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| Christians (evangelism) And Their Deceptions by Empiree: 3:26am On Mar 11, 2015 |
[size=20pt]Responding To Christian Missionaries Tactics[/size] Christian Missionaries Sweeping the Islamic World Weapons of Missionary Deception (WMD) The Islamic world is the land that is full of milk and honey, the way "Peter the Monk" described it when he called for the European Crusades, today the Islamic world floods with Oil too, which is the most important one because the western civilization and economy is based on the consumption of this oil, of which 70% is in the Islamic world. Christian missionaries are now using new methods in the Islamic world, because the old methods did not prove as effective as the Christian missionaries thought they were. Some of these new ways are :- 1) They started using Islamic names, for examples one of their radio stations that has a person that is responsible for answering the questions of the listeners is called "Shiekh Abd-Allah", his program is called "Allahu Akbar", other radio stations are called "Sawt Al-haq", "Noor A'la Noor". They can use different names but they use these only to confuse Muslims with their misguided preaching. 2) Building churches that look similar to Mosques : Muslims were turned off from entering churches because they looked different, that also made them feel very uncomfortable with them. They also changed the internal structure of the church to look similar to a Mosque, the people sit on the floor and in lines. They have circles for teaching and that sort of stuff. They started using a new way for reciting the bible that is similar to the Tarteel of Qur'an. They also try to compare Christ in Islam to Christ in "Christianity". 3) Publishing and distributing misguiding books that talk about the similarities between Islam and Christian faith. They, for example, quote the verse that refers to prophet Jesus (PUH) "Peace Upon Him" as a prophet, a word and a spirit. They say that is originally the same trinity! Of course this is a false interpretation, a lie. Allah said he blew in Adam of his own spirit, Allah gave his word to prophets Noah, Abraham, Moses, David and Muhammad (PBUT) "Peace and Blessings of Allah Upon Them" and not only to prophet Jesus. The missionaries base this whole theory on the fact that there are three nouns, i.e just because of the number. One of their other arguments that they say that "In the name of Allah, the most Gracious, the most merciful" means three gods!! not one! that is a worst lie than the one before, they ignore that Allah has 99 names that we know, and many more that Allah promised to tell his prophet at the day of judgment. 4) They started a new way, not to tell Muslims things as they are, for example not to tell them that Christians believe that Jesus is the Son of Allah, since Jesus himself didn't use that expression, so they use other words like "the spirit of Allah" since it is closer to the understanding of a Muslim. They also use titles that are common between the two religions such as "Assalah", "Assawm", which include Christian propaganda but a title that is used to hunt Muslim readers. 5) The use of Islamic expressions such as "Bismilalhi Al-Rahmani AlRaheem", "Jesus Alaihi assalam", "subhanah Allah", "Allah tabarak wa ta'ala" ... calling their churches "Boyoot Allah" (houses of God). They sometimes even claim to accept Islam as a religion from God, but they say that Christianity was not canceled by Islam! 6-It is clear that the missionaries are selling these kind of images for the sole purpose of duping Muslims from non-Arabic speaking background. These Biblical images have also clearly been purposely portrayed with the style of calligraphy to mirror that of the usual Qur'ânic calligraphy familiar to these Muslims who will hence find it difficult to distinguish the two. One only wonders whether such dubious methods are "inspired" from the Holy Spirit, the third member of the Trinity, or from the unholy Devil himself! The translation of this verse is: Come to me all you who labour and are heavily burdened, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn of me, for I am gentle and humble of heart, and you will find rest for your souls; for my yoke is easy and my burden is the light. the Arabic Bible verse of Matthew 5: 44-45 6) Making concessions to win Muslims : for examples making Qudas (Christian ceremony) on Fridays not on Sundays to confuse Muslims. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
| Re: Christians (evangelism) And Their Deceptions by Empiree: 3:26am On Mar 11, 2015 |
7) Accepting the principle of polygamy. A funny thing to mention, In England, there was a conference in 1409 AD for priests and a big discussion took place about polygamy, many of them totally rejected that issue and said that this is one thing they use against Islam, but they faced the problem that if they didn't allow polygamy they will lose their campaigns in Africa, after realizing that, they allowed it. There are catholic priest in Africa with 40 wives or more. 8 ) They say that many Muslims have changed to Christianity and they publish books and cassettes about that. For example the book "Why I become a Christian?" written by "Sultan Muhammad Paul", a weird mix of Christian and Muslim names, they claim in this book that this person was a Muslim from Afghanistan who was the son of a scholar and went to Mecca to do Hajj, asked Allah for one thing which was to give him the true guidance, then the book says they he accepted Christianity, the rest of the book is attacks on Islam that appear to be written by someone who has done a whole lot of research and is very deep into Islamic issues. It is very obvious that this book is false and forged, this is a way that is used quite a lot by Christian missionaries who claim that Muslims (go to Hajj and ask for true guidance and accept their sect .. ). 9) Taking the children from their parents and raising them according to their belief. For example in England they started special Hotels for children where they stay there with no connection with their parents, the workers there speak many languages, funny how most of them are Muslim spoken languages (eg Arabic and Urdu). Another example during the Bosnian war the children who were taken from Bosnia to Italy and France they were raised according to Christians believes, those children they know nothing about their original Islamic religion. Even if these children would discover what happened to them they would still have doubts from what was taught to them. 10) The use of Natural disasters : Such as wars, earthquakes floods, ...etc, The need for food, shelter, medicine, education and clothes are one of the reasons that Muslims may accept Christianity. Muslims had to choose either take "Food + Christianity", or stay a Muslim, but a "Hungry Muslim". It is also sad that the aids that Muslims send were distributed by Christians Agencies these aids were sent by Muslims to their brothers and sisters in Bosnia, Chechnya, Indonesia, Somalia, Sudan, Bangladesh, Afghanistan and Iraq. Muslims' funds and resources are used to spread the Christian religion and to spread hatred of one Muslim towards the other ("The Cross comes with food for you, your Muslim brothers forgot you"  .11) Making conditions easy for new converts from Islam to Christianity: These converts are treated by other Muslims as a traitor and something shameful, and that is the truth. They also saw that new converts feel left and abandoned, they also do not find full satisfaction with Christianity. A book called (The Christians missionary among Muslims). This book was printed in Lagos in Nigeria and was given to all the missionaries in that area, this book explains how the missionary can get the best results of his preaching. It says: "the Christian missionary must offer a great love for new converts, as well as regular Muslims, be nice to them. Learn about Islam not only to destroy Muslims belief, but also to understand the similarities between Islam and Christianity so that YOU START WITH THESE POINTS. Talk to them about Jesus, tell them that he loves them and that he is their Saviour. Do not argue the faith, give them a general idea, a fast answer, even try to make it as a joke especially the Trinity, or the idea that Jesus is the son of God Many Muslims are effected by this missionary activity, and that many Muslims leave Islam and enter into Christianity! add to that the ones who are slightly affected by Christianity they for example leave Islam without entering into Christianity, or accept some of the Christian belief, or help Christians in their activities, or accept that their relatives become Christians then that is a huge number of people! So the missionary activity is doing what it is supposed to do. It is wrong to think that every Muslim has an impunity against these missionaries, the missionary efforts are very huge, they are starting to give results even it is was a partial success.. Ignorance is also another reason, there are many Muslims who do not know much about Islam. The ignorant Muslim is called to Christianity in cunning ways and so he enters into it. The fact that there is no Islamic preaching to stand in the face of Christian missionary with similar preaching is also another factor, there is not such activity to teach those ignorant Muslims about their religion and warning them about the danger of the missionaries is a reason that made Christianity acceptable among Muslims. 4 Likes 3 Shares |
| Re: Christians (evangelism) And Their Deceptions by 9jaforlife: 5:44am On Mar 11, 2015 |
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| Re: Christians (evangelism) And Their Deceptions by 9jaforlife: 5:44am On Mar 11, 2015 |
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| Re: Christians (evangelism) And Their Deceptions by Empiree: 2:21pm On Mar 12, 2015 |
A Guide to Missionary Tactics This guide is intended to improve awareness about the tactics used by some Christian groups and cults. The tactics of Christian missionaries and missionary groups may vary, but there are some basic guidelines to keep in mind that will be helpful in dealing with them. HIDDEN AGENDA Some missionaries attempt to develop a rapport with their subject without divulging their own religious affiliation or intention. Christian missionaries are coached by their superiors to avoid using words such as "Christ" or "savior" or "baptize". If you are not sure about the religious identity of the stranger who begins talking to you about religion, ask him directly about his beliefs and agenda. Be suspicious of an indirect answer. Remember these people aren't interested in dialogue or trying to improve Anglo-Muslim links but are often in SECURE PAID EMPLOYMENT to Sell Christianity CREATING DOUBT When the Christian missionary talks to a Muslim about religion, they may attempt to elicit as many "I don't know" responses as possible, in order to establish their superiority in matters of religion. Don't allow yourself to be intimidated! Remember, the missionary has studied Islamic beliefs for the sole purpose to "sell Christianity to Muslims". Their hearts are sealed and they are no longer interested in truth. Keep in mind that he is not speaking to you in order to exchange ideas, but rather to create as much doubt in your mind and lead you away from your faith. If you want to learn more about the Qur'an, do so from someone who doesn't have hidden motives. Therefore, feel free to simply end the conversation and walk away. Remember that many of these questions and associations they are trying to sell have been debunked many times by more learned Muslims. If they were interested in dialogue the would are trying to sell have been debunked many times by more learned Muslims. If they were interested in dialogue the would be speaking to respected elders and community leaders exploring common ground improving understanding and faith in the community, but all one sees are the often the same question again to unsuspecting victims. Ask yourself what do they hope to gain ? However, some of you may want to listen to their arguments and then learn the Muslim response, in order to be better prepared for future encounters. One must also remember that many missionaries intentionally go into Muslim countries and Muslims areas, so they train themselves and create the most seductive "Sales Pitch" they can manage. Once they have finished there training in salesmanship they will target unsuspecting Muslims (the lonely, vulnerable and weak) lacking in knowledge. The following pointers should give you a basic idea of what to look for. 3 Likes 2 Shares |
| Re: Christians (evangelism) And Their Deceptions by Empiree: 2:35pm On Mar 12, 2015 |
DECEPTION The missionary may tell you that he (or a Christian friend or acquaintance) was once a Muslim, or that he had a solid Muslim education, a traditional Muslim family life, etc. This is almost always a lie, so don't let him fool you. The hidden message that he is attempting to convey is that he came to accept Christianity after knowing and overcoming all of the Muslim objections (Jesus being son of god, Bible being corrupted by man etc.), and therefore, why should you bother to check it out? He may drop certain Islamic phrases or talk about the details of his "traditional" Muslim upbringing, in order to lend more credence to his story. In fact, his "memory" is often the result of careful coaching. The missionary might tell you that he knows the Islamic objections to his arguments,and will then proceed to show how such objectives are ill-founded. Don't expect to hear the real Islamic response from such a source. GOOD, BAD OR UGLY Don't be taken in by the "good cop - bad cop" routine. This routine involves a "bad cop" who threatens the subject, and a "good cop" who protects him from the "bad cop". The subject is so grateful to the "good cop", and so worried about losing the good-will of his protector, that he invariably shows his appreciation by telling the "good cop" what he wants to hear. In similar fashion, the "good" Christian talks about how much he loves and respects Muslims, while denouncing the "bad" Christians who hate and have persecuted Muslims. The naive and ones lacking in knowledge of Christian history and bigotry will feel grateful to the "good cop", and may automatically judge him to be a friend and reliable ally. Watch out for hidden motives behind such "friendship". WHO BELIEVES IN THE SON OF GOD? At the outset, the missionary will talk about his belief that Jesus is the messiah. Many Muslims don't find out until later, often after they have joined a Christian friendship group, that their fundamental belief is that Jesus is god. Any talk about "the messiah" or "son of god" is merely a cover for that belief, basic to Christianity . However, since such a concept is repugnant in Islam, this most basic belief of Christianity is glossed over as much as possible when missionaries talk to Muslims. PROOF or SPOOF? Don't be impressed by the claim that Christians have 50, or 100, or 300 "proofs" that they are correct in their claims about Jesus. As proof after proof is shown to be meaningless, the missionary will hide behind his numbers, as if to say: "Well, we have so many more proofs, what's the difference if you can disprove some of them". He will attempt to "split the difference" with you: "Well, even if half our proofs prove nothing, we still have another 25 or 50, or 150". Remember, all of their proofs can be shown to be untenable. Keep in mind that a faulty point is not worth 50% of a good point, or 25%, or 10%. It is worthless. The simple mathematics are: 50 x 0 = 0, 100 x 0 = 0. CIRCULAR REASONING Very often, the reasoning used by Christian missionaries is circular. That is, the "proof" only points to something is if you believe it in the first place, and therefore is no proof at all. MISTRANSLATION Be aware of the problem of mistranslating. A person who is not familiar with Arabic can be lead to accept a mistranslated which puts a Christian "twist" on a verse that never had such a meaning in the original. If you can't check it out yourself, talk ٩to a reliable person who can. Remember, it is no coincidence that the Muslims of past generations, who were much better versed in the Arabic, never had any serious problems refuting Christian missionary arguments. In addition beware of Christian Translations of the Qur'an, many date from sixteenth to the eighteenth century with the sole intention of to discredit Islam. Please keep in mind ANY translation (interpretation) of the Qur'an will most definitely contain errors In its natural language (Arabic), the Qur'an is the direct Word of Allah (God) to mankind through the prophet Mohammed (peace be upon him). Any translation of the Qur'an no longer retains that 'official' and perfect status, however it can be tremendously helpful to beginning students wanting to learn more about Islam. We would strongly encourage those want to learn about Islam to purchase a copy of the Qur'an but with the following conditions: get one with commentary (tafseer) & make sure the tafseer is scholarly (e.g. references to reasons behind a verse, references to hadith and sunnah, etc..). An excellent English translation of the meanings and commentary of the Noble Qur'an is that of Dr. Muhammad Taqi-ud-Din Al-Hilali and Dr. Muhammad Muhsin Khan recently published work by " King Fahd Complex for the printing of the Holy Qur'an – Madinah, Kingdom of Saudia Arabia ". 2 Likes |
| Re: Christians (evangelism) And Their Deceptions by Empiree: 2:46pm On Mar 12, 2015 |
QUOTING OUT OF CONTEXT Often a verse will be quoted to you that has been taken entirely out of context. When the entire chapter that contains that verse is read, it becomes clear that it does not corroborate the Missionary. Conclusion : Selling Timeshare or Christshare? You may recognize many of the tactics used by some Missionaries in selling there faith as they have similarities to disreputable Timeshare and Double glazing salesman, and this raises some interesting points: Why would one propagate faith in such a deceitful and underhanded way, is it because: God will not aid ones seeking the true path? A bad product is difficult to sell unless you dupe someone? If you are genuinely interested in faith why don't you go ask someone with a ١٠sound knowledge and understanding of Islam, instead of targeting the naive, vulnerable and the weak. Why do you seek out the naive and weak and then intentionally ask mischievous questions, when they have been answered many times by learned scholars and by people that you have approached over the years? Surely this does not add to knowledge or understanding. Why do you target Muslims Considering the moral depravity often in your own family and neighbor hood and within so called Christians. Is it because Muslims are wealthy in faith? Is it because you have so much hatred for Muslims and you are unable, incapable or tired of other methods. RIDICULE There is a very large number of publications by Muslims explaining Islam in plain and simple English. Look in any public library for books on Islam, a large proportion of them will be by orientalists and Christian missionaries, what do you think motivates someone to write a book on a subject one does not believe in and an area that has been already covered by numerous other books? Remember Christian "Translations" of the Qur'an whose sole intention was to discredit Islam. CRUSADES Butchered everyone including defenseless women and children or any one else that got in there way. Although it has taken many hundreds of years Crusaders have improved they now only kill some women and RAPE THE REST. The twentieth century has seen "Ethnic Cleansing" replace the word Crusade, in 1996 one of the youngest recorded victim of rape in Bosnia was a baby of 4 Months old. Many women and children had two of there fingers severed by the Serbs so that the three remaining fingers would remind them of the Trinity. A WAY FORWARD While we as Muslims believe that the entire Qur'an is the word of God and we would like every one to accept it as such, God Himself has given the freedom of religion which we respect. With that in mind, all we hope is that non-Muslims will at least enlighten themselves with an open heart and mind by knowing what Islam is. We hope that Muslims, Christians and Jews will find ways to work together to bring peace on earth by eradicating immorality, fear, hate, disease, poverty and injustice. Muslims welcome the chance improve dialogue and understanding with all faiths. In addition we do not object to other groups explaining there ideas and faith to whomever expresses an interest, but we do think it is unacceptable that missionaries demean other faiths, use deceitful methods and harass communities with what can be described highly trained and focused door to door salesman. USE THE PROPER RESOURCES! Most Muslims spend their time studying Islam trying to find a path to true enlightenment, and therefore may not be familiar with the "curve-ball" approach of missionaries. If you need advice concerning a problem of this sort, get in touch with Muslims scholars and people who are familiar with the missionaries tactics' being used and who know how to deal with them. Next: Missionary Traps for Muslims 5 Likes 2 Shares |
| Re: Christians (evangelism) And Their Deceptions by Empiree: 2:55pm On Mar 12, 2015 |
kestolove95:What they gain?. This is a million dollar question. God already told muslims that people of the book will not be pleased with muslims. "And never will the Jews or the Christians approve of you until you follow their religion. Say, "Indeed, the guidance of Allah is the [only] guidance." If you were to follow their desires after what has come to you of knowledge, you would have against Allah no protector or helper." 2:120 I have been hearing crazy maltreatment of non-Muslims who revert(convert) to Islam. In this video, you will get a bit of the stories of how those people are treated, yet media say Muslims force people to convert or kill those to apostate from Islam. They are liars. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfC-CKmTRT0 4 Likes 2 Shares |
| Re: Christians (evangelism) And Their Deceptions by Empiree: 4:18pm On Mar 12, 2015 |
[size=15pt]It's Time For Islamophobic Evangelicals To Choose[/size] What A Christian Says Editor's Note: Brian D. McLaren is author of "Why Did Jesus, Moses, the Buddha, and Mohammed Cross the Road? Christian Identity in a Multi-Faith World" (Jericho Books/Hachette Book Group). 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: Christians (evangelism) And Their Deceptions by feedthenation(m): 5:08pm On Mar 12, 2015 |
Empiree: Empiree: why are the Jews and the Christians the only group of people named in the Quran...what about Hindus, Sikhs Buddhists, Zoroastrians, Rastafarians and many other religions not mentioned in the Quran? |
| Re: Christians (evangelism) And Their Deceptions by malvisguy212: 6:50pm On Mar 12, 2015 |
Empiree:Allah is not steady in his word, it is the same people of the book he ask muslims to confirmed the scripture, here he is condemning the same people belief. 1 Like |
| Re: Christians (evangelism) And Their Deceptions by malvisguy212: 6:53pm On Mar 12, 2015 |
feedthenation:satan feel threatened by christians and Jews, God empowered the name of Jesus, what satan did was to condemned the muslims for mentioning the name Jesus, and they (muslims) obeyed satan . 1 Like |
| Re: Christians (evangelism) And Their Deceptions by Empiree: 7:41pm On Mar 12, 2015 |
feedthenation:That will be your homework. lol  |
| Re: Christians (evangelism) And Their Deceptions by true2god: 10:31pm On Mar 12, 2015 |
feedthenation:This is because mohammed considered the Jews and the christians as a threat when he come with his new cult. The copied the bible, changed part of the story and teachings, included fews ones and called it new revelation, hence the jews and the christians called him a mad man for doing that. So mohammed decclared the christains and the jews as enemies (quran 5:51) and called them (jews and christians) the decsendants of apes and pigs. Can you see why the Jews at that time called mohammed a lunatic? 3 Likes |
| Re: Christians (evangelism) And Their Deceptions by Empiree: 12:55am On Mar 13, 2015 |
feedthenation:Okay, I decided I would let you do some research. But since some bigots chose respond naively, I'd respond appropriately. You dont need these two fellas to tell you what Islam is. Now to answer your simple question, you asked why only Jews and Christians mentioned in the Quran?. The reason is Qur'an recognized Jews and Christian as the people who received scriptures prior to the advent of prophet Muhammad(peace be upon him). Jews, Christian and Muslims are dubbed "Abramaic faith" which means we share similar root. We all call Abraham(peace be upon him) "father of faith". Although we muslims do not believe Abraham (upon him be peace) practiced Christianity nor Judaism. Quran tells us that he practiced Islam (total submission to God's will). Quran teaches that Abraham was neither Jew nor christian. (3:67)"Abraham was neither a Jew nor a Christian, but he was one inclining toward truth, a Muslim [submitting to Allah]. And he was not of the polytheists." As for other religions you mentioned up there, Quran does mentioned them but it summed them up as Polytheists, Pagans, Idolaters. What makes these religions different from Judaism and Christianity is simply because they are purely outside of Abramaic religion. I can elaborate on this if you want but this thread is definitely not for the discussion. I don't want to derail it. But I had to answer you out of respect. Thanks for questioning. Should you have more questions i think you should follow us on this thread https://www.nairaland.com/2172133/question-did-jesus-read-bible. It's appropriate to ask your questions right there. 4 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Christians (evangelism) And Their Deceptions by Empiree: 5:28am On Mar 13, 2015 |
[size=20pt]Missionary Traps For Muslims[/size] Part 1: Faith and Works One of the basic arguments raised by non-Muslims, especially Christians, against Islam concerns the concept of salvation. They say that in Christianity, one is saved by faith, whereas in Islam one must earn their salvation through good deeds. Unfortunately, many Muslims fall into the trap of defending the position imposed on them by these non-Muslims. This then provides the Christians with a basis for their entire Jesus-FatherCrucifixion-Salvation framework. They then go on to argue that salvation is a gift from God that cannot be earned. But if the true Islamic concept is made clear, the Christian has no basis to attack Islam. Many times, Muslims fail to realize that the Islamic concept of salvation is not based upon good deeds, but is based primarily upon faith. In the dozens of times Allah Almighty talks in the Qur'an about salvation, he always states, "Those who believe and do good deeds." Belief is always mentioned before deeds or works. When one converts to Islam, one does not do it by doing some good work but rather through realizing and believing that there is but one God and Muhammad PBUH is his last messenger. Non-Muslims may perform good works as well, but what sets them apart from Muslims is their lack of faith (iman), or belief. The reason that the good works of the non-believers are worthless in the hereafter is because of their disbelief. Unless a person's iman or aqeedah is not correct, all his good deeds are worthless. One of the more popular hadiths of the Prophet (peace be upon him) states, "All actions are based upon intentions," implying that the purpose, intent, or iman behind your action is what you get rewarded for; the actual action is really a consequence of the belief. Another hadith (saying from Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him) states "A man came to the Prophet (peace be upon him) and asked, 'When will the day of judgment come?' The Prophet (peace be upon him) replied, 'What have you prepared for the judgment day that you are so concerned for it?' He replied, 'I do not have any good deeds in my account, but I do have one thing: I love Allah and His Messenger (peace be upon him).' The Prophet (peace be upon him) then said, 'In that case, do not worry; you will be with those whom you love.'" (Agreed Upon). This saying from Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him also confirms the Islamic position of placing aqeedah (faith) and belief before actions. For example, Allah Almighty says in various parts of the Qur'an, "The believers you will find praying..." He does not say the people who are praying are believers. It is the belief that brings about the action, but the converse is not always true. Another hadith (saying) of the Prophet (peace be upon him) states, "Unless one loves Allah and Allah's Messenger more than one's own self his iman is not complete." 1 Like |
| Re: Christians (evangelism) And Their Deceptions by Empiree: 5:39am On Mar 13, 2015 |
Part 2: The Bible Another misunderstanding Muslims often fall into concerns the Bible. Christian missionaries in almost every discussion of the Qur'an assert that the Qur'an asks Muslims to believe in the Bible as a revelation of God. Many Muslims tend to fall into this trap by saying that "we believe in the Bible as revealed book." Once the Muslim accepts this fact, the evangelist can point out that the Bible contradicts the Qur'an and that since the Bible has precedence over the Qur'an and since Muslims are required to believe in it, it therefore logically follows that the Bible is right and the Quran is wrong. But the Qur'an says no such thing. There is no reference to the Bible in the Qur'an whatsoever. The Qur'an mentions the Taurat (Old Testament) and the Injil (New Testament). The Taurat is the book given to prophet Moses. This is the equivalent of the Torah/Pentateuch of the Jews and Christians, since much of it was not written by prophet Moses. And the Taurat is definitely not the Old Testament since the OT includes dozens of books attributed to other prophets before Jesus. The Injil is translated as the Gospel revealed to prophet Jesus. This is not the New Testament. The New Testament is a collection of 4 biographies of Christ, 27 epistles of St. Paul, and other books on the lives and adventures on the followers of Christ. There is no record of a book revealed to Jesus. Perhaps the closest to it are the words of Jesus himself, which constitutes less than 10% of the NT. Therefore to say that Christians changed the Bible is an inaccurate statement, and can cause trouble in a discussion, because the Christian can then ask questions such as: Who changed the Bible? When exactly was it changed? How do you know it was changed if you don't have a copy of the original? The Bible, or at least the New Testament, cannot be an altered copy of the Injil because it is a completely different book. In fact, the original Bible or New Testament (the very first one) did not correspond to the Injil, Taurat, or Zabur in the first place. It doesn't matter how unreliably it was transmitted; the Bible does not correspond to the Qur'anic Injil. It is not that the Christians have changed the original, but rather they have the wrong book, altogether. The words of Christ are possibly the closest thing to the Injil, but if some of them don't agree with the Noble Quran, then we don't take them. The recently discovered Gospel of Thomas, which is nothing but a list of sayings of Jesus, is even closer to the Islamic concept of Injil. Therefore, it should be kept in mind in discussion with Christians that the Bible has not been changed, but rather the original documents chosen as the word of God were incorrect. Next: A Christian.Missionary's."Thinking.Questions" 2 Likes 2 Shares |
| Re: Christians (evangelism) And Their Deceptions by Nobody: 9:29am On Mar 13, 2015 |
I declare dis post an al-haramic post! 1 Like |
| Re: Christians (evangelism) And Their Deceptions by Nobody: 9:42am On Mar 13, 2015 |
Jazakum Allah khayran. The post sums up their tactics more or less. Jazakum Allah khayran. Their problem is that they fight Islam in futility. And they can only succeed in misleading the ignorant muslim; whereas we gain the most knowledgeable of them. 2 Likes |
| Re: Christians (evangelism) And Their Deceptions by Nobody: 10:01am On Mar 13, 2015 |
OREMUSSANCTUS: Oremussanctus. Are you a muslim yet? No matter; some people just need more time... and a more open heart. We are not all born with equal wisdom. 3 Likes |
| Re: Christians (evangelism) And Their Deceptions by Ifeann(f): 12:13pm On Mar 13, 2015 |
Muslims and their al taqiyyah. . ur ur posts are laughable...let me remind u why islam is evil.. “And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God.”-Revelation 20:4 https://www.nairaland.com/2142658/graphic-pictures-christians-slaughtered-islamic People often wonder why a lot of Muslim riots and protests occur after Friday prayers and why people like jihad john, Osama and other terrorists are devout mosque attending Muslims. Most moderate Muslims will use AL TAQIYYA or ignorance and quote this non-compulsion of religion verse: Qu'ran2: 256 Sahih International "There shall be no compulsion in [acceptance of] the religion. The right course has become clear from the wrong. So whoever disbelieves in Taghut and believes in Allah has grasped the most trustworthy handhold with no break in it. And Allah is Hearing and Knowing." But they refuse to mention the other verses which compels their terrible religion on others. Remember the quran is a book that is filled with contractions and abrogations and even commands for Muslims to lie and deceive infidels eg Kitman and al Taqiyya.. Here is a little sample of the over 100 quran verses Islamic terrorists use to justify their acts of terror as commanded by Mohammed with total disregard for the non-complusion of religion earlier stated ; Qur’an 9:29—Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the Religion of Truth, from among the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. Qur’an 9:28—O ye who believe! Truly the Pagans are unclean; so let them not, after this year of theirs, approach the Sacred Mosque. And if ye fear poverty, soon will Allah enrich you, if He wills, out of His bounty, for Allah is All-Knowing, All-Wise. Qur’an 9:30—The Jews call Uzair a son of God, and the Christians call Christ the son of God. That is a saying from their mouth; (In this) they but imitate what the Unbelievers of old used to say. Allah’s curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth! Qur’an 9:31—They take their priests and their anchorites to be their lords in derogation of Allah, and (they take as their Lord) Christ, the son of Mary; yet they were commanded to worship but One God: there is no god but He. Praise and glory to Him: (Far is He) from having the partners they associate (with Him). Qur’an 9:32—Fain would they extinguish Allah’s Light with their mouths, but Allah will not allow but that His Light should be perfected, even though the Unbelievers may detest (it). Qur’an 9:33—It is He Who hath sent His Messenger with Guidance and the Religion of Truth, to prevail it over all religion, even though the Pagans may detest (it). Qur’an 5:51—O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other. Qur’an 9:73—O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them. Qur’an 9:111—Surely Allah has bought of the believers their persons and their property for this, that they shall have the garden; they fight in Allah's way, so they slay and are slain. Qur’an 9:123—O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness. Qur’an 47:35—Be not weary and fainthearted, crying for peace, when ye should be uppermost. Qur’an 48:29—Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and those who are with him are severe against disbelievers, and merciful among themselves. "The blood of a Muslim who confesses that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that I am His Apostle, cannot be shed except in three cases: In Qisas for murder, a married person who commits illegal sexual intercourse and the one who reverts from Islam (apostate) and leaves the Muslims." (Bukhari, Book 83 Number 17) Sahih Muslim 30—Muhammad said: “I have been commanded to fight against people so long as they do not declare that there is no god but Allah.” Sahih Muslim 4366—Muhammad said: “I will expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not leave any but Muslims.” Sunan An-Nasa’i 3099—The Prophet said: “Whoever dies without having fought or having thought of fighting, he dies on one of the branches of hypocrisy.” Sunan Ibn Majah 2763—The Messenger of Allah said: “Whoever meets Allah with no mark on him (as a result of fighting) in His cause, he will meet Him with a deficiency.” Sahih al-Bukhari 6922—Allah’s Messenger said, “If anyone changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.” Qur'an (4:74)-"Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso FIGHTETH IN THE WAY OF Allah, BE HE SLAIN or be he victorious, on him WE SHALL BESTOW A VAST REWARD" Qur'an (9:111)-"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, AND SLAY AND ARE SLAIN: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Qur'an: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme." Qur'an (2:207)-"And there is the type of man who GIVES HIS LIFE to earn the pleasure of Allah..." Qur'an (61:10-12)"O ye who believe! Shall I lead you to a bargain that will save you from a grievous Penalty? That ye believe in Allah and His Messenger, and that ye strive (your utmost) in the Cause of Allah, with your property and your persons: That will be best for you, if ye but knew! He will forgive you your sins, and admit you to Gardens beneath which Rivers flow, and to beautiful mansions in Gardens of Eternity: that is indeed the Supreme Achievement." This verse was given at the battle Uhud and uses the Arabic word, Jihad. The dark-eyed virgins are mentioned in several places as well, including verses 44:54 and 52:20. For those who swing the other way, there are"perpetual youth"verse6:17, otherwise known as"boys"verses52:24and76:19. Qur'an (17:33)"And do not kill the soul which Allah has forbidden, EXCEPT BY RIGHT" Qur'an 3:151 Soon shall we cast TERROR into the hearts of the unbelievers, for that they joined companion with Allah... Bukhari (52:54)- The words of Muhammad:"I would love to be martyred in Allah's Cause and then get resurrected and then get martyred, and then get resurrected again and then get martyred and then get resurrected again and then get martyred." This is why modern-day Jihadists often say that they love death. Qur'an (5:51)-"O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people." Qur'an (5:80)-"You will see many of them befriending those who disbelieve; certainly evil is that which their souls have sent before for them, that Allah became displeased with them and in chastisement shall they abide." Those Muslims who befriend unbelievers will abide in hell. Qur'an (3:28)-"Let not the believers Take for friends or helpers Unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah:except by way of precaution, that ye may Guard yourselves from them..." This last part means that the Muslim is allowed to feign friendship if it is of benefit. Renowned scholar Ibn Kathir states that"believers are allowed to show friendship outwardly, but never inwardly." Qur'an (3:118)-"O you who believe! do not take for intimate friends from among others than your own people, they do not fall short of inflicting loss upon you; they love what distresses you; vehement hatred has already appeared from out of their mouths, and what their bosoms conceal is greater still; indeed, We have made the communications clear to you, if you will understand." This verse not only warns Muslims not to take non-Muslims as friends. Qur'an (9:23)-"O ye who believe! Choose not your fathers nor your brethren for friends if they take pleasure in disbelief rather than faith. Whoso of you taketh them for friends, such are wrong-doers" Even family members are not to be taken as friends if they do not accept Islam. (This is the mildest interpretation of this verse from the 9th Sura, which also advocates"slaying the unbeliever wherever ye find them" . Qur'an (53:29)-"Therefore shun those who turn away from Our Message and desire nothing but the life of this world." Qur'an (3:85)-"And whoever desires a religion other than Islam, it shall not be accepted from him, and in the hereafter he shall be one of the losers." Qur'an (3:10)-"(As for) those who disbelieve, surely neither their wealth nor their children shall avail them in the least against Allah, and these it is who are the fuel of the fire." Those who do not believe in Muhammad are but fuel for the fire of Hell (also 66:6, 2:24. 21:98). Qur'an (7:44)-"The Companions of the Garden will call out to the Companions of the Fire:"We have indeed found the promises of our Lord to us true: Have you also found Your Lord's promises true?"They shall say,"Yes"; but a crier shall proclaim between them:"The curse of Allah is on the wrong-doers" Muslims in heaven will amuse themselves by looking down on non-Muslims in Hell and mocking them while they are being tortured (see22:19-22. Qur'an (1:5-7)-"Show us the straight path, The path of those whom Thou hast favoured; Not the (path) of those who earn Thine anger nor of those who go astray" This is a prayer that Muslims are supposed to repeat each day. "Those who earn Thine anger"specifically refers to Jews and"those who go astray"refers to Christians (seeBukhari (12:749). Remember the ultimate aim of Mohammed and devout Muslims is for Islam to dominate the world. They aim to murder all the pagans and atheists hence condemning their souls to hell, of courses they spare the Christians because a murdered christain in defense of his/her faith becomes heaven bound hence the devout Muslims are commanded to humiliate Christians and have them pay the jizyah or convert or die. Once a muslim renounces Islam they are commanded to behead the apostate. this is the religion of "peace". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmGRshS0PAw 3 Likes |
| Re: Christians (evangelism) And Their Deceptions by Empiree: 12:42pm On Mar 13, 2015 |
[size=15pt]A Christian Missionary's "Thinking Questions"[/size] Article based on Gary Miller's Speech on Islam and Christianity http://www.themodernreligion.com/comparative/christ/christiniaty_mission_questions.htm Missionary: Does the Qur'an say that Jesus was sinless? Muslim: Yes. Jesus was perfect man. Never sinned. Missionary: Does the Qur'an tell Muhammad to repent? Muslim: Yes. Qur'an tells the prophet Muhammad (PBUH) to repent. That's all. The missionary doesn't say anything else. He hopes now that the Muslim would start thinking: "Now, wait a minute, Jesus never sinned, but Muhammad was supposed to repent. Maybe Jesus is better!" Missionary wants the Muslim to start thinking that a sinless man is better than a "repentant sinner". Missionary is hoping, but he dare not say it. Because if the Missionary says that, he goes exactly against the teachings of Jesus. If the Missionary is foolish enough to say that a sinless man is better than a repentant sinner, he's going against the teachings of Jesus. The reason why the Missionary is going against the teachings of Jesus is this: Story of a lost sheep. Mathew Chapter 18, verse 12: Jesus said, "If a man has a 100 sheep and one of them has gone astray, does he not leave the 99 on the hills, and go on the search of the one that went astray. And if he finds it, truely I say to you, he rejoices over it more than over the 99 that never went astray." Jesus was trying to hammer that point home to his disciples: Don't you dare say, for example, because you've been a faithful follower for many years that you're better than this one who just became a believer just yesterday. The perfect man has no precedence over the repentant sinner. Moments later.... Missionary:.Was Jesus the Messiah.? Muslim: Yes. Missionary:.Was.Muhammad.the.Messiah? Muslim: No. Now, the Missionary stops there, and hopes that the Muslim would start thinking, "Now, wait a minute, Jesus is the Messiah, and Muhammad is not the Messiah. Maybe Jesus is better!" What the Muslim should ask the Missionary about this word Messiah: Jesus was the Messiah, but were there any other Messiahs besides Jesus? Now you find out how well he knows his Bible. Because there were many Messiahs: David, Solomon, and even Cyrus, the Persian were called Messiahs in the Bible. It's hard to find it in the Bible because the translators cover it over. Messiah means "anointed". A Messiah is someone who has been picked to do a job. Every king of ancient Israel was called Messiah. Now the word doesn't sound so special anymore. It is a title, but it doesn't particularly elevate one todivine status. Moments.later.... Missionary: Where's.the.body.of.Jesus.? Muslim: God took it. Missionary: Where's the body of Muhammad? Muslim: Its in Madinah. It's burried in the ground. Now the Missionary hopes that the Muslim would go away thinking,"Now that's interesting! The body of Jesus is gone; Muhammad is in the grave. Maybe Jesus is the true Messenger, Muhammad is false!" The Missionary is hoping the thought would cross the Muslim's mind, but he dare not say it. What the Muslim should ask the Missionary is this: "Do you mean that a dead and buried Prophet is a false prophet? Is that what you mean?" If that is so, what does Missionary say about Abraham, for example? Abraham is buried. Jews and Muslims to this day, still go to the place where Abraham is buried, to visit his grave. Is Abraham a false prophet because he's dead and buried in the ground? The Bible also states body of Moses was taken up by God. God sent an angel to take the body away. Does this mean Jesus and Moses are equal in their "divine status"? What has the Missionary's question prove? Next: The most common questions asked by Christian missionaries against Islam 4 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Christians (evangelism) And Their Deceptions by kristen12(f): 1:09pm On Mar 13, 2015 |
Mr op, why didn't you create your thread in islam section? Where Ɣ☺ΰ 'll be under the shadow of your islam mod. I'm smh for you cos "they" will soon attack you. |
| Re: Christians (evangelism) And Their Deceptions by feedthenation(m): 1:10pm On Mar 13, 2015 |
Empiree: Empiree, why should this be my homework, you took valuable time to lecture us with the information you posted, I think you should be able to answer the question in a simple way for us to learn. I don't want a situation where myself or anyone else would misinterpret you. As I don't understand Arabic, could you be kind enough to recommend authentic translation books, which helps to translate the Quran to English without any ambiguity? |
| Re: Christians (evangelism) And Their Deceptions by Empiree: 1:18pm On Mar 13, 2015 |
feedthenation:I thank you for your understanding. I have actually answered you. Just scroll further down. I answered because i notice some fellas tried to falsely answer you. By translated books, do you mean at least Quran?. If so, there are translated versions in English. Please visit Quran.com or searchtruth.com Thanks. I am sorry I asked you to do homework. I said that earlier to test your sincerity because I didnt want to waste my time arguing endlessly. 3 Likes |
| Re: Christians (evangelism) And Their Deceptions by Empiree: 1:23pm On Mar 13, 2015 |
kristen12:If they "attack" only proves me right. I don't worry about it. I just want folks to see how missionaries and evangelists propaganda works. 2 Likes |
| Re: Christians (evangelism) And Their Deceptions by Empiree: 1:43pm On Mar 13, 2015 |
The most common questions asked by Christian missionaries against Islam By Dr. Zakir Naik http://www.irf.net/irf/faqonislam/index.htm Question :Is it not true that Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) has copied the Qur’an from the Bible? Answer: Many critics allege that Prophet Muhummad (pbuh) himself was not the author of the Qur’an but he learnt it and/or plagiarized (copied or adapted) it from other human sources or from previous scriptures or revelations. 1.THE FIRST ALLEGATION THAT THE PROPHET MUHUMMAD (PBUH) LEARNT THE QUR’AN FROM A ROMAN BLACKSMITH WHO WAS A CHRISTIAN Some Pagans accused the Prophet of learning the Qur’an from a Roman Blacksmith, who was a Christian staying at the outskirts of Makkah. The Prophet very often used to go and watch him do his work. A revelation of the Qur’an was sufficient to dismiss this charge - the Qur’an says in Surah An-Nahl chapter 16 verse 103: "We know indeed that they say, ‘It is a man that teaches him,’ The tongue of him they wickedly point to is notably foreign, while this is Arabic, pure and clear." [Al-Qur’an 16:103] How could a person whose mother tongue was foreign and could hardly speak little but of poor broken Arabic be the source of the Qur’an which is pure, eloquent, fine Arabic? To believe that the blacksmith taught the Prophet the Qur’an is some what similar to believing that a Chinese immigrant to England, who did not know proper English, taught Shakespeare. 2.THE SECOND ALLEGATION THAT THE PROPHET MUHUMMAD (PBUH) LEARNT FROM WARAQA - THERELATIVE OF KHADIJAH (RA) Muhummad’s (pbuh) contacts with the Jewish and Christian Scholars were very limited. The most prominent Christian known to him was an old blind man called Waraqa ibn-Naufal who was a relative of the Prophet’s first wife Khadijah (r.a.). Although of Arab descent, he was a convert to Christianity and was very well versed with the New Testament. The Prophet only met him twice, first when Waraqa was worshipping at the Kaaba (before the Prophetic Mission) and he kissed the Prophet’s forehead affectionately; the second occasion was when the Prophet went to meet Waraqa after receiving the first revelation. Waraqa died three years later and the revelation continued for about 23 years. It is ridiculous to assume that Waraqa was the source of the contents of the Qur’an. 3.THE THIRD ALLEGATION ABOUT THE PROPHET’S RELIGIOUS DISCUSSIONS WITH THE JEWS AND CHRISTIANS It is true that the Prophet did have religious discussions with the Jews and Christians but they took place in Madinah more than 13 years after the revelation of the Qur’an had started. The allegation that these Jews and Christians were the source is perverse, since in these discussions Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was performing the roles of a teacher and of a preacher while inviting them to embrace Islam and pointing out that they had deviated from their true teachings of Monotheism. Several of these Jews and Christians later embraced Islam. 4.THE FOURTH ALLEGATION THAT THE PROPHET LEARNT THE QUR’AN FROM THOSE JEWS AND CHRISTIANS THAT HE MET OUTSIDE ARABIA All historical records available show that the prophet Muhummad (pbuh) had made only three trips outside Makkah before his Prophethood: At the age of 9 he accompanied his mother to Madinah. Between the age of 9 and 12, he accompanied his uncle Abu-Talib on a business trip to Syria. At the age of 25 he (pbuh) led Khadija’s (r.a) Caravan to Syria. It is highly imaginary to assume that the Qur’an resulted from the occasional chats and meetings with the Christians or Jews from any of the above three trips. 5.LOGICAL GROUNDS TO PROVE THAT THE PROPHET (PBUH) DID NOT LEARN THE QUR’AN FROM JEWS OR CHRISTIANS The day-to-day life of the Prophet (pbuh) was an open book for all to see. In fact a revelation came asking people to give the Prophet (pbuh) privacy in his own home. If the Prophet had been meeting people who told him what to say as a revelation from God, this would not have been hidden for very long. The extremely prominent Quraish nobles who followed the Prophet (pbuh) and accepted Islam were wise and intelligent men who would have easily noticed anything suspicious about the way in which the Prophet brought the revelations to them - more so since the Prophetic mission lasted 23 years. The enemies of the Prophet (pbuh) kept a close watch on him in order to find proof for their claim that he was a liar - they could not point out even a single instance when the Prophet may have had a secret rendezvous with particular Jews and Christians. It is inconceivable that any human author of the Qur’an would have accepted a situation in which he received no credit whatsoever for originating the Qur’an. Thus, historically and logically it cannot be established that there was a human source for the Qur’an. 4 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Christians (evangelism) And Their Deceptions by Unbias: 6:16pm On Mar 13, 2015 |
Empiree: The only reason why you believe Abraham was neither a Jew nor a Christian is because your quran say so. The quran is inundated with false claims about many Jewish prophets and doctrines. Muhammad falsely accused both Jews and Christians of polytheism and did everything possible to condemn Jewish monotheism in order to be accepted. Muhammad brought Islam and yet claimed that Jewish prophets who lived over a thousand year before him only practised Islam. 2 Likes |
| Re: Christians (evangelism) And Their Deceptions by malvisguy212: 6:31pm On Mar 13, 2015 |
Empiree:when waraqa(a jew) died what makes the revelation pause? |
| Re: Christians (evangelism) And Their Deceptions by Empiree: 7:11pm On Mar 13, 2015 |
5.LOGICAL GROUNDS TO PROVE THAT THE PROPHET (PBUH) DID NOT LEARN THE QUR’AN FROM JEWS OR CHRISTIANS The day-to-day life of the Prophet (pbuh) was an open book for all to see. In fact a revelation came asking people to give the Prophet (pbuh) privacy in his own home. If the Prophet had been meeting people who told him what to say as a revelation from God, this would not have been hidden for very long. The extremely prominent Quraish nobles who followed the Prophet (pbuh) and accepted Islam were wise and intelligent men who would have easily noticed anything suspicious about the way in which the Prophet brought the revelations to them - more so since the Prophetic mission lasted 23 years. The enemies of the Prophet (pbuh) kept a close watch on him in order to find proof for their claim that he was a liar - they could not point out even a single instance when the Prophet may have had a secret rendezvous with particular Jews and Christians. It is inconceivable that any human author of the Qur’an would have accepted a situation in which he received no credit whatsoever for originating the Qur’an. Thus, historically and logically it cannot be established that there was a human source for the Qur’an.[/quote] 6. MUHUMMAD (PBUH) WAS AN ILLITERATE The theory that Muhummad (pbuh) authored the Qur’an or copied from other sources can be disproved by the single historical fact that he was illiterate. Allah testifies Himself in the Qur’an In Surah Al-Ankabut chapter no.29 verse 48 "And thou was not (able) to recite a Book before this (Book came), nor art thou (able) to transcribe it with thy right hand: in that case, indeed, would the.talkers.of.vanities.have.doubted." [Al-Qur’an 29:48] Allah (swt) knew that many would doubt the authenticity of the Qur’an and would ascribe it to Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). Therefore Allah in His Divine Wisdom chose the last and final Messenger to be an ‘Ummi’, i.e. unlettered, so that the talkers of vanity would not then have the slightest justification to doubt the Prophet. The accusation of his enemies that he had copied the Qur’an from other sources and rehashed it all in a beautiful language might have carried some weight, but even this flimsy pretence has been deprived to the unbeliever and the cynic. Allah reconfirms in the Qur’an in Surah Al A’raf chapter 7 verse 157: "Those who follow the Messenger, the unlettered Prophet, whom they find mentioned in their own (Scriptures) in the Law and the Gospel" The prophecy of coming of the unlettered Prophet (pbuh) is also mentioned in the Bible in the book of Isaiah chapter 29 verse 12. "And the book is delivered to him that is not learned." [Isaiah 29:12] The Qur’an testifies in no less than four different places that the Prophet (pbuh) was illiterate. It is also mentioned in Surah A’raf chapter 7 verse 158 and in Surah Al-Jumu’a chapter 62 verse 2. 7. ARABIC VERSION OF THE BIBLE WAS NOT PRESENT The Arabic version of the Bible was not present at the time of Prophet Muhummad (pbuh). The earliest Arabic version of the Old Testament is that of R. Saadias Gaon of 900 C.E. - more than 250 years after the death of our beloved Prophet. The oldest Arabic version of the new Testament was published by Erpenius in 1616 C.E. - about a thousand years after the demise of our Prophet. 8. SIMILARITIES IN THE QUR’AN AND THE BIBLE DUE TO COMMON SOURCE Similarities between the Qur’an and the Bible does not necessarily mean that the former has been copied from the latter. In fact it gives evidence that both of them are based on a common third source; all divine revelations came from the same source - the one universal God. No matter what human changes were introduced into some of these Judeo-Christian and other older religious scriptures that had distorted their originality, there are some areas that have remained free from distortion and thus are common to many religions. It is true that there are some similar parallels between the Qur’an and the Bible but this is not sufficient to accuse Muhummad (pbuh) of compiling or copying from the Bible. The same logic would then also be applicable to teachings of Christianity and Judaism and thus one could wrongly claim that Jesus (pbuh) was not a genuine Prophet (God forbid) and that he simply copied from the Old Testament. The similarities between the two signify a common source that is one true God and the continuation of the basic message of monotheism and not that the later prophets have plagiarized from the previous prophets. If someone copies during an examination he will surely not write in the answer sheet that he has copied from his neighbour or Mr. XYZ. Prophet Muhummad (pbuh) gave due respect and credit to all the previous prophets (pbut). The Qur’an also mentions the various revelations given by Almighty God to different prophets. 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: Christians (evangelism) And Their Deceptions by Empiree: 7:22pm On Mar 13, 2015 |
9. MUSLIMS BELIEVE IN THE TAURAH, ZABOOR, INJEEL AND QUR’AN Four revelations of Allah (swt) are mentioned by name in the Qur’an: the Taurah, the Zaboor, the Injeel and the Qur’an. Taurah, the revelation i.e. the Wahi given to Moosa (a. s.) i.e. Moses (pbuh). Zaboor, the revelation i.e. the Wahi given to Dawood (a.s.) i.e. David (pbuh). Injeel, the revelation i.e. the Wahi given to Isa (A.S.) ie. Jesus (pbuh). ‘Al-Qur’an’, the last and final Wahi i.e. revelation given to the last and final Messenger Muhammad (pbuh). It is an article of faith for every Muslim to believe in all the Prophets of God and all revelations of God. However, the present day Bible has the first five books of the Old Testament attributed to Moses and the Psalms attributed to David. Moreover the New Testament or the four Gospels of the New Testament are not the Taurah, the Zaboor or the Injeel, which the Qur’an refers to. These books of the present day Bible may partly contain the word of God but these books are certainly not the exact, accurate and complete revelations given to the prophets. The Qur’an presents all the different prophets of Allah as belonging to one single brotherhood; all had a similar prophetic mission and the same basic message. Because of this, the fundamental teachings of the major faiths cannot be contradictory, even if there has been a considerable passage of time between the different prophetic missions, because the source of these missions was one: Almighty God, Allah. This is why the Qur’an says that the differences which exist between various religions are not the responsibility of the prophets, but of the followers of these prophets who forgot part of what they had been taught, and furthermore, misinterpreted and changed the scriptures. The Qur’an cannot therefore be seen as a scripture which competes with the teachings of Moses, Jesus and the other prophets. On the contrary, it confirms, completes and perfects the messages that they brought to their people. Another name for the Qur’an is the ‘The Furqan’ which means the criteria to judge the right from the wrong, and it is on the basis of the Qur’an that we can decipher which part of the previous scriptures can be considered to be the word of God. 10. SCIENTIFIC COMPARISON BETWEEN QUR’AN AND BIBLE If you glance through the Bible and the Qur’an you may find several points which appear to be exactly the same in both of them, but when you analyse them closely, you realise that there is a difference of ‘chalk and cheese’ between them. Only based on historical details it is difficult for someone who is neither conversant with Christianity or Islam to come to a firm decision as to which of the scriptures is true; however if you verify the relevant passages of both the scriptures against scientific knowledge, you will yourself realize the truth. Creation of the Universe in Six Days As per the Bible, in the first book of Genesis in Chapter One, the universe was created in six days and each day is defined as a twentyfour hours period. Even though the Qur’an mentions that the universe was created in six ‘Ayyaams’, ‘Ayyaam’ is the plural of years; this word has two meanings: firstly, it means a standard twenty-four hours period i.e. a day, and secondly, it also means stage, period or epoch which is a very long period of time. When the Qur’an mentions that the universe was created in six ‘Ayyaams’, it refers to the creation of the heavens and the earth in six long periods or epochs; scientists have no objection to this statement. The creation of the universe has taken billions of years, which proves false or contradicts the concept of the Bible which states that the creation of the Universe took six days of twenty-four hour durations each. Sun Created After the Day The Bible says in chapter 1, verses 3-5, of Genesis that the phenomenon of day and night was created on the first day of creation of the Universe by God. The light circulating in the universe is the result of a complex reaction in the stars; these stars were created according to the Bible (Genesis chapter 1 verse 14 to 19) on the fourth day. It is illogical to mention the result that is the light (the phenomenon of day and night) was created on the first day of Creation when the cause or source of the light was created three days later. Moreover the existence of evening and morning as elements of a single day is only conceivable after the creation of the earth and its rotation around the sun. In contrast with the contents of the Bible on this issue, the Qur’an does not give any unscientific sequence of Creation. Hence it is absolutely absurd to say that Prophet Muhummad (pbuh) copied the passages pertaining to the creation of the universe from the Bible but missed out this illogical and fantastic sequence of the Bible. Creation of the Sun, The Earth and the Moon According to the Bible, Book of Genesis, chapter 1, verses 9 to 13, the earth was created on the third day, and as per verses 14 to 19, the sun and the moon were created on the fourth day. The earth and the moon emanated, as we know, from their original star, the Sun. Hence to place the creation of the sun and the moon after the creation of the earth is contrary to the established idea about the formation of the solar system. Vegetation Created on the third day and Sun on the fourth day According to the Bible, Book of Genesis, chapter 1, verses 11-13, vegetation was created on the third day along with seed-bearing grasses, plants and trees; and further on as per verses 14-19, the sun was created on the fourth day. How is it scientifically possible for the vegetation to have appeared without the presence of the sun, as has been stated in the Bible? If Prophet Muhummad (pbuh) was indeed the author of the Qur’an and had copied its contents from the Bible, how did he manage to avoid the factual errors that the Bible contains? The Qur’an does not contain any statements which are incompatible with scientific facts. The Sun and the Moon both Emit light According to the Bible both the sun and the moon emit their own light. In the Book of Genesis, chapter 1, verse 16 says, "And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night". Science tells us today that the moon does not have its own light. This confirms the Qur’anic concept that the light of the moon is a reflected light. To think that 1400 years ago, Prophet Muhummad (pbuh) corrected these scientific errors in the Bible and then copied such corrected passages in the Qur’an is to think of something impossible. 2 Likes 1 Share |
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