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The Relationship Between The Isoko And Ndiigbo( Ukwuani-anioma). by pazienza(m): 6:32pm On Sep 22, 2015
Most part of this thread was culled from Osita Mordi's write up in Proudly Anioma proudly Igbo thread in Facebook, and was inspired by this thread:
https://www.nairaland.com/2603525/open-appeal-all-tribal-bigots/2#38094331
The aim is to show how Ndiigbo( Ukwuani-Anioma) accommodated and Assimilated Isoko elements in the past.
Re: The Relationship Between The Isoko And Ndiigbo( Ukwuani-anioma). by pazienza(m): 6:34pm On Sep 22, 2015
[b] A LOOK INTO THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE IGBO AND ISOKO PEOPLES OF NIGERIA.
PART 4
4)ISOKO COMMUNITIES OF ANIOMA:
In a ward of Ndokwa East often identified as Ibrede ward, are several communities which are of Isoko origin and some still speak a dialect of Isoko. Let us go through a sampling of these communities.
1)IBREDE- According to PV Main, the Colonial Officer n his Intelligence Report and other sources, Ibrede was founded in the late 1700s by one Ugbo who migrated from Onyah kingdom. He brought with him a deity called “ULOHO” which is believed to inhabit a tree along a river. Some two generations after, one Olubeko who migrated from Iyede brought with him a large group of refugees from Iyede. It was said that the regaining Ovie of Iyede had ordered a group of people to catch an Iroko tree which his slaves were cutting. The tree fell and killed several people and this display of wickedness forced many Iyede people to leave and they settled at Ugbo’s settlement where his grandson received them and gave them land to settle. This was in about 1850. Today, Ibrede is primarily divided into Etevie(Iyede settlers) who make up about 85 per cent of the population and Uruebo(Ugbo descendants) who are of Onyah(Igbo) origin who are about 15 per cent of the population. All the principal deities of Onyah are held by the Uruebo people. Uruebo also owns over 90 per cent of the land in Ibrede. This had been confirmed by the courts. Although everyone now speaks Isoko, Uruebo people are conscious of their Aboh(Igbo) origin. While they have an Okpala-Uku in charge of their section, their Isoko counterparts have an Odionlogbo. Despite their smaller numbers , Ugbo family wield a lot of influence in Ibrede ; all the lands east of Ase Creek as well as a good chunk of the territory west of the river belongs to the family including areas with oil and gas discoveries. This is despite constituting less than one-sixth of the community’s population. This is the source of the communal problems in Ibrede. Ibrede is not an entire Isoko community as its often claimed. The community marks the ULOHO festival in which masquerades are fired at with guns and it does not penetrate. The settlement of Obodo-Okorafor (called Ewho-Okrafor) by Isokos belongs to Ibrede. The name Okorafor is yet another evidence that Ibrede is not entirely Isoko. In fact based on land –ownership, it is an Aboh community. [/b]
Re: The Relationship Between The Isoko And Ndiigbo( Ukwuani-anioma). by pazienza(m): 6:37pm On Sep 22, 2015
[b] 2)IGBUKU-There is also this claim Igbuku is an Isoko community in Ndokwa East. It was never in the past and cannot be the situation. Both Isoko and Aboh(Igbo) are spoken but the community was founded by a group of migrants from Afor, an ancient town in Ndokwa East in about 1800. They first settled near the black-colored Ebe lake where they moved over the Ase Creek to the present site. Thereafter, a group of Ijaw people from Ondoni, a town in Bayelsa State came to join them. These Ijaw people within a generation were assimilated as Aboh people. Then in about 1870, some Isoko people mainly from Ellu led by one Onabuke came to join them. These Ellu people were followed by other Isoko and even Ukwuani people. Thus Igbuku has a diverse origin when compared to Ibrede though its smaller. There is little or nothing in Igbuku to suggest its an Isoko clan. There are cults of masquerades which is not a feature of the culture in Isoko and it abounds in Igbuku. The ruler of Igbuku is titled “OZU” and the present occupant is HRH, Eze Blessing Chukuka Omem. His royal greeting is AGBADOGU. Apart from Igbuku town , Igbuku villages include Ovara, Oko, Oka, Ughelli, Edoni, Ogbelogbo and Ogbe. In Igbuku town are quarters like Ogbasaba, Ogbeomoku, Obikwele, Uriede, Ogbeuku, Umia and Igala.
3)ONOGBOKOR-This little settlement tuck somewhere between Umuolu and Akarai clans was recently recognized by the Delta State government as a clan with Akporeha I as its Odionlogbo. They arrived from Okpe-Isoko sometime in about 1870 and settled in Umuolu territory. The founder was one Edo. Onogbokor has three villages namely Ushie, Ogbe-Ekpako and Ove. In addition to Isoko, they also speak Aboh dialects.
4)AWA and ANYAMA
These two settlements lie along the Ase river axis. Tradition holds that Awa and Anyama were founded by two brothers namely Ozegbe and Oza in about 1830. They first settled at Awa but due to constant Ijaw raiders , Ozegbe moved over to a new site across the river to have a better view of the river and have a fore-knowledge of any possible Ijaw attack. This settlement he named Anyama. The meaning is self-explanatory in Igbo. Later , a large group of Iyede refugees led by one Isume arrived in about 1870. It is apparent that it was the same reason that drove the earlier Iyede refugees which were squatted at Ibrede, that drove this group to Awa. They arrived in about 1860 and were received by Oza who was the ruling elder in Awa. Soon the descendants of the Iyede people outnumbered the descendants of Oza or the Aboh people and for this reason, Awa soon transformed into an Isoko speaking community. The originality of Anyama is still intact. It remains Igbo speaking. Ogige , a settlement with which acted as an old trading settlement with European traders especially trade in palm-oil belongs to Anyama. An Okpala-Uku from Anyama and Oza family of Awa I in charge of this clan. [/b]
Re: The Relationship Between The Isoko And Ndiigbo( Ukwuani-anioma). by pazienza(m): 6:40pm On Sep 22, 2015
[b] 5)IYEDE-AME and LAGOS-IYEDE- About one generation after Isume and his group had settled in Awa in about 1880, disputes arose between members of the settlers in Awa. Soon of them , a large chunk migrated and crossed the Ase River. They settled on Azagba(a town in Ibedeni clan) land after they were granted rights to settle there by Azagba community. Azagba which is far bigger and is Igbo speaking are traditionally perceived as the landlords of the Iyede-Ame people. With the rise in population and modern concepts of equality of people no matter how or in what manner they came from, Iyede-Ame is beginning to assert its rights and in some cases had disputes over fishing lakes with their Azagba landlords. Lagos-Iyede is so named after it was founded by Christian Missionary Society CMS members from Iyede-Ame. Its also located in Azagba land. Its not considered a distinct community from Azagba.
6)OSAFO- It belongs to Ibedeni clan. Ibedeni is an Igbo speaking clan in Ndokwa East geographically close to Isoko land and was founded in the seventeenth century CE (ca. 1650) by a group which is believed to have originated from Benin. As time went on , in the mid 1700s, some Ibedeni people crossed the Ase river to found Azagba and Ekpemili(Ekpe for short). Both Azagba and Ekpe hosts Isoko settlers like Iyede-Ame and Ige. Osafo on the other hand though its Isoko speaking was founded in the same process. It was founded by Ibedeni men who had married Isoko wives. These women passed their language to their children. Nonetheless, Osafo is fully a part of Ibedeni.
7)IGE- This is now placed as a part of Isoko North LGA. However, it was founded by Okpe-Isoko settlers who were settled on Ekpe land. It ought to be a part of Ndokwa East. That territory is not Isoko land. Isoko land only touches the Ase river at Ivrogbo-Irri , where there is a large market attracting Igbo and Isoko traders.
coolITEBIEGE-This was also founded by Okpe-Isoko people. It was founded on Onyah land. They just like Ige are governed by Isoko North. It ought to be a part of Ndokwa East. Evidence of this claim is that to this day, fishes caught in Itebiege lakes are shared with Onyah who are their customary landlords. [/b]
Re: The Relationship Between The Isoko And Ndiigbo( Ukwuani-anioma). by pazienza(m): 6:43pm On Sep 22, 2015
[b] )OSEKWENIKE Area- This area lies south of Onyah town and is located in Bayelsa State. It was founded by Isoko settlers from several parts of Isoko land. It is often called OKUGBE-ISOKO and it covers four or five villages such as Ikpide, Osekwenike, Abuetor, and Osifo. They are settlers in Onyah territory and there are enough evidences to prove Onyah owns the entire area now placed as part of Bayelsa State.
10) There are other Isoko settlements such as Egbeme( in Ase clan but settlers from Aviara); Warri-Irri (in Utuoku clan but settlers from Irri) and Umuti( settlers from various Isoko clans but in Akarai clan land).
These Isoko communities are gradually being assimilated into Igbo speaking communities. There was once a call for some Isoko-conscious elements who had kicked against their inclusion in Ndokwa East or the proposed Anioma State. It is important for these Isoko-conscious people to remember that they are not the only late settler groups in Ndokwa East. There are as well people of Ijaw origin in Umuolu and other places but these are fully assimilated. There are also many people of Isoko origin fully assimilated too. It will therefore serve them well and win the trust of people who by history were their landlords to trust them and fully assimilate them. Besides apart from West bank Ibrede , the area is not contiguous to Isoko land. But Ibrede also has its own peculiarities, its an Isoko speaking town with a land-owning class of Igbo origin who are conscious of the fact that they are not Isoko. It is important therefore that the Isoko elements within Isoko homeland in the present Isoko North and Isoko South should not stir up ethnic flame in Ndokwa East which could lead to some problems. It is important for them to understand that the entire Isoko nation is largely descendants of people of Igbo origin. The Ndoshimili hosts of NDOKWA East should as well not give any room for their Isoko counterparts to believe they are not wanted in the area. The process of assimilation should go on. It is important to note that many proud Ndokwa people today many conscious of their Igbo identity are of Isoko origin and vice versa in the Isoko area. [/b]
Re: The Relationship Between The Isoko And Ndiigbo( Ukwuani-anioma). by pazienza(m): 6:48pm On Sep 22, 2015
The Ukwuani region sheltered too many Isoko settlers in a time past, most of these Isokos have assimilated fully into the Ukwuani/ Ndokwa Igbo culture, by Adopting Igbo names culture and traditions of Ukwuani aboriginals, while some of them retained their Original Isoko nature, but most of these people know of a truth that they are not of Igbo lineage.

And I suspect that some of these "my papa say we no be Ibo people", might actually be right. It could be true that they are not Igbos, but it is also true that the land they presently occupy is Igboland, and the Ukwuani aboriginals from those lands will always remain true to their Igbo nature.

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Re: The Relationship Between The Isoko And Ndiigbo( Ukwuani-anioma). by bigfrancis21: 7:02pm On Sep 22, 2015
Interesting article. It is interesting to read of communities and towns ancestrally found by Igbo-speaking people's which would not readily accept today that they were founded by Igbos. Several non-Igbo speaking communities (Ijaw, Ibibio, Isoko etc.) in the Niger Delta were originally founded by Igbos but due to rampant Igbophobia today, these communities would flatly deny any Igbo ancestry or connection to the Igbos. The Igbos are still suffering from the effects of the loss after the Civil war till today.

Urhobos even say 'biko' for please. I don't think they would want to easily accept that they borrowed the word from Igbos.

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Re: The Relationship Between The Isoko And Ndiigbo( Ukwuani-anioma). by Nobody: 7:04pm On Sep 22, 2015
Hian,this is serious oo shocked

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Re: The Relationship Between The Isoko And Ndiigbo( Ukwuani-anioma). by Donarozzi: 7:31pm On Sep 22, 2015
pazienza:
A LOOK INTO THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE IGBO AND ISOKO PEOPLES

Just see the map below. Igbo constitutes about 36% of Delta State land mass. Isoko is grouped as part of Urhobo.

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Re: The Relationship Between The Isoko And Ndiigbo( Ukwuani-anioma). by darfay: 4:52am On Sep 23, 2015
Corrections
~ nobody assimiliated 2 anything.its. actually the other way round.they speak isoko language,put on the isoko. attires,the eat our delicacies(uzi,owho,ibiedi,okodo etc),religious beliefs(oghene as the supreme God) & uloho sounds isoko.


~if we go by ur logic here,u find out that the isokos were exapading into ukwale/igbo areas. I think the british came @ d genesis of our expansion. I'd not for civilisation nd colonization would probably had expanded as far as aniocha/oshimili entering into neighbouring rivers state,eating deeper into bayelsa making us the largest ethnic group in the ss


~there is nothing lyk customary tenants. Your igboid cousins must have lost their lands through war nd I guess they are still bitter bout it.or u go help den collect rent


~that ur fishing. Story get k-leg.hw persin catch fish finish con datch am to ur neighbour e put juju for mouth if so uno go slap am commot for him mouth



~those communities are border communities nd mist border communities are bilingual(world wide). Ikiagbodo an ijaw town in delta speaks both ijaw nd urhobo



~isokos are the third largest ethnic group in delta state(urhobo,enuani ibos,isoko,ika,ukwale,ijaw,itsekiri).so how will the isokos @ d border lose there Lang. Md culture to a sparsely populated ikwale wen neighboured by their densely populated brothers?



~the isokos make up more than 15% of ndokwa east nd should be rightly renamed ndokwa/isoko lga



~now if the isokos in ndokwa east wants to be assimilated into isoko south y kill urself bout it after all dey ain't with an albino behind a violent inspiring radio station



~i think we are better empire builders than the binis.if they had adopted our style of expansion nd language spread the bini language would probably b d 4thlargest

~we gonna take over that lga nd speaking their language is of advantage to us coz we gonna be producing the next anioma gov


~the ukwales are not even igbos nd don't blame the isoks there as u did earlier in previous post it's not their fault that they were carved into that lga just lyk igbos in bernue. O put ur house in order in love out of ur anioma being igbo rubish


~ all those towns are part of the ISoKo DeVELOPMeNT UNiOn(idu)







~

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Re: The Relationship Between The Isoko And Ndiigbo( Ukwuani-anioma). by IamAtribalist: 5:00am On Sep 23, 2015
Anyone who says that the Igbos 'FOUNDED' the Ijaw communities is an absolute fool.

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Re: The Relationship Between The Isoko And Ndiigbo( Ukwuani-anioma). by tonychristopher: 5:03am On Sep 23, 2015
darfay:
Corrections
~ nobody assimiliated 2 anything.its. actually the other way round.they speak isoko language,put on the isoko. attires,the eat our delicacies(uzi,owho,ibiedi,okodo etc),religious beliefs(oghene as the supreme God) & uloho sounds isoko.


~if we go by ur logic here,u find out that the isokos were exapading into ukwale/igbo areas. I think the british came @ d genesis of our expansion. I'd not for civilisation nd colonization would probably had expanded as far as aniocha/oshimili entering into neighbouring rivers state,eating deeper into bayelsa making us the largest ethnic group in the ss


~there is nothing lyk customary tenants. Your igboid cousins must have lost their lands through war nd I guess they are still bitter bout it.or u go help den collect rent


~that ur fishing. Story get k-leg.hw persin catch fish finish con datch am to ur neighbour e put juju for mouth if so uno go slap am commot for him mouth



~those communities are border communities nd mist border communities are bilingual(world wide). Ikiagbodo an ijaw town in delta speaks both ijaw nd urhobo



~isokos are the third largest ethnic group in delta state(urhobo,enuani ibos,isoko,ika,ukwale,ijaw,itsekiri).so how will the isokos @ d border lose there Lang. Md culture to a sparsely populated ikwale wen neighboured by their densely populated brothers?



~the isokos make up more than 15% of ndokwa east nd should be rightly renamed ndokwa/isoko lga



~now if the isokos in ndokwa east wants to be assimilated into isoko south y kill urself bout it after all dey ain't with an albino behind a violent inspiring radio station



~i think we are better empire builders than the binis.if they had adopted our style of expansion nd language spread the bini language would probably b d 4thlargest

~we gonna take over that lga nd speaking their language is of advantage to us coz we gonna be producing the next anioma gov


~the ukwales are not even igbos nd don't blame the isoks there as u did earlier in previous post it's not their fault that they were carved into that lga just lyk igbos in bernue. O put ur house in order in love out of ur anioma being igbo rubish


~ all those towns are part of the ISoKo DeVELOPMeNT UNiOn(idu)







~
Ogogoro induced submission ...isoko wey get few local government and to you ukwani isn't Igbo. They are Latino

All these sobo tribes can be nasty shaaa

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Re: The Relationship Between The Isoko And Ndiigbo( Ukwuani-anioma). by tonychristopher: 5:06am On Sep 23, 2015
bigfrancis21:
Interesting article. It is interesting to read of communities and towns ancestrally found by Igbo-speaking people's which would not readily accept today that they were founded by Igbos. Several non-Igbo speaking communities (Ijaw, Ibibio, Isoko etc.) in the Niger Delta were originally founded by Igbos but due to rampant Igbophobia today, these communities would flatly deny any Igbo ancestry or connection to the Igbos. The Igbos are still suffering from the effects of the loss after the Civil war till today.

Urhobos even say 'biko' for please. I don't think they would want to easily accept that they borrowed the word from Igbos.

Not only biko

They call obala for blood
Ngashi for spoon.
Onwuro for he is dead


A lot of many Igbo word...I had isoko colleague then and lived in warri

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Re: The Relationship Between The Isoko And Ndiigbo( Ukwuani-anioma). by darfay: 5:15am On Sep 23, 2015
~ibrede: is an igbide town not iyede(nd dat tree stuff is abig joke was is supposed to be funny coz it's not) nd having madqurades is no suprise coz their parent community has one of the most rigorous masqurade dance nd ibrede is entirely isoko now cc BensonAKW


~igbuku; is a town belonging to ellu clan .the daily language of communication but ukwale names are common. A frend of my dad was from ther



~onogbokor; 100% irri,100% isoko no customary rubbish


~Anya,Anyama,ogige; these are all isoko towns though anyama might min sometin else in igbo it is till an isoko town so go hang urself



~iyede ame nd lagos iyede; these are towns belonging to the iyede clan.even azagba,ibedeni speaks isoko language wella



~osafo; 100% isoko



~itebiege,rgbeme,warri irri,umuti are also 100% isoko towns


~osekwenike; are no customary tenant ,it is the HQ of okugbe isoko kingdom nd isoko. communities in bayelsa with the exception of anibaze. It is also the seat of the ovie of okugbe isoko kingom
Re: The Relationship Between The Isoko And Ndiigbo( Ukwuani-anioma). by darfay: 5:24am On Sep 23, 2015
Pazienza fooooli thought u opened this thread to a showcase the numrous cultural resemblance of the afformentioned tribes. U are not even being from delta state but here you are trying to rip the state apart,dividing the state into sectional lines which could leas to ethnic nd communial clashes






Shame. On you
Re: The Relationship Between The Isoko And Ndiigbo( Ukwuani-anioma). by darfay: 5:32am On Sep 23, 2015
@ satanic pazienza pls don't ever mention the isokos in your entire lyf again nd pls don't make me call u the bastarddd son of a trillion father

Nxt tym go pick on someone ur own size nd wat u just did was ti prove our dominance over ur iboid cuzins

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Re: The Relationship Between The Isoko And Ndiigbo( Ukwuani-anioma). by darfay: 5:34am On Sep 23, 2015
IamAtribalist:
Anyone who says that the Igbos 'FOUNDED' the Ijaw communities is an absolute fool.

No mind them na bastard them b

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Re: The Relationship Between The Isoko And Ndiigbo( Ukwuani-anioma). by tonychristopher: 6:38am On Sep 23, 2015
darfay:


Get d behind me u devil






#nd if u quote me again esiemo nd ekwensu go join hand render u impotent #
What if anadioha ,ibinu ukpabi in collaboration with esu and featuring iblis will make you suffer ibi if you respond to this quote

Ibi is one fine number in igbo that serves as a punishment.. Ibi in layman terms can be likened to elephantiasis of the bloko
Go ask questions


U know it aint good for a man

So don't respond Bro
Re: The Relationship Between The Isoko And Ndiigbo( Ukwuani-anioma). by pazienza(m): 8:03am On Sep 23, 2015
Lol! Aboh was a strong Kingdom, it covered the whole of the Ukwuani area in the height of her glory.

Aboh was a ruthless kingdom, your Isoko stood no chance of taking any land from her via conquest.

You were only accommodated in Ndokwa lands as refugees, just as Europe is currently accommodating Arabs.

The Isoko speaking people in Ndokwaland are descendants of these Isoko refugees, And most of them are Bilingual now, speaking both Isoko and Ukwuani.


When the time is right, they would have the option to become fully "Ukwuanized" or simply migrate back to Isokoland, the land of their ancestors.

The Igbide an Originally Igbo speaking people who migrated into Isoko lands had since "Isokonized", your Isoko cousins in Ndokwalands in the end will have to "Ukwuanize" or simply migrate back to where ever they came from


By the way, the opening article of this thread was written by an Igbo of Anioma extraction, ie he is Deltan but also proudly Igbo.

It was culled from the facebook group, " proudly Anioma, proudly Igbo". The admin of that Facebook group is an Ukwuani man, you can join us there if you wish, I am sure that you will be better schooled by Ndokwas/ Ukwuanis themselves.

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Re: The Relationship Between The Isoko And Ndiigbo( Ukwuani-anioma). by darfay: 9:08am On Sep 23, 2015
pazienza:
Lol! Aboh was a strong Kingdom, it covered the whole of the Ukwuani area in the height of her glory.

Aboh was a ruthless kingdom, your Isoko stood no chance of taking any land from her via conquest.

You were only accommodated in Ndokwa lands as refugees, just as Europe is currently accommodating Arabs.

The Isoko speaking people in Ndokwaland are descendants of these Isoko refugees, And most of them are Bilingual now, speaking both Isoko and Ukwuani.


When the time is right, they would have the option to become fully "Ukwuanized" or simply migrate back to Isokoland, the land of their ancestors.

The Igbide an Originally Igbo speaking people who migrated into Isoko lands had since "Isokonized", your Isoko cousins in Ndokwalands in the end will have to "Ukwuanize" or simply migrate back to where ever they came from


By the way, the opening article of this thread was written by an Igbo of Anioma extraction, ie he is Deltan but also proudly Igbo.

It was culled from the facebook group, " proudly Anioma, proudly Igbo". The admin of that Facebook group is an Ukwuani man, you can join us there if you wish, I am sure that you will be better schooled by Ndokwas/ Ukwuanis themselves.

You are a big lunatic u can take machine guns with u ask dem to quit their ancestral land


Ask ur fellow igbo lunatics parading ask ukwales on Facebook their vallages nxt tym they spew thrash

Y are u so kin on a minority tribe lyk isoko droping their language for ur own nd the yet isoko languages kips on expanding eastwards into igbo areas. Isokos are more than ukwales (isoko south[third largest by population jst after ughelli north nd warri south] is more populated than ndokwa east nd ukwani combined with lots of change for ndokwa west even without adding isoko north) so I don't think any isoko towns can b igbonized by their smallker neighbours. It's even in the ndokwa east lga website that the most spoken languages are ukwale nd isoko google(when fished google searching make sure to be a good pig nd confirm on this forum or else ejwensu nd amadioha will follow u day nd night)is ur friend nd so wance against proves that that it actually an isokonization going on after all nobody speaks ukwale in isoko south nd north. Lga


Take a bus from asaba drop @ ozoro. From ozoro they will they tell u how to get to ibrede nd from ibrede u will b able to xplore all this boder community. You take wit u a book nd a pen knock @ every house (remember to digwe for the elders there) ask them their ethnicity . I actually. Cced a guy from one of those towns

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Re: The Relationship Between The Isoko And Ndiigbo( Ukwuani-anioma). by darfay: 9:19am On Sep 23, 2015
It shall not b well with any body that says an old man like pazienza would not be sensible nd would remain a tribal nd igbocentric bigot all is lyf nd even going as far as throwing the keys to his problems inside the Pacific ocean
Re: The Relationship Between The Isoko And Ndiigbo( Ukwuani-anioma). by Donarozzi: 2:16pm On Sep 23, 2015
pazienza:
)OSEKWENIKE Area- This area lies south of Onyah town and is located in Bayelsa State. They are settlers in Onyah territory and there are enough evidences to prove Onyah owns the entire area now placed as part of Bayelsa State.

Igbo leaders, Ohanaeze, World Igbo Congress (WIC), Igbo World Assembly (IWA) and well-meaning Igbo citizens should rise up and demand that all Igbo communities must be unified together in one geopolitical region. This can be achieved through state creation and boundary adjustment. Igbo communities outside the South-East region should be carved into the adjacent Igbo state of the South-East. The Igbo areas of Rivers state including the islands of Bonny and Opobo should get their own state and join the South-East. With particular reference to the proposed Anioma State, Igbo leaders should make sure that the indigenous Igbo communities in Edo state and the indigenous Igbo communities in Bayelsa state are carved into Anioma, which will be the next state for the South-East.

Look at the map below to see the portion of Igboland that was carved into Bayelsa.

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Re: The Relationship Between The Isoko And Ndiigbo( Ukwuani-anioma). by pazienza(m): 7:08pm On Sep 23, 2015
Donarozzi:


Igbo leaders, Ohanaeze, World Igbo Congress (WIC), Igbo World Assembly (IWA) and well-meaning Igbo citizens should rise up and demand that all Igbo communities must be unified together in one geopolitical region. This can be achieved through state creation and boundary adjustment. Igbo communities outside the South-East region should be carved into the adjacent Igbo state of the South-East. The Igbo areas of Rivers state including the islands of Bonny and Opobo should get their own state and join the South-East. With particular reference to the proposed Anioma State, Igbo leaders should make sure that the indigenous Igbo communities in Edo state and the indigenous Igbo communities in Bayelsa state are carved into Anioma, which will be the next state for the South-East.

Look at the map below to see the portion of Igboland that was carved into Bayelsa.

Nothing much can be achieved if Ndiigbo remain part of Nigeria, that boundary adjustment is never going to happen. Realists know this.

Btw, nice map. Can you give me the link to that map.
Re: The Relationship Between The Isoko And Ndiigbo( Ukwuani-anioma). by pazienza(m): 7:17pm On Sep 23, 2015
darfay:
It shall not b well with any body that says an old man like pazienza would not be sensible nd would remain a tribal nd igbocentric bigot all is lyf nd even going as far as throwing the keys to his problems inside the Pacific ocean

It's obvious you never took any time to go through the opening article of this thread, either that, or you lack comprehension skills.

Thank you for your time. Now you can allow other knowledgeable members of this forum to contribute to this thread.

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Re: The Relationship Between The Isoko And Ndiigbo( Ukwuani-anioma). by Nobody: 3:22pm On Sep 24, 2015
tonychristopher:

Ogogoro induced submission ...isoko wey get few local government and to you ukwani isn't Igbo. They are Latino

All these sobo tribes can be nasty shaaa

Which few local government, Isoko has only two LGs with population of less than 50k people.

From Ozoro to Owhe is like 15mins drive scantily populated, after Owhelogbo to Owhe is Emevor next is Iyede all sleepy villages that make up Isoko North.

Isoko South with Oleh as the major town there, from Ozoro roundabout to Oleh is filled with bushes and swamps, Umeh, Aviarra, Ewhe etc are all sleepy villages with good roads tha only see Hilux of oil companies zoom past after every 3 hours
The entire Isoko is too small to be one LG self

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Re: The Relationship Between The Isoko And Ndiigbo( Ukwuani-anioma). by tonychristopher: 5:59pm On Sep 24, 2015
BuddahMonk:


Which few local government, Isoko has only two LGs with population of less than 50k people.

From Ozoro to Owhe is like 15mins drive scantily populated, after Owhelogbo to Owhe is Emevor next is Iyede all sleepy villages that make up Isoko North.

Isoko South with Oleh as the major town there, from Ozoro roundabout to Oleh is filled with bushes and swamps, Umeh, Aviarra, Ewhe etc are all sleepy villages with good roads tha only see Hilux of oil companies zoom past after every 3 hours
The entire Isoko is too small to be one LG self


I was thinking that they were upto 1 million people seff

Thanks for the Clarification
Re: The Relationship Between The Isoko And Ndiigbo( Ukwuani-anioma). by scholes0(m): 9:46pm On Sep 24, 2015
pazienza:


Nothing much can be achieved if Ndiigbo remain part of Nigeria, that boundary adjustment is never going to happen. Realists know this.

Btw, nice map. Can you give me the link to that map.

He would only show you the map of other states... he won't show you that os Abia or Ebonyi or Enugu, Etc for example, that all contain huge swathes of no-Igbo Lands.

Re: The Relationship Between The Isoko And Ndiigbo( Ukwuani-anioma). by pazienza(m): 10:07pm On Sep 24, 2015
scholes0:

He would only show you the map of other states... he won't show you that os Abia or Ebonyi or Enugu, Etc for example, that all contain huge swathes of no-Igbo Lands.

Your map is a joke. There are no non Igbo speaking community in Abia state. Non.

Ebonyi has Ntezi and Effium as the only non Igbo speaking towns, and both towns are completely surrounded by the Igbo speaking tribes of Ezza, Izzi and Ikwo, they are assimilating fast and furious into the Igbo culture, most of them now Speak Igbo language and Answer Igbo names.

Enugu only has one town with non Igbos, the town's name is Ette, it has Igala, Idoma settlers co habiting with Igbo aboriginals.

Whoever gave you that map is high on weed, imagine insinuating that the whole of Ikwuano LGA of Abia state is a non Igbo speaking area, does the person even know the meaning of "Ikwuano"?

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Re: The Relationship Between The Isoko And Ndiigbo( Ukwuani-anioma). by scholes0(m): 10:10pm On Sep 24, 2015
Yesss...... Typical response, kinda expected that.
All the communities in the SE states must be igbo.... but all those so called igbo communities in the other states are legit.

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Re: The Relationship Between The Isoko And Ndiigbo( Ukwuani-anioma). by ChinenyeN(m): 10:16pm On Sep 24, 2015
I can't speak for those other maps, but being a native of the region administratively called 'Abia' and also knowing the location of my hometown as well as being well-versed in my people's oral traditions, I can say with certainty that the demographic being represented by the Abia map is categorically incorrect.

For the record, my hometown falls in the region being demarcated on this map as 'Ibibio'.

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