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Military Strength: The Top 5 Nations That Could Defeat The World(WWIII). by Explorers(m): 6:24pm On Sep 30, 2015
At about 8:15 a.m. Monday, August 6, 1945, the American atomic bomb “Little Boy” dropped on Hiroshima effectively killing 80,000 people and destroying 69% of the city’s buildings in an instant. Three days later, a second bomb "Fatman" on Nagasaki killed 40,000 just as quickly, and tens of thousands more died from injury and radiation by the end of the year. So ended the Second World War in Asia, when Japan surrendered to the allies just months after Hitler’s suicide in a German bunker. Today, a single thermonuclear weapon weighing just over 1,000 kg has the explosive equivalent of about 1.2 million tons of TNT. If global war were to erupt today, it would be the first time in history where virtually all major combatants had this sort of destructive capability. With estimates of some 22,000 total nukes in modern military arsenals, it’s not hard to believe countries really do have the means for multiple mass-extinctions, as some have sensationally warned. But is that what a Third World War would look like? Certainly, the days of a war centred around battles fought in trenches are long behind us. Would warheads now simply pepper the planet and wipe nations out in one fell swoop? Would it be over within days? Weeks?
A handful of months or years maybe from nuclear ecocide? It’s a frightening thought, but thankfully military conflict is more complicated than that; America’s choice to unleash just two instances of that destruction on Japan remains by far the most morally, politically and historically problematic military decision ever made. Perhaps the fact that industrialized countries continue bloating their military budgets for all sorts of less-frightening armaments, like F-35 fighter jets with 24 million lines of software code and bunker-busting cruise missiles, means it’s unlikely a global war would take off running with a decisive nuclear parade. But then again, the most recent evidence of major military powers facing off comes with a nuclear explosion. Are the nukes just in-waiting for that next “World War”? This is barely scratching the surface of the uncertainty of the question. Who would win WWIII? Some of us might be tempted to place victory in the nuke-count, plain and simple. But in an attempt to try and make our own predictions about this hypothetical global conflict a little more realistic and diplomatic, we combined several points of data on the biggest military powers today with trends in their economic growth and defense spending. We looked at;

* Military personnel count(total active, reserve and paramilitary troops).


* Naval size(by displaced tonnage of water, i.e. total real weight of military sea vessels).


* Air force size(number of combat planes and attack helicopters).


* Trends in military spending(both the amount in U.S. dollars, and percentage of GDP).


* Estimated nuke count.


Now before we square off on the biggest military-geek debate on the internet, we’d like to reiterate: While based on factual information, the situations described here are entirely hypothetical and the conclusions drawn have been reduced to analyses of the set of criteria stipulated above combined with the findings of research on predicted future trends.The abundance of nuclear weapons, among other things, makes it virtually impossible to carry out a tactful analysis of how modern militaries might fare in a global conflict, and it hardly needs stipulating that war is about context, and that’s very much more than facts and figures. Countries also have a lot more at their disposal than combat aerials and warships, home-base defense ballistics and the whole gamut of auxiliary ground, air and sea vehicles that play crucial roles in military deployment, not to mention geography, leadership, allying potential and other unquantifiable dynamics, are mostly overlooked here. Most of all, this exercise is about making a future prediction, not a World War 2014, which means there’s a lot more than present military proportions to consider.
So be warned: this sort of hypothesising could benefit from some healthy zombie-apocalypse-type scepticism, lest you lend it a little too much credibility as a portrait of future military supremacy. With this in mind, however, our top 5 list serves as a rundown of military power, as per the specifications listed. Without further ado, here are our top candidates…

Re: Military Strength: The Top 5 Nations That Could Defeat The World(WWIII). by Nature8(m): 6:29pm On Sep 30, 2015
Interesting..

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Re: Military Strength: The Top 5 Nations That Could Defeat The World(WWIII). by wasco24: 6:31pm On Sep 30, 2015
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Re: Military Strength: The Top 5 Nations That Could Defeat The World(WWIII). by Greyworld: 6:34pm On Sep 30, 2015
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Re: Military Strength: The Top 5 Nations That Could Defeat The World(WWIII). by simdam500(m): 6:41pm On Sep 30, 2015
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Re: Military Strength: The Top 5 Nations That Could Defeat The World(WWIII). by Gidoka(m): 6:42pm On Sep 30, 2015
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Re: Military Strength: The Top 5 Nations That Could Defeat The World(WWIII). by Explorers(m): 6:44pm On Sep 30, 2015
5. United Kingdom: $60.8 Billion spent in 2013; 2.5% of GDP.


* Personnel: 387,570.

* Air: 222 combat aircrafts, 153 attack helicopters.

* Sea: Approximately 367,860 tons.

* Nuke estimate: Fewer than 160 deployed, 225 total.

Britain’s military reputation is notable for its historic romanticism, Her Majesty’s exemplary Armed Forces with her past claims to the best navy in the world don’t quite capture the reality of global military power today, though. In truth, the Royal Navy is the fifth biggest, and the Royal Air Force the oldest independent air force in the world doesn’t place in the top ten. But the UK is still by most measures the second biggest Western military power at the moment (though some might argue for France), and their military spending ranked fourth worldwide in 2013. We had a tough time ourselves deciding whether France, Germany or Japan would have better chances in this virtual World War, but here’s why we settled with the UK.
According to the 2013 annua lWorld Economic League Table report by the Centre for Economics and Business Research, the U.K. is on path to becoming the largest Western European economy ahead of Germany by around 2030. It’s conceivable that, by this time, the effects of the current EU debt crisis will have left most European economies trailing behind rising powers like India and Brazil, while the UK retaining its independence from the Eurozone remains insulated from long-term economic slowdown. With only about 2.5% of Britain’s GDP being currently spent on defense, there is feasibly much room for rapid militarization in the event of rising tensions. Close historical and ideological ties with the US doesn’t hurt, either.

Re: Military Strength: The Top 5 Nations That Could Defeat The World(WWIII). by D9ty7(m): 6:51pm On Sep 30, 2015
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Re: Military Strength: The Top 5 Nations That Could Defeat The World(WWIII). by Explorers(m): 6:52pm On Sep 30, 2015
4. India: $46.1 billion spent in 2013; 2.5% of GDP.

* Personnel: 4,768,407.


* Air: 1080 combat Planes/Jets, 140 attack helicopters.


* Sea: Approximately 317,725 tons.


* Nuke estimate: up to 100.


India’s current military spending ranks only 8th worldwide, with France, Japan and even Saudi Arabia spending about $10 billion more in 2013. So what makes the former British colony such a promising candidate for future military supremacy, even more so than its colonial ancestor? A 2007 report by investment bank Goldman Sachs found India’s accelerating growth could see its economy surpassing Britain within a decade, another report just last year by global information group ‘IHS Jane’s’ specifically predicts India’s military budget will overtake Britain’s by 2017, based on current trends. Indeed, the data shows Britain, though some what insulated from the Euro debt crisis, will see cuts where India sees boosts in long-term defense spending. India is poised to catch up perhaps even surpass Western military powers in the near future. Though not all currently active, India also has the second highest number of troops worldwide, largely from massive paramilitary groups who could potentially bolster the Indian Army in the event of global conflict.

Re: Military Strength: The Top 5 Nations That Could Defeat The World(WWIII). by CSTR2: 6:59pm On Sep 30, 2015
What do you mean by defeat the world?
The title of your thread is faulty.
Re: Military Strength: The Top 5 Nations That Could Defeat The World(WWIII). by solodox(m): 7:07pm On Sep 30, 2015
*USA
*MOTHER RUSSIA/CHINA
*GREAT BRITAIN/GERMANY
*JAPAN/NORTH KOREA
*IRAN?

Wow! i stand corrected!

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Re: Military Strength: The Top 5 Nations That Could Defeat The World(WWIII). by EdCure: 7:12pm On Sep 30, 2015
War is the terror of the rich
Terror is the war of the poor.

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Re: Military Strength: The Top 5 Nations That Could Defeat The World(WWIII). by Explorers(m): 7:12pm On Sep 30, 2015
3. The Russian Federation: $90.7 billion spent in 2013; 4.4% of GDP.


* Personnel: 3,250,000.


* Air: 1,900 combat aircrafts,1,655 attack helicopters


*,Sea: Approximately 845,730 tons.


* Nuke estimate: About 1,480 deployed, 4,502 total.


Thanks in part to the accelerating activity of Russia, the third highest defense spender in the world, global military spending is now growing for the first time in five years. Like India, Russia’s budget appears to be doing the opposite of virtually all Western military budgets, including the United States’, and its recent surpassing of Britain is pretty strong evidence of the trend. IHS Jane’s Annual Defense Budgets review predicts Russia’s military spending to grow by over 44% over the next three years, providing a much-desired revitalization of Russia’s military training and equipment. With already the second biggest navy and air force in the world, and the second biggest nuclear arsenal, few doubt Russia’s plans to remain a major military power for quite some time.



* Note: Having the World's deadliest nuclear missile -
( R-36M2 – ICBM "SATAN" )

Techincal Specifications Wiki,Details;

* Manufacturer: Yuzhny machine-Building Plant.

* Weight: 209, 600 kg.

* Length: 32.2m.

* Diameter: 3.05m.

* Warhead: Three Stage Fission-Fussion-Fission, over 20 Mt of TNT.

* Detonation Mechanism: Airburst-Airbust.

* Engine: Two-Stage Liquid Propellent.

* Operational Range: 10,200 - 16,000 km.

* Speed: Mach 23+ or 29,000 kmph +Guidance System-Inertial, Autonomous.

* Accuracy: 220-700m CEP.

* Launch System: Silo.

* Pieces: Over 60.

source: http://aermech.com/top-10-deadliest-nuclear-missiles-icbmirbmwikifeatures-2015-2016/

Re: Military Strength: The Top 5 Nations That Could Defeat The World(WWIII). by An0nimus: 7:21pm On Sep 30, 2015
I take it the OP is Sile12. Good to have you back.
if he's not, well, good to have you on NL Explorers cool

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Re: Military Strength: The Top 5 Nations That Could Defeat The World(WWIII). by Explorers(m): 7:22pm On Sep 30, 2015
2. United States of America: $682 billion spent in in 2013, 4.4% of GDP.


* Personnel: 2,291,910.


* Air: 3,318 combat aircraft; 6,417 attack helicopters


* Sea: Approximately 3,415,893 tons.


* Nuke estimate: Approximately 1654 deployed, 5,113 total.


How can we possibly have more faith in any other military than the United States’? America’s finest are the very best, most technologically advanced and well-trained in the world, and we’veall heard that nauseating statistic that the US spends more on its military than the next 10 superpowers combined. So why,why is America sitting at just second place? Let’s play devil’s advocate and assume a third World War doesn’t happen until sometime at the end of the century, and then consider the following: While the US spent an enormous $682 billion on defense in 2013, IHS Jane’s forecasts a 2014 budget of around $574.9 billion. While that’s still massive reliably more than the next eight or so countries combined a single year drop of over $100 billion (twice the entire defense budget of the UK, give or take) is far from insignificant. Like Western Europe, America’s growing debt problems and increasingly unpopular defense spending appear to be causing some penny-pinching as of late; predictions showing a solid slashing by a near-sixth of its military spending. Yes, that might not mean much when you already have the largest navy and combat air force in the world by a longshot, and a frightening nuclear arsenal, but then there’s also this to consider.

Re: Military Strength: The Top 5 Nations That Could Defeat The World(WWIII). by solodox(m): 7:32pm On Sep 30, 2015
so china takes it home huh?
Re: Military Strength: The Top 5 Nations That Could Defeat The World(WWIII). by Explorers(m): 7:47pm On Sep 30, 2015
1. The People’s Republic of China: $166 billion spent in 2013; 2% of GDP

* Personnel: 7,054,000.


* Air: 1,500 combat aircrafts, helicopters(undocumented),


* Sea: Approximately 708,086 tons.


* Deployed nuke estimate: 240 total "data unreliable"


China’s economic growth since the late 70s has been all but totally unprecedented; what’s more impressive than China’s sheer size today is the speed at which it got there, and there’s something to be said about that speed. Despite being stunted by serious social problems and environmental issues, the Chinese government have demonstrated an admirable capacity to push through ongoing waves of economic and social reform. They’ve proven highly effective in developing the economy and improving the living standard of many Chinese citizens. For most analysts, the big question about China’s growing prominence is whether any underlying tensions will come to the fore; will the government lose control of its population if the government’s economic growth leaves more of the citizens behind?In the way of military supremacy, how much do these questions matter? Some might say an unhappy population can’t coexist with a truly robust and competitive military, some might say the single-party government can’t retain legitimacy at all in the face of an increasingly globalized (even Westernized) world. But here’s what the data has to say:
The 2013 World Economic League Table report predicts China’s Gross Domestic Product to surpass the United States’ in 2028. China currently spends only 2% of its GDP versus America’s 4.4% on military growth. A 2011 International Institute for Strategic Studies report found that given current spending trends, China will reach military equality, or parity, with the US in just 15-20 years. This was before China increased its spending to $166 billion last year. And with the Chinese Communist Party managing the country behind closed doors, how much do we really know about the Chinese military? The full extent of their strength remains to be seen, but with the figures as they are it’s possible that China could defeat America if push came to shove in the realm of tenuous China-U.S.relations, in the event of international conflict. Now that we’ve ranked the 5 future potential World War III competitors by their military trajectories, let’s consider a few more imminent ways a global conflict could arise in the 21st century.

Check it here/source: http://www.therichest.com/rich-list/rich-countries/top-5-countries-most-likely-to-win-world-war-iii/?view=all

Re: Military Strength: The Top 5 Nations That Could Defeat The World(WWIII). by bmxshop: 7:52pm On Sep 30, 2015
I like the chinese flag.

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Re: Military Strength: The Top 5 Nations That Could Defeat The World(WWIII). by Nobody: 8:09pm On Sep 30, 2015
put USA as number 1, Russia number 2 and China number 3.
Yes china is rising very fast and closing the Gap
maybe in 50 years time china could be number 1. not now

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Re: Military Strength: The Top 5 Nations That Could Defeat The World(WWIII). by Chidexter(m): 8:17pm On Sep 30, 2015
bmxshop:
I like the chinese flag.

Chinko
Re: Military Strength: The Top 5 Nations That Could Defeat The World(WWIII). by homealone2(m): 8:38pm On Sep 30, 2015
where is Niaja, We gat Boko boys, Militants, Mend, Massob, etc .

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Re: Military Strength: The Top 5 Nations That Could Defeat The World(WWIII). by macolino(m): 8:40pm On Sep 30, 2015
Scary,I hate war
Re: Military Strength: The Top 5 Nations That Could Defeat The World(WWIII). by Nobody: 8:48pm On Sep 30, 2015
An0nimus:
I take it the OP is Sile12. Good to have you back.

Thought as much
Re: Military Strength: The Top 5 Nations That Could Defeat The World(WWIII). by SkinnyDude(m): 9:02pm On Sep 30, 2015
u mean USA spends over 600billion dollars yearly on military... hmm!!!
Re: Military Strength: The Top 5 Nations That Could Defeat The World(WWIII). by Acjohn: 9:04pm On Sep 30, 2015
The Ops tried in the analysis but what about the chances of weapons or equipment malfunction. You considered the hardware what about the intelligence gathering capacity of the Nation. That is why I may not accept the fact that these hypothesis may determine who win or loose a war.

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Re: Military Strength: The Top 5 Nations That Could Defeat The World(WWIII). by Nobody: 9:07pm On Sep 30, 2015
But i think the Iranians are also catching up,especially when it comes nukes--although I'm not so sure.
Re: Military Strength: The Top 5 Nations That Could Defeat The World(WWIII). by NaijaTalkTown(m): 9:44pm On Sep 30, 2015
The op is totally wrong! U.S and Russia have sophisticated defense systems that can thwart nuclear missiles targeted at them. Russia for example has the best defense system and also the most sophisticated nukes on this planet. Therefore, its attack and defense capabilities are superior to China. U.S on the other hand has the ability to confront China on Chinese coasts though it cannot realistically defeat China "alone". Russia's defense is capable of withstanding attacksfrom U.S, U.K, France and Germany, and the whole of Europe as a matter of fact.
WW3 will be fought in axis just like WW2 and WW1. It would be disastrous for any other axis should Russia, Iran, China and India belong to the same axis. It would be dangerous to underrate the intelligence, technology and nuclear capacity of Iran. Here is my own picks

1. Russia
2. U.S
3. China
4. Germany
5. India/England/France

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Re: Military Strength: The Top 5 Nations That Could Defeat The World(WWIII). by NaijaTalkTown(m): 9:51pm On Sep 30, 2015
Acjohn:
The Ops tried in the analysis but what about the chances of weapons or equipment malfunction. You considered the hardware what about the intelligence gathering capacity of the Nation. That is why I may not accept the fact that these hypothesis may determine who win or loose a war.
I agree with you. That Pakistan has nuclear weapons those not mean it can go to nuclear war with Russia. It does not have the technology and intelligence. If Russia hits first with a supersonic stealth nuclear ICBM, they would be no Pakistan to hit back.

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Re: Military Strength: The Top 5 Nations That Could Defeat The World(WWIII). by 989900: 9:55pm On Sep 30, 2015
USA:
Roughly14,000 aircrafts, and 20 aircraft carriers of which 10 are Nimitz class.

Get outta here.

China and Russia put together:

Have 2-3 aircraft carriers, and less than 8,000 aircrafts


BTW, your list/source are inaccurate.


Use http://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-comparison.asp

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Re: Military Strength: The Top 5 Nations That Could Defeat The World(WWIII). by NaijaTalkTown(m): 9:58pm On Sep 30, 2015
DrGraveYardz:
But i think the Iranians are also catching up,especially when it comes nukes--although I'm not so sure.
That is the problem! Nobody is sure of Iran's nuclear capability. Iran has done a good job keeping everyone guessing how powerful they are for decades. What we all know for sure is that Iran is dangerous. This is a good strategy if you ask me.
Re: Military Strength: The Top 5 Nations That Could Defeat The World(WWIII). by Ugomba(m): 10:01pm On Sep 30, 2015
@OP. where is Israel on your list?
Re: Military Strength: The Top 5 Nations That Could Defeat The World(WWIII). by NaijaTalkTown(m): 10:02pm On Sep 30, 2015
989900:
USA:
Over 14,000 aircrafts, and 20 aircraft carriers of which 10 are Nimitz class.

Get outta here.

China and Russia put together:

Have 3-4 aircraft carriers, and less than 9,000 aircrafts


BTW, your list/source are inaccurate.
But Russia has the largest submarine in the world that can sink the US carriers in a week. Russian subs are meant for American vessels.

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