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Preacher Claims He's Jesus: Even Greater? by Free(f): 2:00pm On Oct 07, 2006
This preacher
proclaims to be[b] the second coming ----Jesus Christ and Even greater than Jesus[/b]( can U imagine)
He doesnt believe in Sin, heaven or hell ,Prayer, paying tithe (but excepts donations)
and he believes all religion must be destroyed
he got millions of followers who believe him

sign of the end times??


watch da video 4 Urself

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=037HvQ1TyGM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3bH-J7Z2QI&mode=related&search=

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1u6dVKu5dlM&NR
Re: Preacher Claims He's Jesus: Even Greater? by Seun(m): 2:17pm On Oct 07, 2006
What is this preacher's name and is there a news article we can read to learn more about him/her?
Some of us don't have broadband!
Re: Preacher Claims He's Jesus: Even Greater? by Free(f): 2:31pm On Oct 07, 2006
his name is
Jose Luis de Jesus Miranda


http://www.cegenglish.com/
Re: Preacher Claims He's Jesus: Even Greater? by otokx(m): 2:43pm On Oct 07, 2006
I saw the joker on CNN complete with bodyguards and all even inside his own church building.
Re: Preacher Claims He's Jesus: Even Greater? by emmanboy: 2:55pm On Oct 07, 2006
i dont think its agood idea to say , girls are dirty its not all the girls that are so dirty some are very neater than some guys out there, so its not a good idea to say girls are so dirty,
Re: Preacher Claims He's Jesus: Even Greater? by dblock(m): 3:37pm On Oct 07, 2006
emmanboy:

i don't think its a good idea to say , girls are dirty its not all the girls that are so dirty some are very neater than some guys out there, so its not a good idea to say girls are so dirty,

what the heaven, anyways this preacher let him be it's only natural for someone to try make money out of such a sham, unless he actually really really does think he's Jesus or greater then he would either be a phsyco or a possesed fool, Mol (male version of Lol) grin
Re: Preacher Claims He's Jesus: Even Greater? by 4getme1(m): 10:52am On Jan 22, 2007
It just only goes to show once again that we're living in the end times -

For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
- Matthew 24:5
Re: Preacher Claims He's Jesus: Even Greater? by trinigirl1(f): 12:57pm On Jan 22, 2007
Reminds me of a story I read on Ghanaweb where the preacher said he would walk on water like Jesus Christ.



"African Evangelist drowns walking on water

An evangelist who tried replicating Jesus' miracle of walking on water has reportedly drowned off the western coast of Africa.

Pastor Franck Kabele, 35, told his congregation he could repeat the biblical miracle, and he attempted it from a beach in Gabon's capital of Libreville.

"He told churchgoers he'd had a revelation that if he had enough faith, he could walk on water like Jesus," an eyewitness told the Glasgow Daily Record.

"He took his congregation to the beach saying he would walk across the Komo estuary, which takes 20 minutes by boat. He walked into the water, which soon passed over his head and he never came back.""
Re: Preacher Claims He's Jesus: Even Greater? by 4getme1(m): 2:17pm On Jan 22, 2007
It's interesting how many people want to prove themselves to be greater than their calling. Reminds me of the popular Daniel of Ibadan who dared the lions and ended up as a snack in their mouth! grin
Re: Preacher Claims He's Jesus: Even Greater? by Nobody: 6:27pm On Jan 22, 2007
How about the Church here in America where the members work themselves into a frenzy then bring out poisonous rattlesnakes believing that afterall the Bible says they shall handle snakes and it shall not harm them.
Some have been maimed and some died in the process.
Re: Preacher Claims He's Jesus: Even Greater? by Gwaine(m): 6:31pm On Jan 22, 2007
Well, these cases go to show that the proponents have no revelation of God's Word and only oushed their own agenda to disastrous ends. Lord have mercy!
Re: Preacher Claims He's Jesus: Even Greater? by mrpataki(m): 6:37pm On Jan 22, 2007
babyosisi:

How about the Church here in America where the members work themselves into a frenzy then bring out poisonous rattlesnakes believing that afterall the Bible says they shall handle snakes and it shall not harm them.
Some have been maimed and some died in the process.

The devil is really at work here. embarassed
Re: Preacher Claims He's Jesus: Even Greater? by Nobody: 6:38pm On Jan 22, 2007
This is London Kentucky not England.


Woman bitten by snake at church dies
Lexington Herald-Leader

[b]November 06, 2006

She said she was bitten by a snake at her church A London woman is dead after being bitten by a snake during a Sunday church service, the Laurel County Sheriff's Office said yesterday.

Neighbors near East London Holiness Church on Smith Brewer Road, which officials said the 48-year-old attended, said the church practices serpent handling.

The name of the woman was withheld yesterday as the Laurel County Sheriff's Office investigated the death, which police described as accidental.

Friends escorted the woman to a local hospital Sunday afternoon, Lt. Ed Sizemore said.

'She said she was bitten by a snake at her church,' Sizemore said.

The woman was taken to University of Kentucky Medical Center, where she was pronounced dead at 11:30 p.m., almost four hours after the bite was reported.

Sizemore said he thinks the woman was bitten by a timber rattlesnake. He did not know if the woman practiced snake handling.

Snake handling is based on a passage in the Bible, in the Gospel of Mark, that says a sign of a true believer is the power to 'take up serpents' without being harmed.

It is illegal in Kentucky to handle reptiles as part of religious services. Snake handling is a misdemeanor and punishable by a $50-$100 fine.

Opal Wagers lives near the church on Smith Brewer Road and said it's been two or three months since she last visited the church, but said she's witnessed snake handling there.

'I don't have no dealings with those snakes,' Wagers said. 'But they seem to handle them pretty good.'

She said people fill the church at least one Sunday each month to handle snakes. Wagers said members from Kentucky, Tennessee and Virginia bring in the snakes.

Police said they had not received reports about snake handling at the church.

No church officials could be reached for comment last night.

In 2000, the Herald-Leader reported that the last person to die in Kentucky from a snakebite sustained during a religious service was in 1997.

The death of Daril R. Collins, 23, of Barbourville, was the sixth such death in the state since 1980.

Copyright © 2006 Lexington Herald-Leader, All Rights Reserved. [/b]
Re: Preacher Claims He's Jesus: Even Greater? by jerrymania(m): 1:05am On Jan 23, 2007
Ah another fake idiot.
I know that Christ Jesus will come on the last day in a cloud of glory and every eye shall see him. But that day and hour no man knows but Almighty God Father of Jesus. the day will come like a thief in the night. So its going to be swift on how rapture and possible transfiguration from the fleshy skin into spirit will occur. Nah! Jesus Christ wont go on another teaching spree again!
This Guy, Jose Luis is an Idiot!
Re: Preacher Claims He's Jesus: Even Greater? by jerrymania(m): 1:07am On Jan 23, 2007
and fellas theres another proclamation of stupidity in southern china (i think so) about a woman (i'm not sure too) who they call almighty god. she has the power to forgive sins and save the world! grin grin Idiots!
Re: Preacher Claims He's Jesus: Even Greater? by trinigirl1(f): 2:55am On Jan 23, 2007
I read this book "Heaven Is So Real" by Choo Nam Thomas.  I think she's a Chinese convert.  As soon as I started reading the book alarms went off in my spirit. 

In her book she claims that Jesus himself came to her and took her to visit heaven over 17 times.  Nothing wrong with that.

But this is what disturbed me, as well as many others who read the book.

1.  Jesus never identified Himself as Messiah, Saviour or Jesus Christ, only "her Lord"
2.  Each visit by this spirit to her manifested in the violent shaking of her body for over 20 minutes at a time
3.  She claims that during her preparation for ministry, Jesus was "preparing" her by shaking her body violently
     for more than 2 hours at a time.  During which certain parts of her body would "lock" then "unlock"
4.  During the preparation she claims that while Jesus was in her room, she also saw demons surrounding him,
     and whe SHE rebuked them they departed.
5.  She preaches that no one is sure of their salvation
6.  She preaches salvation through works.
7.  She claims that Jesus said that he doesn't like people who do not tithe.
8.  She says that Jesus says that he will take the lives of the unsaved so that His name will be glorified.
9.  She repeatedly quotes Jesus as favouring her above all others, and choosing her for end time work
10.  She claims that there is a " barren land" between heaven and hell for "disobedient" christians.

There are so many more anomalies. Too many to mention. But she also claims that Jesus took her to a room, like a warehouse
where there were millions of aborted babies lined up to be collected by their mothers if they make it to heaven. Also, she claims that she and Jesus barbcued fish in heaven, and she and Jesus ate fish together. She says she saw the angel Gabriel, and he's the most angel. He's white with blond hair and blue eyes.

She also claims Jesus came to her on the day before christmas in a beautiful gown and crown and when she asked him why he said he was celebrating his birthday.

She claims that Jesus taught her a spritual dance. In this dance you have to move your hands in a certain way 7 times, etc etc. She started doing this dance by the "spirit" during a church service and the pastor rebuked her.

She says that Jesus was displeased with the pastor and that he will no longer bless that church. She claims that Jesus then instructed her to go TELL the pastor that she WILL be performing the dance on the platform at a particular time.

I found this book distrubing on many levels.

In her online video she says that she has to keep rocking from side because of the "spirit" inside her.  If she sits still her stomach clenches? 

I wish that more people here could read this book and tell me what they think if it's available in Nigeria.  People are debating it all over the net.  I've read where some people say it has caused family members to doubt their very salvation, and others to become depressed.

The thing is it's sugar coated with the gospel of salvation, so people are buying into it. But their are so many underlying deceptions and it's very very subtle.

This is a link to the video on her website where she rocks from side to side.

http://www.choothomas.com/resources.html
Re: Preacher Claims He's Jesus: Even Greater? by mazaje(m): 8:27am On Jan 23, 2007
another 419er people are just too gullible
Re: Preacher Claims He's Jesus: Even Greater? by Nobody: 2:29am On Jan 25, 2007
No christians should even read such demon laden books.
Read the Bible instead.
Re: Preacher Claims He's Jesus: Even Greater? by shahan(f): 2:44am On Jan 25, 2007
trini_girl:

I read this book "Heaven Is So Real" by Choo Nam Thomas.  I think she's a Chinese convert.  As soon as I started reading the book alarms went off in my spirit.

Lol, this babe never ceases to amaze me with her polished grammar! cheesy

trini_girl:

I wish that more people here could read this book and tell me what they think if it's available in Nigeria.  People are debating it all over the net.  I've read where some people say it has caused family members to doubt their very salvation, and others to become depressed.

This is the alarm that went off in my spirit as well:

II Cor. 11:4 & 13-14
"For if someone comes and proclaims another Jesus than the one we proclaimed, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or if you accept a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it readily enough. . .For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light!"

Good thing your spiritual antenna is still very functional.  kiss
Re: Preacher Claims He's Jesus: Even Greater? by stimulus(m): 7:15pm On Mar 31, 2007
jerrymania:

and fellas theres another proclamation of stupidity in southern china (i think so) about a woman (i'm not sure too) who they call almighty god. she has the power to forgive sins and save the world! grin grin Idiots!

She's called 'almighty God' of the Eastern Lightning cult:

The Development and Beliefs of the Eastern Lightning Cult

Cases Involving Eastern Lightning Cult
Re: Preacher Claims He's Jesus: Even Greater? by Phemour: 9:20pm On Aug 28, 2008
ara re ni koya (he no well)

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