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Is Bible The Word Of God? The Bible And Paedophilia. by mubarakopeyemi(m): 2:38pm On Sep 29, 2015
Actually, Pedophilia was born from this book of perversion. Let us see some passages that clearly support Pedophilia and Rape of preteen girls

Numbers 31: 17-18

17. Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.
18. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.


The Jewish soldiers were commanded by “God” in the bible to keep the woman children (little girls) for themselves! In addition, they were commanded to kill every woman that hath know a man by lying with him. How these soldiers in those days know if the girls are virgin or not? Simply they verify it by raping them and if the Jews discovered that they are non-virgins then they kill them as they were commanded by “God”.

But the most outrageous is that the Bible imply that God is a Pedophile himself! (Astagfirullah)

Numbers 31: 25-40 (NLT)

[b]25. And the Lord said to Moses,
26. “You and Eleazar the priest and the family leaders of each tribe are to make a list of all the plunder taken in the battle, including the people and animals.
27. Then divide the plunder into two parts, and give half to the men who fought the battle and half to the rest of the people.
28. From the army’s portion, first give the Lord his share of the plunder—one of every 500 of the prisoners and of the cattle, donkeys, sheep, and goats.
29. Give this share of the army’s half to Eleazar the priest as an offering to the Lord.
30. From the half that belongs to the people of Israel, take one of every fifty of the prisoners and of the cattle, donkeys, sheep, goats, and other animals. Give this share to the Levites, who are in charge of maintaining the Lord’s Tabernacle.”
31. So Moses and Eleazar the priest did as the Lord commanded Moses.
32The plunder remaining from everything the fighting men had taken totaled 675,000 sheep and goats,
33. 72,000 cattle,
34. 61,000 donkeys,
35. and 32,000 virgin girls.
36Half of the plunder was given to the fighting men. It totaled 337,500 sheep and goats,
37. of which 675 were the Lord’s share;
38. 36,000 cattle, of which 72 were the Lord’s share;
39. 30,500 donkeys, of which 61 were the Lord’s share;
40.[size=13pt] and 16,000 virgin girls, of whom 32 were the Lord’s share[/b]. [/size]

In the verse 35 we are told that Jews caught as booty 32.000 preteen girls for themselves.

All these violence??

The verse 40 is to dedicate the little girls (of women that had not known man by lying with him-32 of them)
to“God”! As God, himself commanded above that wants these preteen girls. Indeed clear perversion, God in the bible want for himself 32 little girls, why? Maybe to do what his soldiers(Jews)to the innocent little girls. Therefore Bible by saing that “LORD'S share of the 16,000 Virgins was thirty two (preteen girls) actually demonstrate the Pedophilic nature of the biblical “God” .

Its a shame

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Re: Is Bible The Word Of God? The Bible And Paedophilia. by benedictnsi(m): 2:39pm On Sep 29, 2015
@Op, you must be an atheist
Re: Is Bible The Word Of God? The Bible And Paedophilia. by mubarakopeyemi(m): 2:43pm On Sep 29, 2015
benedictnsi:
@Op, you must be an atheist

WHY ARE U SO QUICK TO ASSUME I'M AN ATHEIST?

That is the problem with you people, too much of assumption and judgments.

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Re: Is Bible The Word Of God? The Bible And Paedophilia. by Nobody: 2:44pm On Sep 29, 2015
The Catholic church is full of Pedophiles
Re: Is Bible The Word Of God? The Bible And Paedophilia. by benedictnsi(m): 2:46pm On Sep 29, 2015
mubarakopeyemi:


WHY ARE U SO QUICK TO ASSUME I'M AN ATHEIST?

That is the problem with you people, too much of assumption and judgments.

It is very crystal clear...... From your write-ups, I got to conclude that cool
Re: Is Bible The Word Of God? The Bible And Paedophilia. by mubarakopeyemi(m): 2:53pm On Sep 29, 2015
benedictnsi:


It is very crystal clear...... From your write-ups, I got to conclude that cool

SMH undecided
Re: Is Bible The Word Of God? The Bible And Paedophilia. by mubarakopeyemi(m): 2:55pm On Sep 29, 2015
ifeness:
The Catholic church is full of Pedophiles

U mean those priests having a good time with the Virgins grin

Well they got it from their Book.
Re: Is Bible The Word Of God? The Bible And Paedophilia. by menesheh(m): 3:03pm On Sep 29, 2015
benedictnsi:
@Op, you must be an atheist



So what
Re: Is Bible The Word Of God? The Bible And Paedophilia. by Nobody: 3:05pm On Sep 29, 2015
mubarakopeyemi:


U mean those priests having a good time with the Virgins grin

Well they got it from their Book.

Na the priests molest young boys not even girls. Vatican has a huge data base of gay priest. It is the nature of white people to be homosexuals. That is why Paul,Jesus,Michael Angelo,Popes had no wives because they sleep with boys.

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Re: Is Bible The Word Of God? The Bible And Paedophilia. by mubarakopeyemi(m): 3:10pm On Sep 29, 2015
ifeness:


Na the priests molest young boys not even girls. Vatican has a huge data base of gay priest. It is the nature of white people to be homosexuals. That is why Paul,Jesus,Michael Angelo,Popes had no wives because they sleep with boys.


I see....
Re: Is Bible The Word Of God? The Bible And Paedophilia. by aaronson(m): 3:14pm On Sep 29, 2015
Op I'm the atheist you too scared to be like,but you comfortable in your confusion enough to question your bible,now that's a big O fail to your bible.

The moment you realize you bible isn't a word of god then you begin to realize there wasn't a god in the first place.

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Re: Is Bible The Word Of God? The Bible And Paedophilia. by mubarakopeyemi(m): 3:17pm On Sep 29, 2015
aaronson:
Op I'm the atheist you too scared to be like,but you comfortable in your confusion enough to question your bible,now that's a big O fail to your bible.

The moment you realize you bible isn't a word of god then you begin to realize there wasn't a god in the first place.

Sir u are addressing the OP
the OP knows the Bible isn't God's word.
Re: Is Bible The Word Of God? The Bible And Paedophilia. by kestolove95(f): 3:19pm On Sep 29, 2015
Virgin mary...dat is d bible is tellin us dat God raped mary without her knowledge and dat giv birth to jeez...(MGFGU)

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Re: Is Bible The Word Of God? The Bible And Paedophilia. by aaronson(m): 3:22pm On Sep 29, 2015
mubarakopeyemi:


Sir u are addressing the OP
the OP knows the Bible isn't God's word.
Read the topic of this thread again.
Re: Is Bible The Word Of God? The Bible And Paedophilia. by johnydon22(m): 3:38pm On Sep 29, 2015
benedictnsi:


It is very crystal clear...... From your write-ups, I got to conclude that cool
This is how you lot loose arguments even before it started, assuming and concluding baselessly.

The Op is a Muslim. . Now lets hear it..
Re: Is Bible The Word Of God? The Bible And Paedophilia. by benedictnsi(m): 3:51pm On Sep 29, 2015
johnydon22:
This is how you lot loose arguments even before it started, assuming and concluding baselessly.

The Op is a Muslim. . Now lets hear it..


That's why we is an Atheist then.....
Re: Is Bible The Word Of God? The Bible And Paedophilia. by dolphinheart(m): 3:57pm On Sep 29, 2015
mubarakopeyemi:
Actually, Pedophilia was born from this book of perversion. Let us see some passages that clearly support Pedophilia and Rape of preteen girls

Numbers 31: 17-18

17. Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.
18. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.


The Jewish soldiers were commanded by “God” in the bible to keep the woman children (little girls) for themselves! In addition, they were commanded to kill every woman that hath know a man by lying with him. How these soldiers in those days know if the girls are virgin or not? Simply they verify it by raping them and if the Jews discovered that they are non-virgins then they kill them as they were commanded by “God”.

But the most outrageous is that the Bible imply that God is a Pedophile himself! (Astagfirullah)

Numbers 31: 25-40 (NLT)

[b]25. And the Lord said to Moses,
26. “You and Eleazar the priest and the family leaders of each tribe are to make a list of all the plunder taken in the battle, including the people and animals.
27. Then divide the plunder into two parts, and give half to the men who fought the battle and half to the rest of the people.
28. From the army’s portion, first give the Lord his share of the plunder—one of every 500 of the prisoners and of the cattle, donkeys, sheep, and goats.
29. Give this share of the army’s half to Eleazar the priest as an offering to the Lord.
30. From the half that belongs to the people of Israel, take one of every fifty of the prisoners and of the cattle, donkeys, sheep, goats, and other animals. Give this share to the Levites, who are in charge of maintaining the Lord’s Tabernacle.”
31. So Moses and Eleazar the priest did as the Lord commanded Moses.
32The plunder remaining from everything the fighting men had taken totaled 675,000 sheep and goats,
33. 72,000 cattle,
34. 61,000 donkeys,
35. and 32,000 virgin girls.
36Half of the plunder was given to the fighting men. It totaled 337,500 sheep and goats,
37. of which 675 were the Lord’s share;
38. 36,000 cattle, of which 72 were the Lord’s share;
39. 30,500 donkeys, of which 61 were the Lord’s share;
40.[size=13pt] and 16,000 virgin girls, of whom 32 were the Lord’s share[/b]. [/size]

In the verse 35 we are told that Jews caught as booty 32.000 preteen girls for themselves.

All these violence??

The verse 40 is to dedicate the little girls (of women that had not known man by lying with him-32 of them)
to“God”! As God, himself commanded above that wants these preteen girls. Indeed clear perversion, God in the bible want for himself 32 little girls, why? Maybe to do what his soldiers(Jews)to the innocent little girls. Therefore Bible by saing that “LORD'S share of the 16,000 Virgins was thirty two (preteen girls) actually demonstrate the Pedophilic nature of the biblical “God” .

Its a shame

As much as ill like to reply you on the issue above, one needs to first clarify some few things.

1. Do you believe a God, a supreme being exist?.
2. If yes ,what is that Gods name ?.
3. it you believe in a God, is it that same God that gave the command as stated in ur post above? Or another God gave that command .?

one needs to know ur position about the God who gave the command you posted. If you believe the God exist or if the whole command was man made fabrication
Re: Is Bible The Word Of God? The Bible And Paedophilia. by johnydon22(m): 3:58pm On Sep 29, 2015
benedictnsi:


That's why we is an Atheist then.....

What Speak English please, don't understand..!!!
Re: Is Bible The Word Of God? The Bible And Paedophilia. by benedictnsi(m): 4:06pm On Sep 29, 2015
johnydon22:


What Speak English please, don't understand..!!!


Pls go to school
Re: Is Bible The Word Of God? The Bible And Paedophilia. by mubarakopeyemi(m): 4:23pm On Sep 29, 2015
dolphinheart:


As much as ill like to reply you on the issue above, one needs to first clarify some few things.

1. Do you believe a God, a supreme being exist?.
2. If yes ,what is that Gods name ?.
3. it you believe in a God, is it that same God that gave the command as stated in ur post above? Or another God gave that command .?

one needs to know ur position about the God who gave the command you posted. If you believe the God exist or if the whole command was man made fabrication

1- Yes
2- God is God
3- That's not for me to answer. The Christians should then after I will raise my points.

Mine is just that is Bible the word of God?
Re: Is Bible The Word Of God? The Bible And Paedophilia. by johnydon22(m): 4:25pm On Sep 29, 2015
benedictnsi:


Pls go to school
Oops. . Ok sir, My bad :X cheesy
Re: Is Bible The Word Of God? The Bible And Paedophilia. by mubarakopeyemi(m): 4:27pm On Sep 29, 2015
johnydon22:
Oops. . Ok sir, My bad :X cheesy

grin grin pls go to school o. Start from learning pronouns such as; we, I, me, Us, Them, He, She etc grin
Re: Is Bible The Word Of God? The Bible And Paedophilia. by johnydon22(m): 4:36pm On Sep 29, 2015
mubarakopeyemi:


grin grin pls go to school o. Start from learning pronouns such as; we, I, me, Us, Them, He, She etc grin
Hahahahaha thought am the one that saw that...
Re: Is Bible The Word Of God? The Bible And Paedophilia. by Scholar8200(m): 5:10pm On Sep 29, 2015
mubarakopeyemi:

Let us see some passages that clearly support Pedophilia and Rape of preteen girls

Can you establish from the scriptures that:
1. The girls were to be forced(a word used for rape in the Bible eg 2 Samuel 13:12,14.
2. The girls in question were to be sex objects.

Rather, such girls were to be spared but retained as slaves:

But all the women children,.... The females among the little ones:that have not known a man by lying with him; which might be pretty clear, and easily concluded, from their age:

keep for yourselves; either to be handmaids to them, or to be married among them when grown up
(Gills Exposition...)

What I find in Deuteronomy 21:11 shows that they were only allowed, under the law, to marry war captives that were women, not pre-teens:
if you notice among the captives a beautiful woman and are attracted to her, you may take her as your wife
Deut 21:11

If you will refute, kindly use the law too and other commentaries!


Numbers 31: 17-18

17. Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.
18. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

The Jewish soldiers were commanded by “God” in the bible to keep the woman children (little girls) for themselves!
Hastily assuming this was for sex purposes (suggested by that exclamation mark and corroborated by other parts of the op) is indicative of a thinking pattern that needs renewal!


In addition, they were commanded to kill every woman that hath know a man by lying with him. How these soldiers in those days know if the girls are virgin or not? [b]Simply they verify it by raping them [/b]and if the Jews discovered that they are non-virgins then they kill them as they were commanded by “God”.
Establish the highlighted by ONE example in scripture!!!


But the most outrageous is that the Bible imply that God is a Pedophile himself! (Astagfirullah)
What a pity! Your thought pattern/mind needs renewal. Show me ONE godly man in the Bible, whose age can be established therefrom and that of his wife, that had a pre-teen as a wife!


Numbers 31: 25-40 (NLT)

[b]25. And the Lord said to Moses,
26. “You and Eleazar the priest and the family leaders of each tribe are to make a list of all the plunder taken in the battle, including the people and animals.
27. Then divide the plunder into two parts, and give half to the men who fought the battle and half to the rest of the people.
28. From the army’s portion, first give the Lord his share of the plunder—one of every 500 of the prisoners and of the cattle, donkeys, sheep, and goats.
29. Give this share of the army’s half to Eleazar the priest as an offering to the Lord.
30. From the half that belongs to the people of Israel, [size=13pt]take one of every fifty of the prisoners[/size] and of the cattle, donkeys, sheep, goats, and other animals. [size=13pt][b]Give this share to the Levites,[/b[/size]] who are in charge of maintaining the Lord’s Tabernacle.”
[/b]31. So Moses and Eleazar the priest did as the Lord commanded Moses.
32The plunder remaining from everything the fighting men had taken totaled 675,000 sheep and goats,
33. 72,000 cattle,
34. 61,000 donkeys,
35. and 32,000 virgin girls.
36Half of the plunder was given to the fighting men. It totaled 337,500 sheep and goats,
37. of which 675 were the Lord’s share;
38. 36,000 cattle, of which 72 were the Lord’s share;
39. 30,500 donkeys, of which 61 were the Lord’s share;
40.[size=13pt] and 16,000 virgin girls, of whom 32 were the Lord’s share
. [/size]

In the verse 35 we are told that Jews caught as booty 32.000 preteen girls for themselves.

All these violence??

The verse 40 is to dedicate the little girls (of women that had not known man by lying with him-32 of them)
to“God”! As God, himself commanded above that wants these preteen girls. Indeed clear perversion, God in the bible want for himself 32 little girls, why? Maybe to do what his soldiers(Jews)to the innocent little girls. Therefore Bible by saing that “LORD'S share of the 16,000 Virgins was thirty two (preteen girls) actually demonstrate the Pedophilic nature of the biblical “God” .

Its a shame
1. Did you read verse thirty very well to ascertain who those 32 girls were to serve? (the Levites, not as wives because the Levites were never allowed to marry any other tribe in Israel!)
2. Innocent little girls with the option of either being killed because their nation had been conquered or spared but retained as slaves (and that not with cruel terms).
3. You appear to have overlooked the fact that the OT allows an eye for an eye and the Midianites had launched the first offensive and their time was ripe for judgement! When Israel too was guilty, they were likewise conquered and taken as slaves!!! (Daniel and the rest were slaves/eunuchs after Nebuchadnezzar conquered Israel)

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Re: Is Bible The Word Of God? The Bible And Paedophilia. by Rilwon: 5:27pm On Sep 29, 2015
benedictnsi:


That's why we is an Atheist then.....
grin grin
Re: Is Bible The Word Of God? The Bible And Paedophilia. by Nobody: 5:46pm On Sep 29, 2015
benedictnsi:


It is very crystal clear...... From your write-ups, I got to conclude that cool



he doesn't believe in ur God...

does that make him atheist
Re: Is Bible The Word Of God? The Bible And Paedophilia. by hahn(m): 6:01pm On Sep 29, 2015
benedictnsi:



That's why we is an Atheist then.....

When is your dictionary coming out? undecided

Op, you are all practicing nonsense
Re: Is Bible The Word Of God? The Bible And Paedophilia. by dolphinheart(m): 6:05pm On Sep 29, 2015
mubarakopeyemi:


1- Yes
2- God is God
3- That's not for me to answer. The Christians should then after I will raise my points.

Mine is just that is Bible the word of God?

You believe in God.
Your God does not have a name.

1. Well let me answer for some people, the God that gave those command is allah.
And you will agree with them unless you believe that their are other Gods or that the command Is false and man made and not from the "God that is God"

2. to answer for myself, the God in the bible is not allah. And the command are not man made fabrications.

So to you, which one of these is correct. When we get these out of the way, we can then look into those scriptures.
Re: Is Bible The Word Of God? The Bible And Paedophilia. by mubarakopeyemi(m): 6:50pm On Sep 29, 2015
Scholar8200:


Can you establish from the scriptures that:
1. The girls were to be forced(a word used for rape in the Bible eg 2 Samuel 13:12,14.
2. The girls in question were to be sex objects.

Rather, such girls were to be spared but retained as slaves:
But all the women children,.... The females among the little ones:that have not known a man by lying with him; which might be pretty clear, and easily concluded, from their age:

Slaves acting as what? Acting as sex slaves you ought to have said. even if they were not sex slaves why should they be kept as slaves when indeed they were innocent. Why would the ever loving God of the Bible as powerful and big as he is do this to young innocent girls.

And you are quite funny by telling me they would know they were virgins or not through their age. are you kidding me? Their age? I'm sure u must have heard about the 10-12 years old girls giving birth. Going with your judgment we can just conclude, after hearing that they were 10, 11, 12 years old, that they were virgins. Their pregnancy might be holy.

What a pity! Your thought pattern/mind needs renewal. Show me ONE godly man in the Bible, whose age can be established therefrom and that of his wife, that had a pre-teen as a wife!

What are you saying? The bible God was giving commands and 32 girls were to be kept for Him. The bible said this not me.
Study this well again.

40. and 16,000 virgin girls, of whom 32 were the Lord’s share.

Who is the LORD here?

1. Did you read verse thirty very well to ascertain who those 32 girls were to serve? (the Levites, not as wives because the Levites were never allowed to marry any other tribe in Israel!)

Verse 30 says;
From the half that belongs to the people of Israel, take one of every fifty of the prisoners and of the cattle, donkeys, sheep, goats, and other animals. [b]Give this share to the Levites, who are in charge of maintaining the Lord’s Tabernacle.” [/b]

In this case these girls here are not 32. in this case it says, One of every fifty girls which their total number 32000. So are you now telling me that 1/50 x 32000 =32? It is actually 640. So verse 30 is not addressing the 32 girls for the LORD.

2. Innocent little girls with the option of either being killed because their nation had been conquered or spared but retained as slaves (and that not with cruel terms).

Please establish why they must be kept as slaves since the Bible God loves everyone, why would he allow innocent little girls to be taken as slaves? Afterall he is such a kind God.

3. You appear to have overlooked the fact that the OT allows an eye for an eye and the Midianites had launched the first offensive and their time was ripe for judgement! When Israel too was guilty, they were likewise conquered and taken as slaves!!! (Daniel and the rest were slaves/eunuchs after Nebuchadnezzar conquered Israel)

In summary say Yahweh is in approval of slavery.

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Re: Is Bible The Word Of God? The Bible And Paedophilia. by mubarakopeyemi(m): 7:01pm On Sep 29, 2015
dolphinheart:


You believe in God.
Your God does not have a name.

1. Well let me answer for some people, the God that gave those command is allah.
And you will agree with them unless you believe that their are other Gods or that the command Is false and man made and not from the "God that is God"
Come again pls grin I hope you realized you just said Allah.

2. to answer for myself, the God in the bible is not allah. And the command are not man made fabrications.

Please make your points. Thnks. How Family smiley
Re: Is Bible The Word Of God? The Bible And Paedophilia. by Scholar8200(m): 7:18pm On Sep 29, 2015
mubarakopeyemi:


Slaves acting as what? Acting as sex slaves you ought to have said. even if they were not sex slaves why should they be kept as slaves when indeed they were innocent. Why would the ever loving God of the Bible as powerful and big as he is do this to young innocent women.
mubarak sure is in a hurry to refute what he apparently does not (or would not take time to) understand!
Show me ONE proof of a slave used as a sex object by the Israelites in the Bible.
Lest I forget, GOD is kind and Loving but is a God of Justice! Gentile nations spurn warnings and gets judged by others who takes some alive as slaves; Israel does the same things and gets conquered and some of hers are retained as slaves!


And you are quite funny by telling me they would know they were virgins or not through their age. are you kidding me? Their age? I'm sure u must have heard about the 10-12 years old girls giving birth. Going with your judgment we can just conclude, after hearing that they were 10, 11, 12 years old, that they were virgins. Their pregnancy might be holy.
I asked some questions initially which you overlooked; now prove the highlighted from the Scriptures (dont be anachronistic in trying to say it happens today; question is did it happen then among them? If yes, then give me ONE example from the Bible)!



What are you saying? The bible God was giving commands and 32 girls were to be kept for Him. The bible said this not me.
Study this well again.
The highlighted applies more to you!!!
Moses gave the tribute to Eleazar the priest as the LORD's part, as the LORD commanded Moses.
Numbers 31:41
The Priests were set apart and had a sacred responsibility but they also had families too!

Before you scream 'sex slaves' again understand that Eleazar was the high priest at this time.Assignment - Study the commandments meant for the high priests and understand that to use any of those girls as a sex slave was to risk courting swift judgement! Eli (an high priest) had sons who committed fornication and the result on him and those sons were terrible read in 1 Samuel 2,3,4.


40. and 16,000 virgin girls, of whom 32 were the Lord’s share.

Who is the LORD here?
Moses gave the tribute to Eleazar the priest as the LORD's part, as the LORD commanded Moses.
Numbers 31:41


Verse 30 says;
From the half that belongs to the people of Israel, take one of every fifty of the prisoners and of the cattle, donkeys, sheep, goats, and other animals. [b]Give this share to the Levites, who are in charge of maintaining the Lord’s Tabernacle.” [/b]

In this case these girls here are not 32. in this case it says, One of every fifty girls which their total number 32000. So are you now telling me that 1/50 x 32000 =32? It is actually 640. So verse 30 is not addressing the 32 girls for the LORD.
Rather it is 1/500 x (32000/2)=32 meaning 32 was to go to Eleazar!
As regards 1/500 see Numbers 31:28; as regards (32000/2) see Numbers 31:27,40


Please establish why they must be kept as slaves since the Bible God loves everyone, why would he allow innocent little girls to be taken as slaves? Afterall he is such a kind God.
GOD loves everyone but He also is a God of Judgement! Israel suffered similar fate too when their actions demanded it!

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Re: Is Bible The Word Of God? The Bible And Paedophilia. by Rilwon: 7:19pm On Sep 29, 2015
dolphinheart:

1. Well let me answer for some people, the God that gave those command is allah. .

So you now believe Allah is God of the bible or what?

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