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Sex And Violence In The Bible by MIZIEYA: 9:14am On Oct 02, 2006
[b]Hello.

The Bible is inundated with sexual and violent imagery from the book of Genesis to Revelation. Christian pornography has a long and illustrious history. During the "burning times" church-commissioned depictions of Hell included blatantly pornographic images, naked men and women for instance, staked to the ground writhing in agony while wild animals devoured their genitals. These images surely mirrored the psycho-sexual tortures perpetrated against the citizenry by the church inquisitors. Graphic visions of Hell continue to dominate the Christian sexual imagination today. The love and grace of Christ is too tame for the jaded, sex-obsessed minds of most Christians.

Beginning in the 70s garish blood-soaked posters extended the Christian pornographic repertoire. Existing as the sole articulation of many Christians' "pro-life" sentiments, their more verbose counterparts managed to describe in gore-saturated detail the atrocities of "partial birth" abortion, Chinese fetus-eating, and abortion-mobiles roaming the countrysides of the Orient brutally ravishing the privates of helpless protesting women. Meticulously detailed violence substitutes for sex, satisfying an ever prurient, yet repressed, audience.

There are no better porn writers than the authors of the Bible. Consider the unbridled eroticism of the Song of Solomon. Or if you want hardcore smut, incest, rape, sexual mutilation, voyeurism, watersports, fornication, adultery, etc., look no further than your family Bible. Christians justify the sex therein as "contextualized" with a "moral message." Wrapping porn in a morality tale is the oldest ploy of smut peddlers. No one reads the endings anyway, but including a moral message salves the conscience of the pious. It's one way to have your, shall we say "cake," and eat it, too.
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Re: Sex And Violence In The Bible by Backslider(m): 9:48am On Oct 02, 2006
@ mizieya,

You are being Short sighted Quote the bible please. I can write same and more jargons I need to back them up.
Re: Sex And Violence In The Bible by MIZIEYA: 9:59am On Oct 02, 2006
Backslider: have you not read the bible? Denial is not healthy.


Sex in the Bible


Genesis
1. "And Adam knew his wife; and she conceived." This is the first sexual intercourse mentioned in the Bible. Of course it resulted in a baby boy. 4:1
2. "And Cain knew his wife." That's nice, but where the hell did she come from? The Bible doesn't mention any of Cain's sisters. Well, maybe he married his mom. In any case, Cain and the mysterious Mrs. Cain have a son (another blue cigar!). His name is Enoch and he builds a city (population 3). 4:17
3. "And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son." Way to go Adam! 4:25
4. "There were giants in the earth in those days." And they had sex with "the daughters of men." 6:4
5. The "just and righteous" Noah (6:9, 7:1) plants a vineyard, gets drunk, and lies around naked in his tent. His son, Ham, happens to see his father in this condition and has sex with him. When Noah sobers up and hears "what his young son had done unto him" he curses not Ham, who "saw the unclothedness of his father," but Ham's son, Canaan. "A servant of servants shall he [Canaan] be unto his brethren." 9:20-25
6. Poor Pharaoh couldn't resist the "very fair" Sarai, and he takes her into his harem. (She must have been well preserved, since she was about seventy years old at the time.) 12:15
7. Sarai is the first of a long line of barren women who were desperate for children. (In the Bible, it is the women who are barren, never the men.) She sends Abram into her handmaid, Hagar, so that she can "obtain children by her." Abram gladly complies. 16:1-4
8. God establishes his covenant with Abram: "This is my covenant , every man child among you shall be circumcised. And ye shall circumcise the flesh of your foreskin." It seems that joysticks are supremely important to god. 17:10-11
9. Lot refuses to give up his angels to the perverted mob, offering his two "virgin daughters" instead. He tells the bunch of angel rapers to "do unto them [his daughters] as is good in your eyes." This is the same man that is called "just" and "righteous" in 2 Pet.2:7-8. 19:8
10. Lot and his daughters camp out in a cave for a while. The daughters get their "just and righteous" father drunk, and have sexual intercourse with him, and each conceives and bears a son (wouldn't you know it!). Just another wholesome family values Bible story. 19:30-38
11. "The Lord visited Sarah" and he "did unto Sarah as he had spoken." And "Sarah conceived and bare Abraham a son." 21:1-2
12. Abraham makes his servant put his hand under his thigh while swearing to God. Weird. Of course "putting his hand under his thigh" is just a polite euphemism for "holding his testicles in his hand." Come to think of it, maybe it isn't so weird at all -- coming as it does from a god that is completely obsessed with male Instruments. (See Ex.4:25, Lev.15:16-18, 32, and Dt.23:1) for just a few examples.) I guess it's sort of like swearing on the bible. 24:2, 24:9
13. "And the damsel was fair to look upon, a virgin, neither had any man known her." (Oh boy!) 24:16
14. Unfortunately the king "looked out a window, and saw, behold, Isaac was sporting with Rebekah his wife." But Isaac grew rich from the lie anyway, just as his father had. 26:8
15. Jacob is tricked by Laban, the father of Rachel and Leah. Jacob asks for Rachel so that he can "go in unto her." But Laban gives him Leah instead, and Jacob "went in unto her [Leah]" by mistake. Jacob was fooled until morning -- apparently he didn't know who he was going in unto. Finally they worked things out and Jacob got to "go in unto" Rachel, too. 29:21-30
16. "Give me children or else I die." Rachel considers herself worthless if she cannot produce children for her husband. But luckily she has an idea. She says to Jacob, "Behold my maid Bilhah, go in unto her." She solved the problem the same way as did Sarah (16:2). "And Jacob went in unto her. And Bilhah coneived, and bare Jacob a son." (These arrangements never seem to produce daughters.) 30:1-4
17. Rachel trades her husband's favors for some mandrakes. And so, when Jacob cam home, Leah said: "Thou must come in unto me, for surely I have hired thee with my son's mandrakes. And he lay with her that night." Presumably God, by telling us this edifying story, is teaching us something about sexual ethics. 30:15-16
18. Dinah, the daughter of Jacob, is "defiled" by a man who seems to love her dearly. Her brothers trick all of the men of the town and kill them (after first having them all circumcised), and then take their wives and children captive. 34:1-31
19. "Reuben went and lay with his father's concubine." I wonder why God wants to tell us about it. Maybe he figures that "inquiring minds want to know." 35:22
20. "And Judah saw there a daughter of a certain Canaanite , and he took her, and went in unto her. And she conceived, and bare a son; and she called his name Er. And she conceived again [I guess Judah must have went in unto her again] and bare a son; and she called hi name Onan." (It seems that the probability of having a biblical daughter is considerably less than 50%.) 38:2-4
21. After God killed Er, Judah tells Onan to "go in unto they brother's wife." But "Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and , when he went in unto his brother's wife , he spilled it on the ground, And the thing which he did displeased the Lord; wherefore he slew him also." This lovely Bible story is seldom read in Sunday School, but it is the basis of many Christian doctrines, including the condemnation of both masturbation and birth control. 38:8-10
22. Tamar (the widow of Er and Onan, who were killed by God) dresses up as a prostitute and Judah (her father-in-law) propositions her, saying: "Let me come in unto thee , And he , came in unto her, and she conceived by him." From this incestuous union, twins (38:27-28) were born (both were boys of course). One of these was Pharez -- an ancestor of Jesus (Lk.3:33). 38:13-18
23. After Judah pays Tamar for her services, he is told that she "played the harlot" and "is with child by whoredom." When Judah hears this, he says, "Bring her forth, and let her be burnt." 38:24
24. Joseph is seduced by Potiphar's wife. He rejects her advances, but she claims he "came in unto" her. 39:7-18
25. God promised to bring Jacob safely back from Egypt (Gen.46:3-4), but God doesn't keep his promise and Jacob dies in Egypt. 49:27
26. Jacob says that Reuben will "not excel" because he "went up to [his] father's couch [had sex with his father's wife]." (see Gen.35:22) 49:4

Exodus
27. God decides to kill Moses because his son had not yet been circumcised. Luckily for Moses, his Egyptian wife Zipporah "took a sharp stone, and cut off the foreskin of her son, and cast it at his feet, and said, Surely a bloody husband art thou to me. So he [God] let him go." This story shows the importance of joysticks to God, and his hatred of foreskins. 4:24
28. Moses, like a coach giving instructions to the team before the big game, tells the men to "come not at your wives" before he goes up to Mt. Sinai. 19:15
29. God tells the priests not to go up the steps to the altar "that thy unclothedness not be discovered thereon." (Skirts on stairs are a problem.) 20:26
30. "Whosoever lieth with a beast shall surely be put to death." Is it really necessary to kill such people? Couldn't we just send them to counseling or something? 22:19
31. Aaron makes a golden calf and tells the people to take off their clothes and dance around naked. God then punishes them mercilessly for following their divinely appointed religious leader. 32:1-35
32. "Their daughters go a whoring after their gods, and make thy sons go a whoring after their gods." God always blames the women; it is they who "go a whoring" and then "make" the men "go a whoring." 34:16

Leviticus
33. Long, tiresome, and disgusting instructions regarding the treatment of men who have a "running issue" out of their "flesh." Very enlightening. "And if he that hath the issue spit upon him that is clean , " 15:2-15
34. This passage tells you what to do if you get your "seed of copulation" on yourself, your clothes, or your partner. Thank God this is in the Bible. 15:16-18, 32
35. Don't "uncover the unclothedness" of any of your relatives or neighbors. Just ask them to keep their clothes on while you are around. 18:6-18, 20
36. "Also thou shalt not approach unto a woman to uncover her unclothedness, as long as she is apart for her uncleanness," Don't even look at a menstruating woman. 18:19
37. Don't "lie with any beast." You probably weren't planning on doing this, but now you know just in case you get the urge sometime. 18:23
38. Don't "go a whoring" after Molech or "commit adultery with him." (Don't you love it when God talks dirty?) 20:5
39. Stay away from people with familiar spirits and don't "go a whoring" after them either. 20:6
40. If you "lie" with your wife and your mother-in-law (now that sounds fun!), then all three of your must be burned to death. 20:14
41. If a man or woman "lie with a beast" both the person and the poor animal are to be killed. 20:15
42. Don't have sex with your sister, uncle's wife, or your brother's wife -- and tell them to wear clothes whenever you're around. 20:17, 19-21
43. "Neither shall he [the priest] profane his seed among his people." (His seed is holy.) 21:15
44. A man with damaged testicles must not "come nigh to offer the bread of his God." 21:20
45. A man who has a "running issue" or "whose seed goeth from him" , "shall not eat of the holy things, until he be clean." 22:3-5 -->

Deuteronomy
46. If you see a pretty woman among the captives and would like her for a wife, then just bring her home and "go in unto her." Later, if you decide you don't like her, you can "let her go." 21:11-14
47. If a man marries, then decides that he hates his wife, he can claim she wasn't a virgin when they were married. If her father can't produce the "tokens of her virginity" (bloody sheets), then the woman is to be stoned to death at her father's doorstep. 22:13-21
48. "If a man be found lying with a woman married to a husband, then they shall both of them die." 22:22
49. If a betrothed virgin is raped in the city and doesn't cry out loud enough, then "the men of the city shall stone her to death." 22:23-24
50. If a man rapes an unbetrothed virgin, he must pay her father 50 shekels of silver and then marry her. 22:28
51. "A man shall not take his father's wife, nor discover his father's skirt." 22:29
52. You can't go to church if your testicles are damaged or your penis has been cut off. 23:1
53. God lays down the law regarding wet dreams. "If there be among you any man that is not clean by reason of uncleanness that chanceth him by night , " 23:10
54. If a man dies without having a child, his brother shall "go in unto" his dead brother's wife. If he refuses, the dead man's wife is to loosen his shoe and spit in his face. 25:5-10
55. If two men fight and the wife of one grabs the "secrets" of the other, "then thou shalt cut off her hand" and "thy eye shall not pity her." 25:11-12
56. "Cursed be he that lieth with his father's wife, because he uncovereth his father's skirt." (Why?) 27:20
57. "Cursed be he that lieth with any manner of beast: and all the people shall say, Amen." 27:21
58. "Cursed be he that lieth with his sister , And all the people shall say, Amen." 27:22
59. "Cursed be he that lieth with his mother in law: and all the people shall say, Amen." 27:23
60. "Thou shalt betroth a wife, and another man shall lie with her." 28:30

Judges
61. "Have they not divided the prey; to every man a damsel or two?" 5:30
62. Samson sees a Philistine woman and tells his parents to "get her for me; for she pleaseth me well." 14:1-3
63. "Then went Samson to Gaza, and saw there an harlot, and went in unto her." 16:1
64. After taking in a traveling Levite, the host offers his virgin daughter and his guest's concubine to a mob of perverts (who want to have sex with his guest). The mob refuses the daughter, but accepts the concubine and they "abuse her all night." The next morning she crawls back to the doorstep and dies. The Levite puts her dead body on an ass and takes her home. Then he chops her body up into twelve pieces and sends them to each of the twelve tribes of Israel. 19:22-30

Ruth
65. Naomi encourages Ruth to spend the night with Boaz. Ru.3:3-4
66. Ruth lies down next to Boaz after "uncovering his feet." Ru.3:7
67. Ruth tells Boaz to spread his skirt over her. Ru.3:9
68. Ruth lies at "his feet" until morning. Ru.3:14
69. Boaz "goes in unto" Ruth and she conceives a son (King David's grandfather). Ru.4:13

1 Samuel
70. "And Elkanah knew Hannah his wife; and the Lord remembered her [he probably said something like, "Oh yeah, she's the one whose womb I shut up."]. And Hannah conceived and "bare a son [Oh boy, another boy!], and called his name Samuel." 1:19-20
71. "And the Lord visited Hannah [again], so that she conceived." Did he get her pregnant in the usual way? 2:21
72. The sons of Eli had sex with women "at the door of the tabernacle." 2:22
73. David kills 200 Philistines and brings their foreskins to Saul to buy his first wife (Saul's daughter Michal). Saul had only asked for 100 foreskins, but David was feeling generous. 18:25-27
74. Saul gets a bit carried away with his prophesying "and he stripped off his clothes , and lay down naked all that day and night. Wherefore they say, Is Saul also among the prophets?" (But see 1 Sam.10:11-12 for another story explaining the origin of this famous proverb.) 19:24
75. The priest tells David that he and his men can eat the "hallowed" bread if "they have kept themselves at least from women." David assures the priest that they have and that "the vessels of the young men are holy." So it'd be OK for them to eat the holy bread. 21:4-5

2 Samuel
76. David tells Jonathan that he has given him pleasures more than that of woman. 2 Sam.1:26
77. "And David took him more concubines and wives." 2 Sam.5:13
78. David dances nearly naked in front of God and everybody. 2 Sam.6:20
79. David watches a women bathe, likes what he sees, and "goes in unto her." 2 Sam.11:2-4
80. God says he will give David's wives to someone else who will "lie with thy wives in the sight of the sun." 2 Sam.12:11-12
81. God kills David's son to punish David by having sex with his wives. 2 Sam.12:15, 18
82. Ammon rapes his half-sister. 2 Sam.13:11
83. Absalom "goes in unto" his father's [David's] concubines. 2 Sam.16:21-22

1 Kings
84. Old King David tries to get some heat by having a beautiful virgin minister unto him. 1:1-4
85. "King Solomon loved many strange women. And he had 700 wives and 300 concubines." 11:1-3

1 Chronicles
86. David's servants had their buttocks exposed. 19:4

Esther
87. "All the fair young virgins" throughout the kingdom are brought before the king, and the one that "pleaseth" the king the most will replace Vashti. 2:2-4
88. When it was Esther turn to "go in unto the king," she pleases the king the most. So, having won the sex contest, she is made queen in Vashti's place. 2:8-9, 12-17
89. Since women are inherently dirty, the woman that "pleased the king" the most must be "purified" for twelve months before she can be made queen. 2:9-12

Proverbs
90. "Let her breasts satisfy thee at all times." 5:18
91. "Come let us take our fill of love until the morning." 7:18
92. What is "the candle of the Lord" doing probing about "the inward parts of the belly?" 20:27
93. One of the four "wonderful" things is "the way of a man with a maid." 30:18-19

Song of Solomon
94. "Let him kiss me with the kisses of his mouth: for thy love is better than wine." A fitting beginning for a pornographic poem. 1:2
95. "He shall lie all night betwixt my breasts." And to think the fundamentalists complain about prime time TV. 1:13
96. "I sat down under his shadow with great delight, and his fruit was sweet to my taste." Gosh, is this a biblical description of MouthAction, or what? 2:3
97. "His left hand is under my head and his right hand doth embrace me." Hmm, I wonder if his left hand knows what his right hand is doing. 2:6
98. Our heroine takes her lover into her mother's bedroom and asks not to be disturbed "till he please." 3:4-5
99. "Thy two breasts are like two young roes that are twins." I'm not sure that I get this one. Were the breasts really big, did they jiggle around a lot, or what? 4:5
100. "My beloved put in his hand by the hole of the door, and my bowels were moved for him." Is the "hole of the door" her clitoris and the "bowel movement" an orgasm? I hope so, or this verse is really disgusting. 5:4
101. "My hands dropped with myrrh, and my fingers with sweet smelling myrrh, upon the handles of the lock. I opened to my beloved; but my beloved had withdrawn himself." 5:5-6
102. More filthy talk about navels, bellies, thighs, and breasts. 7:1-3
103. "How pleasant art thou, O love, for delights! , Thy breasts shall be as clusters of the vine." Sounds like Penthouse waxing poetic. 7:6-8
104. "Let us get up early to the vineyards , there will I give thee my loves." Sounds like they're going to do it in the vinyards. 7:12
105. "His left hand should be under my head, and his right hand should embrace me." 8:3
106. "We have a little sister, and she hath no breasts , But my breasts [are] like towers." 8:8-10

Isaiah
107. God "will discover their secret parts." 3:16-17
108. Isaiah has sex with a prophetess who conceives and bears a son. (You weren't expecting a daughter, were you?) God then tells Isaiah to call his name Mathershalalhashbaz. (It has a nice ring to it, doesn't it?) 8:3
109. God tells Isaiah to take off all his clothes and to wander about completely naked for three years as a "sign and a wonder." In this way he will be just like the Egyptian captives who will walk about naked "with their buttocks uncovered." 20:2-5
110. Tyre "shall commit fornication with all the kingdoms of the world," and her hire shall be holiness to the Lord." 23:17-18
111. "Tremble, ye women that are at ease , strip you, and make you bare , They shall lament for the teats." 32:6

Jeremiah
112. "Thou hast played the harlot with many lovers." 3:1
113. "In the ways thou hast sat for them, as the Arabian in the wilderness; and thou hast polluted the land with thy whoredoms. 3:2
114. More talk of harlots who have sex under every tree. 3:6
115. Judah commits adultery with "stocks and stones." 3:9
116. Jeremiah just can't quit talking about sex under the trees. 3:13
117. "As fed horses in the morning: everyone neighed after his neighbor's wife." 5:8
118. God plans to expose Jerusalem's private parts to the world by lifting her skirt over her head, so to speak. He's seen her commit whoredoms and abominations and whatnot on the hills, and he's getting darned sick of it! 13:26-27

Lamentations
119. Jerusalem is compared to a naked woman who sighs and turns backward. "Her filthiness is in her skirts." 1:8-10
120. The adversary puts his hand upon "all her pleasant things. 1:10

Ezekiel
121. God dresses up Jerusalem, cleans off the blood that she was wallowing in, and then watches her open her "feet to everyone that passeth by." She made "images of men" and committed "whoredom with them." 16:6-41
122. Big joysticks. 16:26
123. Discovering the unclothedness of fathers, committing adultery with neighbor's wives, sex with menstruating women, daughters-in-law, and sisters. 22:1-16
124. A tale of two sisters. 23:1-49
125. Really big joysticks. 23:20
126. God makes "all their loins to be at a stand" and then cuts them off. 29:7-9

Hosea
127. God continues to rant about "whoredoms" and "adulteries from between her breasts." He threatens to "strip her naked and set her as in the day she was born."2:2-3
128. God says he "will discover her lewdness in the sight of her lovers." 2:10
129. God tells Hosea to "love a woman beloved of her friend, yet an adulteress." 3:1
130. Israel has "gone a whoring" and says "loved a reward upon every cornfloor." 9:1

Mark
131. One of the followers of Jesus was a young, nearly naked man who dropped his linen cloth and "fled from them naked" when the priests came to arrest Jesus. 14:51-52
132. "They have given a boy for a harlot, and sold a girl for wine, that they may drink." Jl.3:3

Amos
133. God predicts that "a man and his father will go in unto the same maid." 2:7
134. On the day of God's wrath, brave men "shall flee away naked." 2:16

Nahum
135. God will "discover thy skirts upon thy face, , show the nations thy unclothedness" and "will cast abominable filth upon thee."3:4-6

Matthew
136. "There be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it." Dangerous words from a guy who recommends cutting of body parts if they cause you to sin (Mt.5:29-30, Mt.18:8-9, Mk.9:43-48). It might make someone castrate himself so that he could be one of the 144,000 male virgins, who alone will make it to heaven (Rev.14:3-4). 19:12

Romans
137. With his usual intolerance, Paul condemns homosexuals (including lesbians). This is the only clear reference to lesbians in the Bible. 1:26-28

1 Corinthians
138. Paul, judging from rumors alone, complains that there are fornicators among his followers in Corinth; he is even worried that some have had sex with their fathers' wives. He says that those who have done these things should be expelled from their community and that they will later be sent to hell. 5:1-5
139. Paul asks if he should "take the members of Christ, and make them members of an harlot?" He further asks, "Know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body?" I didn't know that. 6:15-16
140. Paul wishes that men and woman abstain from sex, but tells them to "come together" to avoid being tempted by Satan. 7:5

1 Timothy
141. Homosexuals (those "that defile themselves with mankind"wink are included in Paul's list of lawless, disobedient, unholy, and profane people. 1 Tim.1:10

Revelation
142. Only 144,00 celibate men will be saved. (Those who were not "defiled with women."wink Rev.14:3-4
143. The great harlot is described as being "full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication." Rev.17:1-16
Re: Sex And Violence In The Bible by MIZIEYA: 10:16am On Oct 02, 2006
[b]More sex and violence in the Bleep rated bible - the phrase: 'knew and entered" means that sexual intercourse took place. in Davids case where he was impotent- it meant he couldn't quite get it up,

Adultery
II Samuel 11:2-4 ", And David sent and enquired after the woman. And one said, Is not this Bathsheba, the daughter of Eliam, the wife of Uriah the Hittite? And David sent messengers, and took her; and she came in unto him, and he lay with her; for she was purified from her uncleanness (her menstrual period): and she returned unto her house."

Breasts
Solomon's Song 1:13 "A bundle of myrrh is my well-beloved unto me; he shall lie all night betwixt my breasts."

Solomon's Song 4:5, 7:3,7 Thy two breast are like, "two young roes that are twins, which feed among the lilies, , two young roes that are twins, , clusters of grapes."

II Kings 6:28,29 "And the king said unto her, What aileth thee? And she answered, This woman said unto me, Give thy son, that we may eat him to day, and we will eat my son to morrow. So we boiled my son, and did eat him: and I said unto her on the next day, Give thy son, that we may eat him: and she hath hid her son."

CASTRATION
Matthew 19:12 "For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it."

CHILD ABUSE
Genesis 22:9&10 "And they came to the place which God had told him of; and Abraham built an altar there, and laid the wood in order, and bound Isaac his son, and laid him on the altar upon the wood. And Abraham stretched forth his hand, and took the knife to slay his son."

I Kings 3:24,25 "And the king said, Bring me a sword. And they brought a sword before the king. And the king said, Divide the living child in two, and give half to the one, and half to the other."

EXHIBITIONISM
Isaiah 20:2-3 "At the same time spake the LORD by Isaiah the son of Amoz, saying, Go and loose the sackcloth from off thy loins, and put off thy shoe from thy foot. And he did so, walking naked and barefoot. And the LORD said, Like as my servant Isaiah hath walked naked and barefoot three years for a sign and wonder upon Egypt and Ethiopia; So shall the king of Assyria lead away the Egyptians prisoners, and the Ethiopians captives, young and old, naked and barefoot, even with their buttocks uncovered, to the shame of Egypt."

FLAT-CHESTED WOMEN
Solomon's Song 8:8 "We have a little sister, and she hath no breasts: what shall we do for our sister in the day when she shall be spoken for? If she be a wall, we will build upon her a palace of silver: and if she be a door, we will inclose her with boards of cedar."
GANG-RAPE
Judges 19:24-29 "Behold, here is my daughter a maiden, and his concubine; them I will bring out now, and humble ye them, and do with them what seemeth good unto you: but unto this man do not so vile a thing. But the men would not hearken to him: so the man took his concubine, and brought her forth unto them; and they knew her, and abused her all the night until the morning: and when the day began to spring, they let her go. Then came the woman in the dawning of the day, and fell down at the door of the man's house where her lord was, till it was light. And her lord rose up in the morning, and opened the doors of the house, and went out to go his way: and behold, the woman his concubine was fallen down at the door of the house, and her hands were upon the threshold. And he said unto her, Up, and let us be going. But none answered. Then the man took her up upon an ass, and the man rose up, and gat him unto his place. And when he was come into his house, he took a knife, and laid hold on his concubine, and divided her, together with her bones, into twelve pieces, and sent her into all the coasts of Israel."

HUMAN SACRIFICE
Genesis 22:9,10 "And they came to the place which God had told him of; and Abraham built an altar there, and laid the wood in order, and bound Isaac his son, and laid him on the altar upon the wood. And Abraham stretched forth his hand, and took the knife to slay his son."

IMPOTENCE
I Kings 1:1-4 "Now king David was old and stricken in years; and they covered him with clothes, but he gat no heat. Wherefore his servants said unto him, Let there be sought for my lord the king a young virgin: and let her stand before the king, and let her cherish him, and let her lie in thy bosom, that my lord the king may get heat. So they sought for a fair damsel throughout all the coasts of Israel, and found Abishag a Shunammite, and brought her to the king. And the damsel was very fair, and cherished the king, and ministered to him: but the king knew her not."

INCEST
Leviticus 18:6-18 Detailing of incestuous relationships

Leviticus 20:11,12 More about incest and unclothedness

MASTURBATION
Genesis 38:8-10 "And Judah said unto Onan, Go in unto thy brother's wife, and marry her, and raise up seed to thy brother. And Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his brother's wife, that he spilled it on the ground, lest that he should give seed to his brother. And the thing which he did displeased the Lord: wherefore he slew him also."

1 Thessalonians 4:4,5 "That every one of you should know how to possess his vessel in sanctification and honour; Not in the lust of concupiscence, even as the Gentiles which know not God:"

MURDER FOR SEX
II Samuel 11:14 "And it came to pass in the morning that David wrote a letter to Joab, and sent it by the hand of Uriah. And he wrote in the letter, saying, Set ye Uriah in the forefront of the hottest battle, and retire ye from him, that he may be smitten, and die. And it came to pass, when Joab observed the city that he assigned Uriah unto a place where he knew that valiant men were. And the men of the city went out, and fought with Joab: and there fell some of the people of the servants of David; and Uriah the Hittite died also.

PEDOPHILIA
Numbers 31:18 (Moses to his soldiers) "But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves."

PROSTITUTION

Esther was given by her uncle, Mordecai to the king, Ahasuerus, for his favors to the Jewish people.
Proverbs 31:18 "She perceiveth that her merchandise is good: her candle goeth not out by night."

Matthew 1:1-16 Four women are mentioned by name in the geneology of Jesus - Tamar, Rahab, Ruth, and Bathsheeba. Tamar [Genesis 38] disguised herself as a prostitute, and took payment from her father-in-law for sex. Rahab [Joshua 2] was a prostitute who sheltered two Israelite spies.

Luke 7:37-50 "Wherefore I say unto thee, Her sins, which are many, are forgiven; for she loved much: but to whom little is forgiven, the same loveth little." Though Luke describes the woman as a "sinner," she is commonly treated as a prostitute, as is Mary Magdalene who was also not a prostitute.

RITUAL CHILD SEXUAL MUTILATION
Genesis 17:10-14 ", And he that is eight days old shall be circumcised amoung you, "


SEXUAL SLAVERY
Leviticus 19:20 "And whosoever lieth carnally with a woman, that is a bondmaid, betrothed to an husband, and not at all redeemed, nor freedom given her; she shall be scourged; they shall not be put to death, because she was not free."

Esther 2:12,14 "Now when every maid's turn was come to go in to king Ahasuerus, after that she had been twelve months, according to the manner of the women, (for so were the days of their purifications accomplished, to wit, six months with oil of myrrh, and six months with sweet odours, and with other things for the purifiying of the womenwink In the evening she went, and on the morrow she returned into the second house of the women, to the custody of Shaashgaz, the king's chamberlain, which kept the concubines: she came in unto the king no more, except the king delighted in her, and that she were called by name."


SIZE QUEENS
2 Chronicles 10:10 "And the young men that were brought up with him spake unto him, saying, Thus shalt thou answer the people that spake unto thee, saying, Thy father made our yoke heavy, but make thou it somewhat lighter for us; thus shalt thou say unto them, My little finger shall be thicker than my father's loins."

Ezekiel 16:26 "Thou hast also committed fornication with the Egyptians thy neighbours, great of flesh; and hast increased thy whoredoms, to provoke me to anger."
Ezekiel 23:20 "There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of a horse." [New International Version]

UNWED TEEN PREGNANCY
Luke 1:26-35 The virgin Mary should have just said no and waited until she finished school and got married. I can give you reading lists if you need more, <winks>

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Re: Sex And Violence In The Bible by MIZIEYA: 10:32am On Oct 02, 2006
[b]Genesis 4:1-2 1 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the Lord. 2 And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground.

The word translated here as "knew" is the Hebrew verb yada which, in this context, could best be rendered in modern English as "had sexual relations with." The next passage relating that Cain "knew" his wife is the one from which we can infer incest, for he would have had to cohabit either with his own mother Eve or with one of his unnamed sisters.

Genesis 4:17 And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch. It is only an inference, of course, for it is possible that there existed another couple in the creation fable, but that they were simply omitted from the narrative. Under this hypothesis, Cain would have married one of their daughters.

The fundamentalist explanation is that Jehovah did not see fit to create more than one couple and that the usual eugenic objections to incest simply do not apply here because of the pristine purity of the race at that time. To be sure, incestuous liaisons were to become quite commonplace throughout the Bible. Moses, the great leader of Israel, was himself a son of incest.

Exodus 6:20 And Amram took him Joch'ebed his father's sister to wife: and she bare him Aaron and Moses: and the years of life of Amram were a hundred and thirty and seven years. Surely an omnipotent deity could have avoided even the suggestion of incest by including at least two couples in his plan of special creation and thus precluding any speculation about what has since become the strongest universal taboo.

Many Biblical interpreters of the modern school also see sexual overtones in the expulsion of Adam and Eve from Eden. They insist that their original sin was not just in partaking of the forbidden apple but rather the story of forbidden fruit is simply an allegory for sexual intercourse.

Theologians who oppose this theory of sexual original sin make a persuasive case for their argument by stating that if Jehovah had indeed given the edict to be fruitful and multiply, he would hardly have condemned Adam and Eve for obeying his explicit instructions.

At any rate, the fragmentary and ambiguous narrative leaves room for speculation about incest having occurred either on a mother and son basis (Eve and Cain) or on a brother and sister basis (Cain and his sister). It cannot be ruled out as unlikely since other episodes in the Holy Writ reinforce the notion that there's nothing wrong with incest as long as it's kept in the family,

Leviticus 20:17 And if a man shall take his sister, his father's daughter, or his mother's daughter, and see her unclothedness, and she see his unclothedness; it is a wicked thing; and they shall be cut off in the sight of their people: he hath uncovered his sister's unclothedness; he shall bear his iniquity.


Deuteronomy 27:22 Cursed be he that lieth with his sister, the daughter of his father, or the daughter of his mother; and all the people shall say, Amen.

Clearly incest is the foundation of the judeo christian religion,

<smirks>






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Re: Sex And Violence In The Bible by naijacutee(f): 3:59pm On Oct 02, 2006
Where did all this brainwashing come from?


Yes, all these issues are mentioned in the Bible because THEY ARE PART OF EVERYDAY LIFE. If they had been taken out, then we would have people like you complaining that the Bible is not complete. These issues are all there and people like you complain about the content. The truth is that no matter what, the Bible will never be good in your eyes. If you are not happy, quit bashing and go and write your one like others have done.

The fact that these issues are in the Bible does not mean that the Bible condones them. It only goes to show that the Bible doesn't talk about a fantasy but rather, issues that happen in the reality of life.
Re: Sex And Violence In The Bible by IDINRETE: 7:57pm On Oct 02, 2006
Mizieya what is your religious affiliation
Re: Sex And Violence In The Bible by Aggressa(m): 9:10pm On Oct 02, 2006
IDINRETE:

Mizieya what is your religious affiliation
,

@Idinrete and all;
Mizieya is a 'Celtic Pagan', the foolish group of people who hang around "Stone-Henge" looking at the sun for the meaning of their life; reading and looking for and/or about relationship of Jesus to the Greek Gods grin grin. So dont be surprised about his/her(whichever!!) attempt at Bible bashing. Kindly pray for him/her because his/her body is the temple of the devil hence the foolishness displayed in all of his/her postings. Bible says it is a fool that says there is no God.
Probably he or she had a terrible up-bringing, suffered abuse, disappointment in life etc and instead of dealing with such situations, learning and moving on with life, Mizieya decided that the true God is the enemy who must be fought at all cost. Well Apostle Paul was worse than Mizieya until he had the 'Damascus' experience, therefore I pray that Mizieya will meet with the Lord of the whole world, Jesus, on the way to Damascus very soon. His/Her soul is precious to the Lord.
Re: Sex And Violence In The Bible by babs787(m): 3:34pm On Oct 04, 2006
naijacutee and the rest christians in the room.

why cant u be sincere and homest with yourselves.
naijacutee, u said the reason for the inclusion of those Indecency is for the completion of the bible.

so if you need the completion of the bible, does Indecency needs to be added. and how will u feel if your younger ones read and come across all those. wont they encourage fornication.

also check the book of solomon, there u have all the poems, flatteries etc, u will use in toasting and seducing any babes.

I ASK U AGAIN WHAT MORAL DO ALL THESE TEACH?, prophet sleeping with a LovePeddler, sleeping with daugther, sleeping with concumbine, mentioning of breasts etc.
Re: Sex And Violence In The Bible by jerrymania(m): 3:53pm On Oct 04, 2006
@ mizieya
Dont bother about his foolishness, for he will run when no man pursueth!
He is just one of the little demons trying to spoil our faith, but he is a looser, because he(Jesus) that is in us is greater than the devil in the world and THAN mizieya too. I pray that Jesus save your soul, because God, the Father of my Lord Jesus has reserved the hottest part in the lake of fire for you, you have just blasphemed against the Holy Spirit
Christians lets pray for him/her.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(you speak after your own dirty wisdom, do you know the meaning of pornography by the way and how did your dad and mum conceive you??@ mizieya and other apostates or anti-Christ)
Re: Sex And Violence In The Bible by jerrymania(m): 3:59pm On Oct 04, 2006
@ babs787
Jesus will reveal himself to you in 2 weeks time, that i prophesy unto you that you may see his great Glory, and you will have the wisdom of God to know what the songs of Solomon stand for and also the word of God so you can have a greater direction in life and seek out the purpose you were born,

BE BORN AGAIN, and live a sinless life, is it a crime to be that
Re: Sex And Violence In The Bible by MIZIEYA: 4:17pm On Oct 04, 2006
Clearly your dispute is not with me- it is with the bible. I do find it amusing that when presented with your own religious fecal matter you people quickly run away and claim it is 'the devil' or someone poisoning your faith,

Remember Lot? Lot was hailed as an upright man of god by Peter and Paul, yet Lot is the very man who had sex with his daughters AFTER offering them up to be raped in his own home and city. Are you plebians recanting whats in the bible and hoping to do some christian revisionism?

Denialism doesn't work for me.

An Analogyof belief:

Christians believe in an invisible sky god - they know its real

The followers of the I.P.U (Invisible Pink Unicorn) (PBUH) know that She is real because She is Pink, Invisible and a Unicorn.

<smiles dazzinlingly>
Re: Sex And Violence In The Bible by MIZIEYA: 4:21pm On Oct 04, 2006
Kikanuku- I suspect sex education went over yourpretty little con artist head.

Deny the contents of the bible and you are tantamount to denying your own reliigon.

Be jesuslike and speak in spirit

Can you do that?? as oposed to ego? You are filled with the holy spirit right?

<sniggers>
Re: Sex And Violence In The Bible by MIZIEYA: 4:26pm On Oct 04, 2006
naijaicutee

Clearly if everything mentioned in my posts that depict all the acts were ungodly and not approved- there would have been mention of it by the authors of the bible. Clearly to understand the bible is to read it.

A Pagan doesn't need a bible or indeed someone elses thoughtscapes to get them by like a drug addict.

Perhaps you should read the bible more closely before you proselytise virtue: there are none in the bible whcih is quite reflective of a christians dead spirituality.

Re: Sex And Violence In The Bible by MIZIEYA: 4:30pm On Oct 04, 2006
Havila- when I disclose to anyone about my life- I shall ensure that you're one of the first to read my Autobiography. In the meantime I strongly advise you to use less imagination and keep to the realms of reality.

You may wish to actually read the bible before you type a post based on your own ignorance and preconception.
Re: Sex And Violence In The Bible by MIZIEYA: 4:36pm On Oct 04, 2006
Idinrete: I am a Celtic Pagan with affiliation to Druidism who also has knowledge of African Religion, Folklore, mythology and feel that Celtic Paganism is a kindred spirit of African Religions since they have many similarities.

I have two (2) websites: www.ieya.info and also www.mizieya.com - I am easily found on the internet since I have a Presence in Cyberspace.

The Bible is not suitable for children or adults with high blood pressure.
Re: Sex And Violence In The Bible by Nobody: 5:58pm On Oct 04, 2006
Hypocrisy and stupidity indeed knows no boundaries:

Isnt it funny that one of the titles of our dear deluded brother MIZIEYA's new albums so happens "incidentally" to come from the same bible he claims to denounce:

Please read: __ he is currently working on 2 albums "through a glass darkly" ___

1 Corinthians 13:12
For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.


Wonders they say shall never end!
Re: Sex And Violence In The Bible by MIZIEYA: 9:40pm On Oct 04, 2006
[b]Actually Through A Glass Darkly and The Windows Of The Soul are available on itunes and other portals.

The Christian religion and the bible is indated with Paganism. The phrase itself is applicable to anything from scrying to different aspects of divination: Prescience.

If anything Paul like Jesus borrowed quotes from other cultures and icons. You may be embarrassed to know many authors who are also not christian have used the phrase "through a glass darkly either as book title or chapter - Agatha Christie springs to mind, the title is also familar with the Film Industry- hrough A Glass Darkly by Ingmar Bergman springs to mind as well. There are also many non christian musicans who have used the same title - David Olney springs to mind; and of course Pagan and other true religious groups such as Hindus have used such a phrase in articles:

http://www.witchvox.com/va/dt_va.html?a=usnj&c=words&id=10830
http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/new_age_perspectives/24919

Don't be jealous of me just because I am Wonderful.

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Re: Sex And Violence In The Bible by Nobody: 9:53pm On Oct 04, 2006
MIZIEYA:

Don't be jealous of me just because I am Wonderful.

<Smiles smugly>[/b][/color][/font]

Jealous of a soul in darkness hurtling at the speed of light to the depths of hell? I shake my head in pity!
Re: Sex And Violence In The Bible by Nobody: 9:58pm On Oct 04, 2006
You might want to ask all those people you so ignorantly quote where they obtained a statement that had been clearly documented 2000yrs before they where born.

Enjoy your halucination!
Re: Sex And Violence In The Bible by MIZIEYA: 10:04pm On Oct 04, 2006
I have no interest in asking them that question- which you broached- its your cry baby wagon - YOU ask them little girl.

Because I am Who I AM <smirks> means that like the Jews I don't believe in jesus or heaven or indeed hell.

However like the christians and muslims I do believe in persecution: Christian Persecution no less: its one of my favourite pasttimes. I am guessing once you've finished your studies in america, you'll stay there illegally

<smiles dazzingly>
Re: Sex And Violence In The Bible by Nobody: 10:25pm On Oct 04, 2006
MIZIEYA:

I have no interest in asking them that question- which you broached- its your cry baby wagon - YOU ask them little girl.

Because I am Who I AM <smirks> means that like the Jews I don't believe in jesus or heaven or indeed hell.

However like the christians and muslims I do believe in persecution: Christian Persecution no less: its one of my favourite pasttimes. I am guessing once you've finished your studies in america, you'll stay there illegally

<smiles dazzingly>

You ignorant little twerp! Of course you are quick to align yourself with the "Jews who dont believe in Jesus, Heaven or Hell", not really because your posit on the Jews has any element of truth but because as is usual with those who have unsettled consciences and wish to continously assure themselves that they are not in the minority, you keep grasping at any available straws to buttress very weak claims.

As for staying in the US legally or illegally, sorry its none of your business. One wonders how you or your ancestors found their way to Ireland in the first place. For your information i am legally here and pursuing the highest level of degree the likes of you can only dream of.

Keep reveling in darkness!
Re: Sex And Violence In The Bible by MIZIEYA: 11:28pm On Oct 04, 2006
david:
1 You ignorant little twerp!
2 Of course you are quick to align yourself with the "Jews who don't believe in Jesus, Heaven or Hell",
3not really because your posit on the Jews has any element of truth but because as is usual with those who have unsettled consciences and wish to continously assure themselves that they are not in the minority, you keep grasping at any available straws to buttress very weak claims.
4 As for staying in the US legally or illegally, sorry its none of your business. One wonders how you or your ancestors found their way to Ireland in the first place. For your information i am legally here and pursuing the highest level of degree the likes of you can only dream of.

[b]MIZIEYA
1 Calling me ignorant when you have no idea where Wales is, and it is certainly not in Ireland.
2 There is a difference between commonality and alignment. Clearly if you're in higher education you would know the difference. Perhaps the Barbarian in you is coming out?
3 A tip I always give to the plebeian who is trying to better him/herself is: never consider yourself as a mind reader: thus claiming " those who have unsettled consciences and wish to continously assure themselves that they are not in the minority." is in equal proportion to insubstantiality as the claim that jesus existed or indeed that there is a "true christian".
3a) Weak claims? If you wish to rewrite the bible just because it is unsuitable for children and unpalatable for your mindset- then do so.
4) The highest level of degree? I'm sure you'd make an adequate janitor. Don't forget mixing chemicals isnt a good idea unless you're planning on making a bomb or bio weapon.
5) Talking of bombs- clearly you're not the smartest bomb in the armoury.


Don't envy me just because I keep running rings around your spastic head <smiles indulgently>[/b]
Re: Sex And Violence In The Bible by Aggressa(m): 11:37pm On Oct 04, 2006
Dear all  grin
Well 'Miss Pink' Mizieya has confirmed the profile I wrote about him: he is an agnostic, nassicistic, self-willed, ignorant under-achiever who's got 'issues' with God. Kindly read his various posts, (if his album is anything like his posts, nobody will listen just like most peoples are not replying his various other posts), then take a look at his picture on his web-site and you'll understand that he needs our prayers. This is a very confused man, who has decided to take issues with God and Jesus, just like the guy who shot and killed the 5 kids in the Amish community in Pennsylvania.
Since you are a self-acclaimed Celtic Pagan, it will simply be wrong to start dignifying you with responses to your ludicrous claims about the Bible, this is because you are not in control of your thoughts and mind but the spirit of the 'accuser of the brethren' reigns in your mind and he needs to be dislodged by the spirit of truth.
Seriously, God loves you, and I mean the true, living God and not the idols you worship at the 'Stone henge'; there is no length of Bible bashing that you can do that can reduce or remove the Glory of the Living God or His glory in the life of his children i.e us. I know you had issues in your past; abuse, failures, disappointment etc, however it is the same devil that you are worshiping now that subjected you to such through various peoples you've come across simply to destroy your destiny, maybe the devil knows your future is great but he will "attempt to steal, kill and destroy your destiny". By getting angry at God and worshipping the devil through your "Celtic Paganism, Druism etc, you are just helping him (devil) to fulfil his plan for your life, albeit ignorantly. But I pray that the Light of the World, Jesus Christ, will shine into your face and your life and give you the 'arresting, Damascus experience'.
God said he knows the 'thought he has towards us, thoughts of peace and not of evil, to bring us to an expected glorious end'. Why not allow the work of God in your life, listen to that inner voice calling you from the brink of darkness, find out your God-given purpose in life, forget whatever you might have gone through in life that made you angry, focus on the future.
God Loves you very much and He is calling you back from the brink. Salvation is knocking at your door, open your heart, let go of the hurts and anger, let love flow in.
Re: Sex And Violence In The Bible by MIZIEYA: 11:55pm On Oct 04, 2006
[b]Do you understand the differences between Celtic Paganism and Agnosticism?

Christians always cry "Persecution" when they are being challenged - yet its perfectly ok for them to persecute others if they are not conforming to the christian ideal - it is because of this that it's increasingly difficult to distinguish between a crazed christian fundamentalist and an islamic one.

I prefer my brand of Reality. I also prefer being Myself as opposed to being a blank paged Christian. Individuality means Freedom: Clearly you have none. Christian Fundamentalism is the equivalent of Muslim Extremism: Neither of which I favour.

I strongly advise you - get educated on the subject of MIZIEYA, Paganism, Agnosticism, and Christianity. You will find your versions of your momentary perceptions are somewhat redundent and useless in combating my Knowledge regarding the prurient christian religion: especially when I can quite happily use your own religion against you.

Perhaps as a christian you may want to actualise 'god's love' instead of preaching it: remember Agape. Not that, that will help your case. The holy spirit is dead would explain why christianity has no spirituality but only rhetoric.

You claim that "Salvation is knocking at your door, open your heart, let go of the hurts and anger, let love flow in." You should be aware that your words mirror the diatribe that the white missionaries sold to Africa and other countries. And we all know how that ended up: Slavery, Bloodshed and ignorance. The very things that enabled sex and violence in the bible and justified it.

<Smiles Indulgently>

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Re: Sex And Violence In The Bible by Nobody: 12:15am On Oct 05, 2006
MIZIEYA:

You claim that "Salvation is knocking at your door, open your heart, let go of the hurts and anger, let love flow in." You should be aware that your words mirror the diatribe that the white missionaries sold to Africa and other countries. And we all know how that ended up: Slavery, Bloodshed and ignorance. The very things that enabled sex and violence in the bible and justified it.

You should also be aware that same slavery and bloodshed was also a hallmark of white celtic pagans of which neither you nor your ancestors can claim to be a part of though you desperately wish to belong! Any white welsh man would be laughing up his ass anytime you refer to yourself as a "celtic" pagan!
Re: Sex And Violence In The Bible by MIZIEYA: 9:32am On Oct 05, 2006
David:
1You should also be aware that same slavery and bloodshed was also a hallmark of white celtic pagans of which neither you nor your ancestors can claim to be a part of though you desperately wish to belong!
2Any white welsh man would be laughing up his ass anytime you refer to yourself as a "celtic" pagan!

[b]Mizieya:
Dear rabid David you keep evading my questions - I am wondering a this stage if your effeminacy is getting the better of you- remember effeminate men don't make it into heaven.

1 Actually Celtic Tribal History boils down to skirmishes with each other as opposed to later united Imperialism: Empire that saw control over most of Africa, and other countries.: Ireland, Scotland, Wales and England were also invaded by Rome, France and so on- in fact the english language is made up of its past invaders Anglo Saxon etc etc,

2 I have many Caucasian Friends - in fact 90% of which are Pagan like me. There are caucasian men and women born in Africa-some of which take up African Religious Tradition. The creator of WTFD Records whom I signed with for instance is South African - I don't percieve anyone laughing at him because he is a white South African. If anything you and other blacks are more in a Less Credible situation - by adopting christianity and or indeed Islam you are sending the message to the world that says "Yes abuse me." Christianity and Islam not only did and does the empire scenario but cost people their lives- our ancestors- talk about sleeping with the Enemy- in ww2 you would be labelled as a collaborator for doing such a thing.

3 I believe you need to get some concrete. And by the way- can you produce evidence that Jesus did not support sex or violent acts during his supposed existence? If one reads the bible you will find evidence that supports his unchristlikeness.

4 I am wondering if you are a crackwhore? Because your remarks are very spaced out, Addiction in any form is not healthy.
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Re: Sex And Violence In The Bible by blasterman(m): 2:28pm On Oct 05, 2006
i wonder what u r driving at .so if their is sex and violence in the bible, it doesnt mean u should go and kill some one because u read it in the bible.
Re: Sex And Violence In The Bible by Nobody: 3:27pm On Oct 05, 2006
@ MIZIEYA
Better to ignore the rantings of an attention-seeking raving lunatic who is obviously deluded into thinking he is contributing anything better than zilch to society!
Re: Sex And Violence In The Bible by MIZIEYA: 5:16pm On Oct 05, 2006
David let me know when you run out of money i'll be hapy to pay your air fare back to Mars.
Re: Sex And Violence In The Bible by MIZIEYA: 5:18pm On Oct 05, 2006
Blaster you may wish to look at the News reports where Men have killed because the bible or god told them,
Re: Sex And Violence In The Bible by babs787(m): 5:02pm On Oct 06, 2006
kikanuka,

u suprised me a lot. you said jesus will appear to me soon? is jesus of the catholic, protestant, jehovah witness etc. or the one having beards or the one not having. or the one tied to a stake or the one on a cross?. i already have jesus but not the jesus in the bible, and not only jesus i have, i have all the prophets too.

one funny thing about u christians, u have your bible with you and u saw all these things yourselves. what do all these stand to teach the younger generations.

the christians mind have been programmed in such a way that no matter the truth you show them, they will never believe though its only God that directs and show man the way.

please go through your bible again, and tell me the lesson to derive for all those chapters above

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