARTED MAN.

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Re: The Jizya Tax,a Robbery by tartar9(m): 7:53pm On May 21, 2015
truthman2012:


Who voted for him?

What was the name of the Electoral Body.

Give evidence.
smh,something even the most ignorant Muslims knows about.then you would later start doing as if you know everything about Islam,you didnt find it from anti-islam sites to copy and paste as usual.go and ask google or search for the constitution of Medina.
Re: The Jizya Tax,a Robbery by tartar9(m): 8:00pm On May 21, 2015
malvisguy212:
THE HARDEN HEARTED MAN.
say whatever you like,in fact this Jizya you are talking about you'll pay it in humiliation and submission to me Insha'Allah bunch of ingrates! angry
Re: The Jizya Tax,a Robbery by truthman2012(m): 8:08pm On May 21, 2015
tartar9:
smh,something even the most ignorant Muslims knows about.then you would later start doing as if you know everything about Islam,you didnt find it from anti-islam sites to copy and paste as usual.go and ask google or search for the constitution of Medina.

Was Medina a country?

Let's see it now:

The Constitution.

The Electoral Body

The Voters.

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Re: The Jizya Tax,a Robbery by tartar9(m): 8:18pm On May 21, 2015
truthman2012:

Was Medina a country?
Let's see it now:
The Constitution.
The Electoral Body
The Voters.
go and search for the constitution of Medina.
Re: The Jizya Tax,a Robbery by truthman2012(m): 8:55pm On May 21, 2015
tartar9:
go and search for the constitution of Medina.

Trash!

Telling lies.
Re: The Jizya Tax,a Robbery by tartar9(m): 8:59pm On May 21, 2015
truthman2012:


Trash!

Telling lies.
go and search for the constitution of Medina
Re: The Jizya Tax,a Robbery by truthman2012(m): 9:05pm On May 21, 2015
tartar9:
go and search for the constitution of Medina

Smh!
Re: The Jizya Tax,a Robbery by tartar9(m): 9:28pm On May 21, 2015
truthman2012:


Smh!
go and search for the constitution of Medina and also prepare your Jizya,if you are still alive then.
Re: The Jizya Tax,a Robbery by truthman2012(m): 9:43pm On May 21, 2015
tartar9:
go and search for the constitution of Medina and also prepare your Jizya,if you are still alive then.

Smh!!!
Re: The Jizya Tax,a Robbery by malvisguy212: 10:41pm On May 21, 2015
tartar9:
say whatever you like,in fact this Jizya you are talking about you'll pay it in humiliation and submission to me Insha'Allah bunch of ingrates! angry
if I pay the money to you, what will be your gain? So Allah commanded you to take money from the unbelievers!!!

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Re: The Jizya Tax,a Robbery by tartar9(m): 11:02pm On May 21, 2015
malvisguy212:
if I pay the money to you, what will be your gain? So Allah commanded you to take money from the unbelievers!!!
I meant in the Islamic state,d _ m m y

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