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At What Point Can We Say That One Is Educated? by Nobody: 11:10am On Sep 25, 2015 |
Ok, i have a cousin who is 27, the father is a big time millionaire, now, this my cousin has 4 other siblings who are all graduates, but he is an SSCE holder. Given that he was not too 'bright' academically, the father had him join the family business when he was 20, this guy speaks and writes English almost as good as the best, speaks fluent French, and has traveled to at least 10 countries outside Africa, and doing extremely well for himself, at 27. I remember about 5 years ago when i was discussing this my cousin with a friend, and my friend told me that the best thing my cousin will do is to get an education first. And this got me thinking, at what level can we say that one is educated? what exactly is education? does it mean that without 'conventional education' that one will most likely be doomed? is it right to say that all university graduates are educated? is it also right to say that anybody without tertiary institution qualification is not educated? 30 Likes 5 Shares |
Re: At What Point Can We Say That One Is Educated? by Nobody: 11:46am On Sep 25, 2015 |
brb wen it makes fp **modified*** hmmm u av 2b able 2 differentate SCHOOLING ND EDUCATION... wat most Nigerians call education is 4yrs in d university which is wrong.... a lot of d graduates we av are schooled BT not educated... BT den u see u nid a level of schooling (not university) to get literate... we av a lot of white folks who Neva went 2 d uni and dey are d ones constructing our roads which Nigerian graduates can't do... besides some Nigerian students are just schooled illiterates.... so u see education goes beyond schooling.... education is d quest 4 INFORMATION IN UR PARTICULAR FIELD... IT BEING UNSATISFIED ABOUT UR PRESENT LEVEL OF KNOWLEDGE.... so if u can't afford 2 to d university all hope is not loss... be a lover of d library... so at what point? ITS AT D POINT U CAN PROCESS D INFORMATION IN U TO SOLUTIONS OF HUMAN CHALLENGES 58 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: At What Point Can We Say That One Is Educated? by wunderkiind(m): 1:20pm On Sep 25, 2015 |
Not every graduate is actually educated in the real sense... And a high school cert holder might be qualified enough to be referred to as a very educated fellow, it all depends on the way you look at it... Nowadays that it is very possible to get degrees without even being in a classroom, I.e online, the world is Changing but people don't wanna change with it. The truth is, you may decide to go to a tertiary institution for 4 or more years after which you get a certificate, and someone else on the other hand, studies the same thing as you, all the books, theory, practicals, etc and even more for the same number of years as you, outside the four walls of a classroom, only doesn't get a certificate, would you then say you are more educated than such a fellow? Obviously not. It wouldn'f be right at all to say such. Not everyone without a 'degree' is uneducated, and vice versa! So, to answer the question at hand, you have to first of all understand that education in itself is an unending process, i.e a continium, so anyone without the ability to learn, unlearn, and relearn can not be truly educated. Therefore, when one has acquired the fundamental learning skills, a good appetite for true knowledge, information and, understanding, the ability to inspire and impart information to help others effectively, and to use one's education to improve oneself and others, then at this point it can then be rightly said that one is educated. 57 Likes 12 Shares |
Re: At What Point Can We Say That One Is Educated? by Nobody: 1:57pm On Sep 25, 2015 |
wunderkiind:on the spot! apart from the points you have made, i for one thinks that 'conventional' education is overrated in Nigeria, and in the quest for this 'education' people give too much emphasis to paper qualification. I have met people that are SSCE holders, but on my word, you can only know when they tell you, these set of people are as polished, sophisticated as they come. Whereas you can meet 'educated' ones who can barely make or write a complete sentence and timid. Today we have universities in every nook and cranny of the society breeding a pitiable set of 'graduates'. Afterall a graduate is a graduate I am of the opinion that first and foremost one should give acquisition of wisdom utmost attention while also acquiring necessary people skills. 11 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: At What Point Can We Say That One Is Educated? by Nobody: 1:59pm On Sep 25, 2015 |
horlaleykan:God is watching you, even if Seun is not 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: At What Point Can We Say That One Is Educated? by orisa37: 2:05pm On Sep 25, 2015 |
When you obtain GCE "O" LEVEL OR "A" LEVEL, you are educated . A university degree makes you an educated Academician and Theorist. HND or advancedTechnical Training Cert. makes you a Skilled expert and Technician. A university degree plus training in certain specialised fields, such as medicine, law, engineering, military, accountancy etc, makes you a Professional. 21 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: At What Point Can We Say That One Is Educated? by Nobody: 2:35pm On Sep 25, 2015 |
orisa37:Partly true, you can have your HND or your Tech Cert, but that doesnt mean you have the skills. There are Mechanical Engineering graduates who cannot compete with some 'uneducated mechanics' when it comes to the nitty gritties of the workings of vehicles, the engineering graduates can quote all the theories and theorems in the world, but the mechanic has the requisite skills. The difference is that one is a paper engineer while one is a skilled technician. Same way one can say i am a political scientist but do not know the number of local govts in his state, or the arithmetic involved in Nigerian election process, or the geopolitical zones in the country. But ask an 'ordinary' grassroot politican these questions and he will surprise you with how much he knows. So, at the end, certificates do not weigh much, even recruiters have come to realize this, what matters is what you bring to the table 9 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: At What Point Can We Say That One Is Educated? by Nobody: 2:40pm On Sep 25, 2015 |
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Re: At What Point Can We Say That One Is Educated? by Youngsage: 4:10pm On Sep 25, 2015 |
7Alexander: doesn't look like an educated spacebooker or is he? lmao |
Re: At What Point Can We Say That One Is Educated? by Kockane(m): 4:22pm On Sep 25, 2015 |
That man they call Daura Dul.lard... Even as he no really pass waec, we still vote am and today he is President. Education is overrated jare. Modified as the topic hits front page: Please any Nairalander in Abuja sharing Sallah meat? Barka da Sallah, christian or Muslim, we are all one. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: At What Point Can We Say That One Is Educated? by sdindan: 4:24pm On Sep 25, 2015 |
When ever the person joined APC And can win election with propaganda Example Buhari 6 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: At What Point Can We Say That One Is Educated? by EmagNig(m): 4:25pm On Sep 25, 2015 |
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Re: At What Point Can We Say That One Is Educated? by aare07(m): 4:25pm On Sep 25, 2015 |
Doing the right thing at the right time. Or Not working hard, but working intelligently. #irepOYO |
Re: At What Point Can We Say That One Is Educated? by LordMecuzy(m): 4:27pm On Sep 25, 2015 |
horlaleykan:e dey front page now |
Re: At What Point Can We Say That One Is Educated? by LordMecuzy(m): 4:27pm On Sep 25, 2015 |
in 1970's to early 80's when you had SSCE your parents will kill a goat in celebration that their son is educated and has 5 credits in SSCE... From early 80's to early 90's your parents will kill a cow that you are now educated as a graduate from a tertiary institution.. Bsc/Hnd/BA etc.. From 90's to 2000 your parents will kill a cow that you are now educated with a Masters degree .. Msc/Ma etc From 2000 till date without PhD you are still regarded as Uneducated... Nigeria Wahala... 8 Likes |
Re: At What Point Can We Say That One Is Educated? by Lovexme(m): 4:28pm On Sep 25, 2015 |
Hopefully, someone educates us. |
Re: At What Point Can We Say That One Is Educated? by basille(m): 4:29pm On Sep 25, 2015 |
Education is the process of facilitating learning. Knowledge, skills, values, beliefs, and habits of a group of people are transferred to other people, through storytelling, discussion, teaching, training, or research. However we have so many educated illiterates. Any fool can know. The point is to understand. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: At What Point Can We Say That One Is Educated? by SirLegal(m): 4:29pm On Sep 25, 2015 |
This your cousin is just a "Prototype" (pardon me to use that word) of my Dad. Also stopped at SSCE(as far back as the 70's) but still has a great command of English and also has high level of reasoning, thinking and can assimilate quickly. According to Alvin Taffler, " The illiterate of the 21st century is not those who cannot read and write, but those who cannot Learn, unlearn and Relearn." If he can do the last 3, then HE IS EDUCATED. 12 Likes |
Re: At What Point Can We Say That One Is Educated? by NaLaugh: 4:30pm On Sep 25, 2015 |
Re: At What Point Can We Say That One Is Educated? by NaLaugh: 4:30pm On Sep 25, 2015 |
Being "educated" is a complex case. The primary criteria includes being literate (ability to read and write). However, that's just a tier 1 requirement. Being recognized as "educated," would require completion, or demonstrated mastery of a defined set of scholarly elements. The elements must have been peer reviewed, and adopted as a standardized determinant of mastery. This is where formal education comes in. Formal education isn't necessarily more valid than other forms of education. However, it has been standardized, so there isn't a debate about being "educated," once you complete its requirements. Advanced education only adds specialization to your education. You get to focus on a specific major. Then again, the quality of education received is more important than a formal endorsement of it. A good example is the Nigerian education landscape, where many B.A and B.sc holders are unable to express themselves beyond primary school level. Such people are still broadly categorized as "educated," but are they really? A motivated high school grad might be more "educated" than a Bachelor's Degree holder. Unfortunately, we live in a world where paper certificates trump practical application. It is definitely recommended to get formal advanced education in whatever field you're passionate about. 5 Likes |
Re: At What Point Can We Say That One Is Educated? by Nobody: 4:31pm On Sep 25, 2015 |
After secondary school education you are educated. |
Re: At What Point Can We Say That One Is Educated? by Nobody: 4:31pm On Sep 25, 2015 |
When you are smart enough to decipher that eating books does not make a rat or a cockroach educated 1 Like |
Re: At What Point Can We Say That One Is Educated? by RealAdewole(m): 4:31pm On Sep 25, 2015 |
when u are dead |
Re: At What Point Can We Say That One Is Educated? by BTT(m): 4:32pm On Sep 25, 2015 |
I think it is that ironic point when you realize you know nothing and you keep seeking to know at least a little about everything. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: At What Point Can We Say That One Is Educated? by mightyrocket(m): 4:34pm On Sep 25, 2015 |
Education is more than reading and writing(formal education ) It covers all other spheres of life. Once u can imbibe ur culture, moral values and norms, and u can apply to real life what you've gained and garnered over the years of your said educational training... i think bu then u are gud to go. 1 Like |
Re: At What Point Can We Say That One Is Educated? by Nobody: 4:34pm On Sep 25, 2015 |
In my life dictionary, one is assumed educated if s/he is able to convert his knowledge to fortune. Any self acclaimed educated person who is unable to convert his supposed education to fortune is just a better version of a slowpoke credit to his above average mastery of a language. Knowledge is the key power to change any environment for better nay create wealth. Education can be gained through either formal or informal ways. The former when properly gained will help one to have a better prospect of securing an employment from established corporations - Majority of them hardly have the guts to start and nurture a corporation because they usually have phobia for risk with uncreative mindset, instead they are good in imitating what was already done (more like: la cram la pour). As for the half-educated in this same formal type, at best they glosses their ignorance with mastery of a country lingua fraca and they are usually unemployable. Of these two in the the formal type of education, what they have in common is that they are mostly unproductive apology to the productive ones and they have inflated ego that in the long run causes one more harm than good not forgetting to say that they have sense of entitlement. Now, talking about the latter (informally educated), here you have people who gained/gain educated through hands-on experience, self-education and continuous education, they never stop learning and they are always productive and creative. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: At What Point Can We Say That One Is Educated? by BTT(m): 4:34pm On Sep 25, 2015 |
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Re: At What Point Can We Say That One Is Educated? by Nobody: 4:36pm On Sep 25, 2015 |
He has the platform. Chikena!!! Ordinarily the highest he could go without family business is factory work and other menial stuff. I will advice he enroll for his Bsc Part time. Even O.B.O aka Davido had a Bsc and he will be going for National service in November, with all his $$$ 1 Like |
Re: At What Point Can We Say That One Is Educated? by Nobody: 4:37pm On Sep 25, 2015 |
You dnt need to go to school to be an educated fellow. When you can read, write and you have some skills and experience, then you are educated. Steve jobs did nt attend school at all buh I can tell you that he is an educated man cos he's got much more than what most of we graduates have(skills and experience I mean) and obviously he knws how to read and write. 3 Likes 1 Share |
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