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Re: Before Another Biafra Pogrom.. Read This by kernel501: 7:24pm On Aug 20, 2015
splashbaby:
Doesn't make any sense.
Then go back to school.
Re: Before Another Biafra Pogrom.. Read This by splashbaby(m): 10:52pm On Aug 20, 2015
kernel501:

Then go back to school.
Sorry for you... You are deeply lost in what I describe as "intellectual abyss"
Re: Before Another Biafra Pogrom.. Read This by T8ksy(m): 12:12am On Aug 21, 2015
zendy:
My father was a Captain in the Biafran Army. He still says it to this day that the biggest reason why Biafra lost the war was British support for Nigeria. Had Britain remained neutral, Biafra would have won. It was British Warships that blockaded Biafra not only preventing the importation of Arms, ammunition, food and essential supplies, but also stopped the export of oil that would have gone a long way to adequately finance the war effort. The air cargo flights into Uli airport were not only very expensive, they were also inadequate. I believe that had the international community stayed out of the war, Gowon would have just been fighting until the fruitlessness of fighting would have dawned oh him and he would given up


Then, permit me to say this; your dad is a d.a.m.n horrible liar!

The moment ojukwu decided to embark on his stu.P.id land-grabbing-cum-liberation adventure, his mission was doomed to fail but then ojukwu

had bigger fish (than biafra) in mind when he started his ego-driven struggle. Even if he had managed to get to Lagos, his case would have

been like that of a hen (BLF) who decided (of all places) to have his siesta on a washing line (Mid-west and Yorubaland)- neither he nor the

washing line will see peace and tranquility until the hen finally had enough and eventually find somewhere else to lay his weary head but

meanwhile much more lives would have being lost than we actually experienced with a more lasting and irreparable damage done to our inter-

ethnic interactions.

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Re: Before Another Biafra Pogrom.. Read This by Nobody: 12:18am On Aug 21, 2015
Igbos giving everyone sleepless nights LOL
Even oyibo man described Igbos as "almost white" . Wahala dey grin grin grin

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Re: Before Another Biafra Pogrom.. Read This by cupidFlint(m): 1:08am On Aug 21, 2015
kernel501:
How did you win when your conquest is better off in almost every sphere again? Thank God Oil price has dropped again to $35 per barrel.
Bros no vez, dollar done drop?
Re: Before Another Biafra Pogrom.. Read This by vicadex07(m): 4:14am On Aug 21, 2015
Wow...expository...and to even think those shouting biafra today has still not being able to surmount those huge challenges that lead to their defeat back then before even thinking about another bloody secession, leaves a question mark on the average intelligence of an Igboman...
Re: Before Another Biafra Pogrom.. Read This by zendy: 7:44am On Aug 21, 2015
T8ksy:



Then, permit me to say this; your dad is a d.a.m.n horrible liar!

The moment ojukwu decided to embark on his stu.P.id land-grabbing-cum-liberation adventure, his mission was doomed to fail but then ojukwu

had bigger fish (than biafra) in mind when he started his ego-driven struggle. Even if he had managed to get to Lagos, his case would have

been like that of a hen (BLF) who decided (of all places) to have his siesta on a washing line (Mid-west and Yorubaland)- neither he nor the

washing line will see peace and tranquility until the hen finally had enough and eventually find somewhere else to lay his weary head but

meanwhile much more lives would have being lost than we actually experienced with a more lasting and irreparable damage done to our inter-

ethnic interactions.



You took the time to write this but couldn't come with one reason why Biafra would not have triumphed if Britain had not blockaded Biafra. Just how would the Nigerian Army have defeated Biafra if Ojukwu had had the opportunity to bring in enough weaponry, food and other essential supplies to match what Gowon had? You talk about about Ojukwus incursion into the west towards Lagos. Ojukwu was well within his rights to invade anywhere in Nigeria including Lagos. Infact, I read somewhere that when the Biafran forces got to Ore, Gowon started making contingent plans about how to escape. Many still believe that had that Biafran force under Banjo got to Lagos, the war would have had a very different outcome. It's quite possible that Banjo might have have become the first president of Odua Republic and the Yorubas would not be a$$-lickers of the North which they are today in the name of the fraud called "One Nigeria"
Re: Before Another Biafra Pogrom.. Read This by splashbaby(m): 8:18pm On Aug 21, 2015
zendy:




You took the time to write this but couldn't come with one reason why Biafra would not have triumphed if Britain had not blockaded Biafra. Just how would the Nigerian Army have defeated Biafra if Ojukwu had had the opportunity to bring in enough weaponry, food and other essential supplies to match what Gowon had? You talk about about Ojukwus incursion into the west towards Lagos. Ojukwu was well within his rights to invade anywhere in Nigeria including Lagos. Infact, I read somewhere that when the Biafran forces got to Ore, Gowon started making contingent plans about how to escape. Many still believe that had that Biafran force under Banjo got to Lagos, the war would have had a very different outcome. It's quite possible that Banjo might have have become the first president of Odua Republic and the Yorubas would not be a$$-lickers of the North which they are today in the name of the fraud called "One Nigeria"

Very funny... Full of apathetic mudslinging.
Re: Before Another Biafra Pogrom.. Read This by nochildsplay(m): 8:57pm On Aug 21, 2015
Amazing facts about the igbo people in our Nigeria

these facts have been verified and confirmed by different sources

1.All igbo girls usually have YAM leg

2.A serious igbo man can sell his fathers property for a keg of fresh palm wine

3.Most igbo ladies are very hairy,igbo girls ladies can have hair under their chin,on their chest and on their palm.

4.igbo men have shops all over nigeria,even in the north,but still claim notherners are invading their land

5.IGBO people go to church,few go to mosque but still practice traditional religion

6.most Igbo jidenna fans dont even know what he is saying in his songs

7.igbo people can do anything to save themselves when they are accused of theft(onyeka nwenu)

8, Biafra movement is another Boko Haram in igbo version cos they seek mayhem and blood shed

9, 95% of wealthy igbos in Lagos state (idumota axis) na ritualist cos 1 igbo man must be buried weekly

10.. They claim they are not Nigerians but still sings ours National Athem with us at every occassion
Re: Before Another Biafra Pogrom.. Read This by T9ksy(m): 11:04pm On Aug 21, 2015
zendy:




You took the time to write this but couldn't come with one reason why Biafra would not have triumphed if Britain had not blockaded Biafra. Just how would the Nigerian Army have defeated Biafra if Ojukwu had had the opportunity to bring in enough weaponry, food and other essential supplies to match what Gowon had? You talk about about Ojukwus incursion into the west towards Lagos. Ojukwu was well within his rights to invade anywhere in Nigeria including Lagos. Infact, I read somewhere that when the Biafran forces got to Ore, Gowon started making contingent plans about how to escape. Many still believe that had that Biafran force under Banjo got to Lagos, the war would have had a very different outcome. It's quite possible that Banjo might have have become the first president of Odua Republic and the Yorubas would not be a$$-lickers of the North which they are today in the name of the fraud called "One Nigeria"



Ol boy, trust me ojukwu’s plan for odua republic is just highly repugnant to the yorubas that all the weaponry in the world would not suffice for ojukwu to determine what goes on in yorubaland.

Yep just as the yorubas too are well within their rights to jump off the fence and fight for the territorial integrity of the homeland. However, you mischievous souls termed it as the yorubas joining their northern masters to kill you ibos.

And so? That was ojukwu’s fall-back plan as it’s obvious that the northerners would not lay their precious lives on the line to defend yorubaland. Ojukwu initially thought he could stage-manage the yorubas into a suicidal uprising against the northern Nigerian soldiers stationed in the region but when yorubas failed to swallow his bait, he decided to make an audacious surprise offensive for Lagos.

By “many”, I guess you mean, biafrans? oh well, more fools them, then. They are free to believe whatever gives them a Ha.rd-on.

IMPOSSICANT!!! Not if he’s is going to be teleguided by ojukwu from enugu.

And why I wonder , are you so concerned with whose arse the yorubas opt to kiss? The fact of the matter here is, the yorubas do not want to kiss your dirty flattie’s arse. Btw, whose arse are the ibos kissing, currently?

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Re: Before Another Biafra Pogrom.. Read This by splashbaby(m): 8:58am On Aug 23, 2015
nochildsplay:
Amazing facts about the igbo people in our Nigeria

these facts have been verified and confirmed by different sources

1.All igbo girls usually have YAM leg

2.A serious igbo man can sell his fathers property for a keg of fresh palm wine

3.Most igbo ladies are very hairy,igbo girls ladies can have hair under their chin,on their chest and on their palm.

4.igbo men have shops all over nigeria,even in the north,but still claim notherners are invading their land

5.IGBO people go to church,few go to mosque but still practice traditional religion

6.most Igbo jidenna fans dont even know what he is saying in his songs

7.igbo people can do anything to save themselves when they are accused of theft(onyeka nwenu)

8, Biafra movement is another Boko Haram in igbo version cos they seek mayhem and blood shed

9, 95% of wealthy igbos in Lagos state (idumota axis) na ritualist cos 1 igbo man must be buried weekly

10.. They claim they are not Nigerians but still sings ours National Athem with us at every occassion
nochildsplay for real.
Re: Before Another Biafra Pogrom.. Read This by zendy: 12:38pm On Aug 24, 2015
T9ksy:



Ol boy, trust me ojukwu’s plan for odua republic is just highly repugnant to the yorubas that all the weaponry in the world would not suffice for ojukwu to determine what goes on in yorubaland.

Yep just as the yorubas too are well within their rights to jump off the fence and fight for the territorial integrity of the homeland. However, you mischievous souls termed it as the yorubas joining their northern masters to kill you ibos.

And so? That was ojukwu’s fall-back plan as it’s obvious that the northerners would not lay their precious lives on the line to defend yorubaland. Ojukwu initially thought he could stage-manage the yorubas into a suicidal uprising against the northern Nigerian soldiers stationed in the region but when yorubas failed to swallow his bait, he decided to make an audacious surprise offensive for Lagos.

By “many”, I guess you mean, biafrans? oh well, more fools them, then. They are free to believe whatever gives them a Ha.rd-on.

IMPOSSICANT!!! Not if he’s is going to be teleguided by ojukwu from enugu.

And why I wonder , are you so concerned with whose arse the yorubas opt to kiss? The fact of the matter here is, the yorubas do not want to kiss your dirty flattie’s arse. Btw, whose arse are the ibos kissing, currently?


There seems to be this erroneous belief amongst Yorubas that Ojukwu was interested in Yoruba land. The only thing Ojukwu was interested in was Lagos which was at that time, a separately administered capital territory from the 4 regions.
Re: Before Another Biafra Pogrom.. Read This by Nobody: 1:29pm On Aug 24, 2015
splashbaby:
nochildsplay for real.

grin grin grin grin.... Northerners are at ease with Biafra the reason Buhari cannot do anything about Radio Biafra, they are also using their own Local radio to sensitize their ppl. Boko haram( coverted Northern militia) are already claiming territories that they will defend..., Fear kill faster brother, You ppl are doomedshocked shocked shocked Run nigga Run grin grin grin.... the earlier you Yorubas support biafra the better for South West, Last time we were moving from east to Lagos , but now ppl that will do the damage are being trained in lagos, when they destroy Lagos they will come home and allow Northerners through BOKO HARAM to complete the Colonization of the whole South West they stopped at Kwara state . this is a secret cool
Re: Before Another Biafra Pogrom.. Read This by nochildsplay(m): 1:40pm On Aug 24, 2015
CHESSBOARD:


grin grin grin grin.... Northerners are at ease with Biafra the reason Buhari cannot do anything about Radio Biafra, they are also using their own Local radio to sensitize their ppl. Boko haram( coverted Northern militia) are already claiming territories that they will defend..., Fear kill faster brother, You ppl are doomedshocked shocked shocked Run nigga Run grin grin grin.... the earlier you Yorubas support biafra the better for South West, Last time we were moving from east to Lagos , but now ppl that will do the damage are being trained in lagos, when they destroy Lagos they will come home and allow Northerners through BOKO HARAM to complete the Colonization of the whole South West they stopped at Kwara state . this is a secret cool
when the war start ........ Lemme sight you in from
Re: Before Another Biafra Pogrom.. Read This by splashbaby(m): 2:41pm On Aug 24, 2015
CHESSBOARD:


grin grin grin grin.... Northerners are at ease with Biafra the reason Buhari cannot do anything about Radio Biafra, they are also using their own Local radio to sensitize their ppl. Boko haram( coverted Northern militia) are already claiming territories that they will defend..., Fear kill faster brother, You ppl are doomedshocked shocked shocked Run nigga Run grin grin grin.... the earlier you Yorubas support biafra the better for South West, Last time we were moving from east to Lagos , but now ppl that will do the damage are being trained in lagos, when they destroy Lagos they will come home and allow Northerners through BOKO HARAM to complete the Colonization of the whole South West they stopped at Kwara state . this is a secret cool
There is no way Yorubas will ever support Biafra... It's a dead project. May be Biafra needs Yoruba to survive in their meaningless desire to foment unwarranted aggression against the Nigerian state.

If Igbos are smart like they claim, this is not the time for war. They should instead develop a thriving macro economy network controlled by the igbos located in the heart of their region, which will be self reliance that the Nigeria state will depend on... North East are not known for producing any food crops that is in hot demand anywhere in Nigeria. I stand to be corrected though.

If you guys keep doing all these by mouth without evidence of an independent state that can sustain itself outside the Nigerian state after a break up or withstand the fire power of Nigeria ...I don't mean printing one useless currency as money, or giving out Biafra traveling documents as passport... I mean real economy... Not oporoko or okrika selling economy.... Not adulterated drug empire or fake designer clothes making and retailing....

Not voodoo economy once practiced by your scanty-cloth hair tying Havard Fraudster called Iweala that mislead the gullible fedora wearing clueless ex president.

Without good planning your over zealous leaders will be leading you all blind Biafrans to the slaughter house manned by the Nigerian army once again. Your fore fathers are famous for losing the battle they start...
Re: Before Another Biafra Pogrom.. Read This by laudate: 8:36pm On Aug 24, 2015
zendy:
My father was a Captain in the Biafran Army. He still says it to this day that the biggest reason why Biafra lost the war was British support for Nigeria. Had Britain remained neutral, Biafra would have won. It was British Warships that blockaded Biafra not only preventing the importation of Arms, ammunition, food and essential supplies, but also stopped the export of oil that would have gone a long way to adequately finance the war effort. The air cargo flights into Uli airport were not only very expensive, they were also inadequate. I believe that had the international community stayed out of the war, Gowon would have just been fighting until the fruitlessness of fighting would have dawned oh him and he would given up

Please listen to other people's perspective on that civil war. sad

Ojukwu did not contribute a penny to the drilling of oil in the Eastern region by Shell.

In fact, despite the existence of signed, sealed contracts between the Nigerian govt and Shell, he wanted to corner all the money from the oil fields for himself. That was when Gowon quickly instituted the police action against the Eastern region, hoping Ojukwu would have a re-think. undecided Instead he became recalcitrant.

Secondly, whose fault was it that Ojukwu did not strategise appropriately and lacked enough weapons to go to war? Was it the fault of the Nigerian govt that he declared war against? How many people go to war without counting the cost?? shocked How could he NOT have anticipated that there would be a blockade??! In war, you strategise and prepare for every eventuality. Does he think the Nigerian govt would have left the sea port open for him to receive arms and ammunition to defeat them? Compare what happened in Biafra with the Falklands war. There was also a blockade. undecided

Decree 8 was promulgated which gave Ojukwu more than 80% of what was agreed at Aburi but he turned it down! For goodness sake, if he had taken that option he would have prevented the carnage that occurred in Biafra, and lives that were lost would have been spared!! cry cry
Re: Before Another Biafra Pogrom.. Read This by Nobody: 10:31pm On Aug 24, 2015
laudate:


Please listen to other people's perspective on that civil war. sad

Ojukwu did not contribute a penny to the drilling of oil in the Eastern region by Shell.

In fact, despite the existence of signed, sealed contracts between the Nigerian govt and Shell, he wanted to corner all the money from the oil fields for himself. That was when Gowon quickly instituted the police action against the Eastern region, hoping Ojukwu would have a re-think. undecided Instead he became recalcitrant.

Secondly, whose fault was it that Ojukwu did not strategise appropriately and lacked enough weapons to go to war? Was it the fault of the Nigerian govt that he declared war against? How many people go to war without counting the cost?? shocked How could he NOT have anticipated that there would be a blockade??! In war, you strategise and prepare for every eventuality. Does he think the Nigerian govt would have left the sea port open for him to receive arms and ammunition to defeat them? Compare what happened in Biafra with the Falklands war. There was also a blockade. undecided

Decree 8 was promulgated which gave Ojukwu more than 80% of what was agreed at Aburi but he turned it down! For goodness sake, if he had taken that option he would have prevented the carnage that occurred in Biafra, and lives that were lost would have been spared!! cry cry

I have observed that you mischievously try as much as possible to hide your sentiments and bitterness towards anything that has to do with the Igbos and Biafra wearing a toga of objectivity.

It's time you stopped being unnecessarily bitter about Igbo affairs. Save your energy for your people's progress. Cease displaying your double-faced mien, unsuccessfully defending the atrocious acts of your forebears against the Igbo Nation. Quit muttering gibberish and attempting to deny the genocide you lots committed against the Igbos. 

Ojukwu defended Igbos from ethnic cleansing and you and your folks come here to attempt to cover up your evils. If you're so frustrated with Igbo affairs simply go hang.
Ojukwu will forever remain a legend amongst Igbos regardless of what the same people who were responsible for what Ojukwu stood against thinks.

If you and your lots are sincere you should be talking about restructuring the system or have its inhabitants choose and chart their own destinies. Strange bedfellows are not meant to be together!

It doesn't matter how long it takes, Igbos shall achieve their goals. 

“Karma comes after everyone eventually. You can't get away with screwing people over your whole life, I don't care who you are. What goes around comes around. That's how it works. Sooner or later the universe will serve you the revenge that you deserve.” - Jessica Brody
Re: Before Another Biafra Pogrom.. Read This by T9ksy(m): 11:31pm On Aug 24, 2015
zendy:



There seems to be this erroneous belief amongst Yorubas that Ojukwu was interested in Yoruba land. The only thing Ojukwu was interested in was Lagos which was at that time, a separately administered capital territory from the 4 regions.


Of course, ojukwu was only interested in Lagos and bla bla bla, Geez, can you listen to yourself for a minute? shocked

Ojukwu will have to wade through yorubaland with his BLF causing carnage along his trail to get to lagos never mind the fact that lagos itself is

a yoruba town populated with yorubas. And what happens to the rest of yorubaland once he's taken Lagos? Hand it over to Banjo to administer

by proxy? Quite smart, indeed!

But wasn't ojukwu's (biafran) war supposed to be a war of survival?
Re: Before Another Biafra Pogrom.. Read This by laudate: 1:46am On Aug 25, 2015
xtrorse:


I have observed that you mischievously try as much as possible to hide your sentiments and bitterness towards anything that has to do with the Igbos and Biafra wearing a toga of objectivity.

It's time you stopped being unnecessarily bitter about Igbo affairs. Save your enemy for your people's progress. Cease displaying your double-faced mien, unsuccessfully defending the atrocious acts of your forebears against the Igbo Nation. Quit muttering gibberish and attempting to deny the genocide you lots committed against the Igbos. 

Ojukwu defended Igbos from ethnic cleansing and you and your folks come here to attempt to cover up your evils. If you're so frustrated with Igbo affairs simply go hang.
Ojukwu will forever remain a legend amongst Igbos regardless of what the same people who were responsible for what Ojukwu stood against thinks.

If you and your lots are sincere you should be talking about restructuring the system or have its inhabitants choose and chart their own destinies. Strange bedfellows are not meant to be together!

It doesn't matter how long it takes, Igbos shall achieve their goals. 

“Karma comes after everyone eventually. You can't get away with screwing people over your whole life, I don't care who you are. What goes around comes around. That's how it works. Sooner or later the universe will serve you the revenge that you deserve.” - Jessica Brody

Hehehehe .... bitterness, kwa?? Towards whom? Guy, stop being paranoid. cheesy grin Stop dancing to the drumbeats of confusion in your head, please.

It is not my fault if you cannot deal with the truth. Over 21,000 pages of classified, secret American diplomatic dispatches, have been declassified and released to the public and new untold facts have come to the public domain. undecided

Kindly read the facts here:

Lieutenant Colonel Odumegwu Ojukwu, Biafran leader, had ordered all oil companies to start paying all royalties to Enugu because they were operating in a new country or risk heavy penalties.

Specifically, he demanded a minimum of £2million from Shell-BP. The Federal Government had imposed an economic blockade on Biafra. It entailed barring all merchant vessels and sea tankers from sailing to and from Koko, Warri, Sapele, Escravos, Bonny, Port Harcourt, Calabar ports, which Ojukwu had declared part and parcel of Biafra.

Biafra controlled the land on which the oil installations sat; the Nigerian government controlled the coastal entrance and exit to those lands.

Shell-BP was confused as to whose order should be obeyed. Sir David Hunt, the British High Commissioner to Nigeria, told his American counterpart after the meeting with the Nigerian delegation: “Awolowo is very firmly in control of Ministry of Finance and he is giving Stanley Gray, Shell’s General Manager and other experts from London a very difficult time for the past three days.”

They persuaded Awolowo to accept a deal that would favour the Nigerian government and, at the same time, would predispose oil workers and the £150 million investment to danger in the hands of Biafran military forces.
http://www.pmnewsnigeria.com/2013/02/19/biafra-the-untold-story-of-nigerias-civil-war/

So what part of my post annoys you? Can you kindly provide facts and relevant verifiable data to support your position, instead of being emotional and hysterical? You claim "Ojukwu defended Igbos from ethnic cleansing." Has anyone disputed that fact?

All that is being said, is that the defence could have been done in a bloodless manner without any war, if he had accepted Decree 8 , which effectively turned Nigeria into a confederation and gave Ojukwu over 80% of he requested at Aburi. sad

Go back and study the actual events that transpired during the war. Ojukwu was outnumbered and outgunned. So how did he think he could successfully defend the Biafrans without appropriate arms? Yet he went ahead to launch a war! shocked shocked

Finally, no one is "frustrated with Igbo affairs", to use your own words. It is actually the other way round.

The Igbo are frustrated with Nigeria, and want a way out. No problem. Unfortunately, getting a new country is not done via the internet, or on radio. You need to explore the appropriate ways to make it happen. But if you choose to do so by way of conflict, kindly learn the lessons of the war, so you do not repeat the same mistakes. sad

I hope this resolves your dilemma.

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Re: Before Another Biafra Pogrom.. Read This by pazienza(m): 3:19am On Aug 25, 2015
Never have I seen a worst piece shit pilled together and presented as facts. OP is high on paw paw leaves.
Re: Before Another Biafra Pogrom.. Read This by pazienza(m): 3:20am On Aug 25, 2015
laudate:


Hehehehe .... bitterness, kwa?? Towards whom? Guy, stop being paranoid. cheesy grin Stop dancing to the drumbeats of confusion in your head, please.

It is not my fault if you cannot deal with the truth. Over 21,000 pages of classified, secret American diplomatic dispatches, have been declassified and released to the public and new untold facts have come to the public domain. undecided

Kindly read the facts here:


So what part of my post annoys you? Can you kindly provide facts and relevant verifiable data to support your position, instead of being emotional and hysterical? You claim "Ojukwu defended Igbos from ethnic cleansing." Has anyone disputed that fact?

All that is being said, is that the defence could have been done in a bloodless manner without any war, if he had accepted Decree 8 , which effectively turned Nigeria into a confederation and gave Ojukwu over 80% of he requested at Aburi. sad

Go back and study the actual events that transpired during the war. Ojukwu was outnumbered and outgunned. So how did he think he could successfully defend the Biafrans without appropriate arms? Yet he went ahead to launch a war! shocked shocked

Finally, no one is "frustrated with Igbo affairs", to use your own words. It is actually the other way round.

The Igbo are frustrated with Nigeria, and want a way out. No problem. Unfortunately, getting a new country is not done via the internet, or on radio. You need to explore the appropriate ways to make it happen. But if you choose to do so by way of conflict, kindly learn the lessons of the war, so you do not repeat the same mistakes. sad

I hope this resolves your dilemma.

Which decree 8 are you speaking of again, I thought we resolved the stupidity of the decree last time around?

https://www.nairaland.com/2507143/biafra-did-not-surrender-achuzia/6#36863692

Incase you have forgotten.
Re: Before Another Biafra Pogrom.. Read This by pazienza(m): 3:31am On Aug 25, 2015
"Lieutenant Colonel Odumegwu Ojukwu, Biafran leader, had ordered all oil companies to start paying all royalties to Enugu because they were operating in a new country or risk heavy penalties.

Specifically, he demanded a minimum of £2million from Shell-BP. The Federal Government had imposed an economic blockade on Biafra. It entailed barring all merchant vessels and sea tankers from sailing to and from Koko, Warri, Sapele, Escravos, Bonny, Port Harcourt, Calabar ports, which Ojukwu had declared part and parcel of Biafra.

Biafra controlled the land on which the oil installations sat; the Nigerian government controlled the coastal entrance and exit to those lands.

Shell-BP was confused as to whose order should be obeyed. Sir David Hunt, the British High Commissioner to Nigeria, told his American counterpart after the meeting with the Nigerian delegation: “Awolowo is very firmly in control of Ministry of Finance and he is giving Stanley Gray, Shell’s General Manager and other experts from London a very difficult time for the past three days.”

They persuaded Awolowo to accept a deal that would favour the Nigerian government and, at the same time, would predispose oil workers and the £150 million investment to danger in the hands of Biafran military forces".

Are you by anyway insinuating that Biafra should have allowed Arewa-Odua republic to continue collecting royalties on the crude oil oil resources located in Biafraland?

What exactly is the aim of that your post.
Re: Before Another Biafra Pogrom.. Read This by laudate: 3:37am On Aug 25, 2015
pazienza:
"Lieutenant Colonel Odumegwu Ojukwu, Biafran leader, had ordered all oil companies to start paying all royalties to Enugu because they were operating in a new country or risk heavy penalties.

Specifically, he demanded a minimum of £2million from Shell-BP. The Federal Government had imposed an economic blockade on Biafra. It entailed barring all merchant vessels and sea tankers from sailing to and from Koko, Warri, Sapele, Escravos, Bonny, Port Harcourt, Calabar ports, which Ojukwu had declared part and parcel of Biafra.

Biafra controlled the land on which the oil installations sat; the Nigerian government controlled the coastal entrance and exit to those lands.

Shell-BP was confused as to whose order should be obeyed. Sir David Hunt, the British High Commissioner to Nigeria, told his American counterpart after the meeting with the Nigerian delegation: “Awolowo is very firmly in control of Ministry of Finance and he is giving Stanley Gray, Shell’s General Manager and other experts from London a very difficult time for the past three days.”

They persuaded Awolowo to accept a deal that would favour the Nigerian government and, at the same time, would predispose oil workers and the £150 million investment to danger in the hands of Biafran military forces".

Are you by anyway insinuating that Biafra should have allowed Arewa-Odua republic to continue collecting royalties on the crude oil oil resources located in Biafraland?

What exactly is the aim of that your post.

Read it again with an open mind. You will understand it eventually.
Re: Before Another Biafra Pogrom.. Read This by pazienza(m): 3:39am On Aug 25, 2015
laudate:


Read it again with n open mind. You will understand it eventually.

What is there to understand? The British insisting that Arewa-odua people are their favourites to control the oil wealth of the East?

You will leave your cocoa and tin ore in Arewa-Odua republic, to come and collect royalties in Biafra?

Where on earth is such done?
Re: Before Another Biafra Pogrom.. Read This by laudate: 3:45am On Aug 25, 2015
pazienza:


Which decree 8 are you speaking of again, I thought we resolved the stupidity of the decree last time around?

https://www.nairaland.com/2507143/biafra-did-not-surrender-achuzia/6#36863692

Incase you have forgotten.

What 'stupidity' are you talking about? You and who resolved 'what?' shocked shocked Did I agree anything with you on that thread??

Instead of learning from the facts, references and records presented on that thread, you chose to play the ostrich by seeing only what you wanted to see.

You were the one claiming that 100% of what was agreed in Aburi should have been implemented, even when it was pointed out to you that the decree offered Ojukwu more than 80% of what was agreed, and he should have taken it first. Even if it was just to save his people from carnage of war. undecided You refused to see this point. You are now coming here to say we agreed. Agreed what, biko nu?

Agreements can always be re-negotiated when circumstances change, or the original situation is superceded by events.

That was my point then, and it is still my point now. sad
Re: Before Another Biafra Pogrom.. Read This by laudate: 3:51am On Aug 25, 2015
pazienza:


What is there to understand? The British insisting that Arewa-odua people are their favourites to control the oil wealth of the East?

You will leave your cocoa and tin ore in Arewa-Odua republic, to come and collect loyalties in Biafra?

Where on earth is such done?

The oil wells were vested in the Federal Republic of Nigeria, and were jointly developed with funds contributed by the 3 regions and Shell International. Ojukwu decided to seize everything for himself. Did he offer to pay back what the other regions had invested in the exploration of oil, from inception till the date the war broke out? No. And you expect the FMG or Nigerian govt to close a blind eye to his antics and pat him on the back??! shocked shocked

You find it difficult to comprehend simple things, and I really don't have the inclination now, to repeat myself because you have a biased mindset that is unable to receive the truth.
Re: Before Another Biafra Pogrom.. Read This by pazienza(m): 3:52am On Aug 25, 2015
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were thought to have resulted from the in-
gestion of toxic foods. A Blafran committee
was established which Includes a chemist, a
microbiologist, a pharmacist, a miro-chemi-
cal analyst, and a specialist in forensic medi-
cine. The committee developed routine tech-
niques for checking common foods and cigar-
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powdered milk tested. 10 contained arsenic.
Only 13 of the 3.533 tins of evaporated milk
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Re: Before Another Biafra Pogrom.. Read This by pazienza(m): 4:00am On Aug 25, 2015
laudate:


The oil wells were vested in the Federal Republic of Nigeria, and were jointly developed with funds contributed by the 3 regions and Shell International. Ojukwu decided to seize everything for himself. Did he offer to pay back what the other regions had invested in the exploration of oil, from inception till the date the war broke out? No. And you expect the FMG or Nigerian govt to close a blind eye to his antics and pat him on the back??! shocked shocked

You find it difficult to comprehend simple things, and I really don't have the inclination now, to repeat myself because you have a biased mindset that is unable to receive the truth.

Stop being wise by half. The FG invested no dime in oil exploration, Nigeria ran a regional system of government where each region harvested their natural resources and paid royalty to the FG.

The oil companies having been granted operational licenses by the Eastern region government did the exploration, after exploitation, they take their operational cost and share the proceed with the Eastern region government.

That's what confederation is all about. The Eastern oil wealth, coal mines, Palm oil, belongs to the East, not the entire country, the East were only required to pay royalty to the FG. That's how the system was ran right from inception.

If this isn't what Awo and Gowon was anticipating, what does it say about their stupid Decree 8?
Re: Before Another Biafra Pogrom.. Read This by laudate: 4:04am On Aug 25, 2015
pazienza:


Stop being wise by half. The FG invested no dime in oil exploration, Nigeria ran a regional system of government where each region harvested their natural resources and paid loyalty to the FG.

The oil companies having been granted operational licenses by the Eastern region government did the exploration, after exploitation, they take their operational cost and share the proceed with the Eastern region government.

That's what confederation is all about. The Eastern oil wealth, coal mines, Palm oil, belongs to the East, not the entire country, the East were only required to pay loyalty to the FG.

If this isn't what Awo and Gowon was anticipating, what does it say about their stupid Decree 8?


What is your source? If you are going to make claims in respect of oil exploration, please do so with a modicum of common sense. Like I said, I am not in the mood to repeat myself.

Updated: Prior to the 1969 Petroleum Decree, there was an existing revenue allocation system that divided revenue from oil taxes equally between federal and all state governments/regions. The 1969 decree changed the allocation formula in which the federal government controlled the dispensation of revenues to the states, by giving a larger proportion to the federal govt. So where did you get the idea that only the eastern government benefited from the oil revenue??! shocked
Re: Before Another Biafra Pogrom.. Read This by pazienza(m): 4:09am On Aug 25, 2015
laudate:


What is your source? If you are going to make claims in respect of oil exploration, please do so with a modicum of common sense. Like I said, I am not in the mood to repeat myself.


What source are you looking for? Nigeria ran a regional system of government, each region developed her resources and pay loyalty to the FG. That's the whole essence of regionalism.

That was how the East ran her Coal industry. And the North her tin ore.

Is Crude oil no longer a natural resource?

If Awo and Gowon are seeking for a quasi confederation where the Eastern region oil wealth be turned to free for all, rather than the normal 50-50 derivation formula between the region and the centre, what does it say about they stupid Decree 8?
Re: Before Another Biafra Pogrom.. Read This by pazienza(m): 4:19am On Aug 25, 2015
laudate:


What is your source? If you are going to make claims in respect of oil exploration, please do so with a modicum of common sense. Like I said, I am not in the mood to repeat myself.

Updated: Prior to the 1969 Petroleum Decree, there was an existing revenue allocation system that divided revenue from oil taxes equally between federal and all state governments/regions. The 1969 decree changed the allocation formula in which the federal government controlled the dispensation of revenues to the states, by giving a larger proportion to the federal govt. So where did you get the idea that only the eastern government benefited from the oil revenue??! shocked


Trash, prior to Nzeogwu coup, the existing revenue derivation formula was 50-50 between the region and the FG.
And since we all agreed to return to the state of things before Nzeogwu coup, seeing as Ironsi planned centralization was claimed to be devilish by the Arewa-Odua, why then were Awo and Gowon seeking direct control of Eastern oil wealth, rather than wait for the East to pay them loyalties?

Oil exploration and exploitation cost were bore solely by the oil companies, the FG contributed no dime, the Oil companies simply subtracts the operational cost and share the profit with the government.
Re: Before Another Biafra Pogrom.. Read This by laudate: 4:20am On Aug 25, 2015
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