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Top Ten Astonishing Miracles (warning, Some Graphihc Pics) by 5minsmadness: 11:46am On Aug 08, 2015
Whether you believe in miracles or not, there is an enormous amount of documentation for seemingly inexplicable events over the centuries that many people believe to be the work of God Himself. In this list I have tried to pick the ten most interesting of these cases.

For obvious reasons (lack of verification), this list does not include any tele-evangelist “faith healers”.

10. Marian Apparition in Zeitoun 1968 – 1970

Probably the most famous of the marian apparitions, these were the visions of St Bernadette at Lourdes (related item 6 on this list), and three children in Fatima (related item 1 on this list). In both cases, the people involved said that the Virgin Mary gave them predictions of future events and preached prayer and penance. The famous case of Our Lady of Zeitoun took place in Zeitoun, Cairo, and contrary to the norm, the apparition was witnessed by millions of people over a period of 2 to 3 years. The apparition was even caught on film (as seen in the photograph above). The Coptic Orthodox Pope of Alexandria in Cairo issued a statement that the apparitions were real. The Catholic Church has yet to issue an official statement. You can view video footage here.http://www.zeitun-eg.org/zeitoun1.rm

9. Incorruptible Corpses

Incorruptibility is the name given to the situation in which a dead person does not decay after death. The orthodox church consider it essential in considering a person for canonization as a saint, and the Roman Catholic Church consider it as sign of sainthood but not a necessity. Additionally, the Catholic Church believes that a body is not deemed incorruptible if it has undergone an embalming process or other means of preserving the dead, or if it has become stiff, as do all normal corpses, even when the best preservation techniques are used. Incorruptible saints remain completely flexible, as if they were only sleeping. Incorruptible bodies are often said to have the Odour of Sanctity, exuding a sweet aroma. Over the years there have been hundreds of Saints whose bodies have been found to be incorrupt – some many hundreds of years after their death. In the image above we see St Bernadette as she appears today – 129 years after her death. For more astonishing pictures of incorruptible corpses (including the incorrupt body of St Silvan who died over 1,500 years ago), visit the Top 10 Incorrupt Corpses.http://listverse.com/2007/08/21/top-10-incorrupt-corpses/

8. Therese Neumann 1896 – 1962

Therese Neumann was a German Catholic mystic and stigmatic. On March 10, 1918, Therese Neumann was partially paralyzed after falling off a stool while attending to a fire in her uncle’s barn. She sustained more falls and injuries during this period. After one particular fall in 1919, she lost much of her eyesight. Therese reported that her eyesight was fully restored on April 29, 1923 — the day Therese of Lisieux was beatified (the first step to sainthood) in Rome. She said that on March 5, 1926, the first Friday of Lent, a wound had appeared slightly above her heart, but that she had kept this secret. However, she did report a vision of Jesus at Mount Olivet with three Apostles. On Easter Sunday, she claimed a vision of the resurrection of Christ. For several consecutive Fridays after that, she stated she was experiencing the Passion of Christ, supposedly suffering in her own body along with all his historic agonies. She especially suffered the Passion on Good Fridays each year. By November 5, 1926, she displayed nine wounds on her head as well as wounds on her back and shoulders (most of which are visible in the image above). According to several sources these wounds never healed or became infected and were found on her body at death. From the years of 1922 until her death in 1962, Therese Neumann said she had consumed no food other than The Holy Eucharist, and to have drunk no water from 1926 until her death. In July 1927 a medical doctor and four Franciscan nurses kept a watch on her 24 hours a day for a two-week period. They confirmed that she had consumed nothing except for one consecrated sacred Host a day, and had suffered no ill effects, loss of weight, or dehydration. Formal proceedings for her beatification were begun in 2005.

7. Statue in Akita 1973 – 1975

In 1973, Sister Agnes Katsuko Sasagawa in Akita, Japan had visions of the Virgin Mary. On June 28, 1973, a cross-shaped wound appeared on the inside left hand of Sr. Agnes. It bled profusely and caused her much pain. On July 6, Sr. Agnes heard a voice coming from the statue of the Blessed Virgin Mary in the chapel where she was praying. The statue was carved from a single block of wood from a Katsura tree and is three feet tall. On the same day, a few of the sisters noticed drops of blood flowing from the statue’s right hand. The wound in the statue’s hand remained until September 29, when it disappeared. On September 29, the day the wound on the statue disappeared, the sisters noticed the statue had now begun to “sweat”, especially on the forehead and neck. Two years later on January 4, 1975, the statue of the Blessed Virgin began to weep. It continued to weep at intervals for the next 6 years and eight months. It wept on 101 occasions. Scientific analysis of blood and tears from the statute provided by Professor Sagisaka of the faculty of Legal Medicine of the University of Akita confirmed that the blood, tears, and perspiration are real human tears, sweat, and blood. They come from three blood groups: O, B, and AB. Sr. Agnes was also completely cured of total deafness. In June 1988, Cardinal Ratzinger (now Pope Benedict XVI) – head of the Office of Inquisition – judged the Akita events and messages as reliable and worthy of belief.

6. Lourdes 1858

The apparitions of Our Lady of Lourdes began on 11 February 1858, when Bernadette Soubirous, a 14-year old peasant girl from Lourdes admitted, when questioned by her mother, that she had seen a “lady” in the cave of Massabielle, about a mile from the town, while she was gathering firewood with her sister and a friend. Similar appearances of the “lady” took place on seventeen further occasions that year. During one of the apparitions, she was directed by the “lady” to dig near a rock and drink from the spring there – there was a small puddle of mud in the place but as Bernadette dug in to it, a large spring appeared – this is the source of the water in the grotto to which millions of people flock for miraculous cures every year. The Lourdes Medical Bureau have declared 68 cases of inexplicable cures (out of thousands tested).You can read more on the scientific bureau here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lourdes_Medical_Bureau#Notable_cases

5 .Joseph of Cupertino 1603 – 1663

Joseph of Cupertino is an Italian saint. He was said to have been remarkably unclever, but prone to miraculous levitation, and intense ecstatic visions that left him gaping. In turn, he is recognized as the patron saint of air travelers, aviators, people with a mental handicap, and weak students. He was canonized in 1767. On October 4, 1630, the town of Cupertino held a procession on the feast day of Saint Francis of Assisi. Joseph was assisting in the procession when he suddenly soared into the sky, where he remained hovering over the crowd. When he descended and realized what had happened, he became so embarrassed that he fled to his mother’s house and hid. This was the first of many flights, which soon earned him the nickname “The Flying Saint.” Joseph’s most famous flight allegedly occurred during a papal audience before Pope Urban VIII. When he bent down to kiss the Pope’s feet, he was suddenly filled with reverence for the Pope, and was lifted up into the air. He experienced ecstasies and flights (witnessed by thousands) during his last mass which was on the Feast of the Assumption 1663. Apple Inc.’s headquarters are in the California town of Cupertino, which was named after this saint

4 Tilma of Juan Diego 1474 – 1548


Saint Juan Diego Cuauhtlatoatzin was an indigenous Mexican who reported an apparition of the Virgin Mary as Our Lady of Guadalupe in 1531. He had a significant impact on the spread of the Catholic faith within Mexico. According to Juan Diego, he returned home that night to his uncle Juan Bernardino’s house, and discovered him seriously ill. The next morning December 12, Juan Diego decided not to meet with the Lady, but to find a priest who could administer the last rites to his dying uncle. When he tried to skirt around Tepeyac hill, the Lady intercepted him, assured him his uncle would not die, and asked him to climb the hill and gather the flowers he found there. It was December, when normally nothing blooms in the cold. There he found roses from the region of Castille in Spain, former home of bishop Zumárraga. The Lady re-arranged the roses carefully inside the folded tilma that Juan Diego wore and told him not to open it before anyone but the bishop. When Juan Diego unfolded his tilma before the Bishop roses cascaded from his tilma, and an icon of Our Lady of Guadalupe was miraculously impressed on the cloth, bringing the bishop to his knees. The bishop acknowledged the miracle and within two weeks, ordered a shrine to be built where the Virgin Mary had appeared. The original tilma (pictured above) is on display in Guadalupe today and is one of the most frequently visited pilgrimage sites in the world

3 Padre Pio (St Pio of Pietrelcina) 1887 – 1968

Francesco Forgione, later known as Padre Pio, canonized as Saint Pio of Pietrelcina, was an Italian Roman Catholic Capuchin priest who is now venerated as a saint in the Roman Catholic Church. He was given the name Pio when he joined the Order of Friars Minor Capuchin, and was popularly known as Padre Pio after his ordination to the priesthood. He became famous for his stigmata. Based on Padre Pio’s correspondence, even early in his priesthood he experienced less obvious indications of the visible stigmata for which he would later become famous. Though Padre Pio would have preferred to suffer in secret, by early 1919, news about the stigmatic friar began to spread in the secular world. Padre Pio’s wounds were examined by many people, including physicians. People who had started rebuilding their lives after World War I began to see in Padre Pio a symbol of hope. Those close to him attest that he began to manifest several spiritual gifts including the gifts of healing, bilocation, levitation, prophecy, miracles, extraordinary abstinence from both sleep and nourishment (One account states that Padre Agostino recorded one instance in which Padre Pio was able to subsist for at least 20 days at Verafeno on only the Eucharist without any other nourishment), the ability to read hearts, the gift of tongues, the gift of conversions, and the fragrance from his wounds. You can see his hands concealed by fingerless gloves to hide his stigmata. You may also be interested in this clip in which St Pio’s grave and coffin are opened (on March 3, 2008) revealing that his body is incorrupt. His body is now on display in San Giovanni Rotondo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaQKQORjhbg&feature=related

2 The Miracle of Lanciano 700 AD


In the city of Lanciano, Italy, around A.D. 700, a Basilian monk and priest was assigned to celebrate the Eucharistic sacrifice in the Latin Rite in the small Church of St.Legontian. Usually celebrating in the Greek Rite and using leavened bread and having been taught that unleavened bread was invalid matter for the Holy Sacrifice he was disturbed to be constrained to use unleavened bread and had trouble believing that the miracle of transubtantiation would take place with unleavened bread. During the Mass, when he said the words of consecration, he saw the bread change into live flesh and the wine change into live blood, which coagulated into five globules, irregular and differing in shape and size. Various ecclesiastical investigations have been conducted upon the miracle, and the evidence of the miracle remains in Lanciano to this day. In 1970-71, Professors from the University of Siena conducted a scientific investigation into the miracle. They concluded that the flesh and blood are human flesh and blood. The Flesh is a heart complete in its essential structure. The Flesh and the Blood have the same blood type, AB, which is also the same blood type found on the Shroud of Turin and all other Eucharistic Miracles. The Host-Flesh, which is the same size as the large Host used today in the Latin Church, is fibrous and light brown in color, and becomes rose-colored when lighted from the back. The Blood consists of five coagulated globules and has an earthly color resembling the yellow of ochre.

1. The Miracle of the Sun

The Miracle of the Sun is an alleged miraculous event witnessed by as many as 100,000 people on 13 October 1917 in the Cova da Iria fields near Fátima, Portugal. Those in attendance had assembled to observe what the Portuguese secular newspapers had been ridiculing for months as the absurd claim of three shepherd children that a miracle was going to occur at high-noon in the Cova da Iria on October 13, 1917. According to many witness statements, after a downfall of rain, the dark clouds broke and the sun appeared as an opaque, spinning disk in the sky. It was said to be significantly less bright than normal, and cast multicolored lights across the landscape, the shadows on the landscape, the people, and the surrounding clouds. The sun was then reported to have careened towards the earth in a zigzag pattern, frightening some of those present who thought it meant the end of the world. Some witnesses reported that their previously wet clothes became “suddenly and completely dry.” Estimates of the number of witnesses range from 30,000-40,000 by Avelino de Almeida, writing for the Portuguese newspaper O Século, to 100,000, estimated by Dr. Joseph Garrett, professor of natural sciences at the University of Coimbra, both of whom were present that day. The miracle was attributed by believers to Our Lady of Fátima, an apparition of the Blessed Virgin Mary to three young shepherd children in 1917, as having been predicted by the three children on 13 July, 19 August, and 13 September 1917. The children reported that the Lady had promised them that she would on 13 October reveal her identity to them and provide a miracle “so that all may believe.” The event was officially accepted as a miracle by the Roman Catholic Church on 13 October 1930. In the image above you can see some of the many witnesses photographed during the event.




http://listverse.com/2008/07/14/top-10-astonishing-miracles/
Re: Top Ten Astonishing Miracles (warning, Some Graphihc Pics) by ELTON123(m): 11:51am On Aug 08, 2015
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Re: Top Ten Astonishing Miracles (warning, Some Graphihc Pics) by 5minsmadness: 11:55am On Aug 08, 2015
cc weah (found some for you), winner01, kingebukasblog,johnnydon22,
Re: Top Ten Astonishing Miracles (warning, Some Graphihc Pics) by jakearganaut: 11:57am On Aug 08, 2015
Hmmmm.... idonblivit
Re: Top Ten Astonishing Miracles (warning, Some Graphihc Pics) by johnydon22(m): 11:59am On Aug 08, 2015
5minsmadness:
cc weah (found some for you), winner01, kingebukasblog,johnnydon22,
I don't need to start refuting these because i have once been as gullible as believing them myself. . .

Your fellow Christians who are not catholics would totally do the job even muslims too (all theist) they will do a much better job than we atheists. . .i will just stand and watch you christians do the refutations yourself... Catholics vs Non-catholics smiley

so i an atheist really need not break a sweat when theists can just do it

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Re: Top Ten Astonishing Miracles (warning, Some Graphihc Pics) by 5minsmadness: 12:08pm On Aug 08, 2015
johnydon22:
I don't need to start refuting these because i have once been as gullible as believing them myself. . .

Your fellow Christians who are not catholics would totally do the job even muslims too (all theist) they will do a much better job than we atheists. . .i will just stand and watch you christians do the refutations yourself... Catholics vs Non-catholics smiley

so i an atheist really need not break a sweat when theists can just do it

Jesus, what are you refuting again? Witnesses were there. Some were videoed. Doctors and scientists studied and endorsed it. What more proof could u possibly want?
Re: Top Ten Astonishing Miracles (warning, Some Graphihc Pics) by johnydon22(m): 12:15pm On Aug 08, 2015
5minsmadness:


Jesus, what are you refuting again? Witnesses were there. Some were videoed. Doctors and scientists studied and endorsed it. What more proof could u possibly want?
Lmao. . . Again i don't really need a microscope to see the flimsiness of these claims up there, i can refute them if need be...

Like i said; You fellow theists that are non-catholics can do the job better, an atheist really need not break a sweat because these are just claims.

When you want to bring a real preternatural occurrence, bring a video of an amputated limb grown back in a whim.

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Re: Top Ten Astonishing Miracles (warning, Some Graphihc Pics) by 5minsmadness: 6:26pm On Aug 08, 2015
Cc Jiggaz if the
Re: Top Ten Astonishing Miracles (warning, Some Graphihc Pics) by yorubadelta(f): 3:41pm On Aug 09, 2015
Interesting stuff. 5mins, are you Catholic?
Re: Top Ten Astonishing Miracles (warning, Some Graphihc Pics) by 5minsmadness: 5:47pm On Aug 09, 2015
yorubadelta:
Interesting stuff. 5mins, are you Catholic?
Started out as one, strayed for a while (spiritual desert /experimentation /self discovery and returned back to the fold smiley
Re: Top Ten Astonishing Miracles (warning, Some Graphihc Pics) by Nobody: 8:10pm On Aug 09, 2015
I comment my reserve
Re: Top Ten Astonishing Miracles (warning, Some Graphihc Pics) by kevoh(m): 8:59pm On Aug 09, 2015
Therese Neuman scam(She won't even allow the investigating doctors stay around her when the bleeding starts) http://www.josef-hanauer.de/swindle-of-konnersreuth-5.html , Padre pio scam (google Padre Pio Carbonic Acid) http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1567216/Italys-Padre-Pio-faked-his-stigmata-with-acid.html , incorruptible saints hahahaha make I no laugh just change the location of the corpse and stop the embalming process and watch it decompose in days e.t.c

You don't need atheists to engage you in long unnecessary scientific explanations and arguments to debunk the above. There are a lot of articles online, why not search and read them yourself. Even the Catholic Church you seem to have attributed these to is a bit sceptical and takes a careful approach/investigation when it comes to matters as miracles/apparitions. That's why people think Catholic churches don't do miracles.

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Re: Top Ten Astonishing Miracles (warning, Some Graphihc Pics) by yorubadelta(f): 11:00pm On Aug 09, 2015
5minsmadness:

Started out as one, strayed for a while (spiritual desert /experimentation /self discovery and returned back to the fold smiley


Cool. Dont stray again oo tongue

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Re: Top Ten Astonishing Miracles (warning, Some Graphihc Pics) by 5minsmadness: 11:09pm On Aug 09, 2015
yorubadelta:



Cool. Dont stray again oo tongue

Hehehe
With what I've seen I highly doubt it.
Na by God's grace sha #GODWIN grin

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Re: Top Ten Astonishing Miracles (warning, Some Graphihc Pics) by 5minsmadness: 11:14pm On Aug 09, 2015
kevoh:
Therese Neuman scam(She won't even allow the investigating doctors stay around her when the bleeding starts) http://www.josef-hanauer.de/swindle-of-konnersreuth-5.html , Padre pio scam (google Padre Pio Carbonic Acid) http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1567216/Italys-Padre-Pio-faked-his-stigmata-with-acid.html , incorruptible saints hahahaha make I no laugh just change the location of the corpse and stop the embalming process and watch it decompose in days e.t.c

You don't need atheists to engage you in long unnecessary scientific explanations and arguments to debunk the above. There are a lot of articles online, why not search and read them yourself. Even the Catholic Church you seem to have attributed these to is a bit sceptical and takes a careful approach/investigation when it comes to matters as miracles/apparitions. That's why people think Catholic churches don't do miracles.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1567216/Italys-Padre-Pio-faked-his-stigmata-with-acid.html
Sure.
You'd rather believe the proofless testimony of ONE unknown pharmacist over MORE THAN 50 PHYSICIANS who examined him.
Talk about empirical evidence.
Nothing can be done for you, seriously.
You have eyes but cannot see, ears but cannot hear.
Even if GOD were to speak from the sky now you wouldn't believe.


As you rightly said, the catholic church is very skeptical about confirming miracles and ensures a very robust team made up od scientists, doctors, even atheists and the like investigate the occassions thoroughly before conceeding that indeed a miracle has taken place. All the articles u posted for Therese Neuman were simply objective discussions to wether she was a scam or not. At the end of the day the majority of examiners conceeded that indeed her stigmata were real and miraculous. That's why the investigating panel is made up of a team, not one voice.

As for the incurroptible saints, lol, you are no authority on the subject matter. Scientists greater than you have examined those bodies and seen that there is no form of embalment or preservation. Even if a body is pumped daily with formalin it will still decay a little and will be as stiff as a board due to rigormortis. these incorruptible bodies are neither. You can read more on incorruptible saints and how they are investigated in the link.

You simply DO NOT WANT TO BELIEVE even when a team of scientists and learned men have proven beyond reasonable doubt that these things are real.

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Re: Top Ten Astonishing Miracles (warning, Some Graphihc Pics) by kevoh(m): 11:25pm On Aug 09, 2015
5minsmadness:



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1567216/Italys-Padre-Pio-faked-his-stigmata-with-acid.html
Sure.
You'd rather believe the proofless testimony of ONE unknown pharmacist over MORE THAN 50 PHYSICIANS who examined him.
Talk about empirical evidence.
Nothing can be done for you, seriously.
You have eyes but cannot see, ears but cannot hear.


Oga, did you do your own research I asked you to? Padre Pio is a big scam. Which 50 physicians? I don't want to delve into posting of many links that disproves Padre Pio here. You seem to have said nothing about the link on the Scammer Therese Neuman? smiley

5minsmadness:

Even if GOD were to speak from the sky now you wouldn't believe.
So why is he finding it hard to speak now?

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Re: Top Ten Astonishing Miracles (warning, Some Graphihc Pics) by 5minsmadness: 11:30pm On Aug 09, 2015
kevoh:


Oga, did you do your own research I asked you to? Padre Pio is a big scam. Which 50 physicians? I don't want to delve into posting of many links that disproves Padre Pio here. You seem to have said nothing about the link on the Scammer Therese Neuman? smiley


So why is he finding it hard to speak now?

I wasnt through. i have edited my post. You also seem to be silent about the other miracles.

Now is the season of harvest and those who wish to serve GOD not through signs and wonders but through faith and pure love from the heart. GOD is not looking for those who will worship him becasue HE can do wonders. He is looking for those who will love him genuinely from thier hearts regardless of wether he can perform miracles or not.
Re: Top Ten Astonishing Miracles (warning, Some Graphihc Pics) by kevoh(m): 11:56pm On Aug 09, 2015
5minsmadness:


I wasnt through. i have edited my post. You also seem to be silent about the other miracles.

Ok, I've seen the edited post. You are yet to say anything on the link I provided on Therese Neumann.

Meanwhile, Like I stated in my previous post, you don't need an atheist to engage you in long unnecessary scientific explanation to miracles/apparitions that have either already been debunked or clearly typical acts of delusional beliefs that is rampart with religious folks as in the case of the Miracle of the Sun.

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Re: Top Ten Astonishing Miracles (warning, Some Graphihc Pics) by 5minsmadness: 12:06am On Aug 10, 2015
kevoh:

Ok, I've seen the edited post. You are yet to say anything on the link I provided on Therese Neumann.

Meanwhile, Like I stated in my previous post, you don't need an atheist to engage you in long unnecessary scientific explanation to miracles/apparitions that have either already been debunked or clearly typical acts of delusional beliefs that is rampart with religious folks as in the case of the Miracle of the Sun.
In other words, you have nothing to say grin

I addressed theresa neumann in my second paragraph.
Re: Top Ten Astonishing Miracles (warning, Some Graphihc Pics) by Nobody: 12:13am On Aug 10, 2015
In summary GOD is real...
Re: Top Ten Astonishing Miracles (warning, Some Graphihc Pics) by engrtee(f): 12:14am On Aug 10, 2015
Does this mean catholics are better at miracle than other religion
Re: Top Ten Astonishing Miracles (warning, Some Graphihc Pics) by kevoh(m): 12:14am On Aug 10, 2015
5minsmadness:

In other words, you have nothing to say grin

I addressed theresa neumann in my second paragraph.
Oga you did not address anything. No one/majority conceded to the lies of the fraudster Therese Neuman except of course people like you. The link exposes how religious fanatics can be deceitful to score maximum points for their religious beliefs.

Miracle of Sun

The vision was subjective
The miracle is proven to be a subjective experience by the fact that no observatory noticed any change in the sun that day or a change in its position...Many of the people had umbrellas up. Lucia had told them to put down their brollies before the apparition though it was raining (page 78, The Evidence for Visions of the Vigrin Mary) which shows that she was planning a solar illusion and had touching concern for the old people who could have caught pneumonia. The brollies might have blocked their vision of the sky so they had to go down. It is obvious that not many would have listened to her or even heard her but many would have noticed people taking brollies down and then they would have followed suit. Mc Clure thinks the crowd did not expect to see the sun spinning but they all knew a miracle was promised and I don’t doubt that being asked to put the umbrellas down was an indication that it was time for the miracle. Since the crowd was so large and it was hard to see the apparition site they would have realised that any sign would have to take place in the sky and that most obvious orb in the sky, the sun. The ban on using umbrellas alone would have suggested that. And people were seeing strange things in the sun months before the miracle of the sun (page 76, Fatima In Lucia’s own words). The role of suggestion and emotionalism and imagination in the miracle cannot be underestimated. Lucia was able to trigger many of the people in their highly charged emotional state to imagine seeing the sun spin.


Some of the witnesses must have been liars

It seems that a crowd that could have been between 50,000 and 70,000 were at the Cova and were drenched to the skin (The Thunder of Justice, page 137). It seems they were up to their ankles in mud. But when the crowd endured so much discomfort which would only have brought them ridicule if nothing happened it is clear that they were desperate to convince themselves or their companions that they saw something. At that stage there was no miraculous or scientific proof that the children were telling the truth. Most of the people then had no regard for evidence and would lie or convince themselves they saw something when they saw nothing.

Many people would have said they saw something though they did not. The Virgin had said the miracle was for unbelievers and those who saw nothing might have been accused of being so stubborn in unbelief that doing a miracle to convince them would not work.

Also anybody who defended the miracle of the sun was helping to undermine the brutal atheistic government and would have felt that it was their duty to lie for Portugal and the Church. Though lying was a sin they probably felt that they had no choice but to say what wasn’t true so it wasn’t wilful lying. It was popularly believed that if the miracle failed to happen the children would be lynched (page 54, What Happened at Fatima?) so there was pressure on people to claim that they saw something.



An illusion?

Fr Manuel Pereira da Silva wrote that the sun seemed to have come down to the height of the clouds and began to whirl. The people looked yellow. But if you look up at the sun and pretend you don’t know how high it is it looks as if it is as high as the clouds. And looking at the sun would make it seem to whirl especially when it is a scary thing to look at for we all know what harm it can do to your eyes. The people looked jaundiced because you cannot see colours right if you have just been looking at an excessively bright light.

An account in a newspaper, Ordem, mentioned the sun changing colours and whirling. That can be explained by looking at something too bright for you. It would do strange things to the eyes. The heat mentioned at the time of the miracle was caused by excitement.

Dr Almeida Garret who witnessed the miracle did not agree with the people who said the sun turned a dull silver. He remarked how the sun could be looked at without pain but sometimes that can be done. It is easy when you are excited and anxious to see the paranormal before your very eyes. If you want to fire walk, you won't even feel the heat when the desire takes over and you parade across the coals. Same effect.



Source :
http://www.miraclesceptic.com/solarmiracle.html

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Re: Top Ten Astonishing Miracles (warning, Some Graphihc Pics) by 5minsmadness: 12:57am On Aug 10, 2015
The role of suggestion and emotionalism and imagination in the miracle cannot be underestimated. Lucia was able to trigger many of the people in their highly charged emotional state to imagine seeing the sun spin.
grin

But when the crowd endured so much discomfort which would only have brought them ridicule if nothing happened it is clear that they were desperate to convince themselves or their companions that they saw something. At that stage there was no miraculous or scientific proof that the children were telling the truth. Most of the people then had no regard for evidence and would lie or convince themselves they saw something when they saw nothing.
grin grin

Also anybody who defended the miracle of the sun was helping to undermine the brutal atheistic government and would have felt that it was their duty to lie for Portugal and the Church.

grin grin grin

An account in a newspaper, Ordem, mentioned the sun changing colours and whirling. That can be explained by looking at something too bright for you. It would do strange things to the eyes.
And nobody became blind from looking at the sun that long grin grin grin grin

It is easy when you are excited and anxious to see the paranormal
grin grin grin grin grin

Very good logical explanations! All done to try to explain the unexplainable! So now all 50,000 to 70,000 people were under pressure to protect the children, even the lynchers! So all the people that came, EVEN THE SCEPTICS suddenly fell under "mass hysteria"? Maybe you would have done the same, yes? The mind can play tricks, there's no way what happened that day was real.

Whatever makes you feel secure bro grin

I'm sure you have a logical explanation for a placebo; Can you explain that one as well? grin

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Re: Top Ten Astonishing Miracles (warning, Some Graphihc Pics) by kevoh(m): 1:05am On Aug 10, 2015
5minsmadness:

I'm sure you have a logical explanation for a placebo; Can you explain that one as well? grin

Ok, now I know you are just fooling around. Good night!
Re: Top Ten Astonishing Miracles (warning, Some Graphihc Pics) by brocab: 1:33am On Aug 23, 2015
Only God rises people from the dead.
But it seems the Roman Catholic Church have their own idea's when raising the dead bodies from the grave, who's corrupted and who's not corrupted. How can they tell. As Jesus said: let the dead bury the dead.

Below it shows the story of the 3 Children who had claimed they had seen the Virgin Mary, while others who were standing behind them, could only witness they had seen the Sun.
But as the story continual's, the on-lookers were waiting for a sign from heaven while supporting the Children every 13th day of the month.
The theory is the Children had seen Mary, coming in as a bright light-hardly seeing her' the children claimed Mary had given them 3 secrets, and it was the year of 2000 the last of the secrets was supposedly revealed to the Pope in that year.
As we read the story-not all three Children had seen the Virgin Mary in the light-and not all three Children had heard Mary speak, one Child spoke the other stood and watched, while the other was puzzled-over this hole ordeal.
It seems a story like this had brought the town people together, causing the people to believe, I always say if one can speak a good yarn, and someone believes-from one story to another' how far can that yarn go.
What a amazing story that brought the neighbouring towns together, and still to this day people from all over the world have made their way to this place of worship.
Placing millions of hard earned cash-over to the authorities, who have kept this legion going..


The Children claimed to everybody the Virgin Mary said: the Children will see heaven, the question I would like to ask who was it who told the young boy to recite the rosaries. His cousins? And why the rosaries-we can see this story belongs to the Catholic's. And no-other.
When reading this story the young boy couldn't see Mary or hear Mary's voise. So I ask-who told him?
So the theory that these three Children witnessed that they all saw Mary isn't true.
Can anyone explain to me, why then did they call this theory the Miracle of the Sun. and not the Miracle of Mary.

The story go's on to say-the Children received their encounters with Mary who supposedly had shown them three secrets, and these secrets weren't told directly at the time, the last secret was told in the year of 2000-after everything had past.
With only the Children who had claimed they saw Mary-none other could see past the Sun which was shining on each 13th day of the month.
So this theory proves these people in this story was waiting for that sign from heaven, not the virgin Mary.
John 4:48 "Unless you people see signs and wonders, Jesus told him you will never believe.

I believe in miracles, but this story is far fetch. People other then the Children had described their experiences in many different ways, When I think about it-looking into the Sun on a clear day-in seconds I am blinded by it, but looking into the Sun on a cold cloudy day-when the sky is grey-my vision into the Sun reflects colours, shinning ray's in all directions, and of course it shows petals showering down disintegrating before it hits the ground.
This was the description, given by the on-lookers, who stood behind the Children.

Its hard to believe Mary had come to them' in a way only two out of the three, could see or understand Mary speaking.
And the story clearly states, three Children witnessed this theory.

Not even the Lord came to His disciples as a bright light-He came in flesh and blood, so all may believe-He is the Christ.. Don't believe everything you hear, unless it's scriptural.
5minsmadness:
Whether you believe in miracles or not, there is an enormous amount of documentation for seemingly inexplicable events over the centuries that many people believe to be the work of God Himself. In this list I have tried to pick the ten most interesting of these cases.

For obvious reasons (lack of verification), this list does not include any tele-evangelist “faith healers”.

10. Marian Apparition in Zeitoun 1968 – 1970

Probably the most famous of the marian apparitions, these were the visions of St Bernadette at Lourdes (related item 6 on this list), and three children in Fatima (related item 1 on this list). In both cases, the people involved said that the Virgin Mary gave them predictions of future events and preached prayer and penance. The famous case of Our Lady of Zeitoun took place in Zeitoun, Cairo, and contrary to the norm, the apparition was witnessed by millions of people over a period of 2 to 3 years. The apparition was even caught on film (as seen in the photograph above). The Coptic Orthodox Pope of Alexandria in Cairo issued a statement that the apparitions were real. The Catholic Church has yet to issue an official statement. You can view video footage here.http://www.zeitun-eg.org/zeitoun1.rm

9. Incorruptible Corpses

Incorruptibility is the name given to the situation in which a dead person does not decay after death. The orthodox church consider it essential in considering a person for canonization as a saint, and the Roman Catholic Church consider it as sign of sainthood but not a necessity. Additionally, the Catholic Church believes that a body is not deemed incorruptible if it has undergone an embalming process or other means of preserving the dead, or if it has become stiff, as do all normal corpses, even when the best preservation techniques are used. Incorruptible saints remain completely flexible, as if they were only sleeping. Incorruptible bodies are often said to have the Odour of Sanctity, exuding a sweet aroma. Over the years there have been hundreds of Saints whose bodies have been found to be incorrupt – some many hundreds of years after their death. In the image above we see St Bernadette as she appears today – 129 years after her death. For more astonishing pictures of incorruptible corpses (including the incorrupt body of St Silvan who died over 1,500 years ago), visit the Top 10 Incorrupt Corpses.http://listverse.com/2007/08/21/top-10-incorrupt-corpses/

8. Therese Neumann 1896 – 1962

Therese Neumann was a German Catholic mystic and stigmatic. On March 10, 1918, Therese Neumann was partially paralyzed after falling off a stool while attending to a fire in her uncle’s barn. She sustained more falls and injuries during this period. After one particular fall in 1919, she lost much of her eyesight. Therese reported that her eyesight was fully restored on April 29, 1923 — the day Therese of Lisieux was beatified (the first step to sainthood) in Rome. She said that on March 5, 1926, the first Friday of Lent, a wound had appeared slightly above her heart, but that she had kept this secret. However, she did report a vision of Jesus at Mount Olivet with three Apostles. On Easter Sunday, she claimed a vision of the resurrection of Christ. For several consecutive Fridays after that, she stated she was experiencing the Passion of Christ, supposedly suffering in her own body along with all his historic agonies. She especially suffered the Passion on Good Fridays each year. By November 5, 1926, she displayed nine wounds on her head as well as wounds on her back and shoulders (most of which are visible in the image above). According to several sources these wounds never healed or became infected and were found on her body at death. From the years of 1922 until her death in 1962, Therese Neumann said she had consumed no food other than The Holy Eucharist, and to have drunk no water from 1926 until her death. In July 1927 a medical doctor and four Franciscan nurses kept a watch on her 24 hours a day for a two-week period. They confirmed that she had consumed nothing except for one consecrated sacred Host a day, and had suffered no ill effects, loss of weight, or dehydration. Formal proceedings for her beatification were begun in 2005.

7. Statue in Akita 1973 – 1975

In 1973, Sister Agnes Katsuko Sasagawa in Akita, Japan had visions of the Virgin Mary. On June 28, 1973, a cross-shaped wound appeared on the inside left hand of Sr. Agnes. It bled profusely and caused her much pain. On July 6, Sr. Agnes heard a voice coming from the statue of the Blessed Virgin Mary in the chapel where she was praying. The statue was carved from a single block of wood from a Katsura tree and is three feet tall. On the same day, a few of the sisters noticed drops of blood flowing from the statue’s right hand. The wound in the statue’s hand remained until September 29, when it disappeared. On September 29, the day the wound on the statue disappeared, the sisters noticed the statue had now begun to “sweat”, especially on the forehead and neck. Two years later on January 4, 1975, the statue of the Blessed Virgin began to weep. It continued to weep at intervals for the next 6 years and eight months. It wept on 101 occasions. Scientific analysis of blood and tears from the statute provided by Professor Sagisaka of the faculty of Legal Medicine of the University of Akita confirmed that the blood, tears, and perspiration are real human tears, sweat, and blood. They come from three blood groups: O, B, and AB. Sr. Agnes was also completely cured of total deafness. In June 1988, Cardinal Ratzinger (now Pope Benedict XVI) – head of the Office of Inquisition – judged the Akita events and messages as reliable and worthy of belief.

6. Lourdes 1858

The apparitions of Our Lady of Lourdes began on 11 February 1858, when Bernadette Soubirous, a 14-year old peasant girl from Lourdes admitted, when questioned by her mother, that she had seen a “lady” in the cave of Massabielle, about a mile from the town, while she was gathering firewood with her sister and a friend. Similar appearances of the “lady” took place on seventeen further occasions that year. During one of the apparitions, she was directed by the “lady” to dig near a rock and drink from the spring there – there was a small puddle of mud in the place but as Bernadette dug in to it, a large spring appeared – this is the source of the water in the grotto to which millions of people flock for miraculous cures every year. The Lourdes Medical Bureau have declared 68 cases of inexplicable cures (out of thousands tested).You can read more on the scientific bureau here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lourdes_Medical_Bureau#Notable_cases

5 .Joseph of Cupertino 1603 – 1663

Joseph of Cupertino is an Italian saint. He was said to have been remarkably unclever, but prone to miraculous levitation, and intense ecstatic visions that left him gaping. In turn, he is recognized as the patron saint of air travelers, aviators, people with a mental handicap, and weak students. He was canonized in 1767. On October 4, 1630, the town of Cupertino held a procession on the feast day of Saint Francis of Assisi. Joseph was assisting in the procession when he suddenly soared into the sky, where he remained hovering over the crowd. When he descended and realized what had happened, he became so embarrassed that he fled to his mother’s house and hid. This was the first of many flights, which soon earned him the nickname “The Flying Saint.” Joseph’s most famous flight allegedly occurred during a papal audience before Pope Urban VIII. When he bent down to kiss the Pope’s feet, he was suddenly filled with reverence for the Pope, and was lifted up into the air. He experienced ecstasies and flights (witnessed by thousands) during his last mass which was on the Feast of the Assumption 1663. Apple Inc.’s headquarters are in the California town of Cupertino, which was named after this saint

4 Tilma of Juan Diego 1474 – 1548


Saint Juan Diego Cuauhtlatoatzin was an indigenous Mexican who reported an apparition of the Virgin Mary as Our Lady of Guadalupe in 1531. He had a significant impact on the spread of the Catholic faith within Mexico. According to Juan Diego, he returned home that night to his uncle Juan Bernardino’s house, and discovered him seriously ill. The next morning December 12, Juan Diego decided not to meet with the Lady, but to find a priest who could administer the last rites to his dying uncle. When he tried to skirt around Tepeyac hill, the Lady intercepted him, assured him his uncle would not die, and asked him to climb the hill and gather the flowers he found there. It was December, when normally nothing blooms in the cold. There he found roses from the region of Castille in Spain, former home of bishop Zumárraga. The Lady re-arranged the roses carefully inside the folded tilma that Juan Diego wore and told him not to open it before anyone but the bishop. When Juan Diego unfolded his tilma before the Bishop roses cascaded from his tilma, and an icon of Our Lady of Guadalupe was miraculously impressed on the cloth, bringing the bishop to his knees. The bishop acknowledged the miracle and within two weeks, ordered a shrine to be built where the Virgin Mary had appeared. The original tilma (pictured above) is on display in Guadalupe today and is one of the most frequently visited pilgrimage sites in the world

3 Padre Pio (St Pio of Pietrelcina) 1887 – 1968

Francesco Forgione, later known as Padre Pio, canonized as Saint Pio of Pietrelcina, was an Italian Roman Catholic Capuchin priest who is now venerated as a saint in the Roman Catholic Church. He was given the name Pio when he joined the Order of Friars Minor Capuchin, and was popularly known as Padre Pio after his ordination to the priesthood. He became famous for his stigmata. Based on Padre Pio’s correspondence, even early in his priesthood he experienced less obvious indications of the visible stigmata for which he would later become famous. Though Padre Pio would have preferred to suffer in secret, by early 1919, news about the stigmatic friar began to spread in the secular world. Padre Pio’s wounds were examined by many people, including physicians. People who had started rebuilding their lives after World War I began to see in Padre Pio a symbol of hope. Those close to him attest that he began to manifest several spiritual gifts including the gifts of healing, bilocation, levitation, prophecy, miracles, extraordinary abstinence from both sleep and nourishment (One account states that Padre Agostino recorded one instance in which Padre Pio was able to subsist for at least 20 days at Verafeno on only the Eucharist without any other nourishment), the ability to read hearts, the gift of tongues, the gift of conversions, and the fragrance from his wounds. You can see his hands concealed by fingerless gloves to hide his stigmata. You may also be interested in this clip in which St Pio’s grave and coffin are opened (on March 3, 2008) revealing that his body is incorrupt. His body is now on display in San Giovanni Rotondo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaQKQORjhbg&feature=related

2 The Miracle of Lanciano 700 AD


In the city of Lanciano, Italy, around A.D. 700, a Basilian monk and priest was assigned to celebrate the Eucharistic sacrifice in the Latin Rite in the small Church of St.Legontian. Usually celebrating in the Greek Rite and using leavened bread and having been taught that unleavened bread was invalid matter for the Holy Sacrifice he was disturbed to be constrained to use unleavened bread and had trouble believing that the miracle of transubtantiation would take place with unleavened bread. During the Mass, when he said the words of consecration, he saw the bread change into live flesh and the wine change into live blood, which coagulated into five globules, irregular and differing in shape and size. Various ecclesiastical investigations have been conducted upon the miracle, and the evidence of the miracle remains in Lanciano to this day. In 1970-71, Professors from the University of Siena conducted a scientific investigation into the miracle. They concluded that the flesh and blood are human flesh and blood. The Flesh is a heart complete in its essential structure. The Flesh and the Blood have the same blood type, AB, which is also the same blood type found on the Shroud of Turin and all other Eucharistic Miracles. The Host-Flesh, which is the same size as the large Host used today in the Latin Church, is fibrous and light brown in color, and becomes rose-colored when lighted from the back. The Blood consists of five coagulated globules and has an earthly color resembling the yellow of ochre.

1. The Miracle of the Sun

The Miracle of the Sun is an alleged miraculous event witnessed by as many as 100,000 people on 13 October 1917 in the Cova da Iria fields near Fátima, Portugal. Those in attendance had assembled to observe what the Portuguese secular newspapers had been ridiculing for months as the absurd claim of three shepherd children that a miracle was going to occur at high-noon in the Cova da Iria on October 13, 1917. According to many witness statements, after a downfall of rain, the dark clouds broke and the sun appeared as an opaque, spinning disk in the sky. It was said to be significantly less bright than normal, and cast multicolored lights across the landscape, the shadows on the landscape, the people, and the surrounding clouds. The sun was then reported to have careened towards the earth in a zigzag pattern, frightening some of those present who thought it meant the end of the world. Some witnesses reported that their previously wet clothes became “suddenly and completely dry.” Estimates of the number of witnesses range from 30,000-40,000 by Avelino de Almeida, writing for the Portuguese newspaper O Século, to 100,000, estimated by Dr. Joseph Garrett, professor of natural sciences at the University of Coimbra, both of whom were present that day. The miracle was attributed by believers to Our Lady of Fátima, an apparition of the Blessed Virgin Mary to three young shepherd children in 1917, as having been predicted by the three children on 13 July, 19 August, and 13 September 1917. The children reported that the Lady had promised them that she would on 13 October reveal her identity to them and provide a miracle “so that all may believe.” The event was officially accepted as a miracle by the Roman Catholic Church on 13 October 1930. In the image above you can see some of the many witnesses photographed during the event.




http://listverse.com/2008/07/14/top-10-astonishing-miracles/
Re: Top Ten Astonishing Miracles (warning, Some Graphihc Pics) by bluntspade: 4:41am On Aug 23, 2015
Why are they seeing only Virgin Mary. I don't believe in Catholic but i believe in miracles.
Re: Top Ten Astonishing Miracles (warning, Some Graphihc Pics) by Nobody: 4:56am On Aug 23, 2015
So this is proof God has an earth mother who was a virgin?
Re: Top Ten Astonishing Miracles (warning, Some Graphihc Pics) by trapQ: 10:34am On Aug 23, 2015
why bother yourself?? a Thomas will always be a Thomas. the only time they'll believe is when they are in hell but of course it would be too late.
5minsmadness:


I wasnt through. i have edited my post. You also seem to be silent about the other miracles.

Now is the season of harvest and those who wish to serve GOD not through signs and wonders but through faith and pure love from the heart. GOD is not looking for those who will worship him becasue HE can do wonders. He is looking for those who will love him genuinely from thier hearts regardless of wether he can perform miracles or not.
Re: Top Ten Astonishing Miracles (warning, Some Graphihc Pics) by brocab: 8:01am On Aug 24, 2015
And who gives you the rights to judge-who will be in Hell. Maybe you should study the word yourself, and then come back and judge by their fruits.
trapQ:
why bother yourself?? a Thomas will always be a Thomas. the only time they'll believe is when they are in hell but of course it would be too late.
Re: Top Ten Astonishing Miracles (warning, Some Graphihc Pics) by trapQ: 10:59pm On Aug 24, 2015
I never said you'll go to hell or did you not comprehend my post?

it a clearly stated in john 3:16 that JESUS is the only way, so whoever doesn't believe in JESUS will be damned. I'm not judging, only stating an obvious fact. I never judge people. God is the judge.
brocab:
And who gives you the rights to judge-who will be in Hell. Maybe you should study the word yourself, and then come back and judge by their fruits.
Re: Top Ten Astonishing Miracles (warning, Some Graphihc Pics) by brocab: 11:18pm On Aug 24, 2015
Then by your Quote>whom are you preferring too?
trapQ:
why bother yourself?? a Thomas will always be a Thomas. the only time they'll believe is when they are in hell but of course it would be too late.
Re: Top Ten Astonishing Miracles (warning, Some Graphihc Pics) by trapQ: 11:46pm On Aug 24, 2015
you still dont understand. I used "they" meaning that those who do not believed in JESUS "according to the scriptures" will end IP in hell. and mind you, not everyone who believes will go to heaven too. you have to believe and be Christ like.
brocab:
Then by your Quote>whom are you preferring too?

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