bobestman:
You can't teach anything without power/signs -Act 1:8 and being commissioned. It ended with the disciples who were all killed and another gospel fabricated by Rome. You are wasting your time with Jw. They know nothing. Isaiah 2 is at endtime. The signs to fulfil it is clearly written. It for isreal after their restoration - isaiah 11:11-13. After restoration, then the Temple. Zaph 3:9 is about the Branch/Priest who will gather, judge and rule Isreal. The stone is that object held by priest to know God's will concerning any issue. Come 4 lectures

This is what is written in the Bible book of Act 1:8

"But you will receive power when the holy spirit comes upon you, and you will be witnesses of me in Jerusalem, in all Ju·deʹa and Sa·marʹi·a, and to the most distant part of the earth.”

Power means Energy to do work.
So what work are the disciples of Christ given to do?

"Go, therefore, and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded you. And look! I am with you all the days until the conclusion of the system of things" Matthew 28:19-20

Ọmọ JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are doing this work globally and the whole world could feel their movement despite the fact that they don't apply force or weapons! Zechariah 4:6

@MaxinDHouse they didn't only recieve power but also the ability to do the extraodinary/signs and wonders. So if you claim to have the power, where is the signs? Any one can rise and begin to teach anyone who cares like your ignorant Jw's but do they have the personal encounter to do it like Isaiah, Ezekiel or even Paul? They are just running around doing what their Gb said claiming they are fulfilling scriptures. The true sheep are those who hear and recieve direction from God not their Gb. The true sons are those who are led by the spirit of God not their Gb. You are doing the biddings of your Gb not God's. Many who also do the work, how many of them carry weapons? See you are just decieved and brainwashed. Many of the things you argue about are clearly written that even kids can read and correct you. Your delusion has blinded you so much that you can't understand simple things. If you pay attention to the things i teach you, you would have seen that Jw's are only decieving you.

bobestman:
@MaxinDHouse they didn't only recieve power but also the ability to do the extraodinary/signs and wonders. So if you claim to have the power, where is the signs? Any one can rise and begin to teach anyone who cares like your ignorant Jw's but do they have the personal encounter to do it like Isaiah, Ezekiel or even Paul? They are just running around doing what their Gb said claiming they are fulfilling scriptures. The true sheep are those who hear and recieve direction from God not their Gb. The true sons are those who are led by the spirit of God not their Gb. You are doing the biddings of your Gb not God's. Many who also do the work, how many of them carry weapons? See you are just decieved and brainwashed. Many of the things you argue about are clearly written that even kids can read and correct you. Your delusion has blinded you so much that you can't understand simple things. If you pay attention to the things i teach you, you would have seen that Jw's are only decieving you.

According to God's word the supernatural gifts are for a purpose and that has been met so if you're interested in supernatural gifts go and visit all other religions and you will see them perform wonders but as for pure worship there is time for everything {Ecclesiastes 3:1} this is not the time for that so it has ceased {1Corinthians 13:8-10} so anyone anticipating supernatural gifts before believing what God promised is fooling himself today! Matthew 16:4

MaxInDHouse:


According to God's word the supernatural gifts are for a purpose and that has been met so if you're interested in supernatural gifts go and visit all other religions and you will see them perform wonders but as for pure worship there is time for everything {Ecclesiastes 3:1} this is not the time for that so it has ceased {1Corinthians 13:8-10} so anyone anticipating supernatural gifts before believing what God promised is fooling himself today! Matthew 16:4

Am not interested in any of your religions for they are all in error. I expose their error. The point here is that you accept whatever in the bible that is in line with your jw doctrines while you reject others. 1 cor 13 is saying that spiritual gift without love is nothing. It doesn't mean spiritual gift is nothing. Matt 16, he knows they were testing. These ppl desire to see signs. This is different from spiritual gifts. Stop quoting bible without understanding. You can only decieve the gullible

bobestman:
Am not interested in any of your religions

Yet you're here arguing, shey?

Ọmọ you need to see a psychiatrist fast!

MaxInDHouse:


Yet you're here arguing, shey?

Ọmọ you need to see a psychiatrist fast!

Sharp sharp

Aemmyjah:

Sharp sharp

Some people don't know the meaning of that word "PSYCHOPATH"
How can a sane person say he is not interested in any religion but he's always here arguing in the religious section of a forum that has lots of sections?

MaxInDHouse:


Yet you're here arguing, shey?

Ọmọ you need to see a psychiatrist fast!

Come for lectures, i will help you understand. Your Jw knows nothing. Your bible is the history of the ancient ppl who you are told to learn from - Isaiah 44:7. I am of the root of the ancient ones. Come and learn. You are brainwashed and decieved

bobestman:
Come for lectures, i will help you understand. Your Jw knows nothing. Your bible is the history of the ancient ppl who you are told to learn from - Isaiah 44:7. I am of the root of the ancient ones. Come and learn. You are brainwashed and decieved

Insanity at it's peak!

Come and learn about the true religion from someone who isn't with any religion!

MaxInDHouse:


Insanity at it's peak!

Come and learn about the true religion from someone who isn't with any religion!

Your ignorance stinks to the high heaven and it is cos of your brainwash. God gave no religion. The messiah came at a time the ppl have fallen into worship of false gods. He came to reveal the true God Almighty and show ppl how to get eternal life. You are to follow what he taught which you can practice anywhere even at your home. But ppl created religion through his teachings. He said the temple of God is within you. Your books and histories are all full of corruption and error. If you seek to know the truth, connect to the divine source within you who had been their before the corruption and he shall teach you all things. This is the spirit of truth. After the Restoration -(Isaiah 11:11-13) shall the true Temple come(Isaiah 2). Come and learn. Your JW knows nothing.

bobestman:
God gave no religion.

Madness at its peak!

The same God who established a religion for ancient nation of Israel, shey?

Ọmọ go and see a psychiatrist fast!

MaxInDHouse:

Madness at its peak!

The same God who established a religion for ancient nation of Israel, shey?

Ọmọ go and see a psychiatrist fast!

Your ignorance is what will make you slave forever to JW's who know nothing. God Almighty gave his ppl laws, commandments etc. They can practice it anywhere. It is different from your re-legions which is a corruption of what you copied from them

bobestman:
Your ignorance is what will make you slave forever to JW's who know nothing. God Almighty gave his ppl laws, commandments etc. They can practice it anywhere. It is different from your re-legions which is a corruption of what you copied from them

Keep lying to yourself!

Where did the God of Israel say people can worship Him according to the laws He gave Moses apart from Israel?

Ọmọ the New Covenant totally differs from the laws God gave the nation of Israel that's why He established another which has nothing to do with Judaism! Jeremiah 31:31-34

MaxInDHouse:


Keep lying to yourself!

Where did the God of Israel say people can worship Him according to the laws He gave Moses apart from Israel?

Ọmọ the New Covenant totally differs from the laws God gave the nation of Israel that's why He established another which has nothing to do with Judaism! Jeremiah 31:31-34

He gave them laws, commandment etc and demands that they obey it. Once they do that, they are in good terms with him and enjoy the blessings of obedience. If they disobey, they suffer the curses - Deu 28. Very simple. Everything they should do including how they should worship is clearly written in the laws. The messiah and his disciples also kept and obey the hebrew laws. Your religions fabricated from their ways is a waste of time

bobestman:
He gave them laws, commandment etc and demands that they obey it. Once they do that, they are in good terms with him and enjoy the blessings of obedience. If they disobey, they suffer the curses - Deu 28. Very simple. Everything they should do including how they should worship is clearly written in the laws. The messiah and his disciples also kept and obey the hebrew laws. Your religions fabricated from their ways is a waste of time

Stop beating about the bush!

In the laws given to Israel it's only within the boarders of Israel that anyone can worship the God of Israel acceptably!

MaxInDHouse:


Stop beating about the bush!

In the laws given to Israel it's only with the land of Israel that anyone can worship the God of Israel acceptably!

LOL. As they are not in the land of Isreal they should worship with your ignorant Jw right? Isreal was carried away many times. Whenever they realised their mistakes and cry to their maker even in captivity he sends them a helper and they are restored. Daniel served his Creator even in captivity. So God is not worshipped or his laws obeyed only in the land of Isreal. If you claim to know the God of Isreal then follow his WAYS. You ppl are ignorant that you accept only how Jw's explained things to you. You never use your brain that is why you are brainwashed

bobestman:
LOL. As they are not in the land of Isreal they should worship with your ignorant Jw right? Isreal was carried away many times. Whenever they realised their mistakes and cry to their maker even in captivity he sends them a helper and they are restored. Daniel served his Creator even in captivity. So God is not worshipped or his laws obeyed only in the land of Isreal. If you claim to know the God of Isreal then follow his WAYS. You ppl are ignorant that you accept only how Jw's explained things to you. You never use your brain that is why you are brainwashed

Mumu!

Why must they return to the land if they can equally worship him anywhere they are?

MaxInDHouse:


Mumu!

Why must they return to the land if they can equally worship him anywhere they are?

You are the one saying He can't be worshiped anywhere only in Isreal. Their is a difference between worship and Restoration to ancestral land. Go and figure that out. You can worship anywhere even in captivity. In restoration, they must complete the numbers of years for their iniquity (400yrs) even if their are many righteous ppl in captivity. God Almighty is a spirit(secret entity) and you can only worship him in spirit and truth(secret). True worship is in secret. Obeying his laws is what pleases Him. Your religions are just a waste of time

Worship totally differs from calling on someone for help!
For instance if you call the Nigerian government for help in any part of this planet they will send rescue squad to save you but if you want to serve Nigeria you must be here in Nigeria.
Do you get that now?
Calling God totally differs from worshiping God!

bobestman:
You are the one saying He can't be worshiped anywhere only in Isreal. Their is a difference between worship and Restoration to ancestral land. Go and figure that out. You can worship anywhere even in captivity. In restoration, they must complete the numbers of years for their iniquity (400yrs) even if their are many righteous ppl in captivity. God Almighty is a spirit(secret entity) and you can only worship him in spirit and truth(secret). True worship is in secret. Obeying his laws is what pleases Him. Your religions are just a waste of time

MaxInDHouse:
Worship totally differs from calling on someone for help!
For instance if you call the Nigerian government for help in any part of this planet they will send rescue squad to save you but if you want to serve Nigeria you must be here in Nigeria.
Do you get that now?
Calling God totally differs from worshiping God!

You said nothing. You are just re-telling what i already said. True worship is done secretly and anyone can do it anywhere, for those who worship the God of heaven must do so in spirit and truth (secretly). The Messiah always worship secretly where no one sees him and taught his disciples to do same. Worship in Isreal is only after the Restoration. Your idea that one can only worship the Creator in Isreal is wrong. For He is a spirit just like a wind and can be anywhere anytime

bobestman:
You said nothing. You are just re-telling what i already said. True worship is done secretly and anyone can do it anywhere, for those who worship the God of heaven must do so in spirit and truth (secretly). The Messiah always worship secretly where no one sees him and taught his disciples to do same. Worship in Isreal is only after the Restoration. Your idea that one can only worship the Creator in Isreal is wrong. For He is a spirit just like a wind and can be anywhere anytime

You're just lying to your own soul!

Jesus made it clear that before worship wasn't in spirit and truth o, so before Christ it's only in Jerusalem that people must worship God!

MaxInDHouse:


You're just lying to your own soul!

Jesus made it clear that before worship wasn't in spirit and truth o, so before Christ it's only in Jerusalem that people must worship God!

Where did he tell you that before worship was not done in secret? Do you even understand what worship means? The hebrews worship in their homes. But once a year during passover they go to the temple at Jerusalem - 1 Sam 1:3&6. Remember their is only one temple. In John 4 you are reading from, Samaritans worship on mountains and Jews in Jerusalem. The messiah answered her cos he knew that the temple will be destroyed and they all will be sacked and ppl will worship the father from their homes (spirit and truth). Ppl worshipped in spirit and truth even in the days of the temple cos the father is everywhere. Their are ppl who might not be able to go to Jerusalem for some reasons during feasts or passover. They worship at their homes. Temple woship is often

bobestman:
Where did he tell you that before worship was not done in secret? Do you even understand what worship means? The hebrews worship in their homes. But once a year during passover they go to the temple at Jerusalem - 1 Sam 1:3&6. Remember their is only one temple. In John 4 you are reading from, Samaritans worship on mountains and Jews in Jerusalem. The messiah answered her cos he knew that the temple will be destroyed and they all will be sacked and ppl will worship the father from their homes (spirit and truth). Ppl worshipped in spirit and truth even in the days of the temple cos the father is everywhere. Their are ppl who might not be able to go to Jerusalem for some reasons during feasts or passover. They worship at their homes. Temple woship is often

Guy i don't gbadun liar at all stop lying nah!
If they can worship anywhere then what is the significance of Jerusalem in Judaism?

Maximus692:


Guy i don't gbadun liar at all stop lying nah!
If they can worship anywhere then what is the significance of Jerusalem in Judaism?

You keep shouting lies when everything is very clear even in your bible. Your problem is that you lack understanding and hate correction. That is why Jw could easily spoonfeed and brainwash you. Jerusalem is like Mecca. Their are ppl who guide and work their including the priests. It is in a far place so ppl don't go their everyday. Ppl gather their when their are events like feasts, passover (once a year) etc. This doesn't mean ppl can't go their to pray personally or to see a priest. Your ignorance is why you call truth lies and why you will remain a slave to JW's who know nothing. You also don't know what true worship is and teaching. The messiah taught in temples but worshipped the father secretly in bushes. True worship is sth b/w you and the father only and thus secret. Even in temples they pray secretly to the father

bobestman:
You keep shouting lies when everything is very clear even in your bible. Your problem is that you lack understanding and hate correction. That is why Jw could easily spoonfeed and brainwash you. Jerusalem is like Mecca. Their are ppl who guide and work their including the priests. It is in a far place so ppl don't go their everyday. Ppl gather their when their are events like feasts, passover (once a year) etc. This doesn't mean ppl can't go their to pray personally or to see a priest. Your ignorance is why you call truth lies and why you will remain a slave to JW's who know nothing. You also don't know what true worship is and teaching. The messiah taught in temples but worshipped the father secretly in bushes. True worship is sth b/w you and the father only and thus secret. Even in temples they pray secretly to the father

Guy stop lying to your own detriment.

Jesus confirmed that Jerusalem is the place where people ought to worship but from his own time onwards God has approved the gathering of faithful people anywhere they gather.
So it's not just anywhere whether in the old testament or new it's only in the gathering of faithful people that God accepts worship not in isolation.
That's the significance of Jerusalem as faithfuls gather as one family!

Maximus692:


Guy stop lying to your own detriment.

Jesus confirmed that Jerusalem is the place where people ought to worship but from his own time onwards God has approved the gathering of faithful people anywhere they gather.
So it's not just anywhere whether in the old testament or new it's only in the gathering of faithful people that God accepts worship not in isolation.
That's the significance of Jerusalem as faithfuls gather as one family!

Christ taught that, where? Or you should say you don't understand. Spirit and truth is secret. Untill he returns and restore his ppl and the temple, worship in secret. Anything else is a waste of time. The temple of God Almighty is within you. Be led by the spirit within you not false teachers who know nothing. That part of you that was their when the corruption began is the only one who can guide you right. Your books has errors. Your teachers, itching ears. They don't know neither do they understand.

bobestman:

Christ taught that, where? Or you should say you don't understand. Spirit and truth is secret. Untill he returns and restore his ppl and the temple, worship in secret. Anything else is a waste of time. The temple of God Almighty is within you. Be led by the spirit within you not false teachers who know nothing. That part of you that was their when the corruption began is the only one who can guide you right. Your books has errors. Your teachers, itching ears. They don't know neither do they understand.

You're totally confused, you want to cut off the role of TEACHERS yet you want to TEACH others!

Jesus confirmed that the Jews were right when they say Jerusalem is where everyone supposed to worship:

The woman asked “Sir, I see that you are a prophet. Our forefathers worshipped on this mountain, but you people say that in Jerusalem is the place where people must worship.”  Jesus said to her: “Believe me, woman, the hour is coming when neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem will you worship the Father. You worship what you do not know; we worship what we know, because salvation begins with the Jews." John 4:19-22

The underlined Jesus confirmed that Jerusalem is the only place God approved for worship but the time is coming when it will no longer be so!

Spirit and truth means in the same line of thought and according to God's purpose!

Maximus692:

You're totally confused, you want to cut off the role of TEACHERS yet you want to TEACH others!

Jesus confirmed that the Jews were right when they say Jerusalem is where everyone supposed to worship:

The woman asked “Sir, I see that you are a prophet. Our forefathers worshipped on this mountain, but you people say that in Jerusalem is the place where people must worship.”  Jesus said to her: “Believe me, woman, the hour is coming when neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem will you worship the Father. You worship what you do not know; we worship what we know, because salvation begins with the Jews." John 4:19-22

The underlined Jesus confirmed that Jerusalem is the only place God approved for worship but the time is coming when it will no longer be so!

Spirit and truth means in the same line of thought and according to God's purpose!

You know nothing. I already explained that.

bobestman:
You know nothing. I already explained that.

LIAR!
How can you explain what you're not doing? James 2:18-26

Jehovah's Witnesses are doing God's will which is preaching to gather faithful people throughout the earth under one umbrella, teaching them to prepare for God's Kingdom {Matthew 28:19-20} so that they're setting their disparities peacefully among themselves, diverting their resources into production of food and information materials, erasing the making, buying, selling and using weapons against their fellowman and vowing never to raise weapons against anyone again! Isaiah 2:2-4

If not for worship in spirit and truth how can that be possible? Matthew 19:26; Zechariah 4:6
Ọmọ whenever you see Jehovah's Witnesses take a bow before messengers of the true God!

Maximus692:


LIAR!
How can you explain what you're not doing? James 2:18-26

Jehovah's Witnesses are doing God's will which is preaching to gather faithful people throughout the earth under one umbrella, teaching them to prepare for God's Kingdom {Matthew 28:19-20} so that they're setting their disparities peacefully among themselves, diverting their resources into production of food and information materials, erasing the making, buying, selling and using weapons against their fellowman and vowing never to raise weapons against anyone again! Isaiah 2:2-4

If not for worship in spirit and truth how can that be possible? Matthew 19:26; Zechariah 4:6
Ọmọ whenever you see Jehovah's Witnesses take a bow before messengers of the true God!

You don't even know who the true God is. Let alone the true Messiah. All your teachings are full of errors so you are teaching in vain. The last gospel that will bring salvation is at endtime (Rev 14:6;18:1-4; mat 24). Wait for it!

Goodyshoes:
Now we know that lots of Christian fundentalists subscribe to the notion of speaking in tongues.
This is an act which the early apostles engaged in while in the upper room. I clearly understand it as speaking in a language/tongue foreign to yours. For instance, a Greek man speaking Hausa. That'd definitely qualify as " speaking in tongues", which would be a far cry from the today's church's version and interpretation of the tongues.
However, I see it as an exercise that wouldn't serve as a prerequisite to getting to God's Kingdom.
Thoughts, opinions and comments.
Cheers.

It's a waste of time. They are trying to speak like their imaginary sky daddy fairy who is the most high after being drunk.

bobestman:
You don't even know who the true God is. Let alone the true Messiah. All your teachings are full of errors so you are teaching in vain. The last gospel that will bring salvation is at endtime (Rev 14:6;18:1-4; mat 24). Wait for it!

Ọmọ this is the endtime and Jehovah's Witnesses are the ones that book is talking about!
Where you are getting it all wrong is because you think it's an angel that will come and preach to humans:

"And I saw another angel flying in midheaven, and he had everlasting good news to declare to those who dwell on the earth, to every nation and tribe and tongue and people" Revelations 14:6
God has never and will never send angels to preach to humans because preaching is all about making decisions to do what God say or not to do it so if it's not a human like ourselves that's preaching no human can doubt whatever such an angel says.
Moreover angels aren't aren't experiencing the same type of suffering that humans are facing so an angel is not in a position to convince human on whether to live by God's standard or not since he himself (angel) is not in our shoes.
That's what God's word meant in the Bible book of Hebrews 1:5 God can't send an angel to tell humans how to obey God's word in the flesh it's a human whom we can all see obeying the same rules that can convince us who are humans in the flesh to do exactly what he is also doing in the flesh! 1Peter 4:1

So if your own god told you to be idle our own God is at work always {John 5:17} and He has ordered us through His only begotten Son to get to work preaching zealously and industriously teaching in all our neighbourhood! Matthew 28:18-20; Act 1:8