mubarakopeyemi:


Mumu

ParrishNorwood:


An eye for an eye.

omojeesu:


An eye for an eye is not good. Leave all to God! He knows all. He is the True Judge.

mubarakopeyemi:


Mumu

I don't have time to start reading all those, but trust me when I have the time I will.

So now u mean to tell me the Bible is not in any way Violent and that the Quran is Violent thereby making Muslims violent too?

omojeesu:


mubarakopeyemi, na wa for you o!
The reason for discussion has been found to be a lie: Emunike has not coverted to Islam after all. We wait for comment from Adebayor also.

But besides, the spirit that abuses another is not of God. Truth can be painful, but heals if you can accept it. Too much blood has been and continues to be shed in the name of Islam. Fellow humans are being shot, bombed, tortured and beheaded!!! All these in the 21st CENTURY! Haba.

Muslims even kill fellow Muslims, even inside mosques. But Christians are preferred targets. This actually we know is our lot. Jesus said so in John 16:1-3:

These things have I spoken unto you, that ye should not be offended. They shall put you out of the synagogues: YEA, THE TIME COMETH, THAT WHOSOEVER KILLED YOU WILL THINK THAT HE DOTH GOD SERVICE. And these things will they do unto you, because THEY HAVE NOT KNOWN THE FATHER, NOR ME.

Paul also in:

Romans 8:36
As it is written, FOR THY SAKE WE ARE KILLED ALL THE DAY LONG; we are accounted as SHEEP for the SLAUGHTER.

As for beheading:

Revelation 20:4
And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I SAW THE SOULS OF THEM THAT WERE BEHEADED FOR THE WITNESS OF JESUS, AND FOR THE WORD OF GOD, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

My friend Jesus loves you and so do I. Please believe it.!

Aareonakakanfo:

You mean the egyptian goddess?

mubarakopeyemi:


Simple reasoning.

Please and please, Reason like a sensible Human. Being.

Islam doesn't preach violence in any way Initially. But what annoys me is that the more we muslims deny these acts of terrorism the more you Christians are blinded by Hatred.

A true muslim is ordered by Allah not take the life of an innocent soul, no matter whom he is.
How will u say u fight for Islam and u Kill Mostly muslims? so then what are you fighting for when you kill those that are in the religion you said you are fighting for?

These people are terrorists and not muslims and we Muslims deny them. If you Christians like, take if you like leave it, It doesn't remove an hair from me.

Boko Haram are in the North, a muslim populated region, yet they go to mosque and bomb it, kill everyone praying in the Mosque.
still u call them Muslims, how will a muslim kill his muslim brother while he is praying ? even bomb the mosque?? u call a terrorist hiding under islam a muslim, while he kills Muslims while they worship on a holy day.

May Almighty Allah Judge u all accordingly for ur deceptive attacks against islam.

I'm not in the mood for debates today.

crotonite:


jokes apart, I am serrious this time around.


I can still recall what the muslim clerics where preaching during the 2011 general elections. dont tell me dat they where all infidels like me.

**islam doesn't teach violence, did mohamed kill during his time on earth?


**bkh bombing mosques.. the sunni's call the shia's infidels, why wont bonmbing occur


no one is hiding under the cloak of islam bros, thats the way islam is period.


mind you I grew up in the north, so dont tell me rubbish.

mubarakopeyemi:


Your last sentence already tied u . U grew up in the north A muslim dominated region and you're not yet killed, injured or suffered for not being a muslim. True muslims never do that. If u Like believe if u like don't. Na ur palava not mine.

Hater!

You're so silly and delusional and you lack knowledge and foresight. For once, just have a sense and reason. For example; Boko Haram.

In the North, the Muslims there are far more than the christians, the BH kills the muslims and still say they're fighting for Islam. They bomb mosque, and even go as far as worse to bomb a mosque on a Friday and kill everyone who tries to escape and still say they are fighting for islam.

A terrorist can claim to be fighting for Jesus and that he follows the teachings of the Bible. The christian community would deny them, wouldn't they? And they want the whole world to believe that they are not truly Christians. Fine by this? Ok!

Now that the Islamic community has denied These terrorists and say they are not muslims and that islam doesn't teach terrorism, out of hatred you all just don't believe. Your problem is not ISIS or BH your problem is the hate you have for islam. And if you have knowledge you would know better. Or is this not just simple reasoning, a course you claim to be the one that taught you killings even still taught you to kill many of its own?!

Now the question is if BH tries to fool your intelligence by saying they follow the quran, why can't you also prove to them your high level sensibility by finding out where islam teaches Killings of innocent people who are majorly muslim , where Islam taught them to go Kill muslims praying In the mosque on a friday.

Or where Islam the religion which they claim they are fighting for permitted the abduction of girls.
They know you're all fools and you would believe their lies. All these terrorists hiding under islam have a political Agenda and do not fight for islam truly. So as you can all believe they are muslims, they are fine and they can continue with their political agenda with Success.

ISIS for example in Iraq, the people of Iraq are majorly muslims, how would ISIS say they fight for Islam and still kill muslims anyhow.

How has islam taught you to kill virgins who refused to have sex with you simple she know its against God's will.

Very few of you christians can see and understand. All you amateur ones browsing the internet without gaining knowledge are so much, so you all dominate the internet vicinity with the belief that the terrorist had made you to believe that they are for islam while they accomplish their political aims.

Resolve on this man, you lack knowledge.
Reason, don't waste your MB on just Browsing.
You made a post about how bad islam is and you should also be able to find for yourself what the truth about these Killers who call themselves Muslims is.

THEY ARE NOT MUSLIMS
People like you help them excel in their political agenda.

If islam taught killings truly, would u be alive? You muslim friends, neighbor, or companions would have killed you since and you won't have muslim have friends.

As far as I'm concerned Islam is peace and Islamic youths denies all terrorist who try to hide under the canopy of islam.

If you like believe, if you like don't. Do I seem Fazed?
Just mind what you say about islam and just promote your own religion.
Stop hating, seek knowledge!

The fact that the media is promoting and hyping the islamic parts and don't talk about christian terrorist doesn't mean you don't have Christian terrorists.
There are more than enough I can mention.

1- Army of God in the US
2- Eastern Lightning, a.k.a. the Church of the Almighty God in China
3- The Lord’s Resistance Army (LRA) in Uganda
4- TheNational Liberation Front of Tripura in India
5- The Phineas Priesthood
6- The concerned Christians.

Google them and you shall see.

www.patheos.com/blogs/danthropology/2015/04/christian-terrorist-groups-exist-and-we-often-simply-ignore-them/

www.salon.com/2015/04/07/6_modern_day_christian_terrorist_groups_our_media_conveniently_ignores_partner/


BTW: Don't forget to get out of my sight

mubarakopeyemi:


Better off than a Blind Disease infested thingummy like you
Which is of no use for the whole community at large

crotonite:


then why do they chant 'allahu akbar' before dieing a miserable death


btw jesus raised lazurus and killed non. christians live like christ. so therefore you can't kill in his name..

crotonite:


then why do they chant 'allahu akbar' before dieing a miserable death


btw jesus raised lazurus and killed non. christians live like christ. so therefore you can't kill in his name..

mubarakopeyemi:


Lol u want me to start with u shey?

let us talk about Samson, Samson is the strong and powerful guy, with long hairs. Judges chapter 16 tells us about Samson, and actually it turned out Samson is the First Suicide Killer and the only one we know of in the scripture. Now, Judges Chapter 16, Verse 27 tells us about when he had been blinded by the enemy. There had been many altercation between him and the Philistines such that sometimes they kill his men and he also killed many of them, one time he took 300 foxes and tied their Tails together then light their tails with fire and send them running into the cornfield, demolishing all of the crops and of course burning the foxes as well, so where are the animal rights activists? But when Samson was eventually captured by the enemy when Delilah revealed his secret, and he was brought into the festivity to perform for the crowd and this is what Samson did;

Judges 16 verse 27 -30: “27 Now the house was full of men and women; and all the lords of the Philistines were there; and there were upon the roof about three thousand men and women, that beheld while Samson made sport. 28 And Samson called unto the LORD, and said, O Lord GOD, remember me, I pray thee, and strengthen me, I pray thee, only this once, O God, that I may be at once avenged of the Philistines for my two eyes. 29 And Samson took hold of the two middle pillars upon which the house stood, and on which it was borne up, of the one with his right hand, and of the other with his left. 30 And Samson said, let me die with the Philistines. And he bowed himself with all his might; and the house fell upon the lords, and upon all the people that were therein. So the dead which he slew at his death were more than they which he slew in his life.”

So we don’t know the total of those whom he killed, but there were 3,000 people on the roof alone, that means one the roof alone were more than those people who died in the 9/11 Bombings of the WTC in U.S. This doesn’t mean that the 9/11 bombing was right. We should be clear that in the Quran, there is nothing that justifies the 9/11 Terrorist attack, but actually, in the Bible, we have something that actually celebrate and glorifies a SUICIDE KILLER.

Or u Christians don't follow the bible anymore?

mubarakopeyemi:


Simple reasoning.

Please and please, Reason like a sensible Human. Being.

Islam doesn't preach violence in any way Initially. But what annoys me is that the more we muslims deny these acts of terrorism the more you Christians are blinded by Hatred.

A true muslim is ordered by Allah not take the life of an innocent soul, no matter whom he is.
How will u say u fight for Islam and u Kill Mostly muslims? so then what are you fighting for when you kill those that are in the religion you said you are fighting for?

These people are terrorists and not muslims and we Muslims deny them. If you Christians like, take if you like leave it, It doesn't remove an hair from me.

Boko Haram are in the North, a muslim populated region, yet they go to mosque and bomb it, kill everyone praying in the Mosque.
still u call them Muslims, how will a muslim kill his muslim brother while he is praying ? even bomb the mosque?? u call a terrorist hiding under islam a muslim, while he kills Muslims while they worship on a holy day.

May Almighty Allah Judge u all accordingly for ur deceptive attacks against islam.

I'm not in the mood for debates today.

crotonite:


AND JESUS SAID 'old things are past away'.

next please ..I feel bellicose this afternoon..

**modified**
when you quote the bible, quote the new testament. what matters alot to me is what comes out of my merciful jesus's mouth.

may jesus restore ur blind eyes. AMEN..


bros people are deing and we are here arguing, sha I dare not challenge a muslim when he/she calls me 'arneh/kaffir/infidel', coz they easily go suicidal .

nairaland is the only places where the christians play badboys, and the mslms saints. in real life, the reverse is allways the case.


##i love you, -religion.

mubarakopeyemi:


So u mean to say God can say a thing a later change it?

Ultimately, the bible itself has justified the acts of Bible Heroes and Prophets, and it attest to it that all that they did was right and not in any way faulted.
According to Hebrew Chapter 11 Verse 32: “32And what shall I more say? for the time would fail me to tell of Gedeon, and of Barak, and of Samson, and of Jephthae; of David also, and Samuel, and of the prophets: 33 Who through faith subdued kingdoms, wrought righteousness, obtained promises, stopped the mouths of lions….”

So what u now try to say is that Jesus came to Nullify the old testament

Confused Beings

crotonite:


Islamic

State of

Iraq and

Syria.

## peace piss.

mubarakopeyemi:


Lol u want me to start with u shey?

let us talk about Samson, Samson is the strong and powerful guy, with long hairs. Judges chapter 16 tells us about Samson, and actually it turned out Samson is the First Suicide Killer and the only one we know of in the scripture. Now, Judges Chapter 16, Verse 27 tells us about when he had been blinded by the enemy. There had been many altercation between him and the Philistines such that sometimes they kill his men and he also killed many of them, one time he took 300 foxes and tied their Tails together then light their tails with fire and send them running into the cornfield, demolishing all of the crops and of course burning the foxes as well, so where are the animal rights activists? But when Samson was eventually captured by the enemy when Delilah revealed his secret, and he was brought into the festivity to perform for the crowd and this is what Samson did;

Judges 16 verse 27 -30: “27 Now the house was full of men and women; and all the lords of the Philistines were there; and there were upon the roof about three thousand men and women, that beheld while Samson made sport. 28 And Samson called unto the LORD, and said, O Lord GOD, remember me, I pray thee, and strengthen me, I pray thee, only this once, O God, that I may be at once avenged of the Philistines for my two eyes. 29 And Samson took hold of the two middle pillars upon which the house stood, and on which it was borne up, of the one with his right hand, and of the other with his left. 30 And Samson said, let me die with the Philistines. And he bowed himself with all his might; and the house fell upon the lords, and upon all the people that were therein. So the dead which he slew at his death were more than they which he slew in his life.”

So we don’t know the total of those whom he killed, but there were 3,000 people on the roof alone, that means one the roof alone were more than those people who died in the 9/11 Bombings of the WTC in U.S. This doesn’t mean that the 9/11 bombing was right. We should be clear that in the Quran, there is nothing that justifies the 9/11 Terrorist attack, but actually, in the Bible, we have something that actually celebrate and glorifies a SUICIDE KILLER.

Or u Christians don't follow the bible anymore?

crotonite:


I have spent many decades in the north, in the middle of hausas (harded coded islamist), and I still find nothing alluring in this islam of a thing , BUT TERROR.

mubarakopeyemi:


Did you just say love

If you understand the spirit of Love, you couldn't have been posting deceptive things about Islam.
Your words are already hunting u.

I am still waiting for what u wanna serve me

Coz its all falsehood upon Falsehood.

I wont give u hot now.. Just waiting to see what u wanna say

taofeeq137:

Deuteronomy 13:6-10
"If your brother, your mother's son, or your son or daughter, or the wife you cherish, or your friend who is as your own soul, entice you secretly, saying, 'Let us go and serve other gods' (whom neither you nor your fathers have known, of the gods of the peoples who are around you, near you or far from you, from one end of the earth to the other end), you shall not yield to him or listen to him; and your eye shall not pity him, nor shall you spare or conceal him.
"But you shall surely kill him; your hand shall be first against him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. "So you shall stone him to death because he has sought to seduce you from the LORD your God who brought you out from the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery.


the post above is to actually quote omojeesu

crotonite:


then why do they chant 'allahu akbar' before dieing a miserable death


btw jesus raised lazurus and killed non. christians live like christ. so therefore you can't kill in his name..

taofeeq137:


Leviticus 20:13 - If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood [shall be] upon them.

Deuteronomy 21:18–21 expands on the law:
If any man has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey his father or his mother, and when they chastise him, he will not even listen to them, then his father and mother shall seize him, and bring him out to the elders of his city at the gateway of his home town. And they shall say to the elders of his city, “This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey us, he is a glutton and a drunkard.” Then all the men of his city shall stone him to death; so you shall remove the evil from your midst, and all Israel shall hear of it and fear.

Deuteronomy 13:6-10
"If your brother, your mother's son, or your son or daughter, or the wife you cherish, or your friend who is as your own soul, entice you secretly, saying, 'Let us go and serve other gods' (whom neither you nor your fathers have known, of the gods of the peoples who are around you, near you or far from you, from one end of the earth to the other end), you shall not yield to him or listen to him; and your eye shall not pity him, nor shall you spare or conceal him.
"But you shall surely kill him; your hand shall be first against him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. "So you shall stone him to death because he has sought to seduce you from the LORD your God who brought you out from the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery.

Leviticus 24:16 - And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, [and] all the congregation shall certainly stone him: as well the stranger, as he that is born in the land, when he blasphemeth the name [of the LORD], shall be put to death.

so...Ma, I would advice you seek the truth very well b4 condemning,
truly, the holy Quran asks to kill infidels, all christians quote this nd tell you to beliv we r the bad ppl, but dey wont quote the verse b4 and after this verse,

Quran 2 vs 190: Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not trangress limits; for Allah loveth not trangressors.

for christian's fav part...vs 191: And slay them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out; for persecution is worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the sacred Mosque(is BH still Islamic to u now?) unless they first fight you there; but if they fight you, slay them. Such is the reward of those who reject faith.

vs 192: But if they cease, Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.

taofeeq137:


Leviticus 20:13 - If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood [shall be] upon them.

Deuteronomy 21:18–21 expands on the law:
If any man has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey his father or his mother, and when they chastise him, he will not even listen to them, then his father and mother shall seize him, and bring him out to the elders of his city at the gateway of his home town. And they shall say to the elders of his city, “This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey us, he is a glutton and a drunkard.” Then all the men of his city shall stone him to death; so you shall remove the evil from your midst, and all Israel shall hear of it and fear.

Deuteronomy 13:6-10
"If your brother, your mother's son, or your son or daughter, or the wife you cherish, or your friend who is as your own soul, entice you secretly, saying, 'Let us go and serve other gods' (whom neither you nor your fathers have known, of the gods of the peoples who are around you, near you or far from you, from one end of the earth to the other end), you shall not yield to him or listen to him; and your eye shall not pity him, nor shall you spare or conceal him.
"But you shall surely kill him; your hand shall be first against him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. "So you shall stone him to death because he has sought to seduce you from the LORD your God who brought you out from the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery.

Leviticus 24:16 - And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, [and] all the congregation shall certainly stone him: as well the stranger, as he that is born in the land, when he blasphemeth the name [of the LORD], shall be put to death.

so...Ma, I would advice you seek the truth very well b4 condemning,
truly, the holy Quran asks to kill infidels, all christians quote this nd tell you to beliv we r the bad ppl, but dey wont quote the verse b4 and after this verse,

Quran 2 vs 190: Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not trangress limits; for Allah loveth not trangressors.

for christian's fav part...vs 191: And slay them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out; for persecution is worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the sacred Mosque(is BH still Islamic to u now?) unless they first fight you there; but if they fight you, slay them. Such is the reward of those who reject faith.

vs 192: But if they cease, Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.

crotonite:

please can you kindly anwer these questions no offence.

1.during mohammeds stay on earth did he kill a human being?
2.what of jesus, did he too?

***awaiting ur answers.

mubarakopeyemi:


Fits Him perfectly

omojeesu:


Very good research! Go back to my earlier post on the issue. Thank God that we have both Old and New Testaments. The former applied to Israel as a nation for guidance on the moral, civil and ceremonial laws.

The moral laws are eternal, essentially based on love, faith, righteouness and holiness in our relationship with God and man. The civil law was the legal instrument against such sins as adultery. The ceremonial law was to guide religion and relationship with God. These were very strict generally and the Jews failed woefully. In fact no human can ever fulfil the entire law. Simply impossible!

That's why we ALL need J.E.S.U.S. He fulfilled these 3 aspects of the Law for ALL even for the unborn child! This is the NEW COVENANT and testament made by possible by His precious sinless and perfect blood.

You see, one major difference between the two covenants / testaments is the coming of the Holy Spirit to live in a man. This is part of the GRACE we enjoy. The Spirit helps you to live right and please God! His presence helps us to be more like Jesus and fellowship with God.

The passage you referred to is judicial act for a sexual sin. Death! Jesus set free a woman caught in adultery. All the imperfections of the OT are perfected in the New including loving enemies!

Look my friends the punishment above is civil law of the past. It is not the same as Muslims killing non Muslims or even fellow Muslims today. The world wants to even do away with death penalty. What your people are doing is murder by terrorism. It is not judicial punishment entrenched in the law of a country.

By the way terrorism in the name of religion and God is a sign the end of the world is near. That Jesus is coming soon! Please He wants you to surrender your lives to Him. He loves you. We do too! Please believe it!

mubarakopeyemi:


Terrorism and Islam are not in any way correlated.

A terrorist is a Terrorist!

A true muslim does not Kill

A true muslim does not kill his fellow Muslims.

It is you Christians, the Hate Hearted Beings

It is you christians that de stabilizes everything and hide under the peace of your so called christ.

It is you christians that your Pastors are getting richer while the church member gets poorer

It is you christians that began the World war and De stabilized the whole word for years, not just even once, but twice!

It is you christians does doesn't have a unit of tolerance for other religions while you say other religions hates you.

Your great pope is canvassing for a new world order the satanic ambition.

It is you christians That shouts the name of Islam on terrorism all day; the terrorism created by your brother in christ in the West.

You christians; very few of you has sense.

The same way some laws in the Quran as as fitted to the time which it was revealed to the prophet. So as to serve as guide for the muslims against the wickedness and hardness of the Kaffirs. If a word was said at that time to the people, what does it mean to say to us this very day given that the circumstances are different.
This is hatred.
Stop being Myopic!
This is enough from you 3 Gods serving deluded beings
We won't explain anything any further.
To you be your religion to me be mine.
Iesa (jesus) is our prophet in Islam and he is a Muslim, he was not killed/Crucified. You sin your sins at your peril.

Islam is the way, make hay while the sun shines, tomorrow might be too late, U might regret time wasted.

You won't have to have two fictional books and say one is better than the other or that the first has errors while the other is better.

You won't have to say your God is 3, and one of them is still the Son to the greater no 1 God.

You won't have to be confused as to whom to worship among your 3 Gods cz U're unsure whether one is greater than the other.

Submit to Islam and bear witness that there is only one God and that Muhammed is his messenger.

Please believe It!

taofeeq137:

Well...According to my knowledge, none of them ever took a life

crotonite:


see your life!
bloody lier, repent!!

crotonite:


see your life!
bloody lier, repent!!