Norenal:
Its all human's way of wanting 2 free demselves 4rm deir own sins n its effect dat makes dem blv dat d ALMIGHTY Predestined deir lifes

benELOHIM7:
I strongly believe in destiny. The case of jacob and esau where God told rebecca dat she would give birth to twins and the elder shall serve the younger simply puts that there is such concept as destiny and somehow God is behind it.




This na big issue you bring up so o

Brown47:

you strongly believe in destiny? and you will still be the person to blame your so called devil when things go wrong. Is'nt that too suppose to be destined from your god?
If you believe in such i see no reason why you should suffer yourself to follow gods will to get heaven. Coz your end has been programmed and destined

benELOHIM7:
Gods destiny for everyone including you, is good and to bring us to an expected end. Its expected that some forces might not want this to happen, this is where the devil comes in

Brown47:

so if you end up in the expected end its god destiny. And when you end up in the other end its devil work. Can the the devil change gods destiny in you?

johnydon22:
Have always noticed that people who believe in destinies, that everything has been predestined and nobody can do anything to change that always look before they cross the road.

Why not just cross since nothing will happen to you if you were not destined for that

johnydon22:
Have always noticed that people who believe in destinies, that everything has been predestined and nobody can do anything to change that always look before they cross the road.

Why not just cross since nothing will happen to you if you were not destined for that

johnydon22:
Have always noticed that people who believe in destinies, that everything has been predestined and nobody can do anything to change that always look before they cross the road.

Why not just cross since nothing will happen to you if you were not destined for that

tartar9:
"But you cannot will, unless Allah wills.Verily, Allah is Ever All-Knowing, All-
Wise." (Qur'an 76:30)

johnydon22:
Ok so Allah already knows the people he will send to hell before creating them right?

Olril18:
Good day to everyone here...
I have always wonder whether the concept of destiny is real at all,I mean is it really true that there is a God somewhere who has decided for us all what we will become and and how we will live our life before we are born.
isnt destiny supposed to be a result of series of actions people have taken 2wards themselves? or people actions accidental or not towards others?

then The question of conscience comes to the face,if our whole lives has been programmed by one higher being, why then do we have our conscience to guild us in terms of our actions and their consequences.

does destiny means an armed robber has been fated to become such even before he was born? the same goes for an hired killer..
if God has programmed our lives,then why should there be hellfire for bad people since they can argue it is God that destined them to live that way..

please I'm not denying the existence of God but the question has to the existence of destiny has always been of curiousity to me.

is it that People are not addressing the matter because they are scared of questioning Religion?

tartar9:
yes,why shouldn't He know

johnydon22:
Wow that's nice. . .Meaning that Allah just created them so as to throw them in hell, he has willed them to hell even before creating them and there is nothing they can do to escape that fate because what ever Allaha predestines is surely gonna happen.....

So Allah just brings people who didn't ask to be created into existence just to throw them in hell

I can
this shows Allah off to be psychotic, barbaric, sadistic and retarded freak you know

tartar9:
Allah(SAW) is omniscient He knew every single thing that will ever happen even before creation.you have your own free will but can't will to follow the straight path unless Allah so wills.

johnydon22:
Sometimes i wonder if you people even read what you write..

Someone has freewill but yet will only act according to Allah's will. do you even know what freewill is?

If your actions must conform to Allah's will then there is no freewill, Allah has already willed billions to burn in a literal fire forever, Imagine the type of barbarism you lot harbour in your mind and are ok with it

ifeness:


Question should be: Are we the Gods who have chosen a particular way to experience different live experiences? If you put a singular God in the equation,you might need to underline the destiny of this God.

When you look at the word "Destiny" it means means DESTINATION! [b] We probably have all made sub conscious agreement to go on a particular path and thereby guiding ourselves with fates. [/b]The human might is a big machine that is capable of holding hidden files we may have not been able to retrieve. Regardless of religion,belief or sentiments we are all fulfilling our destinies subconsciously.

PastorAIO:


This is what ATRs teach. The destiny/agreement in yoruba is called Ayanmo. Furthermore it works beneath our conscious wills. So our destiny is buried in our unconscious and we head there inexorably without even being aware.

Does God have a destiny? Is he bound by his destiny or is he free to choose his destiny?

johnydon22:
Sometimes i wonder if you people even read what you write..

Someone has freewill but yet will only act according to Allah's will. do you even know what freewill is?

If your actions must conform to Allah's will then there is no freewill, Allah has already willed billions to burn in a literal fire forever, Imagine the type of barbarism you lot harbour in your mind and are ok with it

chalantmike:
you can walk, jump, crawl, board a bus, follow long cut as well as short, you can decide to branch and cajole, but broz your destination is still there, you go reach am.

chalantmike:
let me explain, no matter what man does he can escape God/nature.

This is how destiny and free will are related.
God ordained that man must "thats destiny", but at the same time he created a wide variety of things to eat, for man to pick "thats freewill".

On ur way to work, its been destined you'd get to work "destination", you can walk, jump, crawl, board a bus, follow long cut as well as short, you can decide to branch and cajole, but broz your destination is still there, you go reach am.

johnydon22:
[b]Am not sure you lot even have the slightest idea what freewill is.

There is no option or end point in freewill, there is no destination in freewill what ever you decide is what it is..

If a destiny has been determined for you and you can do nothing to escape it then there is no freewill not even in the least sense because everything you do must conform to that destiny.

If everything has been planned or foreknown by an omniscient being who can never be wrong then there is no freewill because everything must go according to the plan or foreknowledge.

If there is freewill, freedom to choose your own path and your own goal and your own destination then there is nothing like predetermined destiny.

Your destiny is yours and yours alone to determine and your destiny is what ever you say it is.

Now you lot are here ringing about a God who has destined billions to burn in a literal fire, he destined them to be from other religion and so as to burn them in hell forever and this he did long before they were created, creating people who didnt ask to be created just to roast them in hell forever because he has predestined them for hell... It can never get sicker and more stupendous than this.

Proudly harbouring such vile, evil and barbaric concept in the guise of a God and expect any rational human not to refute such ludicrous ideas. . [/b]

Olril18:
Good day to everyone here...
I have always wonder whether the concept of destiny is real at all,I mean is it really true that there is a God somewhere who has decided for us all what we will become and and how we will live our life before we are born.
isnt destiny supposed to be a result of series of actions people have taken 2wards themselves? or people actions accidental or not towards others?

then The question of conscience comes to the face,if our whole lives has been programmed by one higher being, why then do we have our conscience to guild us in terms of our actions and their consequences.

does destiny means an armed robber has been fated to become such even before he was born? the same goes for an hired killer..
if God has programmed our lives,then why should there be hellfire for bad people since they can argue it is God that destined them to live that way..

please I'm not denying the existence of God but the question has to the existence of destiny has always been of curiousity to me.

is it that People are not addressing the matter because they are scared of questioning Religion?

chalantmike:
what have you said, i read the first two paragraphs i just stopped reading. I know a wasted effort when i see on,

Your askes you to get dressed thats a goal, if a time frame is given fine, but the goal is the destiny the objective at that point in time.
What you chose to wear is freewill, your choice, how you chose to wear it, is also free will. End game is get dressed.
SIMPLY ANALOGS LIKE THIS GO A LONG WAY IN EXPLANNING COMPLEX FORMULA. if you don't get the simple, how do you get the complex one.