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Re: End Of ISIS? Putin Sends In His Most Ruthless Special Forces by prof800(m): 9:56pm On Oct 09, 2015
Hmmm, when Russia gets into action America usually watches in envy. grin

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Re: End Of ISIS? Putin Sends In His Most Ruthless Special Forces by podosci(m): 9:58pm On Oct 09, 2015
Well, for starters the British and their cousins the US enslaved millions of our ancestors, many died in chains, the ounces who weren't enslaved had to endure the brutal effect of colonization by the British and their European friends....I stand to be corrected when I say without slavery and colonization Africa won't need Aids to survive

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Re: End Of ISIS? Putin Sends In His Most Ruthless Special Forces by advocates: 10:05pm On Oct 09, 2015
Symphony007:
Foolish nigerians! I don't know where you folks get all your nonsense bravado about putin from, putin has not ended islamic terrorism in chechnynia, he wants to end it in Syria? Funny!! That guy is just there to clear the opposition to pres. Assad but he does'nt know what he is getting himself into.
Can't agree more. He toe the line of a hardliner to defend a known dictator against the wishes of world power of U.S.A and Britain, and yet some kids who knows nothing about this ground ploy are hailing Putin.

Report has it that, the Russians bombardment only targeted the free Syrian army sponsored by America and not isi as speculated a cause that will hunt Russia in the future.

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Re: End Of ISIS? Putin Sends In His Most Ruthless Special Forces by Afroconnect: 10:13pm On Oct 09, 2015
Putin is the man of the century-respect.

America created isis,they armed rebels. And trained them,those rebels today are what we now call isis. Its shameful how america treats the rest of the world and no one except russia can stand up to them.

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Re: End Of ISIS? Putin Sends In His Most Ruthless Special Forces by Afroconnect: 10:19pm On Oct 09, 2015
Symphony007:
I see, the u.s created the AIDS virus which has ravaged africa. And used USAID to help curtail it. They also created ebola, cancer, malaria, polio, measles and many other diseases which has threatened to wipe off africa but for their help both in development of cure and procurement for poor nation's, what part has russia and China played in all of this? Africans are just myopic and attracted to bravado and shinny stuff.

You are quite dumb,even a kid who observes politics knows America created Isis-so what's your argument?

Will you be happy if America comes to Nigeria and start arming and propping up boko haram against the Nigerian state and people?

Cos that's what's happening in syria. Russia are the noble ones here.

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Re: End Of ISIS? Putin Sends In His Most Ruthless Special Forces by CSTR2: 10:22pm On Oct 09, 2015
Idiottic Nigerians praising a man fighting for parochial russian interests. Putin who dosen't really care about the fate of syrians as long as assad remains there.
The US donates billions in subsidized HIV drugs to Nigerians among other things, and suddenly US is the enemy.
This is why most americans don't even want the US spending its wealth on poor nations. It is never appreciated.
The US would take a step back and lie low, and watch them all come crying to america very soon. This time, america will look the other way.

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Re: End Of ISIS? Putin Sends In His Most Ruthless Special Forces by CSTR2: 10:26pm On Oct 09, 2015
During the ebola crises, the whole damn world was looking to america for a cure.
If i were the american president, we will discover the cure and give it to americans alone.
Let the rest of the world go to russia for a cure.
Ungrateful cunnts.

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Re: End Of ISIS? Putin Sends In His Most Ruthless Special Forces by advocates: 11:02pm On Oct 09, 2015
Afroconnect:


You are quite dumb,even a kid who observes politics knows America created Isis-so what's your argument?

Will you be happy if America comes to Nigeria and start arming and propping up boko haram against the Nigerian state and people?

Cos that's what's happening in syria. Russia are the noble ones here.
How has the Americans sponsored Isis? Americans were only interested in ousting Bashir after it became clear that he was waging a campaign of Genocide against those that oppose him. Before this time, Isis were only in Iraq fighting to dispose the Iraqi government.

I wonder how chaotic the world would have been today without the interventionist role played by United state and their policing duty. History will vindicate America for its diplomacy and mediator in many countries affair that would have led to total breakdown.

So unfortunate how brutal governments like Russia and China that has cases of human abuses suddenly become a hero to many unformed people here.

U.s couldn't have trained isis knowing U.s stance against aiding terrorism. We could readily say that Isis later had access to the free Syrian army, an act that America had little power over.

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Re: End Of ISIS? Putin Sends In His Most Ruthless Special Forces by CSTR2: 11:10pm On Oct 09, 2015
advocates:
How has the Americans sponsored Isis? Americans were only interested in ousting Bashir after it became clear that he was waging a campaign of Genocide against those that oppose him. Before this time, Isis were only in Iraq fighting to dispose the Iraqi government.

I wonder how chaotic the world would have been today without the interventionist role played by United state and their policing duty. History will vindicate America for its diplomacy and mediator in many countries affair that would have led to total breakdown.

So unfortunate how brutal governments like Russia and China that has cases of human abuses suddenly become a hero to many unformed people here.

U.s couldn't have trained isis knowing U.s stance against aiding terrorism. We could readily say that Isis later had access to the free Syrian army, an act that America had little power over.
Americans are already asking the govt to bring the wealth and military home.
Let the rest of the world deal with their own shitt, afterall american diplomacy and democracy is detested while russian and chinese dictatorship and autocracy is worshipped.

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Re: End Of ISIS? Putin Sends In His Most Ruthless Special Forces by CSTR2: 11:17pm On Oct 09, 2015
prof800:
Hmmm, when Russia gets into action America usually watches in envy. grin
America has been there and done that many many times.
The russians are newbies.

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Re: End Of ISIS? Putin Sends In His Most Ruthless Special Forces by alexis007(m): 11:53pm On Oct 09, 2015
As in.....the best of the best.....just for ISIL?

Inasmuch as I cherish Vladmir Putin, I honestly think he is a bit rash. He wants to throw some weight around. Granted. Must he do it by acting before thinking? He should just soak away his rosary and hope upon hope that his mission in the ME doesn't get bungled in the process......Too forward and instinctive for a right-thinking human.

His elite forces in Syria already is a budding problem all Putin's loyalists should hope that it doesn't blossom. Only God can imagine what would happen if these guys are disgraced in Syria. Anyways, that's what you get you have underestimated the enemy a bit too much. You think ISIS is a kinda mosquito you can kill in one swat? and you're fighting on an unfamiliar soil? Gosh!....Putin must be a comedian.

In my thought, he should have saved the best for last. But then, what do I even know? undecided
Re: End Of ISIS? Putin Sends In His Most Ruthless Special Forces by jornie(m): 12:25am On Oct 10, 2015
Bollinger:


Terrorism cannot be defeated by force. It is an ideology. How do you kill an idea? By re education and re orientation. Using force will only contain it temporarily. Case in point. BH exist today because of the lack of quality education in the North as well as their orientation was and is phucked up. Why are southerners not part of BH? Because they know better and have been given quality orientation and education from birth. The trick is to get the north to see what the South sees.

Re: End Of ISIS? Putin Sends In His Most Ruthless Special Forces by Bollinger(m): 12:28am On Oct 10, 2015
[quote author=jornie post=38835879][/quote]

Let me clear the st.upid look on your face with a question. scroll through history and give me an instance where force has been effective in quelling terrorism. I am an experienced warfighter. I wear the t shirt, so i think i should know a thing or two about the subject.
Re: End Of ISIS? Putin Sends In His Most Ruthless Special Forces by jornie(m): 12:35am On Oct 10, 2015
Bollinger:


Let me clear the st.upid look on your face with a question. scroll through history and give me an instance where force has been effective in quelling terrorism. I am an experienced warfighter. I wear the t shirt, so i think i should know a thing or two about the subject.

Re: End Of ISIS? Putin Sends In His Most Ruthless Special Forces by Bollinger(m): 12:43am On Oct 10, 2015
jornie:


Lol. . . The only reason you think so is because of your limitations. Your experiences are limited to where you've been, who you know and what you've done. See my point? i'd bet you'd freak out if i told that i'd haloed from an aircraft countless times, taken fire from insurgents, back packed through more countries you can only dream of, slept butt n.aked in a makeshift igloo in the worst alaskan winter etc. Scratching your head yet? I eliminate phuckers like you for a living. I get paid for it too.

I know you'll disappear after this post. grin

Re: End Of ISIS? Putin Sends In His Most Ruthless Special Forces by jornie(m): 1:06am On Oct 10, 2015
Bollinger:


Lol. . . The only reason you think so is because of your limitations. Your experiences are limited to where you've been, who you know and what you've done. See my point? i'd bet you'd freak out if i told that i'd haloed from an aircraft countless times, taken fire from insurgents, back packed through more countries you can only dream of, slept butt n.aked in a makeshift igloo in the worst alaskan winter etc. Scratching your head yet? I eliminate phuckers like you for a living. I get paid for it too.

I know you'll disappear after this post. grin
relax..someone cannot play with you again?.. grin

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Re: End Of ISIS? Putin Sends In His Most Ruthless Special Forces by abiambo(m): 1:07am On Oct 10, 2015
U 4got Tunisia, nigeria
gboss4sure:


And the Americans are there to support and train isis in the name of moderate rebels who always defect to isis after their training with ammunitions given to them by usa.

They almighty usa has already done enough damage to world peace starting from Iraq to Libya, Syria and ukraine.

It's time Russia and china steps in to end the problems the americanas are causing in the world.

Every war and conflict happening in this world always have a tie to the criminal US government.
Re: End Of ISIS? Putin Sends In His Most Ruthless Special Forces by Nobody: 1:10am On Oct 10, 2015
i dont knw/care abt putins political whateva,bt dis guy is a model man in todays world of gay men.putin z my role model,a tough guy.
Re: End Of ISIS? Putin Sends In His Most Ruthless Special Forces by Sakes: 2:05am On Oct 10, 2015
byrron:


You deliberately create a problem for me then nurture it until it blossomed and wreck havoc: MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.

You now start advertising yourself to the world on how u are gonna send humanitarian aids to help the victims of the problems you deliberately created which is purely for exploitation purposes.

Then you now start claiming that you care so much for me and you now love me more than I even love myself?


THAT IS SO DECEITFUL.


Russians don't play such deceitful game's, they go for whatever they want either by negotiation or by force but not by deceit.

LISTEN TO THIS MAN...... HE JUST STATED THE OBVIOUS TRUTH!!!!!
GOOD OBSERVATION Man!!!!!

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Re: End Of ISIS? Putin Sends In His Most Ruthless Special Forces by Sakes: 2:16am On Oct 10, 2015
Bollinger:


Lol. . . The only reason you think so is because of your limitations. Your experiences are limited to where you've been, who you know and what you've done. See my point? i'd bet you'd freak out if i told that i'd haloed from an aircraft countless times, taken fire from insurgents, back packed through more countries you can only dream of, slept butt n.aked in a makeshift igloo in the worst alaskan winter etc. Scratching your head yet? I eliminate phuckers like you for a living. I get paid for it too.

I know you'll disappear after this post. grin

Well, you have a point!!!!
But, the real threat here is the US..... Their financing of the rebels to oust ASSAD rather than initiate negotiation is the onus of the problem....
The essence of what RUSSIA is doing now lies in their ability to accord the Syrian troops some control to enable them rebuild!!!!! Clearly, no matter how peaceful this nation becomes, nothing can REDEEM the damage wrought through human & infrastructural losses....in SYRIA, which could have been prevented. Now, the US is restrategising to frustrate Russian efforts in Syria.....
The MEDIA IS THEIR MAJOR TOOL of Persuasion!!!!
I bet IRAQ is no better now.....

How RUTHLESS IS ASSAD compared to SAUDIARABIA!!!! Yet, US is abeiting Saudi-Arabia....
Let's be wise..... US is not just protecting their interest. They're also building it!!!!!

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Re: End Of ISIS? Putin Sends In His Most Ruthless Special Forces by Sakes: 2:26am On Oct 10, 2015
advocates:
How has the Americans sponsored Isis? Americans were only interested in ousting Bashir after it became clear that he was waging a campaign of Genocide against those that oppose him. Before this time, Isis were only in Iraq fighting to dispose the Iraqi government.

I wonder how chaotic the world would have been today without the interventionist role played by United state and their policing duty. History will vindicate America for its diplomacy and mediator in many countries affair that would have led to total breakdown.

So unfortunate how brutal governments like Russia and China that has cases of human abuses suddenly become a hero to many unformed people here.

U.s couldn't have trained isis knowing U.s stance against aiding terrorism. We could readily say that Isis later had access to the free Syrian army, an act that America had little power over.

You understand very little about the world SIR.... VERY LITTLE IN DEED!!!!
Re: End Of ISIS? Putin Sends In His Most Ruthless Special Forces by mekonglobal(m): 4:01am On Oct 10, 2015
[quote author=jmoore post=38828483] Enyi a mechie onu!! Stop embarrassing yourself. It is sai Putin!









Buhahahahaha Oh my God! una no go kill persin for dis forum...
Re: End Of ISIS? Putin Sends In His Most Ruthless Special Forces by Bollinger(m): 4:06am On Oct 10, 2015
Sakes:


Well, you have a point!!!!
But, the real threat here is the US..... Their financing of the rebels to oust ASSAD rather than initiate negotiation is the onus of the problem....
The essence of what RUSSIA is doing now lies in their ability to accord the Syrian troops some control to enable them rebuild!!!!! Clearly, no matter how peaceful this nation becomes, nothing can REDEEM the damage wrought through human & infrastructural losses....in SYRIA, which could have been prevented. Now, the US is restrategising to frustrate Russian efforts in Syria.....
The MEDIA IS THEIR MAJOR TOOL of Persuasion!!!!
I bet IRAQ is no better now.....

How RUTHLESS IS ASSAD compared to SAUDIARABIA!!!! Yet, US is abeiting Saudi-Arabia....
Let's be wise..... US is not just protecting their interest. They're also building it!!!!!

That is not the threat. The threat is terrorism in general. the rebels weren't terrorist in the beginning but as the war waged on, they were infiltrated by extremists from iraq and libya that was when U.S arms and training support stopped and switched to air raids. Look how long we fought in Iraq and afghanistan? what is there to show for it? The most important thing we learnt is what i stated earlier; re education and re orientation is what is needed to wipe out terrorism in the future. Which is why there is so much emphasis in our military civil affairs. We are trying brick by brick to change the way the younger generations in iraq and afghanistan think before they get radicalized. Using force as a long term solution is flawed, it can on contain terrorism temporarily from spreading. I hope Nigeria's military understands this soon.
Re: End Of ISIS? Putin Sends In His Most Ruthless Special Forces by Nobody: 4:06am On Oct 10, 2015
Symphony007:
I totally agree with you that the americans have made very strategic errors in the world but you display nativity by saying russia and China is coming to "clear up" the world. Those two countries care for one thing and one thing only, "their interest". Do you think putin will be in Syria if not for assad? At least for all their evils, the u.s has done a lot of good for Africa and other poor nation's through USAID and being the largest contributor to the UN, meanwhile tell me what humanitarian program russia and China has done for the world?
my brother, stop replying little children here that knows absolutely nothing about world politics... all themm Ill exposed brats...

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Re: End Of ISIS? Putin Sends In His Most Ruthless Special Forces by Sakes: 5:12am On Oct 10, 2015
CSTR2:
Americans are already asking the govt to bring the wealth and military home.
Let the rest of the world deal with their own shitt, afterall american diplomacy and democracy is detested while russian and chinese dictatorship and autocracy is worshipped.

You understand little about History and lesser even about International Politics.....
I'm sorry I won't have explain the needed much here to you!!//
You just need to do a little Home work!!!!!
I see you watch NEWS a lot perhaps, & you always believe what you're told!!!!
Re: End Of ISIS? Putin Sends In His Most Ruthless Special Forces by Sakes: 5:36am On Oct 10, 2015
Bollinger:


That is not the threat. The threat is terrorism in general. the rebels weren't terrorist in the beginning but as the war waged on, they were infiltrated by extremists from iraq and libya that was when U.S arms and training support stopped and switched to air raids. Look how long we fought in Iraq and afghanistan? what is there to show for it? The most important thing we learnt is what i stated earlier; re education and re orientation is what is needed to wipe out terrorism in the future. Which is why there is so much emphasis in our military civil affairs. We are trying brick by brick to change the way the younger generations in iraq and afghanistan think before they get radicalized. Using force as a long term solution is flawed, it can on contain terrorism temporarily from spreading. I hope Nigeria's military understands this soon.

You're quite right..... Clearly so!!!! That re-orientation & education is a prime solution, though it's Long term...... But what you don't understand is what CIA does in the international community!!!!
I will give you a hint & let you discover the rest.....

MUCH OF WHAT YOU CALLED THE "ARAB SPRING" is by no means what you suppose it is......
The infiltration into this nations through Street, social Media & strategic intelligence is what you will understand with exposed CLASSIFIED documents
It is so for LIBYA, TUNISIA, EGYPT & some others...
Go do the research.... Now, SYRIA, even UKRAINE was so infiltrated & engineered to REVOLT...Its easier to do now even with media channeling...
CIA may have had trained Revolutionaries...

The UNjustified INVASION of IRAQ was the major cause of mid-eastern Insurgency, Fundamentalism only happens to be the major way the locals can solicit assistance from indigenes to fend off Western interference, it overtime became embellished. We know where the problem. Started....

SAUDI-ARABIA is the HUB of FUNDAMENTALISM. In fact, it is institutionalized there!!! Why are they not a major concern to the US....ASSAD is very secular in comparison...to the SAUDIs. He just can't ally to their cause....
The truth is there.... Go find it
Isreal almost sacked a whole Civilization without any intense cause... for a land which in 1948 the British merely aƧcorded them with Imperial might...
Nothing was done.....

What exactly is ASSAD's offense? Dictatorship??
At some point in a nation's growth, its necessary, just like the dictatorship of a father sustains a child to adolescence...when he knows....
The west had EMPERORS under whom they actually became power...to colonise till they innovated the system... What the Heck?
LIBYA was far better in social services than the US under Gaddafi....
So what's the objective in all this
In needed time when the basic has been resolved people will change the system....

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Re: End Of ISIS? Putin Sends In His Most Ruthless Special Forces by Sakes: 5:57am On Oct 10, 2015
I believe in the ultimacy of private enterprise....
The need for a meritorious assertion of talent....
A world of conservative respect & Liberal means!!!!
But, I don't cherish an illogical & misguided approach to problem solving in the World!!!

The West understands the Future they want to Achieve but don't quite know how to get there!!!! Or rather they have lost immediate emergency alternatives!!!!!
Reason being that they always lose out on the dynamics of HUMAN SOCIETY!!?
Re: End Of ISIS? Putin Sends In His Most Ruthless Special Forces by Bollinger(m): 5:59am On Oct 10, 2015
Sakes:


You're quite right..... Clearly so!!!! That re-orientation & education is a prime solution, though it's Long term...... But what you don't understand is what CIA does in the international community!!!!
I will give you a hint & let you discover the rest.....

MUCH OF WHAT YOU CALLED THE "ARAB SPRING" is by no means what you suppose it is......
The infiltration into this nations through Street, social Media & strategic intelligence is what you will understand with exposed CLASSIFIED documents
It is so for LIBYA, TUNISIA, EGYPT & some others...
Go do the research.... Now, SYRIA, even UKRAINE was so infiltrated & engineered to REVOLT...Its easier to do now even with media channeling...
CIA may have had trained Revolutionaries...

The UNjustified INVASION of IRAQ was the major cause of mid-eastern Insurgency, Fundamentalism only happens to be the major way the locals can solicit assistance from indigenes to fend off Western interference, it overtime became embellished. We know where the problem. Started....

SAUDI-ARABIA is the HUB of FUNDAMENTALISM. In fact, it is institutionalized there!!! Why are they not a major concern to the US....ASSAD is very secular in comparison...to the SAUDIs. He just can't ally to their cause....
The truth is there.... Go find it
Isreal almost sacked a whole Civilization without any intense cause... for a land which in 1948 the British merely aƧcorded them with Imperial might...
Nothing was done.....

What exactly is ASSAD's offense? Dictatorship??
At some point in a nation's growth, its necessary, just like the dictatorship of a father sustains a child to adolescence...when he knows....
The west had EMPERORS under whom they actually became power...to colonise till they innovated the system... What the Heck?
LIBYA was far better in social services than the US under Gaddafi....
So what's the objective in all this
In needed time when the basic has been resolved people will change the system....

I agree with all your points except that of which you said dictatorship is not something we should be concerned about. Would you want the military regime back in power in Nigeria? Assad has weapons of mass destruction in the form of gasses and biological warfare. Plus, his oppression of his people was not something to sniff at. America made a lot of mistakes but what i like about the U.S is they always learn from it and move on. That is why they are great. As bad as you think the U.S is, you don't want Russia or china dominating world affairs.
Re: End Of ISIS? Putin Sends In His Most Ruthless Special Forces by Volksfuhrer(m): 6:02am On Oct 10, 2015
stanech:


I think I prefer Russia and china. Fvck the aids from the Us. I understand that you have to police the world but why fund a group as deadly as isis?
I think the major problem is Obama. He messed up so bad.

Obama has been a monumental disaster on Middle East policies.

The US is familiar with ISIS whose purpose is to bait Jihadist and ultimately destabilize the region. The idea is to Keep the focus of terrorism in the backyard of Arabs. The West do not want the Middle East crisis to end, they want an interminable war of attrition to fester between different groups of Jihadist. Coldly brilliant! But the US took one factor for granted: Putin!

Putin saw through the charade, he knew NATO and US "airstrikes" on ISIS have been laughable. Now, he is pulling the rug off the feet of ISIS very sponsors: NATO.
Re: End Of ISIS? Putin Sends In His Most Ruthless Special Forces by Sakes: 6:11am On Oct 10, 2015
Bollinger:


I agree with all your points except that of which you said dictatorship is not something we should be concerned about. Would you want the military regime back in power in Nigeria? Assad has weapons of mass destruction in the form of gasses and biological warfare. Plus, his oppression of his people was not something to sniff at. America made a lot of mistakes but what i like about the U.S is they always learn from it and move on. That is why they are great. As bad as you think the U.S is, you don't want Russia or china dominating world affairs.

What exactly do you think is the solution to the Syrian Crises in the light of present realities?
Re: End Of ISIS? Putin Sends In His Most Ruthless Special Forces by kosovo(m): 6:17am On Oct 10, 2015
Symphony007:
you can rant on about your conspiracy theories if the u.s sponsoring all the coups and bad govt. In Africa but until you provide facts, they remain conspiracy theories and figments of your imagination, what is fact however is that without USAID and u.s leadership in the UN, Africa would have been ravaged by HIV and still be grappling with petty diseases like polio, measles, malaria, diarrhoea, etc..

No wonder your life is not adding up..
You call these mere figments of an imagination?

You are far buddy, keep kissing the back-side of the. Americans..

Go and do proper research of how demonic the CIA is and to what extent they have caused oppression all over the world.

Even Trump, though he talks too much acknowledges the fact the U.S messed up big time in certain nations like Iraq, Lybia, Egypt. Etc.

Show me the weapons of mass destruction and I will show you where you acquire more sense. undecided
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