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Re: Where Saraki's Lawyers Goofed - By T0nyebarcanista by lastpage: 1:30am On Sep 22, 2015
denkyw:

I bet you spilled this out of the hate you have for barcanista, you didn't even take a second to read the post. unfortunately for you this is not the real bacarnista, and his points we're so on point.

It is the same Barcanista.
I have taken him out on this his new identity and why he jettisoned the other one, for something similar.
he explained himself.

I understand that we all know what we expect him to be saying since he got "born again" coincidentally, when the former Presodent Jonathan shifted the election and made available #3Billion Naira to be shared amongst Radio/TV stations... (Chairman of Nig. broadcasting Corp visited Channels TV a few days after and told them Govt wants to give them Money to implement "Digitalization" of their broadcast! shocked shocked and we all noticed the change in their Broadcast since then, though they have simmered down now that the money is expiring! grin ) .. and anyone who was willing to get paid to spread deceit, lies and propaganda amongst Nigerians.

So, it may be difficult to accept that Barcanista is singing a different tune now as l know he is also aware that in this "Digital Age", the nonsense you spew today will be unearthed and you will face the consequence even in twenty years time ... when he may be contesting to be a Governor by then!
I bet he is trying to "erase his bad history"
grin grin

Now, except you can offer me PROOF that this is not the same person, then your assertion has no basis.



Lastpage!

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Re: Where Saraki's Lawyers Goofed - By T0nyebarcanista by Asiwaju9ja(m): 2:52am On Sep 22, 2015
T0nyeBarcanista:
Many SANs, including Saraki's lawyers have critically complained about the CCT's disregard for the authority of the Federal High Court.

Let us ignore the fact that they later shot themselves in the feet when they realised their mistake and ran back to institute exactly the same matter at the Court of Appeal.

Apparently, Saraki's lawyers did not realise the following and may need to be schooled further on why their action at the Federal High Court was a nullity:

1. When you are charged to a court....any court at all....and you wish to challenge it's jurisdiction, you do so right in that same court.

2. If the CCT ignores your application and rules that it has jurisdiction, then you appeal its ruling.

3. The constitution has already clarified which court is capable of reviewing the Ruling of the CCT.

4. No where in jurisprudence, is a plaintiff permitted to sue a court as a party to the case, the only provision is to appeal its ruling.

5. The CCT is a specialized court similar to the Election petition Tribunals. Appeals from them go directly to the Court of Appeal. These tribunal panels comprise high court judges of coordinate jurisdiction.

6. An invitation of the high court judge to both parties, asking for them to show reason why they feel the high court should not issue an interlocutory injunction stopping CCT is no way an Interlocutory Injunction already.

7. Saraki's disregard of a substantive court summon in the absence of an Interlocutory Injunction was a direct request for a bench warrant.

While it is very clear that the CCT has given Saraki and his lawyers utmost respect and regard by withholding the bench warrant, believing that as a responsible citizen, he will honour the summons on Tuesday, let no one be in doubt about the CCT's utmost power to arrest, detain and lock behind bars, any accused person who shows open brigandage and disregard for the court's authority, no matter how highly placed.


All these interlocal govt injections (interlocutory injuctions) serves only one purpose. To delay trial while they carry "war chest"(bribe money) looking for who amongst the CCT members Dem fit induce. You think say at least one of the SANs nor know this?

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Re: Where Saraki's Lawyers Goofed - By T0nyebarcanista by madjune(m): 4:44am On Sep 22, 2015
Will the real Barcanista please STAND UP?

He's never been the same since PDP defeat on March 28th.

CHANGE happeneth to people who resist it.
Re: Where Saraki's Lawyers Goofed - By T0nyebarcanista by ready2learn: 6:05am On Sep 22, 2015
If this is the true Barcanista; shocked.
Re: Where Saraki's Lawyers Goofed - By T0nyebarcanista by Demmzy15(m): 6:07am On Sep 22, 2015
denkyw:

I bet you spilled this out of the hate you have for barcanista, you didn't even take a second to read the post. unfortunately for you this is not the real bacarnista, and his points we're so on point.
To be sincere yes, just playing around tho! grin
Re: Where Saraki's Lawyers Goofed - By T0nyebarcanista by malawi101(m): 7:17am On Sep 22, 2015
T0nyeBarcanista:
Many SANs, including Saraki's lawyers have critically complained about the CCT's disregard for the authority of the Federal High Court.

Let us ignore the fact that they later shot themselves in the feet when they realised their mistake and ran back to institute exactly the same matter at the Court of Appeal.

Apparently, Saraki's lawyers did not realise the following and may need to be schooled further on why their action at the Federal High Court was a nullity:

1. When you are charged to a court....any court at all....and you wish to challenge it's jurisdiction, you do so right in that same court.

2. If the CCT ignores your application and rules that it has jurisdiction, then you appeal its ruling.

3. The constitution has already clarified which court is capable of reviewing the Ruling of the CCT.

4. No where in jurisprudence, is a plaintiff permitted to sue a court as a party to the case, the only provision is to appeal its ruling.

5. The CCT is a specialized court similar to the Election petition Tribunals. Appeals from them go directly to the Court of Appeal. These tribunal panels comprise high court judges of coordinate jurisdiction.

6. An invitation of the high court judge to both parties, asking for them to show reason why they feel the high court should not issue an interlocutory injunction stopping CCT is no way an Interlocutory Injunction already.

7. Saraki's disregard of a substantive court summon in the absence of an Interlocutory Injunction was a direct request for a bench warrant.

While it is very clear that the CCT has given Saraki and his lawyers utmost respect and regard by withholding the bench warrant, believing that as a responsible citizen, he will honour the summons on Tuesday, let no one be in doubt about the CCT's utmost power to arrest, detain and lock behind bars, any accused person who shows open brigandage and disregard for the court's authority, no matter how highly placed.




This is a masterpiece, even though I never leaned towards ur analysis/argument. For this its a yes
Re: Where Saraki's Lawyers Goofed - By T0nyebarcanista by Badbreathcure81(m): 7:26am On Sep 22, 2015
T4taiwo:
Brilliant.
Nigerian lawyers are expert in twisting and misinterpreting the constitution to suit their pay master. Its very glaring even to the blind mind that Saraki err. You don't need to seek any black injunction if ur hands are clean...
what's the ensence of lawyers if they can't jump through hoops
Re: Where Saraki's Lawyers Goofed - By T0nyebarcanista by engineerboat(m): 7:41am On Sep 22, 2015
ready2learn:
If this is the true Barcanista; shocked.

this is fake cloned barcanista @tonyebarcanista is the real m oniker not T0noyebarcanista
Re: Where Saraki's Lawyers Goofed - By T0nyebarcanista by 2n2k(m): 7:57am On Sep 22, 2015
midolian:
This guy is so on point.

8.) You don't call a judge that presides over your case "incompetent". I am sure joseph Daudu will regret ever calling a hausa/fulani Judge "incompetent".

The same "incompetent" Justice Danladi Umar will be the one he and his paymaster(Saraki) will face tomorrow.

He didn't say the judge was incompetent. He said the tribunal was incompetent and gave his reasons.

The argument of the lawyer is that the tribunal is incompetent by composition as stated in the constitution which requires the panel to be the chairman and two other members instead of just the chairman and one member that sat. The judge noted his argument on Friday but did not rule on it. He therefore raised the issue again on Monday that the tribunal is incompetently constituted. The judge again noted his argument but ruled that another Law (which the judge quoted) allows the tribunal to form a quorum just with the chairman and one member.

'incompetent' was validly used legal term in the context and was properly understood by both the lawyer and the judge.
Re: Where Saraki's Lawyers Goofed - By T0nyebarcanista by soonest(f): 8:13am On Sep 22, 2015
modath:
grin grin, Na here be my real habitat grin, that our preggy & US thread na just waka pass..

I be full time shareholder.
You get mind o! Politics section is not for the lily-livered people at all.
Me i b visiting prof. Lol
Re: Where Saraki's Lawyers Goofed - By T0nyebarcanista by nikysmart007: 8:23am On Sep 22, 2015
[quote author=Abugab post=38243811]The points are valid and salient.
Saraki can't run away from this than to appear before CCT and defend himself.
The CCT should not succumb to the usual delay tactics of his lawyers as the whole process should be done as fast as possible because many more are still out here that needs to face the music.
One fact people tend to forget is that this administration has the VP as one of the best criminal justice lawyer and Prof. Sagay a foremost constitutional lawyer. Any thief brought out will hardly have any escape route because Falana will soon join them to put fire on all their buttocks.[no be small fire o..d guy is baking their bullcrap antidote ]

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Re: Where Saraki's Lawyers Goofed - By T0nyebarcanista by vanilson(m): 8:29am On Sep 22, 2015
Where are those Nigerians who appeared in their large numbers on this Forum to defend Saraki, their colleague in looting Nigeria?

They talked about absence of Minister and Attorney General's Signature. Talked about No warrant of Arrest. Talked about unqualified Deputy Director in the Justice Ministry.

What else would they talk about with the Rulings today in all the 3 Federal Courts.

Each day I wake-up, I thank God for the Defeat of Jonathan and the PDP by the very Reasonable and Vigilant Nigerians, especially from the South-West.

This is Saraki, a man the EFCC has had his case since he left office as Governor, used the Senate and the PDP to block the EFCC, maneuvered himself into Senate Presidency to block any possible attempt at his investigation and prosecution by any Government. Then, when the prosecution eventually came, he stupidly thought he could hoodwink Nigerians that are far more educated and learned than his little and wasted MBBS Degree.

The smart Lawyers around him have used the opportunity to rigmarole him around the Courts and extorted some big chunk out of his pocket, full of looted Kwara State Revenue.

He thinks the Judges at the CCT, Abuja High Court and the Appellate Court are not Intelligent. The 3 Courts would so mess him up to the extent that he would flee Nigeria immediately after release from Prison in 2025 (10 years, that's what the Criminal would get).

His Prison Time Sentence should be doubled for using Federal Government Resources to evade Arrest and Prosecution.

In a short while from now he will have his cap removed, get a clean shave and some white stuff to put-on and sit in one corner of a small prison room for some years, and enjoy plots Numbers this and that located at Victoria Island and Ikoyi Lagos, or Abuja.

Hardened Criminal!

Is that what you were taught in the Medical School? Looting of Public Revenue?

Tell Nigerians how much you've made from Medical Practice and how many Patients you've Managed since graduation.

His Prison time has come so that the WAR ON CORRUPTION (WAC) can start in full gear for the Birth of the Long Awaited New Nigeria that must surely come - trusting in the Determination of our New President.

I agree with Buhari, that HD Awolowo did not live a little longer to witness A NEW NIGERIA
Re: Where Saraki's Lawyers Goofed - By T0nyebarcanista by midolian(m): 8:59am On Sep 22, 2015
2n2k:


He didn't say the judge was incompetent. He said the tribunal was incompetent and gave his reasons.

The argument of the lawyer is that the tribunal is incompetent by composition as stated in the constitution which requires the panel to be the chairman and two other members instead of just the chairman and one member that sat. The judge noted his argument on Friday but did not rule on it. He therefore raised the issue again on Monday that the tribunal is incompetently constituted. The judge again noted his argument but ruled that another Law (which the judge quoted) allows the tribunal to form a quorum just with the chairman and one member.

'incompetent' was validly used legal term in the context and was properly understood by both the lawyer and the judge.
And who were the people that constituted the tribunal?
Re: Where Saraki's Lawyers Goofed - By T0nyebarcanista by modath(f): 9:27am On Sep 22, 2015
soonest:

You get mind o! Politics section is not for the lily-livered people at all.
Me i b visiting prof. Lol

My sis,your opinion matters & why are you scared to contribute?

Come in, state your opinion, respond to the sensible critical posts & keep it moving..

Never ever respond to hateful trolls, dem life dey sad, na enetertainment dem come for. smiley
Re: Where Saraki's Lawyers Goofed - By T0nyebarcanista by 2n2k(m): 10:28am On Sep 22, 2015
midolian:
And who were the people that constituted the tribunal?

Incompetent in this context simply means 'not properly constituted' and therefore not competent to sit over the case. It is neither abusive nor questioning the intellectual capacity of the members.

When some senators said the senate was incompetent to elect Saraki on June 10 because it was not properly constituted, does it mean individual senators are not competent?
Re: Where Saraki's Lawyers Goofed - By T0nyebarcanista by ismailaoladayo: 11:19am On Sep 22, 2015
When mugu fall guy man chop, when guy man fall lawyer and police waak. Some lawyers results to technicality when they know that their client has actually committed an offence, and that is the only way they can extort their client especially big fish like saraki, who knows how many millions saraki has put into joseph Daudu's acct?. Because saraki said yesterday that is non appearance was base on legal advice.
Re: Where Saraki's Lawyers Goofed - By T0nyebarcanista by megamank(m): 12:37pm On Sep 22, 2015
T0nyeBarcanista:
Many SANs, including Saraki's lawyers have critically complained about the CCT's disregard for the authority of the Federal High Court.

Let us ignore the fact that they later shot themselves in the feet when they realised their mistake and ran back to institute exactly the same matter at the Court of Appeal.

Apparently, Saraki's lawyers did not realise the following and may need to be schooled further on why their action at the Federal High Court was a nullity:

1. When you are charged to a court....any court at all....and you wish to challenge it's jurisdiction, you do so right in that same court.

2. If the CCT ignores your application and rules that it has jurisdiction, then you appeal its ruling.

3. The constitution has already clarified which court is capable of reviewing the Ruling of the CCT.

4. No where in jurisprudence, is a plaintiff permitted to sue a court as a party to the case, the only provision is to appeal its ruling.

5. The CCT is a specialized court similar to the Election petition Tribunals. Appeals from them go directly to the Court of Appeal. These tribunal panels comprise high court judges of coordinate jurisdiction.

6. An invitation of the high court judge to both parties, asking for them to show reason why they feel the high court should not issue an interlocutory injunction stopping CCT is no way an Interlocutory Injunction already.

7. Saraki's disregard of a substantive court summon in the absence of an Interlocutory Injunction was a direct request for a bench warrant.

While it is very clear that the CCT has given Saraki and his lawyers utmost respect and regard by withholding the bench warrant, believing that as a responsible citizen, he will honour the summons on Tuesday, let no one be in doubt about the CCT's utmost power to arrest, detain and lock behind bars, any accused person who shows open brigandage and disregard for the court's authority, no matter how highly placed.


Gbam..,......tonybarcanista you talk this one well o...... For a very long time you have once leave partisanship and spoken as a progressive minded educated and civilized Nigeria..........the war against that monster called corruption must stay and win......if it has to start with the SP as a case study that is to say there will be no hiding place for the others.
Re: Where Saraki's Lawyers Goofed - By T0nyebarcanista by FOREXMART(m): 6:29pm On Sep 22, 2015
T0nyeBarcanista:
Many SANs, including Saraki's lawyers have critically complained about the CCT's disregard for the authority of the Federal High Court.

Let us ignore the fact that they later shot themselves in the feet when they realised their mistake and ran back to institute exactly the same matter at the Court of Appeal.

Apparently, Saraki's lawyers did not realise the following and may need to be schooled further on why their action at the Federal High Court was a nullity:

1. When you are charged to a court....any court at all....and you wish to challenge it's jurisdiction, you do so right in that same court.

2. If the CCT ignores your application and rules that it has jurisdiction, then you appeal its ruling.

3. The constitution has already clarified which court is capable of reviewing the Ruling of the CCT.

4. No where in jurisprudence, is a plaintiff permitted to sue a court as a party to the case, the only provision is to appeal its ruling.

5. The CCT is a specialized court similar to the Election petition Tribunals. Appeals from them go directly to the Court of Appeal. These tribunal panels comprise high court judges of coordinate jurisdiction.

6. An invitation of the high court judge to both parties, asking for them to show reason why they feel the high court should not issue an interlocutory injunction stopping CCT is no way an Interlocutory Injunction already.

7. Saraki's disregard of a substantive court summon in the absence of an Interlocutory Injunction was a direct request for a bench warrant.

While it is very clear that the CCT has given Saraki and his lawyers utmost respect and regard by withholding the bench warrant, believing that as a responsible citizen, he will honour the summons on Tuesday, let no one be in doubt about the CCT's utmost power to arrest, detain and lock behind bars, any accused person who shows open brigandage and disregard for the court's authority, no matter how highly placed.

tamuno, Tamuno, tamunO, how many tubes I call you lol?
Re: Where Saraki's Lawyers Goofed - By T0nyebarcanista by rhames(m): 9:35am On Sep 23, 2015
agabusta:


You guys should stop looking at the statement from a sentimental point of view.

He used the term as a technical legal term to mean that the tribunal was not properly composed. He did not direct the 'not competent' statement at the Person of the chairman, but at the tribunal to mean that it was not properly constituted to try a case.

Although, he was wrong on the submission as two justices are sufficient to try a case, but I just need to clarify that we should not be too sentimental on this issue.

The defence counsel pretended by ignoring the fact initially. H

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