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Re: Muslims Copied Ablution From The Bible by maverickboy: 11:25pm On Feb 06, 2016
truthman2012:
And the Lord said unto him,
Now do ye Pharisees make
clean the outside of the cup
and the platter; but your
inward part is full of ravening
and wickedness (Luke 11:39).

Ablution: The muslims wash their various outer parts of the body when the inside is full of immoralities and wickedness. The washing doesn't remove the sinful nature in them: they can lie and commit all sorts immoralities.

I learnt that when on travel where there is no water, they can use sand to wash their private part after urinating. Do women too put sand in their private part? Look at islamic neatness!
grin will you ever grow up with these senseless threads you are opening?

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Re: Muslims Copied Ablution From The Bible by Nobody: 11:33pm On Feb 06, 2016
Lols.... Most muslim knows, bt d are just afraid of death.
Re: Muslims Copied Ablution From The Bible by Nobody: 2:10am On Feb 07, 2016
Empiree thank you for exposing truthman2012

One can't trust these useless kiriyo pastors

He's definitely one of those who smooch young girls in church ⛪No be today

Someone recently told me a story about these kiriyo pastors but that's a story for another day

Just get ready to make your albums.I'll be revealing it anytime soon

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Re: Muslims Copied Ablution From The Bible by Nobody: 6:35am On Feb 07, 2016
mustymatic:

does this make sense to you? you mean Jesus and other prophets had their chests to the ground there is no where u can prove their chests were on the ground... imagine ur thinking. If it has said "fell on knees" then u will say Christians kneel before the altar or something.... if u cant describe falling on one's face as prostration I don't know what is ..at least Muslims are closer to Jesus than modern Christians. haahaa i don't think Christians fall on their faces to pray.. can you tell us why? why do they sing and dance in church?
Actually Christians prostrate, Latins, Byzantines, Copts, Syriacs etc.
Re: Muslims Copied Ablution From The Bible by Nobody: 6:36am On Feb 07, 2016
mustymatic:

does this make sense to you? you mean Jesus and other prophets had their chests to the ground there is no where u can prove their chests were on the ground... imagine ur thinking. If it has said "fell on knees" then u will say Christians kneel before the altar or something.... if u cant describe falling on one's face as prostration I don't know what is ..at least Muslims are closer to Jesus than modern Christians. haahaa i don't think Christians fall on their faces to pray.. can you tell us why? why do they sing and dance in church?
Actually Christians prostrate, Latins, Byzantines, Copts, Syriacs etc. I have a feeling Muslims learnt about prostrations from Jews and Christians.
Re: Muslims Copied Ablution From The Bible by mustymatic(m): 10:28am On Feb 07, 2016
Papist:

Actually Christians prostrate, Latins, Byzantines, Copts, Syriacs etc. I have a feeling Muslims learnt about prostrations from Jews and Christians.
Actually, Jesus and Moses n other prphets prostrate, and those are who Muslims learn from. where do Christians prostrate? it's not true, they don't follow Jesus
Re: Muslims Copied Ablution From The Bible by truthman2012(m): 11:05am On Feb 07, 2016
mustymatic:

Actually, Jesus and Moses n other prphets prostrate, and those are who Muslims learn from. where do Christians prostrate? it's not true, they don't follow Jesus

Where did you read Jesus and Moses prostrated?

I have told you falling down is not prostration. Besides, falling down by Jesus or Moses was only once, no ablution and no facing of a particular direction.

If prostration is a requirement for prayer, the Bible would have made it clear. Nowhere are Christians required to prostrate when praying. Muslims are not in the position to teach us what is not a command in our Scripture.

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Re: Muslims Copied Ablution From The Bible by Nobody: 12:09pm On Feb 07, 2016
truthman2012:
And the Lord said unto him,
Now do ye Pharisees make
clean the outside of the cup
and the platter; but your
inward part is full of ravening
and wickedness (Luke 11:39).

Ablution: The muslims wash their various outer parts of the body when the inside is full of immoralities and wickedness. The washing doesn't remove the sinful nature in them: they can lie and commit all sorts immoralities.

I learnt that when on travel where there is no water, they can use sand to wash their private part after urinating. Do women too put sand in their private part? Look at islamic neatness!
but Christians stop ablution for tithe collection lucrative business
Re: Muslims Copied Ablution From The Bible by Nobody: 12:13pm On Feb 07, 2016
truthman2012:


Where did you read Jesus and Moses prostrated?

I have told you falling down is not prostration. Besides, falling down by Jesus or Moses was only once, no ablution and no facing of a particular direction.

If prostration is a requirement for prayer, the Bible would have made it clear. Nowhere are Christians required to prostrate when praying. Muslims are not in the position to teach us what is not a command in our Scripture.
no prostration but can break dance in church ko??in the name of been in phantom spirits or speak un audio able tunes grin
Re: Muslims Copied Ablution From The Bible by mustymatic(m): 4:58pm On Feb 07, 2016
truthman2012:


Where did you read Jesus and Moses prostrated?

I have told you falling down is not prostration. Besides, falling down by Jesus or Moses was only once, no ablution and no facing of a particular direction.

If prostration is a requirement for prayer, the Bible would have made it clear. Nowhere are Christians required to prostrate when praying. Muslims are not in the position to teach us what is not a command in our Scripture.
Well there's no mention of Trinity in the Bible... hell there's no mention of Christianity in the entire bible.. yet u still com up wt those. answer me how singing and dancing come about... waiting
Re: Muslims Copied Ablution From The Bible by truthman2012(m): 11:59am On Feb 08, 2016
mustymatic:

Well there's no mention of Trinity in the Bible... hell there's no mention of Christianity in the entire bible.. yet u still com up wt those. answer me how singing and dancing come about... waiting

Stop talking about something you have no knowledge of. This is the statement from Jesus:

Mathew 19:28
Go therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the FATHER, and of the SON, and of the HOLY GHOST:
That is the TRINITY for you.

Who told you Christianity is not in the Bible? You just could spew out ignorance.

Acts 11:26
Then Barnabas went to Tarsus to look for Saul, and when he found him, he brought him to Antioch. So for a whole year Barnabas and Saul met with the church and taught great numbers of people. The disciples were called CHRISTIANS first at Antioch.
Re: Muslims Copied Ablution From The Bible by unphilaz(m): 3:51pm On Feb 08, 2016
truthman2012:
No muslim here is capable of telling us whether or not women too rub sand in their private part where there is no water for ablution.

My next question is: Why do muslims leave out the armpit and anus, the most smelling parts of human body when doing ablution?

I have never tot of this but this is interesting.

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Re: Muslims Copied Ablution From The Bible by unphilaz(m): 3:54pm On Feb 08, 2016
truthman2012:


So washing the already neat outer part of the body leaving the armpit and anus out is the neatness in islam.

learning grin grin

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Re: Muslims Copied Ablution From The Bible by unphilaz(m): 3:58pm On Feb 08, 2016
hockeyoilers:
I thought the Bible says no man has seen God


please dont derail the op... go here to register present to be shown how Jesus is divine from the bible and will you convert if shown to you...
https://www.nairaland.com/2919041/why-muslim-should-accept-christ
Re: Muslims Copied Ablution From The Bible by unphilaz(m): 4:03pm On Feb 08, 2016
kaakulator4:
Lol kiriyo lunati.cs like truthfag and his ho.mo partner anus naki don't wash their f.ag.got yansh after bombing Nigerian drains cheesy and you see the k-legged IdIOt forming swag in front of all those skreps in his street cheesy grin

Truthfag is part of the numerous problems Nigeria is facing

Dirty boy! Oloorun grin grin cheesy

truthman2012:
No muslim here is capable of telling us whether or not women too rub sand in their private part where there is no water for ablution.

My next question is: Why do muslims leave out the armpit and anus, the most smelling parts of human body when doing ablution?
Re: Muslims Copied Ablution From The Bible by unphilaz(m): 4:06pm On Feb 08, 2016
mustymatic:

It's really a shame! that's what you can come up with? you didn't answer my question... how do Christians pray? how did they come up with dancing and singing ?And speaking of kaaba
This shall be a brief account on what the
Bible said about the Islamic Kaaba in Mecca.
Allah in the Quran telling about the Kaaba
says: [b]
96. The first House (of worship) appointed
for men was that at Bakka: Full of blessing
and of guidance for all kinds of beings:
(Holy Quran 2:96)
Kaaba in the Bible
In Psalm 84 it says:
4 Blessed are those who dwell in your house;
they are ever praising you.
Selah
5 Blessed are those whose strength is in you,
who have set their hearts on pilgrimage.
6 As they pass through the Valley of Baca ,
they make it a place of springs;
the autumn rains also cover it with pools.
7 They go from strength to strength,
till each appears before God in Zion.

So the word Valley of Baca is clearly
mentioned here, and mentioned as a noun
not translated to weeping as some other
Biblical versions translate. Meaning it’s a
real place not just a metaphorical one.
Zamzam Spring
Then it comes to something else:
they make it a place of springs;
the autumn rains also cover it with pools.
Mecca has the spring of Zamzam which is a
huge spring that has been producing water
continuously for more than 1400 years and
the pipelines transporting Zamzam water to
Al Madina (about 400 km north) which is
even an independent miracle in that blessed
place. Mecca is also a place where rains are
very heavy in the autumn. [/b]

Truthmman please open another thread for this mustymatic man ... please direct him there .... they want to derail this honorable thread (pbuT) and meet him to address his prayer styles biko nu...
Re: Muslims Copied Ablution From The Bible by Nobody: 4:12pm On Feb 08, 2016
unphilaz:


please dont derail the op... go here to register present to be shown how Jesus is divine from the bible and will you convert if shown to you...
https://www.nairaland.com/2919041/why-muslim-should-accept-christ

Quite the opposite for me, the more I learned of Jesus peace be upon him, the more I wanted to revert to Islam. In a way Jesus peace be upon him helped bring me away from Christianity to Islam 11 years ago. Made me realize Jesus peace be upon him is a creation not the Creator
Re: Muslims Copied Ablution From The Bible by truthman2012(m): 6:48pm On Feb 08, 2016
hockeyoilers:


Quite the opposite for me, the more I learned of Jesus peace be upon him, the more I wanted to revert to Islam. In a way Jesus peace be upon him helped bring me away from Christianity to Islam 11 years ago. Made me realize Jesus peace be upon him is a creation not the Creator

You were never a Christian. You were a Church goer who didn't experience salvation of Christ.

Mind you, Jesus is the One that gives peace, He doesn't need your ''peace be upon him'' Even your quran says He is one of those near to God. It is Muhammad that needs such prayer because he lacks peace.

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Re: Muslims Copied Ablution From The Bible by unphilaz(m): 10:47pm On Feb 08, 2016
hockeyoilers:


Quite the opposite for me, the more I learned of Jesus peace be upon him, the more I wanted to revert to Islam. In a way Jesus peace be upon him helped bring me away from Christianity to Islam 11 years ago. Made me realize Jesus peace be upon him is a creation not the Creator

Again, do you know any muslim that boasted if he can be shown how Jesus is from the bible not this 1+1+1 = 1, he would convert... if you do kindly direct to https://www.nairaland.com/2919041/why-muslim-should-accept-christ
Re: Muslims Copied Ablution From The Bible by Nobody: 10:53pm On Feb 08, 2016
Jesus pbuh is a man not God. Jesus peace be upon him urinated & defecated, ate food , and entered the world through a vagina. Had no idea when judgment day was , not a clue.


I refuse to worship anything God created.
Re: Muslims Copied Ablution From The Bible by habicab: 12:59am On Feb 09, 2016
truthman2012:
No muslim here is capable of telling us whether or not women too rub sand in their private part where there is no water for ablution.

My next question is: Why do muslims leave out the armpit and anus, the most smelling parts of human body when doing ablution?


unphilaz:


I have never tot of this but this is interesting.

You guys must be PORN STARS... I wonder why you are so particular about matters of the private part, especially that of a woman. What makes you soo interested in knowing how ladies purify themselves in the absence of water... You guys really need to know what to create threads about.
Re: Muslims Copied Ablution From The Bible by habicab: 3:17am On Feb 09, 2016
truthman2012:


Stop talking about something you have no knowledge of. This is the statement from Jesus:

Mathew 19:28
Go therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the FATHER, and of the SON, and of the HOLY GHOST:
That is the TRINITY for you.

Who told you Christianity is not in the Bible? You just could spew out ignorance.

Acts 11:26
Then Barnabas went to Tarsus to look for Saul, and when he found him, he brought him to Antioch. So for a whole year Barnabas and Saul met with the church and taught great numbers of people. The disciples were called CHRISTIANS first at Antioch.

Chairman sir, I think you should read the bible properly before stating false references.

Mathew 19:28 states...
"And Jesus said unto them, verily I say unto you, that ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel."

Except of course you are quoting from another type of bible. Also, try not to be mindless of the bolded. I'm sure you understand simple english, except if it sounds like parable to you as always.

And as regards your second answer, it still doesn't prove that christianity exist in the bible... the expression in the verse you quoted which says 'The disciples were called CHRISTIANS first at Antioch'.... the question is 'BY WHO'. Who called the disciples christians? was it Jesus or who If you really want to be truthful as your name implies, you would admit that the word CHRISTIAN is merely a nickname given to the disciples in Antioch. Jesus NEVER referred to the disciples as CHRISTIANS and neither did he call their religion CHRISTIANITY. In fact, Jesus has never heard both words throughout his lifetime. But he certainly stated his religion and if you are a follower of Jesus as you claim, you would follow the religion of Jesus.

John 5:30
"I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgement id just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me."


This verse alone indicates a lot of things at the same time. Anyone who says he seeks not his will but the will of Almighty God is simply called as a 'Muslim'.

Islam is an arabic word which means 'Peace acquired through total submission to the will of Almighty God'
Muslim is an arabic word which means 'someone who submits totally to the will of Almighty God'

Open your eyes, read intelligently and learn the truth from that which you are holding. The real truth is there with you, it's just that you have so much poison your mind to admit it. Embrace the truth truthman2012, otherwise, there's nothing truthful about you as you always claim.

I wish you all the best.

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Re: Muslims Copied Ablution From The Bible by plappville(f): 6:31am On Feb 09, 2016
truthman2012:
And the Lord said unto him,
Now do ye Pharisees make
clean the outside of the cup
and the platter; but your
inward part is full of ravening
and wickedness (Luke 11:39).

Ablution: The muslims wash their various outer parts of the body when the inside is full of immoralities and wickedness. The washing doesn't remove the sinful nature in them: they can lie and commit all sorts immoralities.

I learnt that when on travel where there is no water, they can use sand to wash their private part after urinating. Do women too put sand in their private part? Look at islamic neatness!

You reveal new things each passing day. Na waoh for islam oo....washing under with sand? shocked are u sure of this?
Re: Muslims Copied Ablution From The Bible by plappville(f): 6:33am On Feb 09, 2016
Another dumb topic.

Oya, start going up and down begging people to come and comment here; posting the link all over NL.

What makes it dumb? Didnt you see this?


And the Lord said unto him,
Now do ye Pharisees make
clean the outside of the cup
and the platter; but your
inward part is full of ravening
and wickedness (Luke 11:39).

Ablution: The muslims wash their various outer parts of the body when the inside is full of immoralities and wickedness. The washing doesn't remove the sinful nature in them: they can lie and commit all sorts immoralities

Dont Tell me is not true. angry
Re: Muslims Copied Ablution From The Bible by plappville(f): 6:34am On Feb 09, 2016
truthman2012:


Who is begging muslims to comment? I love a situation where they have nothing to say so that some innocent muslims will see islam's true nature and run for their dear lives.

Exactly! !

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Re: Muslims Copied Ablution From The Bible by Annunaki(m): 11:10am On Feb 09, 2016
truthman2012:
And the Lord said unto him,
Now do ye Pharisees make
clean the outside of the cup
and the platter; but your
inward part is full of ravening
and wickedness (Luke 11:39).

Ablution: The muslims wash their various outer parts of the body when the inside is full of immoralities and wickedness. The washing doesn't remove the sinful nature in them: they can lie and commit all sorts immoralities.

I learnt that when on travel where there is no water, they can use sand to wash their private part after urinating. Do women too put sand in their private part? Look at islamic neatness!

Islam is just so shallow and carnal, it betrays the illiteracy of it's founder.

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Re: Muslims Copied Ablution From The Bible by Jesuismoi: 4:12pm On Feb 09, 2016
Rilwayne001:
Hi foolish tout, i am not a terrorist..

Okay bye..



And you dont get ban for this? wink
Re: Muslims Copied Ablution From The Bible by Nobody: 4:23pm On Feb 09, 2016
Jesuismoi:


And you dont get ban for this? wink

Re: Muslims Copied Ablution From The Bible by mustymatic(m): 12:06am On Feb 10, 2016
truthman2012:


Stop talking about something you have no knowledge of. This is the statement from Jesus:

Mathew 19:28
Go therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the FATHER, and of the SON, and of the HOLY GHOST:
That is the TRINITY for you.

Who told you Christianity is not in the Bible? You just could spew out ignorance.

Acts 11:26
Then Barnabas went to Tarsus to look for Saul, and when he found him, he brought him to Antioch. So for a whole year Barnabas and Saul met with the church and taught great numbers of people. The disciples were called CHRISTIANS first at Antioch.
[b]
The three monotheistic religions – Judaism, Christianity, and Islam – all purport to share one fundamental concept: belief in God as the Supreme Being, the Creator nd Sustainer of the Universe. Known as “tawhid” in Islam, this concept of the Oneness of God was stressed by Moses in a Biblical passage known as the “Shema”, or the Jewish creed of faith:
“Hear, O Israel: The Lord our
God is one Lord.” (Deuteronomy 6:4)
It was repeated word-for-word approximately
1500 years later by Jesus, when he said:
“...The first of all the
commandments is, Hear, O
Israel; the Lord our God is
one Lord.” (Mark 12:29)
Muhammad came along approximately 600 years later, bringing the same message again:
“And your God is One
God: there is no God but
He...” (Quran 2:163)
Christianity has digressed from the concept of the Oneness of God, however, into a vague and mysterious doctrine that was formulated during the fourth century. This doctrine, which continues to be a source of controversy both within and outside the Christian religion, is known as the Doctrine of the Trinity. Simply put, the Christian doctrine of the Trinity states that God is the union of three divine persons – the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit – in one divine being.
If that concept, put in basic terms, sounds confusing, the flowery language in the actual text of the doctrine lends even more mystery to the matter. Let’s put this together in a different form: one person, God the Father, plus one person, God the Son, plus one person, God the Holy Ghost, equals one person, God the What? Is this English or is this gibberish?
It is said that Athanasius, the bishop who formulated this doctrine, confessed that the more he wrote on the matter, the less capable he was of clearly expressing his thoughts regarding it.
How did such a confusing doctrine get its start? In Matthew 28:19, we find Jesus telling his disciples to go out and preach to all nations. While this “Great Commission” does make mention of the three persons who later become components of the Trinity, the phrase “...baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost” is quite clearly an addition to Biblical text – that is, not the actual words of Jesus –as can be seen by two factors:
1) baptism in the early Church, as discussed by Paul in his letters, was done only in the name of Jesus; and
2) the “Great Commission” was found in the first gospel written, that of Mark, bears no mention of Father, Son and/or Holy Ghost –see Mark 16:15.
The only other reference in the Bible to a
Trinity can be found in the Epistle of 1 John 5:7.
Biblical scholars of today, hwever, have admitted
that the phrase:
“...there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one” …is definitely a “later addition” to Biblical text, nd it is not found in any of today’s versions of the Bible. It can, therefore, be seen that the concept of a Trinity of divine beings was not an idea put forth by Jesus or any other prophet of God. This doctrine, now subscribed to by Christians all over the world, is entirely man-made in origin....and secondly who calm them Christians? God or Jesus? has Jesus ever called anyone with that name? has he ever had of the name?
[/b]
Re: Muslims Copied Ablution From The Bible by mustymatic(m): 12:45am On Feb 10, 2016
The majority of Christians, when asked to explain this fundamental doctrine of their faith, can offer nothing more than “I believe it because I was told to do so.” It is explained away as “mystery” – yet the Bible says in 1 Corinthians 14:33 that:
“... God is not the author of
confusion ...”
The Unitarian denomination of Christianity has kept alive the teachings of Arius in saying that God is one; they do not believe in the Trinity. As a result, mainstream Christians abhor them, and the National Council of Churches has refused their admittance. In Unitarianism, the hope is
kept alive that Christians will someday return to the
preachings of Jesus:
“... Thou shalt worship the
Lord thy God, and Him only
shalt thou serve.” (Luke 4:cool
Re: Muslims Copied Ablution From The Bible by Rilwayne001: 11:45am On Feb 10, 2016
Jesuismoi:


And you dont get ban for this? wink

Because labelling a fellow nlder "terrorist" is allowed right?
Re: Muslims Copied Ablution From The Bible by Nobody: 3:14pm On Feb 10, 2016
Jesuismoi:


And you dont get ban for this? wink

Perhaps if you stopped preaching christianist hate speech you would get banned , no?

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