na so he be

It boils down to what you want. It is not a Nigerian thing, there are also many Nigerian sites developed from scratch.

write2obi:

Hope u know u don't haf sense

yes i dnt haf sense but i have sence mumu lik u

From my experience, most Nigerian clients can't afford to pay for a custom made cms...they prefer cheap ND also the time frame dey give sometimes is unrealistic

Ladybluecash:
because cms is close to obalende

maximunimpact:
As a programmer, I ignored cms and focused on coding, that's cos I want to learn from the scratch, but in reality, clients wants it fast..........and cms is d answer!

this is what i do:

Learn the language 90% then use CMS

1. PHP i know php to a alrge extent so i use Yii Framework/Processwire even you can't use this without knowing PHP

2. JavaScript i know this lanuage more than my ex-gf so i use Dojotoolkit/AngularJS you can't use Dojo if you don't know Javacript Angular is easy but when it comes to complex use like Monkey Patching an existing service/factory that's when you need to know your JavaScript

3. Java I know Java 50% which is why i am jumping to Spring Framework

Its about time saving, no company and i repeat no company is going to pay you to build soemthing from scratch when it exists already because:

1. They don't trust your code because who's using it
2. There's no community or an amount of people using your code.\

No company wants to code a project half way and discover its trash when other CMS/FW have proven records. Stop thinking this way bro i work in a IT Company there's no Framework/CMS and Enterprise Solutions we haven't touched. Time is money. work for an Enterprise environment and you will see the difference in how tech are selected.

I use to be a lover cms until I met this website developer who I contracted to build me a market place website. Against my wish he insisted that he would build it from scratch. Believe me he has been on it for five months now but the functionalities are good. I didn't regret because 1. The whole architecture is mine. 2. it's not subject to any change occasioned by forces beyond you like the owners of the cms. I am loving the feel even though it is in the test running stage. You will need plenty of patience and money to accomplish this. But I think it's better.

deanozone:
From my experience, most Nigerian clients can't afford to pay for a custom made cms...they prefer cheap ND also the time frame dey give sometimes is unrealistic

though i am thinking if making a Custom made cms with Yii2 it will look like Concrete 5 drag and drop sadly no community in Nigeria only me can't build such. all the CMS i use have a short coming

ascek:
I use to be a lover cms until I met this website developer who I contracted to build me a market place website. Against my wish he insisted that he would build it from scratch. Believe me he has been on it for five months now but the functionalities are good. I didn't regret because 1. The whole architecture is mine. 2. it's not subject to any change occasioned by forces beyond you like the owners of the cms. I am loving the feel even though it is in the test running stage. You will need plenty of patience and money to accomplish this. But I think it's better.

same can be done with frameworks look at Yii it's easy to build PHP Apps

I guess time and the ease of doing things is responsible.

Moreover, it's cheaper and businesses are looking for ways to minimize operation costs.

So, CMS comes in handy.

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lol i just realized am in the webmaster section.... not programming so i can understand the post now. Goodbye all i don't belong here

Many so called Nigerian programmer don't know the "TECHNICAL KNOW HOW".

CMS( Content management systems) is a framework developed by some group of "fellow developers using the normal programming languages any web developer will use to create a site any time which are php,html,css,jquery and others". Plugins extend the fucntionalities of your website. plugins do not restrict to cms only, when you want to add functions to your website, "the code you write to put that function on the website is actually a plugin". In wordpress, the package of these snippet codes is called plugins. if you want to use a jquery plugin for example, you will need to add the "code" to your website. Whether you use a CMS or you code from scratch using the web programming languages, html,css,php,mysql,jquery and the rest depending on what you want to achieve, its all the same "CODES" and ''WEB PROGRAMMING LANGUAGES" you will use and apply. Most foreign websites, yes very secured ones are on cms, so whether foreign or local, there is no difference.
All that matter is knowing the languages very well to even tweak the CMS to your own taste to achieve your clients needs.

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So you telling I should go and hire someone for 2-3million naira just to design my dream social network/forum? Bros Na lie o. Phpbb and co is there for that. Its easier to hire someone to arrange it the way you want abeg.

what is the whoe essence of life and technology?? is it to do things faster, easier and with less stress.... So why would i want to disturb myself with all those coding and co. when i can easily get thesame result in a faster way??

jcmaiah:
So you telling I should go and hire someone for 2-3million naira just to design my dream social network/forum? Bros Na lie o. Phpbb and co is there for that. Its easier to hire someone to arrange it the way you want abeg.

and when the site get hacked, the dream will die.

southwestngr:

and when the site get hacked, the dream will die.

Nairaland was hacked even though they were not using CMS.

The point is DON'T EVER RE-INVENT THE WHEEL!
Unless there is something outrighly different you want to offer.
CMS or Framework is not a bad idea.

If you have ever used Microsoft Word to type a letter, then you have used a CMS.
If you have ever used Photoshop to crop your picture, then you have used a CMS.

Just imagine developing your own Word Editor like MS Word just to type a letter.

The problem we should be looking at is: Our inability to make CMS, Framework or plugins better.
We should not just use wordpress and joomla basically. We should learn how to unleash the powers of wordpress and joomla by forking them and turning them around to achieve amazing things.

Mashable.com was using woprdpress. Mashable is one of the biggest blogs in the world. It was later that they developed a custom cms for their blog.

New York Times blog is running on A CMS (woprdpress). The official website of the government of USA is running on a CMS (drupal).

Even facebook (http://newsroom.fb.com/), google (http://www.gv.com/), mozilla (https://blog.mozilla.org/), and blackberry (http://blogs.blackberry.com/) are using a CMS (wordpress) in their blogs. Why didn't they develop a blog cms for their blogs? That will not important since there is a good one on ground.

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http://www.beyonce.com/
http://blog.ebay.com/
http://blog.us.playstation.com/
http://www.blogs.xerox.com/
http://www.bata.com/
http://stores.bestbuy.com/577/
http://qz.com/
http://product.espn.com/
http://lumiaconversations.microsoft.com/
https://social.ford.com/content/fordsocial/en/home-page.html
http://fortune.com/
http://newsroom.fb.com/
http://marksandspencerforbusiness.com/
http://www.gv.com/
https://hbr.org/
http://larrykinglive.blogs.cnn.com/
http://blogs.blackberry.com/

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Ladybluecash:
because cms is close to obalende

epic

I believe you have summarized it concisely. "Why reinvent the wheel?" Personally I felt the post didn't warrant a response but since you bothered to make one I will simply like, and endorse it.

I'd also like to add that these racial comments often sound like they came from a place without knowledge or information. 90% of websites EVEN some united states government sites use CMSes. But because we are black we should just suffer and "do our own"... Don't drive cars ride donkeys instead, dont uses cellphones train pidgeons or trek like "the buhari traveler" to deliver 30 second d messages, because the tech is western? Come to think if it, why do u even use their computers "do your own na!".

If there is a need to write custom code we are more than capable of writing our own code but optimizing the efforts of thousands and millions of programmers in the Open Source community is the prudent way to go!

pcguru1:


That's an unfair statement to make, you use something to get the job done, also by white guys what does this mean ? you do know that White people use our tech too, Check Precurio, I contribute to a CMS platform called ImpressPages and I get mails from people outside Nigeria to help fix some of the plugins i created. that mindset doesn't belong in the Technology space. Why rebuild the wheel when it's been done already.

I use Frameworks and CMS and also extend and create plugins for CMS/Frameworks, so what's the big deal ? use frameworks and CMS if u must they were built to be used. so i should Session Plugin/Authentication Plugins from scratch/Flash manager,Asset Bundler, Dispatcher just because I want to prove myself. please it's not realistic. This is modern development only thing i would say is even using this frameworks pple still should learn the underlying tech.

I started off by coding; sometimes I use Firework to create my own conceptualized template then I embed the code to make it interactive but then came these one minute CMS (Content Management System) based only sets of web developers; the ripple effect is that clients who don't know much now want more for less

I had to re-strategize & join in the use of wordpress & Joomla. Though I find it a bit limiting to my creativity but the clients are happy.

pcguru1:


same can be done with frameworks look at Yii it's easy to build PHP Apps

While I must say I a novice I will relay what you said now to my developer. Thanks sir.

Terahertz:
I believe you have summarized it concisely. "Why reinvent the wheel?" Personally I felt the post didn't warrant a response but since you bothered to make one I will simply like, and endorse it.

I'd also like to add that these racial comments often sound like they came from a place without knowledge or information. 90% of websites EVEN some united states government sites use CMSes. But because we are black we should just suffer and "do our own"... Don't drive cars ride donkeys instead, dont uses cellphones train pidgeons or trek like "the buhari traveler" to deliver 30 second d messages, because the tech is western? Come to think if it, why do u even use their computers "do your own na!".

If there is a need to write custom code we are more than capable of writing our own code but optimizing the efforts of thousands and millions of programmers in the Open Source community is the prudent way to go!

I promised not to reply here but after this your reply. Your response is the best. Trusted solutions would be used and should be used. Frankly this is webmaster section so I don't expect the Op to understand. Let me him come to the programming section and post the same.

directonpc:
Just wondering why our 99% percent of our websites and applications are based on some wysiwyg cms or framework. The sites with high traffic in Nigeria are mostly e-commerce sites and blogs running on one platform that was developed by some white guy somewhere.
Even simple non-dynamic html sites are built from templates in Nigeria. We are the Giants of Africa and this practice is won't up our game in the web development industry if u ask me.
Is it that we are scared of coding or we are dull?

*NL isn't perfect but am happy it's not just another WordPress blog. I pray the owner can get a good team to make NL more social.
Please CMS lovers do not insult me if you don't like what am saying.

Your post is absolutely pointless and senseless . You complain about something without proposing an alternative . I have met your type in my line of work and the truth is they have no expertise them self .

i tot am d only 1 noticing this in nigeria. whenever a new site is lunched, i will view the source lol nd behold is created with cms. jeez, why can't you guys jst learn these web programs. check this out Raycom, i design this site without any cms. why don't we start from scratch but wana become a pro overnite? i started coding 8 yrs ago and i realy enjoyed it and is fun. lets do it ourselves nd stop depending on cms.

...why does OP love packaged sugar when there is sugarcane? SMH...nigerian mentality

wethebest:
i tot am d only 1 noticing this in nigeria. whenever a new site is lunched, i will view the source lol nd behold is created with cms. jeez, why can't you guys jst learn these web programs. check this out Raycom, i design this site without any cms. why don't we start from scratch but wana become a pro overnite? i started coding 8 yrs ago and i realy enjoyed it and is fun. lets do it ourselves nd stop depending on cms.

there is a huge difference btwn a programmer and a developer...you're a programmer(a bit jobless one..no offense intended pls) and not a developer

it is more affordable... simple!

directonpc:
Just wondering why our 99% percent of our websites and applications are based on some wysiwyg cms or framework. The sites with high traffic in Nigeria are mostly e-commerce sites and blogs running on one platform that was developed by some white guy somewhere.
Even simple non-dynamic html sites are built from templates in Nigeria. We are the Giants of Africa and this practice is won't up our game in the web development industry if u ask me.
Is it that we are scared of coding or we are dull?

*NL isn't perfect but am happy it's not just another WordPress blog. I pray the owner can get a good team to make NL more social.
Please CMS lovers do not insult me if you don't like what am saying.

pcguru1:


same can be done with frameworks look at Yii it's easy to build PHP Apps

This what my developer said.
[10:56, 5/1/2015] Olamide: That's why I said I vote for frameworks
[10:57, 5/1/2015] Olamide: Frameworks emcourage good coding while reducing production time
[10:57, 5/1/2015] Olamide: But they can be challenging to learn
[10:57, 5/1/2015] Olamide: As for cms, it's not good
[10:57, 5/1/2015] Olamide: Different cms for different things
[10:58, 5/1/2015] Olamide: But once one can be hacked, all can be hacked
[11:20, 5/1/2015] Olamide: Yii is also good
[11:20, 5/1/2015] Olamide: So is Symphony and Laravel
[11:20, 5/1/2015] Olamide: And codeigniter and cakephp
[11:20, 5/1/2015] Olamide: And phalcon
[11:20, 5/1/2015] Olamide: And zend
[11:20, 5/1/2015] Olamide: So many php frameworks
[11:21, 5/1/2015] Olamide: But when clients are in a hurry and are not willing to pay, developers will use cms
[11:21, 5/1/2015] Olamide: I could have used drupal or wordpress or joomla
[11:22, 5/1/2015] Olamide: But all these cms have issues. Once those issues start, fixing them may become a serious thorn

directonpc:
Just wondering why our 99% percent of our websites and applications are based on some wysiwyg cms or framework. The sites with high traffic in Nigeria are mostly e-commerce sites and blogs running on one platform that was developed by some white guy somewhere.
Even simple non-dynamic html sites are built from templates in Nigeria. We are the Giants of Africa and this practice is won't up our game in the web development industry if u ask me.
Is it that we are scared of coding or we are dull?

*NL isn't perfect but am happy it's not just another WordPress blog. I pray the owner can get a good team to make NL more social.
Please CMS lovers do not insult me if you don't like what am saying.

Nairaland was built on the SMF framework. I guess alot of tweaks got it to where it is today. Why reinvent the wheel when you can build on exisiting ones?

BBC and whitehouse.gov both run on a stripped down version of drupal with alot of tweaks and modifications.

It also has alot to do with convenience, end-user proficiency, agreements and ultimately budget. You don't drive a passenger from lagos to abuja just because you know how to drive whereas he is only willing to pay #3000 for the journey.