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V6 Freelander And Head Gasket by olabukola: 7:58pm On Jun 13, 2015
I own a V6 freelander, the head gasket just snapped today. Please I need a good mechanic that can work on it for me. Have been using the car since 2012 though not always as I not always around in Nigeria but all the time I put it on the motor way for a long distance it never disappoints.

I have googled for solution on the net and found out that at 70k miles, the gasket is likely to snap for K series engines of freelander due to the type of gasket fitted on them. But now their is an improved version of gasket(Multi Layer Gasket) which last longer. The problem now is where to buy it in Nigeria and how original it will be.

If anybody know any other car engine that can fit the freelander I might consider to change the engine as far as the structural work is not too much.

Another is issue is my ac, I think its leaking somewhere buy all the ac guys visited could not detect where the leak is and when filled with gas it works for 2 days and the gas is gone. Any help on who can fix it for me will be appreciated.
Re: V6 Freelander And Head Gasket by Nobody: 10:27pm On Jun 13, 2015
The Rover K-series engines are the worst units to come from British Leyland.

It's not just the head gasket that's the issue, the engine cylinder block and head are poorly cast. Then add poorly supported steel liners in the open deck aluminium block, it gets worse.

A blown cylinder head gasket isn't the only problem here, failure more often than not means a damaged block and head, burnt-out valves, damaged steel liners. Cracks in the head and block are not uncommon. I have worked on more of the 1.4/1.6/1.8 Rover K-series, 2.5 KV6 than I care to remember.

Improved cylinder head gasket? A waste of time and finances. The only thing a Rover K-series motor is good for is either as a door-stop, or boat anchor.

It is possible to install a different engine into your Freelander, with a matching transmission. But...in view of the average Nigerian mechanic's penchant for getting even a simple 4 cylinder SOHC 8V timing belt replacement wrong, I would not advise anyone to go down the engine swap route. Once you get involved in this, this will be just the beginning of your problems. Changed completion dates, changed prices, more items needed than originally thought etc. Then add the risk of a bust axle shaft at motorway speeds, or an electrical fire from poor wiring.

There have been a couple of "conversions" shown here, no proof of how they run, despite the owners promising to update their threads. The wiring in their engine bays was about the worst I've ever seen, wires snaking across hot exhaust manifolds, fuel lines snaking everywhere etc. I have no idea what hidden areas are like, but one can only guess.

My advice? Cut your losses, and sell the car for whatever anyone is willing to pay for it in it's present state. Your life is worth more than a poorly converted hulk of steel.

Good luck!

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Re: V6 Freelander And Head Gasket by LeJeun3: 11:43pm On Jun 13, 2015
Siena:
The Rover K-series engines are the worst units to come from British Leyland.

It's not just the head gasket that's the issue, the engine cylinder block and head are poorly cast. Then add poorly supported steel liners in the open deck aluminium block, it gets worse.

A blown cylinder head gasket isn't the only problem here, failure more often than not means a damaged block and head, burnt-out valves, damaged steel liners. Cracks in the head and block are not uncommon. I have worked on more of the 1.4/1.6/1.8 Rover K-series, 2.5 KV6 than I care to remember.

Improved cylinder head gasket? A waste of time and finances. The only thing a Rover K-series motor is good for is either as a door-stop, or boat anchor.

It is possible to install a different engine into your Freelander, with a matching transmission. But...in view of the average Nigerian mechanic's penchant for getting even a simple 4 cylinder SOHC 8V timing belt replacement wrong, I would not advise anyone to go down the engine swap route. Once you get involved in this, this will be just the beginning of your problems. Changed completion dates, changed prices, more items needed than originally thought etc. Then add the risk of a bust axle shaft at motorway speeds, or an electrical fire from poor wiring.

There have been a couple of "conversions" shown here, no proof of how they run, despite the owners promising to update their threads. The wiring in their engine bays was about the worst I've ever seen, wires snaking across hot exhaust manifolds, fuel lines snaking everywhere etc. I have no idea what hidden areas are like, but one can only guess.

My advice? Cut your losses, and sell the car for whatever anyone is willing to pay for it in it's present state. Your life is worth more than a poorly converted hulk of steel.

Good luck!



Boss, you spoke very well and honestly! The K-series engines are really a huge mistake for the landrover freelancer. A new engine could buy him some more time.....





Re: V6 Freelander And Head Gasket by Nobody: 1:15am On Jun 14, 2015
LeJeun3:
Boss, you spoke very well and honestly! The K-series engines are really a huge mistake for the landrover freelancer. A new engine could buy him some more time.....

If the correct Rover 1.8 Twin Cam 16V can be located, and it's not already dead, that could be an option. The problem is good lumps are becoming increasingly difficult to find.

Best if a replacement comes from a car that can be started, if that's the route the thread starter opts for. At least this way, the integrity of the engine can be established.

No way to tell how long it'll last though.
Re: V6 Freelander And Head Gasket by LeJeun3: 2:46pm On Jun 14, 2015
Siena:

If the correct Rover 1.8 Twin Cam 16V can be located, and it's not already dead, that could be an option. The problem is good lumps are becoming increasingly difficult to find.
Best if a replacement comes from a car that can be started, if that's the route the thread starter opts for. At least this way, the integrity of the engine can be established.
No way to tell how long it'll last though.


Getting another engine is possible except off course we won't be able to start it on another car. Guess I would see how badly it is and advice accordingly........

Siena am a big fan!!
Re: V6 Freelander And Head Gasket by ASL33: 3:38pm On Jun 14, 2015
Am having the same problem with my v6 freelancer, I love that car and don't want to sell it, sometimes I find oil inside the water container for the radiator. Lejeun, where are you based? Lagos? Can you help?. Drop ur email for me to contact you.
Re: V6 Freelander And Head Gasket by Nobody: 4:07pm On Jun 14, 2015
ASL33:
Am having the same problem with my v6 freelancer, I love that car and don't want to sell it, sometimes I find oil inside the water container for the radiator. Lejeun, where are you based? Lagos? Can you help?. Drop ur email for me to contact you.

Blown head gasket, and / or cracked cylinder block, heads or cracked cylinder liners. The Rover K-series gremlin strikes again.

My advice? Get rid of it while it still runs and drives. Of course, you'll have to inform any prospective buyers of the issues.
Re: V6 Freelander And Head Gasket by ASL33: 4:29pm On Jun 14, 2015
Siena:


Blown head gasket, and / or cracked cylinder block, heads or cracked cylinder liners. The Rover K-series gremlin strikes again.

My advice? Get rid of it while it still runs and drives. Of course, you'll have to inform any prospective buyers of the issues.
honestly that is my first car and I want to keep it for my kids to play with when they are of age. If I can't repair it I will go for engine swap as the Op is planning to do.

I need lajaun3 to come and access it first.
Re: V6 Freelander And Head Gasket by ChrisChino(m): 6:24pm On Jun 14, 2015
it will be wrong if i dont tell my experience..
OP, that engine is gone
u can fit a toyota siena engine or camry or carina e
but the job has to be done by someone who has done this type of conversion b4
i have the same issue and i converted mine to toyota carina E engine
actually as siena said, it is not 100% safe, so i have to serious warn the guy about the drive shaft reconstruction.
he did a good job because its been over a year now with about 30,000km millage additional since the conversion.
the whole job cost about#180 to #200k , but may vary depending on the type of engine u decided to fit.
so its ur choice...
Goodluck.
Re: V6 Freelander And Head Gasket by ChrisChino(m): 6:29pm On Jun 14, 2015
Also, a friend who bought a k-v6 replacement engine from ladipo just fixed it and the engine "knocked" within 3 months. i pity the guy seriously... he is soo frustrated right now after spending soo much.

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Re: V6 Freelander And Head Gasket by ASL33: 1:53pm On Jun 15, 2015
ChrisChino:
Also, a friend who bought a k-v6 replacement engine from ladipo just fixed it and the engine "knocked" within 3 months. i pity the guy seriously... he is soo frustrated right now after spending soo much.
Thanks for your advice, who did the engine change for you and how many liter engine is the carina? How is the performance. Please let me know.
Re: V6 Freelander And Head Gasket by olabukola: 3:33pm On Jun 15, 2015
ASL33:
Thanks for your advice, who did the engine change for you and how many liter engine is the carina? How is the performance. Please let me know.
I am interested in this as well, Chrischino please respond.
Re: V6 Freelander And Head Gasket by ChrisChino(m): 6:38pm On Jun 15, 2015
i think is a 2.0L engine..im not a specialist.
the performance is good. fuel consumption on a full tank is average. i get about 350 to 400 km on full tank.
but i stay in KD and thats where it was done
Re: V6 Freelander And Head Gasket by olabukola: 7:54pm On Jun 15, 2015
ChrisChino:
i think is a 2.0L engine..im not a specialist.
the performance is good. fuel consumption on a full tank is average. i get about 350 to 400 km on full tank.
but i stay in KD and thats where it was done
Ok thanks for the info.
Re: V6 Freelander And Head Gasket by romityl: 3:26pm On Jun 16, 2015
I use a freelander an am rocking my own verywell and it over 3yrs I changed de engin to a carina engin n I swr de car has neva slpt in the mechanic workshop even for a day .romityl@yahoo.com is my email. Address.
Re: V6 Freelander And Head Gasket by Readonee35L(m): 4:40pm On Jun 16, 2015
all of u saying u own one with camry engine
.snap ur engine bay and i'd love a video of it running
Re: V6 Freelander And Head Gasket by Nobody: 5:18pm On Jun 16, 2015
Readonee35L:
all of u saying u own one with camry engine
.snap ur engine bay and i'd love a video of it running

My point exactly. There have been posters professing to having Toyota Camry engines swapped into their series 1 Freelanders, but not a single credible video of a running car, despite lots of readers requesting them.

One guy from 2012 claimed he would take a video, but his driver had the Freelander at the car wash. I reckon he's still there.

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Re: V6 Freelander And Head Gasket by Nobody: 5:23pm On Jun 16, 2015
romityl:
I use a freelander an am rocking my own verywell and it over 3yrs I changed de engin to a carina engin n I swr de car has neva slpt in the mechanic workshop even for a day .romityl@yahoo.com is my email. Address.

C'mon bro! Even a 2007 Camry would have spent time in a shop, and this is a standard, unmolested car.

Rewind back 1995 Carina, with it's engine and possibly transmission ripped out, and slapped into a Freelander, and it WILL have issues, Carina issues, Freelander issues and of course, issues stemming from the alien install.
Re: V6 Freelander And Head Gasket by Readonee35L(m): 8:41pm On Jun 16, 2015
Siena:


My point exactly. There have been posters professing to having Toyota Camry engines swapped into their series 1 Freelanders, but not a single credible video of a running car, despite lots of readers requesting them.

One guy from 2012 claimed he would take a video, but his driver had the Freelander at the car wash. I reckon he's still there.
lol..am aware of the guy that opened that thread in 2012 in fact i still follow the thread,

All this guys claim to have one, am happy they do, but at least give us detailed infos pictures and videos... then they ignore the thread, no one is hear to criticize you, but we just want to know and see how well it is
Re: V6 Freelander And Head Gasket by diportivo: 11:37pm On Jun 16, 2015
a friend has been using dis for 2 yrs plus

driven it once....just to av a feel of it

problems had........severe overheating;solved wen a diff mech interchanged the radiator hoses

recurring problems,fan fuse getting burnt..duno if he has fixed it

bottomline,it seems to work;but den only frequent users can say how the swap is faring

Re: V6 Freelander And Head Gasket by olabukola: 12:59pm On Jun 20, 2015
The head gasket was changed yesterday, from the picture they sent me, they used that of Kia, the changed one other thing they called coolant but I think that is not the name. From the description its where the oil and the water meet at the engine or something like that.

I don't trust the Kia gasket, so I found some one selling the K series MLG for V6 engine in Norwich. I will order for one and take it to Nigeria. The mechanic said I should change my injector cos its weak thus making the car to gulp more petrol. I will try and buy one here as well. Hope the kia gasket will be useful till next month I will be in Nigeria.
Re: V6 Freelander And Head Gasket by Nobody: 1:02pm On Jun 20, 2015
olabukola:
The head gasket was changed yesterday, from the picture they sent me, they used that of Kia, the changed one other thing they called coolant but I think that is not the name. From the description its where the oil and the water meet at the engine or something like that.

I don't trust the Kia gasket, so I found some one selling the K series MLG for V6 engine in Norwich. I will order for one and take it to Nigeria. The mechanic said I should change my injector cos its weak thus making the car to gulp more petrol. I will try and buy one here as well. Hope the kia gasket will be useful till next month I will be in Nigeria.

Good luck bud.
Re: V6 Freelander And Head Gasket by olabukola: 1:02pm On Jun 20, 2015
Pictures of what they changed

Re: V6 Freelander And Head Gasket by olabukola: 1:05pm On Jun 20, 2015
Siena:


Good luck bud.
Siena, please what is the name of the second thing in the picture?
Re: V6 Freelander And Head Gasket by Nobody: 1:49pm On Jun 20, 2015
olabukola:
Siena, please what is the name of the second thing in the picture?

Oil cooler.
Re: V6 Freelander And Head Gasket by olabukola: 2:18pm On Jun 20, 2015
Siena:


Oil cooler.
ok they called it coolant. Thanks.
Hope its fine spent about 45k(about £145).
Re: V6 Freelander And Head Gasket by airlord2020: 10:59am On Jun 21, 2015
Re: V6 Freelander And Head Gasket by LeJeun3: 10:59am On Jun 21, 2015
olabukola:
ok they called it coolant. Thanks.
Hope its fine spent about 45k(about £145).



Hope the car is fine?? Wonder why they used a Kia gasket?? All the best....

The oil cooler changed cools the gear oil.



Re: V6 Freelander And Head Gasket by LeJeun3: 11:02am On Jun 21, 2015
airlord2020:
Oga Siena how good is landrover LR2 ? Is the engine also unreliable
Its more reliable........my opinion
Re: V6 Freelander And Head Gasket by Nobody: 11:08am On Jun 21, 2015
LeJeun3:
Wonder why they used a Kia gasket?? All the best....

Because the Kia Sedona / Carnival 2.5 V6 24V IS the same nasty Rover KV6 used in the Freelander and Rover 75.

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Re: V6 Freelander And Head Gasket by LeJeun3: 11:16am On Jun 21, 2015
Siena:


Because the Kia Sedona / Carnival 2.5 V6 24V IS the same nasty Rover KV6 used in the Freelander and Rover 75.





Oh really!? I learnt something new today.
Guess its also cheaper, hv always changed with the same freelander gasket.


Re: V6 Freelander And Head Gasket by olabukola: 5:45pm On Jun 21, 2015
LeJeun3:



Hope the car is fine?? Wonder why they used a Kia gasket?? All the best....

The oil cooler changed cools the gear oil.



The report I got today is that the radiator water is still changing colour. Maybe the oil in the pipe already. Before I changed the gasket the water use to be thick maybe it will get to that they ae still observing it till tomorrow.

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