IkUKU01:
Life is a complex entity wen viewed in different perspective it all correlates!! Asuming it was prophet mohammed(P B Upon Him)dat appeared u would av heard phrases like ALLAHUAKBAR! Or if sometin in d form of JESUS appeared in any protestant church they would av believed!!but as 4 d video it correlates with d prayers dat those children in block rosary normally recite "who is she dat cometh forth as d morning rising? Fair as d moon, bright as d sun".bla bla bla I must say am tempted to believe and I believed.

LOVEGINO:
Wonder shall never end!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZblmPoa8Ho0!

Appleyard:
Mary did not appear anywhere! So-called Mary is a demon decieving people with appearance here and there. We know her to be fake because Mary had no Biblical role to play in the scheme of things nor in event pertaining to the end time!

Just another enticing and seducing spirit decieving and operating an unsuspecting church.

So-called holy mary decieving people since Eons!

MeandSum:


not sure which is worse - you believing in end time or them barking at a cloud? you both suffer the same delusion

italo:

I don't know. I don't say what I don't know, unlike you.

Imoy:

U are confused bro.
Checking ur signature tells me u are a catholic,
I will jst advice u to read ur bible very well and pray 4 direction.
God bless u.
Pls dnt quote me again cos u won't get a reply.

roob:


Chai!.. Your very confuse..smh..

ayoku777:


Rev 4v1-2 -After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter. And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne.

See that? John saw it in the Spirit. The vision was a spiritual vision, with symbolic representation for what was to come.

The four horsemen, the angels of the seven trumpets, and the woman of Rev 12, were all seen spiritually by John. They were not physical appearance.

Ofcourse, they all represent physical realities or that their actions will cause physical events. But the angels and the woman were not seen physically.

It was a spiritual vision.

Shalom

Jozzy4:


This guy and selective interpretation , this 1-4 seals ar SYMBOLIC but the fifth seal of souls under the altar is physical right ?

Jozzy4:


This guy and selective interpretation , this 1-4 seals ar SYMBOLIC but the fifth seal of souls under the altar is physical right ?

Appleyard:
Pls, refer to this thread: Roman Catholicism Exposed: Who Is This Mother And Child?

ayoku777:


None of the seals were physical. I said they were all seen spiritually. A spiritual vision can be a literal occurence, but it happened in the realm of the spirit; not seen physically.

The seven angels blowing the trumpet is a literal spiritual occurence, but no physical eye will see them. So also, the souls under the alter are literal, but spiritual. Can you physically see a soul?

Not everything in Revelation was symbolic, some were literal. But John saw everything in the spirit, spiritually. Spiritual and symbolic don't mean the same thing. A spiritual event can be literal, but not physical.

You get?

Shalom

Jozzy4:

Off point !
by physical, i mean literal

Are The four horsemen literal or symbolic representations ?

ayoku777:


They could be either of the two (literal or symbolic). Because one of the horsemen is called death; and hell followed behind him. That's sounds symbolic.

But the other horsemen had no such names, just descriptions. So they could be literal.


But they are all definitely spiritual (spiritual beings or spiritual events). None was physical, or could be seen physically. They are all either literal spiritual beings or symbolic spiritual events in the realm of the spirit.

Shalom

MeandSum:


First, I'm an atheist (I've been for over 20 years) but for argument's sake, I've got few questions for you.

1) do you believe Jesus was born through immaculate conception?
2) do you believe in the perpetual virginity of his mother, Mary, after his birth?

Your case is like that of two mad men arguing in a psychiatric hospital over who has the right to see the doctor first. One says he should be let in first because he's Joseph Stalin and the other says he is superior because he's Napoleon Bonaparte.

Bottom line, organized religion are all based on lies.

Jozzy4:


You finally confirmed my words , you are so good at selective interpretation . @underlined So a part of the seals is symbolic while other parts are literal ? uh

ayoku777:


That's the truth of the book of revelation. Some are literal, some are symbolic, some are spiritual, and some are physical (eg millenial reign, white throne judgment).

That's why to understand revelation, there is no room for lazy generalization. You must prayerfully meditate on it and compare its texts with other verses of the bible.

Those who say, all of revelation is symbolic, or all of revelation is literal, etc are the ones that come up with bogus and phoney interpretation.

Trying to streamline the book of revelation into a single style of interpretation (say only symbolic or only literal) will lead one to false doctrines and heresis.

Above all though, no matter how studious or meditative we get with the word, we still need to prayerfully ask the Holy Spirit to open our understanding. It is His book, He inspired its writers; so only Him knows it all.

Shalom

dmandy:


My brother are you surprised?

Jozzy4:


Not suprised , aftrall you heard him saying one horseman is symbolic while the remaining horsemen in the seal are literal .

italo:


So not only "covenant mediators" can appear now.

Countries too can appear.

Like Israel, Nigeria etc

Only the appearance of Mary and Elijah are demonic, abi?

Appleyard:
Mary did not appear anywhere! So-called Mary is a demon decieving people with appearance here and there. We know her to be fake because Mary had no Biblical role to play in the scheme of things nor in event pertaining to the end time!

Just another enticing and seducing spirit decieving and operating an unsuspecting church.

So-called holy mary decieving people since Eons!

esherizdan:

thank u my broda some gullible Christians will turn DAT place to a worship center.its close to my area u mid to see d numb a of pple trooping DAT place

esherizdan:

thank u my broda some gullible Christians will turn DAT place to a worship center.its close to my area u mid to see d numb a of pple trooping DAT place

frank317:
The holy spirit is at it again, causing confusion among Christians.

Eminentsaint:
That's not the real video. The real video has not been uploaded yet. I live in Kaduna.

ayoku777:


Rev 12v17 -And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

In this passage, who is the seed of the woman? It is Jesus, the man child (Rev 12v5)

And who are the remnant of her seed (Jesus)? It is the believing jews and gentiles. That's why it said "those which have the testimony of Jesus Christ".

The remnant of the seed of the woman is the Church; believers in Christ; the seed of Abraham after the Spirit. While the woman herself is Israel; the seed of Abraham after the flesh.

Its not so hard.

Shalom

dionflex:


And You Clearly Stated Before that The Woman Isn't Mary. How come Israel Is Now The Mother Of Jesus Christ? Can You Explain That From The Bible?

ayoku777:


Rev 12v17 -And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

In this passage, who is the seed of the woman? It is Jesus, the man child (Rev 12v5)

And who are the remnant of her seed (Jesus)? It is the believing jews and gentiles. That's why it said "those which have the testimony of Jesus Christ".

The remnant of the seed of the woman is the Church; believers in Christ; the seed of Abraham after the Spirit. While the woman herself is Israel; the seed of Abraham after the flesh.

Its not so hard.

Shalom