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Re: My Advice To All Nigerian Developers by geniusng(m): 2:31pm On Jun 02, 2015
It is really pathetic, this is not a small matter. Try make a post on Nairaland that I can design a Blogger blog + Custom Domain + Training = N10,000.

Come and see attach from right, left and centre, some say why should you design Blogger blog for N10k, Some post a reply on the same post I started that they can design it for N3,000. You can imagine that domain is 2k and the person is satisfied with 1k
Re: My Advice To All Nigerian Developers by Raypawer(m): 2:48pm On Jun 02, 2015
thanks
Re: My Advice To All Nigerian Developers by 212blaze(m): 2:49pm On Jun 02, 2015
CreativeWeb:
Nice piece. This boils down to forming a small formidable team that will include web developers, web ui/ux designers and graphics designers. However, if forming a team is difficult, then outsourcing the area you are not strong in to others, makes sense.


In order to create another source of income, I started what you could call the Nigeria's leading bulk sms portal: www.smsnaija247.com

your domain naime is awfully similar to www.smslive247.com tho
Re: My Advice To All Nigerian Developers by Wallie(m): 3:19pm On Jun 02, 2015
winexviv:

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I charge clients high for projects now because I do the needful. I will encourage us developers to improve on our strengths, extend jobs for other experts to do their part to get a perfect product in time. With this, you can confidently bill clients several millions for projects and they will be glad to pay.
...

How much do you charge per hour? Can you also share your portfolio?
Re: My Advice To All Nigerian Developers by highlevel8: 3:27pm On Jun 02, 2015
NumberOne2:
It is lack of standardization. In more developed countries, BLUE COLAR workers are standardized.
Example, an electrician or mechanic has to write certain exams or get certain certifications before they can function.
Here, an mechanic or electrician follows his boss around for 3 months and is ready to go and RUINS peoples cars.

Same applies to Web Design. Some guy takes a 2 hour lecture on web design and is good to go. Now he wants to designing sites for 5k? How much is hosting? I believe we will get there, its just a matter of time (Nigerians can be very impatient so that doesnt help). There are a lot of good developers in Nigeria.

Also our general crave for foreign products mentality. Its poverty that forces some to use Nigerian Devs. If a client has the money, he will rather do his app in India or UK than use a Nigerian. Not because Nigerian developers are bad (its a mentality). It is the same reason why most Nigerians prefer Stallion Rice (imported) to Ebony (ofada). Here local content is seen as dead.

Am sorry but i totally disagree. 1st thing in any open market anybody can sell for any price he/she feels like. Why should I buy and pay more for the same thing. If the guy can design and host a site for 5k and deliver what someone billed me for 100k why on earth should i pay a 100. (and note this is coming from an IT Consultant with "lots" of Web Development experience). The summary is what is the value of your 100k? What business solution are you providing?

"Also our general crave for foreign products mentality" - this is the other thing i disagree with. I can give you several examples of locally made items that Nigerian buy and even export. eg Beads, Nigerian Music, Nollywood etc If its good and well branded people will buy. I for one prefer the Ofada rice any day, but i dont know where i can get a branded bag.

Back to software; the part i agree with you is that we have good developers, but 80% need to be well managed in IT processes and procedures to get the best out of them. The other part I agree with is that Nigeria will get there. Like everything (Good or Bad) we get involved in we end up been very good at.

My final, point.....everybody has been mentioning teams and all i have been hearing is UI/UX, Graphic, Front-End, backend etc Who is actually going to sell you Idea, product etc to the end customer.
Very few Developers are sales people. That why you need us - Product / Business Development guys (IT Consultants: from System Requirement to Sales).

Cheers!

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Re: My Advice To All Nigerian Developers by Nobody: 3:27pm On Jun 02, 2015
Is this referring to free-lance web-developers alone?
Re: My Advice To All Nigerian Developers by flexiwinds: 3:30pm On Jun 02, 2015
I am also a developer, what you have just said is very true. Http://www.flexicron.com. My sms portal, http://www.smsgrab.com
Re: My Advice To All Nigerian Developers by mruwaifo(m): 3:42pm On Jun 02, 2015
Wise words . But how to go another this is the challenge . Most of us developers are isolated from one another so it's hard to for strong teams or grow a vibrant community .

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Re: My Advice To All Nigerian Developers by Chromedome(m): 4:00pm On Jun 02, 2015
Howmon:


Hello! Can I see your portfolio? Thanks

Hello, if you need a competent web developer, I offer premium and affordable service. This is my email otuandy6.ao@gmail.com or you could drop yours and I will send you my portfolio. Thanks.
Re: My Advice To All Nigerian Developers by Leonidas1: 4:50pm On Jun 02, 2015
Cool
Re: My Advice To All Nigerian Developers by Nobody: 5:13pm On Jun 02, 2015
Howmon:


Hello! Can I see your portfolio? Thanks

Sir can we discuss?
PIN:56963167
bluenaija2@gmail.com
Re: My Advice To All Nigerian Developers by tobymichael(m): 5:21pm On Jun 02, 2015
winexviv:
I have been a developer since 2008 and have met so many clients for different reasons. Most of the projects they outsource to local developers either get abandoned in the process or don't get used in the long run. They believe in outsourcing to foreign developers for very serious projects

My Indian friend who is among the team that built Finacle (software used in most banks in Nigeria) keeps telling me that Nigerians are lazy, but I know he is wrong in that. We are just too busy with many things and achieve very little.

In the course 7 years of active development I have left to do front end, back end and graphics design on my own, which makes me to do all projects alone. The country made it so but I know it is very wrong. Of late I discovered that my strength is in UX and UI design and not backend. My designs are always mind blowing.

Because of lack of specialisation, clients tends to price us low. Since many others claims to do all same things even cheaper.

If we as developers discovers our strength and perfects on it, then share projects with other talents, I believe that clients will be glad to pay us high knowing that his/her projects are handled by different experts and will deliver in due time with full project documentation.

I also noticed that only very few developers follow the due process in Web development. Product research -» user experience research -» wireframes -» User Interface design-» coding backend-» optimisation and launching. We are fund of jumping process and doing things anyhow.

I charge clients high for projects now because I do the needful. I will encourage us developers to improve on our strengths, extend jobs for other experts to do their part to get a perfect product in time. With this, you can confidently bill clients several millions for projects and they will be glad to pay.

Always improve continuously. It pays. And also endeavour to save more money, it helps your bargaining power when you know you are not near broke.

Advice taken, but i wouldn't mind if we can connect
here is my pin 55D9921B
Re: My Advice To All Nigerian Developers by bosunjohns(m): 5:46pm On Jun 02, 2015
winexviv:
I have been a developer since 2008 and have met so many clients for different reasons. Most of the projects they outsource to local developers either get abandoned in the process or don't get used in the long run. They believe in outsourcing to foreign developers for very serious projects

My Indian friend who is among the team that built Finacle (software used in most banks in Nigeria) keeps telling me that Nigerians are lazy, but I know he is wrong in that. We are just too busy with many things and achieve very little.

In the course 7 years of active development I have left to do front end, back end and graphics design on my own, which makes me to do all projects alone. The country made it so but I know it is very wrong. Of late I discovered that my strength is in UX and UI design and not backend. My designs are always mind blowing.

Because of lack of specialisation, clients tends to price us low. Since many others claims to do all same things even cheaper.

If we as developers discovers our strength and perfects on it, then share projects with other talents, I believe that clients will be glad to pay us high knowing that his/her projects are handled by different experts and will deliver in due time with full project documentation.

I also noticed that only very few developers follow the due process in Web development. Product research -» user experience research -» wireframes -» User Interface design-» coding backend-» optimisation and launching. We are fund of jumping process and doing things anyhow.

I charge clients high for projects now because I do the needful. I will encourage us developers to improve on our strengths, extend jobs for other experts to do their part to get a perfect product in time. With this, you can confidently bill clients several millions for projects and they will be glad to pay.

Always improve continuously. It pays. And also endeavour to save more money, it helps your bargaining power when you know you are not near broke.
Re: My Advice To All Nigerian Developers by directonpc(m): 6:09pm On Jun 02, 2015
dhardline:
Please how much can one be billed for a four page website.very simple and nothing complex but will include an interswitch/quickteller checkout? Thanks
a site that handles sensitive stuffs like payment and u call it just simple 4 pages
Re: My Advice To All Nigerian Developers by CreativeWeb(m): 6:30pm On Jun 02, 2015
212blaze:

your domain naime is awfully similar to www.smslive247.com tho
Really?
So 'naija' and 'live' have become similar and sound the same?
smsNAIJA247 smsLIVE247
Re: My Advice To All Nigerian Developers by CreativeWeb(m): 6:34pm On Jun 02, 2015
pystar:


Are you trying to piggy bank on the well known bulk SMS portal known as smslive247.com ?

Pronounce smsNAIJA247 and smsLIVE247 and ask yourself if they sound similar. Or since smslive247 has 247 in their name, nobody should use 247 in their name again?
Re: My Advice To All Nigerian Developers by dhardline(m): 6:35pm On Jun 02, 2015
directonpc:
a site that handles sensitive stuffs like payment and u call it just simple 4 pages

What can i say?is it complex 4 pages?
Re: My Advice To All Nigerian Developers by Lastdon02(m): 7:18pm On Jun 02, 2015
dhardline:
Please how much can one be billed for a four page website.very simple and nothing complex but will include an interswitch/quickteller checkout? Thanks

30 to 50k
Re: My Advice To All Nigerian Developers by 212blaze(m): 7:40pm On Jun 02, 2015
CreativeWeb:


Really?

So 'naija' and 'live' have become similar and sound the same?

smsNAIJA247
smsLIVE247

your site design is really nice tho. I like that.
Re: My Advice To All Nigerian Developers by Agroinfotech: 8:45pm On Jun 02, 2015
A Web Designer is different from a Web developer. The designer is concerned with UI, UX and can grow to become a developer over time. A developer should have the knowledge of each of both frontend and backend stuffs if not all.
-11years of building websites, webapps, webportals and morewebs**.
2004 (Frontpage + Corel photopaint), 2007 (Dreamweaver + Fireworks), 2010-date (Fireworks + Open Source et al)

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