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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 3:14pm On Jan 24
MJBOLT:
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DO YOU NOTICE THAT THE AUDIENCE SCORES FOR BOTH BLACK PANTHER AND AQUAMAN STANDS AT 79%?
THE AUDIENCE KNEW THAT BLACK PANTHER WAS OVERRATED, IF NOT THE SCORE WILL NOT BE THE SAME AS YOUR UNDER WATER WAKANDA.
DON'T QUOTE ME, I ONLY STATED WHAT I SAW

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by JJOF(m): 3:24pm On Jan 24
iuwe:

DO YOU NOTICE THAT THE AUDIENCE SCORES FOR BOTH BLACK PANTHER AND AQUAMAN STANDS AT 79%?
THE AUDIENCE KNEW THAT BLACK PANTHER WAS OVERRATED, IF NOT THE SCORE WILL NOT BE THE SAME AS YOUR UNDER WATER WAKANDA.
DON'T QUOTE ME, I ONLY STATED WHAT I SAW
WTF is dis guy?
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Shittaakeem(m): 3:30pm On Jan 24
iuwe:

DO YOU NOTICE THAT THE AUDIENCE SCORES FOR BOTH BLACK PANTHER AND AQUAMAN STANDS AT 79%?
THE AUDIENCE KNEW THAT BLACK PANTHER WAS OVERRATED, IF NOT THE SCORE WILL NOT BE THE SAME AS YOUR UNDER WATER WAKANDA.
DON'T QUOTE ME, I ONLY STATED WHAT I SAW

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Xavier5(m): 3:59pm On Jan 24
I'm glad that a Black Widow movie has been announced. This is something I've been clamouring for, A Black Widow Movie, I'm glad they are about doing it although late, to be honest, Black Widow movie should have been produced a long time ago, it should have been among the MCU phase one movies. She is one of the characters that started the MCU, her movie should have been among the first movies of the MCU but I guess Marvel didn't have the balls to produce a Female superhero movie then until WB/ DC grew some balls and paved the way for female superhero Movies with Wonder Woman now every studio want to produce a female superhero movie.

There is a breech I've seen in MCU and no one is saying anything about or they just chose to pay a blind eye to it.
At the end of Iron Man 3, Pepper had a super power with which she aided Tony Stark to defeat the villain, well that was the last time we saw a super powered pepper because the next pepper we saw was a non supe, so what happened, why wasn't pepper a super human after iron Man 3? Marvel needs to give an explanation for that. Can anyone explain that to me
Cc MJBOLT.

Congratulation to Black Panther for it's Oscar nomination although to me that movie is an average movie. Keep the African or Black biasim, mentality and sentimentalism aside. Sincerely I prefer Thor: Ragnarok to it and in terms of overall Royal super hero movie I prefer Aquaman.
The few things I love about Black panther is their Technology, Shuri's and Klaue's performance and the fact that an African nation is being portrayed as an advanced nation unlike the traditional Third world depiction.
But Anyways, congrats to Black Panther. But truthfully speaking, Aquaman should have been given an Oscar nomination especially in the Visuals, Costumes and World creation categories. Well it's Hollywood, sentimentalism, biasism and influence is bound to be there.
Black Panther deserves to be nominated, it's a good movie but average, so congrats to them. Abeg make African/ Black people movie get an Oscar nomination jor, no be every time, white people movies.
African/ Black DC and Marvel fans be happy about Black Panther Nomination jare. Once again, congrats to Black Panther and Marvel.

Spiderman: Far From Home looks promising, I just hope it will be better than that disgrace called Spiderman: Homecoming.

#Xavier.

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by XxSabrinaxX(f): 4:18pm On Jan 24
iuwe:

DO YOU NOTICE THAT THE AUDIENCE SCORES FOR BOTH BLACK PANTHER AND AQUAMAN STANDS AT 79%?
THE AUDIENCE KNEW THAT BLACK PANTHER WAS OVERRATED, IF NOT THE SCORE WILL NOT BE THE SAME AS YOUR UNDER WATER WAKANDA.
DON'T QUOTE ME, I ONLY STATED WHAT I SAW
There's a good reason they are called "Film Critics". Anybody can rate a movie, doesn't make them right. If i were you, when I check Rotten Tomatoes, i'd be looking at either the Tomatometer or the Critics Average Rating. Audience score isn't really an objective determinant of the film's overall quality. Better still, check Metacritic
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Raalsalghul: 4:48pm On Jan 24
XxSabrinaxX:

There's a good reason they are called "Film Critics". Anybody can rate a movie, doesn't make them right. If i were you, when I check Rotten Tomatoes, i'd be looking at either the Tomatometer or the Critics Average Rating. Audience score isn't really an objective determinant of the film's overall quality. Better still, check Metacritic
Dude, this is absolute rubbish. So you are saying film critics aren't biased but the audience are. Balderdash of the year cheesy cheesy cheesy Incase you don't know there is no educational path to becoming a film critic.

Anyone can claim to be so. Besides let me ask, are the critics not human like me and you. What makes their judgment special or take precedence over others. Anything flesh and blood is subject to bias including those film reviewers you worship.

Anyways guess this is what you say when you are paying them money to review your films positively. This is a new low even for you marvel fans.

Somebody help with that spit meme.

Spits! angry angry angry

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Make una come see rubbish
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by XxSabrinaxX(f): 4:59pm On Jan 24
Raalsalghul:
Dude, this is absolute rubbish.
I'm guessing you didn't see the "f" by my moniker. Then again, its very typical for some of you Nairaland users to completely skip a post and reply out of being salty and triggered.

Raalsalghul:
So you are saying film critics aren't biased but the audience are. Balderdash of the year cheesy cheesy cheesy
I'm going to ask you and you have to answer with a straight face. Who's more biased? IMDb or RottenTomatoes? Cinemascore or Metacritic?

Everyone is biased, including audiences. A movie is kind of like the Rorshach test. When we watch one and then give our thoughts about it, we’re usually revealing more about us than the movie.

They can also suffer from the Bandwagon effect as much as anybody else. They may have formed expectations about a movie prior to rełease, heard things about it before watching, all of which could skew their opinion as it could anybody.

So don't sit down there and tell me audience are any less biased than film critics.

Raalsalghul:
Incase you don't know there is no educational path to becoming a film critic.
If you care about initial critical acclaim then clearly the Tomato Meter (or Metascore on Metacritic) is the thing to pay attention to. The conglomeration of critical opinion serves as protection against the outlier critic, who pans a movie because he was in a bad mood that day or who raves it up as a favor to a friend. Accreted initial critical opinion does appear to predict for long-term regard for the quality of a film.

If you care about popular reaction, then the "audience meter" can provide some indication. But it is a self-selecting poll, so it will be skewed towards people who have an extreme opinion one way or another and people who are geeky enough to register an opinion; as a web entity it's also somewhat subject to the hype/backlash cycles driven by internet chatter and publicity. So the question becomes "how much are the voters for this like me?" Only you can answer that, and the answer will be different for different films and different types of films.


Raalsalghul:
Anyone can claim to be so. Besides let me ask, are the critics not human like me and you. What makes their judgment special or take precedence of others. Anything flesh and blood is subject to bias including those film reviewers you worship.

Anyways guess this is what you say when you are paying them money to review your films positively. This is a new low even for you marvel fans.

Somebody help with spit meme.

Spits! angry angry angry

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Make una come see rubbish
All this salt is completely uncalled for, given that you completely missed the point of my post. Then again you DC fans are so familiar with the victim card you pull it out at any given opportunity. In case you don't know, its very easy to rig IMDb and RT audience scores if you have multiple accounts. Open Sesame wink

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Raalsalghul: 6:01pm On Jan 24
Who cares about the "f" in your moniker. I can affix same to my mine tomorrow. undecided undecided and claim to be a female. So bleep that.

Did you read my mention before? undecided

Where the fucck did I say that audiences are less biased than critics. If I remember correctly, I said anything flesh and blood is subject to biased. Critics and audiences included.

In addition to that, you are saying an outlier critic can't judge a film objectively. Because their reviews are different from the crowd, we should hiss and pass. WTF are u saying dude? Accreted initial opinion: what does that mean anyway. Speak english horse.

Obviously, I didn't miss the point of your post. Guess you did seeing that you have back tracked on your initial statement.

True, imdb and rt scores can be rigged by any set of individuals including marvelites. Thanks for coming out clean on that. Guess you have multiple RT/IMDB accounts too. wink cheesy cheesy

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by XxSabrinaxX(f): 6:07pm On Jan 24
Raalsalghul:
Who cares about the "f" in your moniker. I can affix same to my mine tomorrow. undecided undecided and claim to be a female. So bleep that.

Did you read my mention before? undecided

Where the fucck did I say that audiences are less biased than critics. If I remember correctly, I said anything flesh and blood is subject to biased. Critics and audiences included.

In addition to that, you are saying an outlier critic can't judge a film objectively. Because their reviews are different from the crowd, we should hiss and pass. WTF are u saying dude? Accreted initial opinion: what does that mean anyway. Speak english horse.

Obviously, I didn't miss the point of your post. Guess you did seeing that you have back tracked on your initial statement.

True, imdb and rt scores can be rigged by any set of individuals including marvelites. Thanks for coming out clean on that. Guess you have multiple RT/IMDB accounts too. wink cheesy cheesy
Your bias and intolerant attitude deserves no reply. Carry on with your nonsense. I've explained myself already. I don't breathe Marvel and DC like Oxygen the way you guys do here abi how often do you see me here? I'm just a casual fan so don't drag me into your pointless fanboy wars. I never backtracked. I simply responded to a fellow who implied that audience scores were more reliable than critic scores. So keep chasing your shadow here. You have literally no idea what the argument is about.

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Raalsalghul: 6:21pm On Jan 24
XxSabrinaxX:

Your bias and intolerant attitude deserves no reply. Carry on with your nonsense. I've explained myself already. I don't breathe Marvel and DC like Oxygen the way you guys do here abi how often do you see me here? I'm just a casual fan so don't drag me into your pointless fanboy wars. I never backtracked. I simply responded to a fellow who implied that audience scores were more reliable than critic scores. So keep chasing your shadow here. You have literally no idea what the argument is about.
You are anything but a casual fan. You reek of the marvel verse. Have fun cheesy

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by XxSabrinaxX(f): 6:24pm On Jan 24
Raalsalghul:
You are anything but a casual fan. You reek of the marvel verse. Have fun cheesy
You need to get off DC's d!ck before you get pregnant. I didn't even respond to you initially so I don't understand why you're on my neck. Look at my posts; my main domain on Nairaland is the religious sections. I only come here once a while, so don't flatter yourself.

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Raalsalghul: 6:29pm On Jan 24
XxSabrinaxX:

You need to get off DC's d!ck before you get pregnant. I didn't even respond to you initially so I don't understand why you're on my neck. Look at my posts; my main domain on Nairaland is the religious sections. I only come here once a while, so don't flatter yourself.
DC can ride me for all I care at least I've got the guts to accept the truth unlike you forming a casual when I can bet you are currently sniffing marvel's ass. cheesy cheesy cheesy grin grin grin

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by XxSabrinaxX(f): 6:35pm On Jan 24
Raalsalghul:
DC can ride me for all I care at least I've got the guts to accept the truth unlike you forming a casual when I can bet you are currently sniffing marvel's ass. cheesy cheesy cheesy grin grin grin
E pain am grin grin grin. I've removed hand from your case, later you guys will be accusing Marvel fans of dickriding. I'm glad you've admitted your own sin grin.
Well, if you don't mind, I have other forums to be in. So feel free and respond with your last joke as I'm sure you butthurt comic fanboys are very fond of doing here. I know it helps with the low self-esteem wink.

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Shittaakeem(m): 6:39pm On Jan 24
XxSabrinaxX:

E pain am grin grin grin. I've removed hand from your case, later you guys will be accusing Marvel fans of dickriding. I'm glad you've admitted your own sin grin.
Well, if you don't mind, I have other forums to be in. So feel free and respond with your last joke as I'm sure you butthurt comic fanboys are very fond of doing here. I know it helps with the low self-esteem wink.
kiss kiss kiss kiss

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by MJBOLT: 6:40pm On Jan 24
marvel bribe critics yet they cant back it up,typical of a DC tard - they will say anything to feel good.
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by XxSabrinaxX(f): 6:40pm On Jan 24
Shittaakeem:

kiss kiss kiss kiss
Exactly grin

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Raalsalghul: 6:44pm On Jan 24
XxSabrinaxX:

E pain am grin grin grin. I've removed hand from your case, later you guys will be accusing Marvel fans of dickriding. I'm glad you've admitted your own sin grin.
Well, if you don't mind, I have other forums to be in. So feel free and respond with your last joke as I'm sure you butthurt comic fanboys are very fond of doing here. I know it helps with the low self-esteem wink.
You wanna bail out when I was beginning to have fun? grin
Come on horse, don't tell me you gonna keep sniffing Marvel's ass right into other forums. cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy

Other folks aren't that tolerant to the ass stink. wink
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Guykhena(m): 7:32pm On Jan 24
Xavier5:


There is a breech I've seen in MCU and no one is saying anything about or they just chose to pay a blind eye to it.
At the end of Iron Man 3, Pepper had a super power with which she aided Tony Stark to defeat the villain, well that was the last time we saw a super powered pepper because the next pepper we saw was a non supe, so what happened, why wasn't pepper a super human after iron Man 3? Marvel needs to give an explanation for that. Can anyone explain that to me
That was no breach in the MCU, at the end of Iron Man 3, the extremis virus giving Pepper Potts her "super powers" was basically stabilized at the end of the movie(if you still remember), in other words she was cured. So the effects not popping up with her presence in the other movies signified that the stabilizing effect against the extremis virus worked fine.

Hope its clarified now?
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 7:52pm On Jan 24
XxSabrinaxX:

There's a good reason they are called "Film Critics". Anybody can rate a movie, doesn't make them right. If i were you, when I check Rotten Tomatoes, i'd be looking at either the Tomatometer or the Critics Average Rating. Audience score isn't really an objective determinant of the film's overall quality. Better still, check Metacritic
YES YOU ARE RIGHT THEY ARE CALLED "FILM CRITICS" FOR A GOOD REASON BUT THAT DOESN'T MAKE THEM GOD.

LET US TAKE AN EXAMPLE THOR-THE DARK WORLD AND ANT-MAN AND THE WASP SINCE THEY ARE BOTH CBM LIKE AQUAMAN. YOU AND I KNOW THAT THOSE TWO MOVIES ARE NOWHERE AS ENTERTAINING AS AQUAMAN BUT THEIR SO CALLED CRITICS AVERAGE RATING WERE HIGHER THAN AQUAMAN JUST BECAUSE THEY WERE UNDER "THE DISNEY-MARVEL" LOGO.

COUNTLESS NUMBER OF TIMES YOUR SO CALLED "FILM CRITICS" HAS RATED A GOOD MOVIE POORLY AND OUT PRAISED A BAD ONE. THERE IS A REASON NOWADAYS NO ONE GIVES A SH*T ABOUT THEIR RATING.

NOW FOR THE BOLDED, YOU ARE TOTALLY WRONG AND YOUR POINT BASICALLY BASELESS. I AM SURE YOU KNOW THAT DISNEY-MARVEL DIDN'T MAKE THOSE MOVIES FOR YOUR SO CALLED "FILM CRITICS" BUT THE AUDIENCE AND THEY ARE THE ONE THAT MAKES A BOX OFFICE HIT.

REMEMBER IN MOVIE INDUSTRY A GOOD WORD OF MOUTH IS BETTER THAN ANY CRITICAL ANALYSIS. ok

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by XxSabrinaxX(f): 8:01pm On Jan 24
iuwe:

YES YOU ARE RIGHT THEY ARE CALLED "FILM CRITICS" FOR A GOOD REASON BUT THAT DOESN'T MAKE THEM GOD.

LET US TAKE AN EXAMPLE THOR-THE DARK WORLD AND ANT-MAN AND THE WASP SINCE THEY ARE BOTH CBM LIKE AQUAMAN. YOU AND I KNOW THAT THOSE TWO MOVIES ARE NOWHERE AS ENTERTAINING AS AQUAMAN BUT THEIR SO CALLED CRITICS AVERAGE RATING WERE HIGHER THAN AQUAMAN JUST BECAUSE THEY WERE UNDER "THE DISNEY-MARVEL" LOGO.

COUNTLESS NUMBER OF TIMES YOUR SO CALLED "FILM CRITICS" HAS RATED A GOOD MOVIE POORLY AND OUT PRAISED A BAD ONE. THERE IS A REASON NOWADAYS NO ONE GIVES A SH*T ABOUT THEIR RATING.

NOW FOR THE BOLDED, YOU ARE TOTALLY WRONG AND YOUR POINT BASICALLY BASELESS. I AM SURE YOU KNOW THAT DISNEY-MARVEL DIDN'T MAKE THOSE MOVIES FOR YOUR SO CALLED "FILM CRITICS" BUT THE AUDIENCE AND THEY ARE THE ONE THAT MAKES A BOX OFFICE HIT.

REMEMBER IN MOVIE INDUSTRY A GOOD WORD OF MOUTH IS BETTER THAN ANY CRITICAL ANALYSIS. ok
Go back to my subsequent posts after that. You're basically arguing for me.
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 8:15pm On Jan 24
Who says I am arguing for you? You made it clear that audience score are inconsequential to a movie quality. So I ask, would you keep going to see a movie that reeks of mediocrity just because a group of people decides that it is a good movie? When I see a movie I have the rights to decide whether it is a good movie or not. Black panther and Aquaman had the same audience rating but defers in critical analysis just because of different factor.

Black panther capitalized on black power in the U.S and that was the only place it bested Aquaman in terms of box office earnings. Foreign box office tells a different tale because nobody gives a shit.
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Raalsalghul: 8:20pm On Jan 24
iuwe:

YES YOU ARE RIGHT THEY ARE CALLED "FILM CRITICS" FOR A GOOD REASON BUT THAT DOESN'T MAKE THEM GOD.

LET US TAKE AN EXAMPLE THOR-THE DARK WORLD AND ANT-MAN AND THE WASP SINCE THEY ARE BOTH CBM LIKE AQUAMAN. YOU AND I KNOW THAT THOSE TWO MOVIES ARE NOWHERE AS ENTERTAINING AS AQUAMAN BUT THEIR SO CALLED CRITICS AVERAGE RATING WERE HIGHER THAN AQUAMAN JUST BECAUSE THEY WERE UNDER "THE DISNEY-MARVEL" LOGO.

COUNTLESS NUMBER OF TIMES YOUR SO CALLED "FILM CRITICS" HAS RATED A GOOD MOVIE POORLY AND OUT PRAISED A BAD ONE. THERE IS A REASON NOWADAYS NO ONE GIVES A SH*T ABOUT THEIR RATING.

NOW FOR THE BOLDED, YOU ARE TOTALLY WRONG AND YOUR POINT BASICALLY BASELESS. I AM SURE YOU KNOW THAT DISNEY-MARVEL DIDN'T MAKE THOSE MOVIES FOR YOUR SO CALLED "FILM CRITICS" BUT THE AUDIENCE AND THEY ARE THE ONE THAT MAKES A BOX OFFICE HIT.

REMEMBER IN MOVIE INDUSTRY A GOOD WORD OF MOUTH IS BETTER THAN ANY CRITICAL ANALYSIS. ok
Thanks for schooling her! Twas the same reason I quoted her. Who da Bleep says audience reviews are in consequential. I suggest you back out of this one bro. The horse is confused. cheesy cheesy
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by hulk616: 8:50pm On Jan 24
Raalsalghul:
Thanks for schooling her! Twas the same reason I quoted her. Who da Bleep says audience reviews are in consequential. I suggest you back out of this one bro. The horse is confused. cheesy cheesy
DC Losers should leave black panther alone. The movie is better than the whole DCEU. Go and cry in your dark universe where no one will see you.

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by TheKingIsHere: 8:50pm On Jan 24
Raalsalghul:
Dude, this is absolute rubbish. So you are saying film critics aren't biased but the audience are. Balderdash of the year cheesy cheesy cheesy Incase you don't know there is no educational path to becoming a film critic.

Anyone can claim to be so. Besides let me ask, are the critics not human like me and you. What makes their judgment special or take precedence over others. Anything flesh and blood is subject to bias including those film reviewers you worship.

Anyways guess this is what you say when you are paying them money to review your films positively. This is a new low even for you marvel fans.

Somebody help with that spit meme.

Spits! angry angry angry

Cc: tonyspike, philfearon, blackmanta, eyedea, thekingishere, minemrys, xavier5
Make una come see rubbish

Bro, you want to finish person pikin this night abi. You did well schooling dem fanboys.

I can see dem marvel fanboys in pain right now cheesy

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by hulk616: 8:53pm On Jan 24
Raalsalghul:
Dude, this is absolute rubbish. So you are saying film critics aren't biased but the audience are. Balderdash of the year cheesy cheesy cheesy Incase you don't know there is no educational path to becoming a film critic.

Anyone can claim to be so. Besides let me ask, are the critics not human like me and you. What makes their judgment special or take precedence over others. Anything flesh and blood is subject to bias including those film reviewers you worship.

Anyways guess this is what you say when you are paying them money to review your films positively. This is a new low even for you marvel fans.

Somebody help with that spit meme.

Spits! angry angry angry

Cc: tonyspike, philfearon, blackmanta, eyedea, thekingishere, minemrys, xavier5
Make una come see rubbish
look at them calling themselves to see DCEU rubbish

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Raalsalghul: 8:56pm On Jan 24
hulk616:
look at them calling themselves to see DCEU rubbish
As usual, I don't expect you to make any useful contribution. undecided
Afterall, the hulk in the comics/movies is a semi-zombie character undecided

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by hulk616: 8:58pm On Jan 24
TheKingIsHere:


Bro, you want to finish person pikin this night abi. You did well schooling dem fanboys.

I can see dem marvel fanboys in pain right now cheesy
8 Oscars nominations, 4Billion dollars in box office, lots of awards compared to DCEU 0 Oscars nominations. And you are saying we are in pains. I don't blame you when all your movies don't have logic or sense

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by hulk616: 9:00pm On Jan 24
Raalsalghul:
As usual, I don't expect you to make any useful contribution. undecided
Afterall, the hulk in the comics/movies is a semi-zombie character undecided
don't cry. I will bring Martha immediately I promise

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by philfearon(m): 9:02pm On Jan 24
Anybody that dares compare Black Panther to Aquaman, i will burn down this thread!!!

Please go and do your comparison with Lionheart (produced by Gennie)...
grin grin grin grin

Aquaman says hi by the way!!!!

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 9:05pm On Jan 24
Raalsalghul:
Thanks for schooling her! Twas the same reason I quoted her. Who da Bleep says audience reviews are in consequential. I suggest you back out of this one bro. The horse is confused. cheesy cheesy

The only reason why black panther was a critical success are

DISNEY-MARVEL LOGO - We all know that Disney is a well established brand and whereas people mostly go for the container not the content.

BLACK SUPERHERO - Black panther was the first black super hero so yes it has to be rated a little high so people can go see it.

POLITICAL CORRECTNESS - Yes nobody even critics don't want to be accused of racism especially during the Trump regime

SJW - Stay woke or go broke

The most absurd reason

DIVERSE CAST - How does all black cast = diverse cast? Where dem Asians? Latinos? Indians?

The only good thing about BP is their strong female cast but same can be said about Aquaman.

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 9:06pm On Jan 24
Raalsalghul:
Thanks for schooling her! Twas the same reason I quoted her. Who da Bleep says audience reviews are in consequential. I suggest you back out of this one bro. The horse is confused. cheesy cheesy

The only reason why black panther was a critical success are

DISNEY-MARVEL LOGO - We all know that Disney is a well established brand and whereas people mostly go for the container not the content.

BLACK SUPERHERO - Black panther was the first black super hero so yes it has to be rated a little high so people can go see it.

POLITICAL CORRECTNESS - Yes nobody even critics don't want to be accused of racism especially during the Trump regime

SJW - Stay woke or go broke

The most absurd reason

DIVERSE CAST - How does all black cast = diverse cast? Where dem Asians? Latinos? Indians?

The only good thing about BP is their strong female cast but same can be said about Aquaman. Black panther is as good as Aquaman. So if Aquaman is terrible so is Black panther
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by XxSabrinaxX(f): 9:06pm On Jan 24
iuwe:
Who says I am arguing for you? You made it clear that audience score are inconsequential to a movie quality. So I ask, would you keep going to see a movie that reeks of mediocrity just because a group of people decides that it is a good movie? When I see a movie I have the rights to decide whether it is a good movie or not. Black panther and Aquaman had the same audience rating but defers in critical analysis just because of different factor.

Black panther capitalized on black power in the U.S and that was the only place it bested Aquaman in terms of box office earnings. Foreign box office tells a different tale because nobody gives a shit.
You implied that the general audience rated black panther better than the critics. How do you know this? What scale do you use to measure a movie's quality? Audience members aren't film critics. Audience and critics value different things. Audience looks at blockbusters as a form of entertainment, while critics evaluate movies as art.

You may be asking, what's so important about film critics?

I think each critic is different…. but on a fundamental level all critics are doing the same thing.

The first thing they teach you in art theory; Your aesthetics professor walks into class shows you a work of art and then asks you 'what you see'. If you were to critically analyze a piece of music it would be 'what you here' and in the case if cinema it is 'what you see and hear' (or in the case of a silent film 'see').

In cinema you are able to see colors, form and movement. You are able to hear sound effects, music and dialogue. From there we begin to contextualize content.

We hear an actor say a line of dialogue and we ask ourselves if it was well delivered or not. We see two actors flirting with each other and we ask ourselves if they have chemistry. We hear a piece of music fade up from the background and we ask if it moves us emotionally. If you watch a narrative film you ask yourself what was the plot? Did they convey that plot efficiently? Were there any loopholes?

The conventions of popular criticism is to look at acting performance and story before everything else. Sometimes we hear about wonderful special effects, sometimes we might hear something about a score. This is a very myopic (and populist) way of approaching criticism. Critical analysis of cinema is much more than a few lines about which actor you like the most.

Good criticism is not just about breaking a film down into it’s basic forms, and evaluating it. It is also placing that film in a broader context. You could talk about it in the context of the director’s other works. Or if it is a Western you could compare it to previous films in the genre. Or if it is somehow pushing the limits of technology you could speak about why and how it was achieved — perhaps extrapolate where that technology might lead us. When you ask a question about what a critic looks for in a movie, you must first ask what the critic is ‘LOOKING FOR’ meaning why is the critic motivated to critique the piece in the first place.

However, some ‘critics’ are not critics…. they are ‘movie reviewers’ who are paid to summarize and comment on cinema for popular consumption. In this case they are going to talk about the movie stars, and the story, and the special effects — the things popular audiences want to see in a film (and consequently want to read about in relation to the film). These people are part of broader marketing mechanisms to help sell their publications AND help sell tickets to movies.

Real critics are trying to explain broader points about cinema as a whole OR are trying to look at something hyper-specific. A critic might want to look at the history of LGBT cinema from Latin American countries. Or analysis the differences between pre/post 9/11 American action films.

Keep in mind that critics are doing a job, which is to dissect the movie they watch and write a review of it, and that review is not for you but for the movie industry. You, on the other hand, are a consumer. You go to the movies for entertainment purposes, whether that is to be amused, thrilled, chilled or informed. You watch the movie (presumably) that you are interested in, not one you have to watch as part of a job.

One issue that critics have with movies these days, maybe rightly so, is the lack of originality. This is primarily due to the fact that movies are expensive to make, and as a result, difficulty to make a profit on. More often than not most films produced are not huge money makers, if at all, and many end up as financial loses to their producers. As a result the big studios that produce them have relied on knowm money makers to make sequel after sequel because they are a know and reliable factor. Think about the Avengers, Jurassic Park, Dispicable Me/Minions and the upcoming Avatar films. why produce an art film, that critics may love but few will see if you can produce a superhero sequel that will make $1 billion world wide plus the money from all the tie ins such as toys and the answer becomes a no brainer.

At the end of the day both Critics and Audience are valuable. They both have their faults but they need each other to succeed. Writing off critics from now till eternity won't diminish the influence they hold over the film industry

Edit: By the way, I can see many salty, low self esteem wastemen lumping me in as a Marvel fangirl. If I'm being honest, I care only for these heroes in the entire comic book world:
Spider-Man (My number 1 of whom I'm a fangirl sometimes)
X-Men
Flash
Shazam!
So please don't deceive yourselves into thinking I'm a Marvel fangirl. That would be a serious delusion wink

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