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Re: According To The Quran,allah Help In Creating The World Largest Religion. by Demmzy15(m): 5:59am On Sep 18, 2015
malvisguy212:
let me quote what I say on the other thread.

The Qur’an is based completely on the
personal experiences of one illiterate
man spanning a period of 23 years.Only one person allegedly saw the “angel.” Only one person allegedly heard a voice. The entire faith is limited to one book with only one person who allegedly received the vision. There is absolutely no way to verify anything. Our question is, “Does not this then mean that the only way to become a Muslim is to take this one man’s word for it?”
Mr. Malvisguy we believe everything the Prophet Muhammad says because it's from the Almighty, so any problem? undecided
Re: According To The Quran,allah Help In Creating The World Largest Religion. by Annunaki(m): 7:55am On Sep 18, 2015
malvisguy212:
let me quote what I say on the other thread.

The Qur’an is based completely on the
personal experiences of one illiterate
man spanning a period of 23 years.Only one person allegedly saw the “angel.” Only one person allegedly heard a voice. The entire faith is limited to one book with only one person who allegedly received the vision. There is absolutely no way to verify anything. Our question is, “Does not this then mean that the only way to become a Muslim is to take this one man’s word for it?”

And to make matters worse, this one man was a villain, armed robber, murderer, rapist, paedophile and psychopath that had zero credibility.

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Re: According To The Quran,allah Help In Creating The World Largest Religion. by Annunaki(m): 7:56am On Sep 18, 2015
Demmzy15:

Mr. Malvisguy we believe everything the Prophet Muhammad says because it's from the Almighty, so any problem? undecided

And did the almighty tell you he sent that criminal
Re: According To The Quran,allah Help In Creating The World Largest Religion. by malvisguy212: 8:42am On Sep 18, 2015
lexiconkabir:
let me quote what i said in one thread, since songs of solomon is a pornfilled book, that describes b'reast of women as wine, and where a woman is lusting over a man thinking of him s'ucking her(sorry to say), is that in anyway divine? should it even be in the "holybible"?
and it was the same song of solomon muslims claimed, the book prophesied the coming of muhammed ? Confusion!!!

The song of solomon is about a man who is describing the body of his wife. The book was not introduced as a vision nither is the word "God" mention only in verse 16 (I think) even the new testament church did not make reference on it , the reason the book is in the bible, is because it was about solomon (one of isreal Great) he was describing his wife body.

The song of solomon mention brea'st and you are complaining, do you want me to mention the verse in the quran that went even worse in mentioning se'x ? And the hadith ?
Re: According To The Quran,allah Help In Creating The World Largest Religion. by malvisguy212: 9:08am On Sep 18, 2015
Demmzy15:

Mr. Malvisguy we believe everything the Prophet Muhammad says because it's from the Almighty, so any problem? undecided
in the bible, God always revealed himself to his prophet and someone will confirmed it , Abraham claimed God spoke to him and Sarah confirmed it , Moses heard from God and Aaron confirmed it .David heard and solomon confirmed it. Elijah heard and elisha confirmed it , the list goes on and on. But the case of muhammed is even worse, it was not God himself that revealed himself to muhammed, but angel Gabriel who comes with a different attitude contrary from the biblical angel Gabriel. Who confirmed it ? NO one bear witness of his alleged calling, it was his wife, kadijah who never had an encounter with God angel , she convinced muhammed of his prophethood . The faith of muslims worldwide begin in an encounter in the cave of hira.
Re: According To The Quran,allah Help In Creating The World Largest Religion. by malvisguy212: 9:09am On Sep 18, 2015
Annunaki:


And to make matters worse, this one man was a villain, armed robber, murderer, rapist, paedophile and psychopath that had zero credibility.
word brother, word. Nice one.
Re: According To The Quran,allah Help In Creating The World Largest Religion. by Demmzy15(m): 9:56am On Sep 18, 2015
malvisguy212:
in the bible, God always revealed himself to his prophet and someone will confirmed it , Abraham claimed God spoke to him and Sarah confirmed it , Moses heard from God and Aaron confirmed it .David heard and solomon confirmed it. Elijah heard and elisha confirmed it , the list goes on and on. But the case of muhammed is even worse, it was not God himself that revealed himself to muhammed, but angel Gabriel who comes with a different attitude contrary from the biblical angel Gabriel. Who confirmed it ? NO one bear witness of his alleged calling, it was his wife, kadijah who never had an encounter with God angel , she convinced muhammed of his prophethood . The faith of muslims worldwide begin in an encounter in the cave of hira.
Oya that's it, we're OK with it! So what's your problem? undecided
Re: According To The Quran,allah Help In Creating The World Largest Religion. by Anas09: 10:41am On Sep 18, 2015
Busted. These guys sure knows they are following a false prophet yet they can't turn away from his spirit(satan) even wen the man(Mu harm mad) testified that he didn't know his fate on his dead bed, these folks still follows and kills those who won't follow, to an unknown destination.
I beg of you, my brothers in humanity, come to jesus now that u still can. Don't wait. You know you have been lied to. Pls come.
Brother Malvis thank you for ur efforts to bring this light out. Today, its clear this guys knows that they are wrong. Jesus loves all, ur sins won't be a barrier. Just come home.
Peace.

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Re: According To The Quran,allah Help In Creating The World Largest Religion. by Nobody: 11:20am On Sep 18, 2015
malvisguy212:

The song of solomon is about a man who is describing the body of his wife. The book was not introduced as a vision neither is the word "God" mention only in verse 16 (I think) even the new testament church did not make reference on it , the reason the book is in the bible, is because it was about solomon
i'm very glad you admitted that the book of solomon is not divine(not introduced as a vision like you stated) then why did paul said all the scriptures are God's breath? did i hear you say it was solomon and his wife? lets see songs of songs8:1-3 "if only you were to me like a brother, nursed by my mothers breast! then if i found you outside, i would kiss you and no one will despise me. i would lead you and bring you to my mothers house, she who has taught me, [b]i would give you spiced wine(i.e vagin'a semen), the nectar of my pomegranate" the woman is clearly lusting over a man that was not her husband, considering the emboldened.
Re: According To The Quran,allah Help In Creating The World Largest Religion. by malvisguy212: 6:29pm On Sep 18, 2015
lexiconkabir:
i'm very glad you admitted that the book of solomon is not divine(not introduced as a vision like you stated) then why did paul said all the scriptures are God's breath? did i hear you say it was solomon and his wife? lets see songs of songs8:1-3 "if only you were to me like a brother, nursed by my mothers breast! then if i found you outside, i would kiss you and no one will despise me. i would lead you and bring you to my mothers house, she who has taught me, [b]i would give you spiced wine(i.e vagin'a semen), the nectar of my pomegranate" the woman is clearly lusting over a man that was not her husband, considering the emboldened.
there is big different between inspiration and vision.

When I say , the book is not introduced as a vision, I mean something like this "thus say the Lord " the writer did not begin like that.compear tp others books.
Re: According To The Quran,allah Help In Creating The World Largest Religion. by malvisguy212: 6:33pm On Sep 18, 2015
Demmzy15:

Oya that's it, we're OK with it! So what's your problem? undecided
ask questions ,be convinced of what you believe ,the bible say "search the scripture ,ask questions and be convinced of your faith"
Re: According To The Quran,allah Help In Creating The World Largest Religion. by Demmzy15(m): 6:39pm On Sep 18, 2015
malvisguy212:
ask questions ,be convinced of what you believe ,the bible say "search the scripture ,ask questions and be convinced of your faith"
OK! Oya face front!
Re: According To The Quran,allah Help In Creating The World Largest Religion. by Nobody: 7:07pm On Sep 18, 2015
malvisguy212:
there is big different between inspiration and vision.

When I say , the book is not introduced as a vision, I mean something like this "thus say the Lord " the writer did not begin like that.compear tp others books.
ok if it was not introduce as a vision, then how do you describe such book, divine or not divine? and please tell me that verse i quoted was talking about a man and his wife.
Re: According To The Quran,allah Help In Creating The World Largest Religion. by malvisguy212: 7:47pm On Sep 18, 2015
lexiconkabir:
ok if it was not introduce as a vision, then how do you describe such book, divine or not divine? and please tell me that verse i quoted was talking about a man and his wife.
because song of solomon talk about female breas't and you say it is impossible that such verse is inspired by God , okay what about this quranic verse:
Quran 23:1-7
Successful indeed are the believers,
Who are humble in their prayers, And
who keep aloof from what is vain,
And who are givers of poor-rate, And
who guard their PRIVATE PARTS , EXCEPT
BEFORE THEIR MATES (azwajihim) or
those whom their right hands possess, for they surely are not blameable, But whoever seeks to go beyond that, these are they that exceed the limits;

Infacte, this quranic verse indicate muslims men and woman can have sex before they got married. The reference to "their mates" includes both the males and the females, i.e. to the husbands and wives of the believers. The word zawaj can refer to either spouse and it is not gender specific.
Re: According To The Quran,allah Help In Creating The World Largest Religion. by Nobody: 8:03pm On Sep 18, 2015
malvisguy212:
because song of solomon talk about female breas't and you say it is impossible that such verse is inspired by God , okay what about this quranic verse:
Quran 23:1-7
Successful indeed are the believers,
Who are humble in their prayers, And
who keep aloof from what is vain,
And who are givers of poor-rate, And
who guard their PRIVATE PARTS , EXCEPT
BEFORE THEIR MATES (azwajihim) or
those whom their right hands possess, for they surely are not blameable, But whoever seeks to go beyond that, these are they that exceed the limits;
Mr man, the arabic word for husband is zawjun and the arabic word for wife is zawjah, now the plural wives in arabic is azwajuhum, which was what is used in that verse not zawaj as the site you copied and pasted fron claimed, see http://quran.com/23/1-7 i can see how desperate and frustrated you are, now answer my question in the previous post especially that songs of solomon8:1-3 and stop being a coward.

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Re: According To The Quran,allah Help In Creating The World Largest Religion. by Nobody: 5:17am On Sep 19, 2015
malvisguy212, i am waiting, (1)is songs of solomon8:1-3 about a man and his wife?.........(2)you made a statement that, "the book was not introduced as a vision" now i'm asking you, is such book called DIVINE or NOT DIVINE?............(3)you kept lamenting that a man mentioned b'reast in that book and i'm complaining, no malvisguy12! my complaint is, why would he say the b'reast and v'agina of a woman taste like wine? even if it his wife, is this morally right? especially when underaged children has access to this book of porn a.k.a songs of solomon. these questions should also interest parisbookaddict, come help your friend parisbookaddict.

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Re: According To The Quran,allah Help In Creating The World Largest Religion. by malvisguy212: 7:32am On Sep 19, 2015
lexiconkabir:
Mr man, the arabic word for husband is zawjun and the arabic word for wife is zawjaha, now the plural wives in arabic is azwajuhum, which was what is used in that verse not zawaj as the site you copied and pasted fron claimed, see http://quran.com/23/1-7 i can see how desperate and frustrated you are, now answer my question in the previous post especially that songs of solomon8:1-3 and stop being a coward.
Qatadah said, "A woman slept with her male slave so they brought her to Umar. And they told him she
UNDERSTOOD VERSE 23:6 TO SAY THAT ,
so Umar shaved the male slave head
and let her go after expelling the
slave from Madina and said the
woman shouldn’t marry any one after
that." (Tafsir Ibn Kathir on Sura 23:6;

Notice the passage that was cited to
justify what the woman had done with
her male slave. They clearly understood
Sura 23:6 to be permitting even the
women to enjoy sexual intimacy with
their slaves without being required to
marry them. Now how did Umar
respond? Did he use a Quranic verse to
refute them or did he simply forbid them from engaging in sexual relations even though they cited a Quranic text to
support their case? Which holds more
authority, the Quran or Umar’s arbitrary
interpretations and decrees?
Re: According To The Quran,allah Help In Creating The World Largest Religion. by Nobody: 7:49am On Sep 19, 2015
malvisguy212:
Qatadah said, "A woman slept with her male slave so they brought her to Umar. And they told him she
UNDERSTOOD VERSE 23:6 TO SAY THAT ,
so Umar shaved the male slave head
and let her go after expelling the
slave from Madina and said the
woman shouldn’t marry any one after
that." (Tafsir Ibn Kathir on Sura 23:6;

Notice the passage that was cited to
justify what the woman had done with
her male slave. They clearly understood
Sura 23:6 to be permitting even the
women to enjoy sexual intimacy with
their slaves without being required to
marry them. Now how did Umar
respond? Did he use a Quranic verse to
refute them or did he simply forbid them from engaging in sexual relations even though
that verse was explicitly talking to men, that was why azwajuhum meaning WIVES so tell me, how can women use this verse? hahahaha make una come help me laf malvisguy oo grin, no source of the hadith sef. I've answering you questions now answer mine!
Re: According To The Quran,allah Help In Creating The World Largest Religion. by malvisguy212: 7:50am On Sep 19, 2015
lexiconkabir:
malvisguy212, i am waiting, (1)is songs of solomon8:1-3 about a man and his wife?.........(2)you made a statement that, "the book was not introduced as a vision" now i'm asking you, is such book called DIVINE or NOT DIVINE?............(3)you kept lamenting that a man mentioned b'reast in that book and i'm complaining, no malvisguy12! my complaint is, why would he say the b'reast and v'agina of a woman taste like wine? even if it his wife, is this morally right? especially when underaged children has access to this book of porn a.k.a songs of solomon. these questions should also interest parisbookaddict, come help your friend parisbookaddict.
malvisguy212:
there is big different between inspiration and vision.
When I say , the book is not introduced as a vision, I mean something like this "thus say the Lord " the writer did not begin like that.compear tp others books.
are you dumb ? The book is not introduced as a vision, there is not a single prophecy on it, the reason the book is in the bible is because ,king solomon is one of isreal Great king. The book hold a "good moral standards for marriage" how a man should love his wife (physical love ) the man fall in love with the woman , but the woman did not accept at first because she see him as a stranger, as days go by, she began to know him , at the end the woman fall in love with him . The Bible teaches the “righteousness and value of true love” between a man and woman.

So back to the topic, thoes Jews Allah deceive in thinking Jesus died, prior to the coming of muhammed (600years) all of them should've died before then, whose gonna take the blame for believing Jesus died? Allah or satan ?
Re: According To The Quran,allah Help In Creating The World Largest Religion. by malvisguy212: 7:54am On Sep 19, 2015
lexiconkabir:
that verse was explicitly talking to men, that was why azwajuhum meaning WIVES so tell me, how can women use this verse? hahahaha make una come help me laf malvisguy oo grin, no source of the hadith sef. I've answering you questions now answer mine!
trash, As it stands, this passage is formulated gender neutral, i.e. it applies to both male and female believers, and thus indeed permits Muslim men and Muslim women to have sex with those whom
their right hands possess without needing to be married first.
Re: According To The Quran,allah Help In Creating The World Largest Religion. by Nobody: 7:56am On Sep 19, 2015
malvisguy212 i asked a simple question, is the book divine or not if it is not why did paul said that all the scripture is God's breath?, you've not talked on songs of solomon8:1-3
Re: According To The Quran,allah Help In Creating The World Largest Religion. by Nobody: 7:59am On Sep 19, 2015
malvisguy212:
trash, As it stands, this passage is formulated gender neutral, i.e. it applies to both male and female believers, and thus indeed permits Muslim men and Muslim women to have sex with those whom
their right hands possess without needing to be married first.
gender neutral? so if i talk about wives i'm talking about male and female right? weldone
Re: According To The Quran,allah Help In Creating The World Largest Religion. by malvisguy212: 8:07am On Sep 19, 2015
lexiconkabir:
malvisguy212 i asked a simple question, is the book divine or not if it is not why did paul said the all the scripture is God's breath?, you've not talked on songs of solomon8:1-3
the song of solomon is divine , an inspiration FROM GOD on how a man should love his wife, the different is that the book did not start as a VISION. It is because of your dirty mind that is making you to imagine dirty things. Is there anything wrong for a man to described the body of his wife ? And to admired her soo much ? Pleased stop derailing this topic, answer the op or I will report you to the moderator. Thank you.
Re: According To The Quran,allah Help In Creating The World Largest Religion. by Nobody: 8:11am On Sep 19, 2015
malvisguy212:
the song of solomon is divine , an inspiration FROM GOD on how a man should love his wife, the different is that the book did not start as a VISION. It is because of your dirty mind that is making you to imagine dirty things. Is there anything wrong for a man to described the body of his wife ? And to admired her soo much ? Pleased stop derailing this topic, answer the op or I will report you to the moderator. Thank you.
so the book is divine which means song of solomon8:1-3 is also divine right? weldone! admiring your wife's body is no problem, i agree, but exposing it to the whole world is a big problem, except if you are saying that you malvisguy can expose how your wife body looks like or how her b'reast taste to the whole world. you started derailing the thread at first! you cant threaten me with the mods, believe me, if you go to the bathroom, i will be there, in your dreams, i will be there, even when you are watching tv, i will be there! grin grin
Re: According To The Quran,allah Help In Creating The World Largest Religion. by malvisguy212: 8:33am On Sep 19, 2015
lexiconkabir:
so the book is divine which means song of solomon8:1-3 is also divine right? weldone! admiring your wife's body is no problem, i agree, but exposing it to the whole world is a big problem, except if you are saying that you malvisguy can expose how your wife body looks like or how her b'reast taste to the whole world. you started derailing the thread at first! you cant threaten me with the mods, believe me, if you go to the bathroom, i will be there, in your dreams, i will be there, even when you are watching tv, i will be there! grin grin
are you alright ? Did solomon exposed his wife body ? How does the body look like ? Alright, keep on following me as a pet. *a man best friend is dog*
Re: According To The Quran,allah Help In Creating The World Largest Religion. by Nobody: 8:35am On Sep 19, 2015
malvisguy212:
are you alright ? Did solomon exposed his wife body ? How does the body look like ? Alright, keep on following me as a pet. *a man best friend is dog*
yes he did, and now i know that her v'agina and b'reast taste like wine(i told ya, i will haunt you like a ghost)
Re: According To The Quran,allah Help In Creating The World Largest Religion. by plainbibletruth: 8:49am On Sep 19, 2015
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lexiconkabir:
so the book is divine which means song of solomon8:1-3 is also divine right? weldone! aQdmiring your wife's body is no problem, i agree, but exposing it to the whole world is a big problem, except if you are saying that you malvisguy can expose how your wife body looks like or how her b'reast taste to the whole world. you started derailing the thread at first! you cant threaten me with the mods, believe me, if you go to the bathroom, i will be there, in your dreams, i will be there, even when you are watching tv, i will be there!
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It is only in depraved and twisted minds of Muslims like you that you can fabricate what you've done in your recent posts.

There is nothing in the Song of Solomon that suggests the words you've created to satisfy your lust for vindictiveness. Only warped minds can come up with such 'creations'.

Thankfully Allah has thought it fit to put Mohammed's depravities in the Quran but in order to hide from it you think that 'creating' your own and 'stamping' it on the Bible will make you 'feel' better.

BTW, you are not using any Bible translation but your own 'creation' to make the gullible think you're right.

As usual with you guys, instead of sticking to the thread you want to divert attention away to some other inconsequential issues.

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Re: According To The Quran,allah Help In Creating The World Largest Religion. by Nobody: 8:58am On Sep 19, 2015
plainbibletruth:
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It is only in depraved and twisted minds of Muslims like you that you can fabricate what you've done in your recent posts.

There is nothing in the Song of Solomon that suggests the words you've created to satisfy your lust for vindictiveness. Only warped minds can come up with such 'creations'.

Thankfully Allah has thought it fit to put Mohammed's depravities in the Quran but in order to hide from it you think that 'creating' your own and 'stamping' it on the Bible will make you 'feel' better.

BTW, you are not using any Bible translation but your own 'creation' to make the gullible think you're right.

As usual with you guys, instead of sticking to the thread you want to divert attention away to some other inconsequential issues.


give us your bible verse and the version you are using lets see.
Re: According To The Quran,allah Help In Creating The World Largest Religion. by malvisguy212: 9:25am On Sep 19, 2015
lexiconkabir:
yes he did, and now i know that her v'agina and b'reast taste like wine(i told ya, i will haunt you like a ghost)
just as you guys successfully derailed this topic :
https://www.nairaland.com/2535883/allegedly-corrupted-scripture-questions-muslims

You want to do the samething here .

And none of you answer this topics
https://www.nairaland.com/2374316/which-one-correct

https://www.nairaland.com/2121425/allahs-invalidate-own-revelation
Re: According To The Quran,allah Help In Creating The World Largest Religion. by Nobody: 9:41am On Sep 19, 2015
Re: According To The Quran,allah Help In Creating The World Largest Religion. by parisbookaddict(f): 9:51am On Sep 19, 2015
lexiconkabir:
malvisguy212, i am waiting, (1)is songs of solomon8:1-3 about a man and his wife?.........(2)you made a statement that, "the book was not introduced as a vision" now i'm asking you, is such book called DIVINE or NOT DIVINE?............(3)you kept lamenting that a man mentioned b'reast in that book and i'm complaining, no malvisguy12! my complaint is, why would he say the b'reast and v'agina of a woman taste like wine? even if it his wife, is this morally right? especially when underaged children has access to this book of porn a.k.a songs of solomon. these questions should also interest parisbookaddict, come help your friend parisbookaddict.

Mister muslim. Did the songs of Solomon command Christians to kill MuslimS. What is ur issue with it.

Did the book say its a prophesy. U claim the book is xrated. Then please quote those passages in context and let's see if it encourages immorality. Don't forget its the book u muslims claim mohammed is mentioned in the bible. Your hypocrisy is legendary

The quran is filled with bloody violence that inspires murder everyday, has the songs of Solomon inspired ChRistians to kill.

dude mention me when u havE serious issues to discuss.
You are yet to answer these questions.

Did Mohammed sleep with a child, 9 year old
Aisha?YES/NO/I DON'T KNOW

Did he kill people eg meccans, pagans, Jews etc?YES/NO/I DON'T KNOW

Did Mohammed command his followers to fight people based on their beliefs?YES/NO/I DON'T KNOW

Did he sleep with and have sex slaves?YES/NO/I DON'T KNOW

Did he command his followers to sleep with captives their right hand possess?YES/NO/I DON'T KNOW

Did Mohammed marry more wives than Islamic Allah permits Muslims?YES/NO/I DON'T KNOW

Did the quran claim that no miracle will be performed by mohammed?YES/NO/I DON'T KNOW

Did mohammed contradict himself or abrogate quran passages because they where contradictory to earlier revelations?YES/NO/I DON'T KNOW

Did he permit the murder of his critics?YES/NO/I DON'T KNOW

Did he rape women during after war, which he
called war booty?{I.e Slave-girls as sexual property}YES/NO/I DON'T KNOW

Did he permit Muslims to beat their wives? {Even if but lightly}YES/NO/I DON'T KNOW

Did he ask people to drink camel piss and milk for good health?YES, HEALTHY/NO, HE DIDN'T/I DON'T KNOW

Did Mohammed say apostates should be killed?YES & I CONCUR / YES, BUT I DON'T CONCUR / NO, HE COULDN'T HAVE!

Did mohammed say he can't guide anyone. YES/NO/I DON'T KNOW

Did mohammed say muslims should cut of the finger tips of their enemies
YES/NO/I DON'T KNOW

Did you know many rightly suspected that mohammed was either mad or a fraud as recorded in the quran.
YES/NO/I DON'T KNOW

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Re: According To The Quran,allah Help In Creating The World Largest Religion. by Scholar8200(m): 10:30am On Sep 19, 2015
lexiconkabir:
malvisguy212, i am waiting, (1)is songs of solomon8:1-3 about a man and his wife?.........(2)you made a statement that, "the book was not introduced as a vision" now i'm asking you, is such book called DIVINE or NOT DIVINE?............(3)you kept lamenting that a man mentioned b'reast in that book and i'm complaining, no malvisguy12! my complaint is, why would he say the b'reast and v'agina of a woman taste like wine? even if it his wife, is this morally right? especially when underaged children has access to this book of porn a.k.a songs of solomon. these questions should also interest parisbookaddict, come help your friend parisbookaddict.
1. YES
SOS 4:9 ETC
Thou hast ravished my heart, my sister, my spouse;
thou hast ravished my heart with one of thine eyes,
Spouse is a term relevant only after marriage.

2. Sure it is Divine. God instituted marriage remember?! Besides, the book indicates a greater mystery which I am not constrained to share here.

3. It is not a book of porn. The same children who read it will read also that those things are meant to occur after marriage. However, you appear to have given your own meanings to something very clear.

The distraction from the topic is hereby regretted.

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