Anas09:
He brought a curse upon his people.

Annunaki:
What a confused satanic religion

Empiree:
There is difference between visiting graves and worshiping graves. It's not forbidden in Islam to visit the grave and pray for the dead. Worshiping the grave is 100% haram and that's what the prophet talked about.

Visiting graves is encouraged actually so that we reflect and remember that we too will be there some day. prophet Muhammad(SAW) encouraged to visit graves.

basilico:
is praying by the graveside worship?

Give an example of a grave that is worshipped by Christians or Jews.

Empiree:
There is difference between visiting graves and worshiping graves. It's not forbidden in Islam to visit the grave and pray for the dead. Worshiping the grave is 100% haram and that's what the prophet talked about.

Visiting graves is encouraged actually so that we reflect and remember that we too will be there some day. prophet Muhammad(SAW) encouraged to visit graves.

parisbookaddict:
another brilliant post malvisguy212. ..i haven't looked at it this way..

mohammed indirectly curses muslims who visit and pray at his grave. ..especially the shias...

yazach empiree u may need to give ur opinion on this

malvisguy212:
hey bro, longest time, good to see you once again.

I totally disagree with you, what the purpose of visiting grave ? The prophet Muhammad designated Mecca as the holy city of Islam and it followers pray five times a day in that direction (east) and muhammed was buried in that location,muslims visit the grave and pay homage to the grave.

Empiree:
See, prayer(salat) and supererogatory prayer are solely for Allah (God) alone, period. There is nothing wrong praying anywhere except places where Shariah forbids like bathrooms(toilets) etc. At the graveyard however, if say for instance a mosque is built on a grave without them knowing and later they found out, it is reported that the mosque be razed. It's also haram to pray facing grave even though the grave is in direction of qibla. One should seek to pray some place else. There are times or some places with constraint of space, yes, one may find himself in such situation where you have to pray besides grave. There isnt nothing wrong praying next to (besides) it. What is wrong is facing it or praying on top of it. However, ignorant ones who know little to nothing, because of them it's highly recommended not to pray by the grave (standing, bowing, sitting on top of grave). These constitute act of shirk. Besides there are enough space to pray. It would be wrong to deliberately seek to pray around grave all the time for no reason. When i said prayer, i meant obligatory salat. But there is absolutely nothing wrong to visit grave and ask Allah for forgiveness of the person or pray for them NOT PRAY TO THEM. This is something one can do at home actually because prayer can be accepted anywhere. Generally visiting grave is encourage for us to sober, reflect etc.

You may want to read important info here http://islamqa.info/en/65944


At the time of the prophet, is what the hadith referred to. It means Jews and Christians at the time did worship the grave etc. Obviously, your form of worship is different today except some minority somewhere who still do. What do you have in common with Christians of old is you worship Jesus. Thats shirk.

basilico:
Christians are not forbidden to pray anywhere.

Christians pray direct to God......Christians were given a direct line to God

Muslims grabbed temple Mount and are lying there was no Jewish presence on temple mount

Empiree:
Including filthy places?


Who is Jesus? God or human?

plappville:


[s]Stop dodging by changing diverting the thread. Muslims are cursed see proof in the air..

Empiree:
You are welcome. My preceding posts answered your question. Keep reading

Empiree:
Including filthy places?


Who is Jesus? God or human?

basilico:


Christians are not forbidden to pray anywhere. The Protestant evangelical Christians only need to bow their heads in prayer whenever wherever.Protestants desire that your eyes are closed but it not mandatory neither do catholics desire eyes closed.
Christians pray direct to God and don't need to do some pagan rituals for their prayer to reach God. Allah demanded something different like raising your Arrses for him to hear you.
Christians were given a direct line to God Catholics go thru Mary the mother of Jesus. If you read the bible when Jesus said its over the curtain in the Temple were ripped off.
Then Muslims grabbed temple Mount and are lying there was no Jewish presence on temple mount

malvisguy212:
NO the post did not by NO mean answer my question, were did muhammed got the idea, "christians and Jews build temple on there dead prophet tomb" ?

Empiree:
Maybe you need to re-read my post. Anyways, here is the hadith again and its meaning:

Aisha and Abdullah bin Abbas (Radhiyallahu Anhum) narrated that when the last moment of the life of Rasulullah (Sallalahu Alaihi Wasallam) came he started putting his Khasmisa on his face and when he felt hot and short of breath he took it off his face and said, “May Allah curse the Jews and Christians for they built the places of worship at the graves of their Prophets.” (The narrators says) Rasulullah was warning (the Muslims) of what those (Jews and Christians) had done.


Meaning of the hadith:

The word La’nat means to be far from the mercy of Allah. The Muhaditheen explain that the reason why Rasulullah (Sallalahu Alaihi Wasallam) said this was that the time for Rasulullah (Sallalahu Alaihi Wasallam) to leave this world was close at hand and he did not desire that his Ummah imitate the Jews and Christian by making his grave also into a place of worship. The reason why he disliked the grave becoming a place of worship is that sooner or later people start worshipping the grave itself. The whole mission of Rasulullah (Sallalahu Alaihi Wasallam) was to eliminate Shirk and turn people towards the oneness of Allah. How could he have approved that his grave becomes a means for people to do shirk? Therefore such stern words were used so that people refrain from coming close to Shirk. In another Hadith it comes:

Abu Hurairah narrates that Nabi (Sallalahu Alaihi Wasallam) supplicated, “O Allah, do not make my grave into an idol. Allah’s curse be upon that nation who mad the graves of their Prophets into a place of worship. (Musnad Imam Ahmed)

And there are many numerous ahadith that report this:

He (PBUH) also said: “When a righteous man died among them, they would build a place of worship over his grave and put those images in it. They are the most evil of mankind before Allaah.” (Al-Bukhaari, 427; Muslim, 528)

He(PBUH) said: “Those who came before you took the graves of their Prophets and righteous people as places of worship. Do not take graves as places of worship – I forbid you to do that.” (Narrated by Muslim in his Saheeh, 532, from Jundab ibn ‘Abd-Allaah al-Bajali).

As for historical Jews and Christians whom the prophet(SAW) referred to could not have meant all Jews and all Christians. Most likely extremists amongst them at the time and it was obvious. For Muhammad(SAW) to utter such statement and warned us not to imitate Jews and Christians, as far as i am concern it means worshiping graves by Jews and Christians was prevalent at that time.

Below article, question posed at a Jew. Historical account of Jewish worship via the graves of saints and Prophets

Question:
Are there any examples in the Jewish history of Jewish people falling into worshiping the dead saints and prophets in their tombs ?

Also, does building Tomb and concrete structures over the graves of prophets and saints open a door to idol worship, Shituf, or Avodah Zarah? Have past or current Jewish people have fallen into this trap?

There is a pointer to this fact in many Muslim narratives like this one:

"Beware of those who preceded you(Jews and Christians) and used to take the graves of their prophets and righteous men as places of worship, but you must not take graves as mosques; I forbid you to do that." [Sahih Muslim 1:1083]

Answer:
Jews often pray at the graves of righteous people. One popular site, for example, is Me'aras HaMachpelah, the biblical grave of many of the forefathers. It seems that Muslims also pray there, though perhaps don't use the place as a mosque.

However, praying to a person is absolutely forbidden as much as idolatry. If there are any historical accounts of a Jew doing so, they are of a transgressor. The Kitzur Shulchan Aruch (128:13) makes this clear:
http://judaism.stackexchange.com/questions/26114/historical-account-of-jewish-worship-via-the-graves-of-saints-and-prophets

plappville:


[s]Wast of time. Bring proof from the bible. Example, You accused me of stealing your tv. To prove this you should find your tv in my hand/house. If u cannot find it with me then. You lied against me. As simple as ABC.[/s]

What else do you want?! If he brings proves from the bible now, parisbookaddict would be opening her brown teeth that the Prophet Muhammad(sallallaahu alayhi wasallam) copied from bible, now we move away from the bible you still complain. The points my bro stated are very clear, I seriously don't know your problem. Looks like there's nothing that can satisfy you, bunch of desperate dullards!

plappville:


Wast of time. Bring proof from the bible. Example, You accused me of stealing your tv. To prove this you should find your tv in my hand/house. If u cannot find it with me then. You lied against me. As simple as ABC.

Demmzy15:
What else do you want?! If he brings proves from the bible now, parisbookaddict would be opening her brown teeth that the Prophet Muhammad(sallallaahu alayhi wasallam) copied from bible, now we move away from the bible you still complain. The points my bro stated are very clear, I seriously don't know your problem. Looks like there's nothing that can satisfy you, bunch of desperate dullards!

dolphinheart:
Prophet month said : they build (to construct)the places of worship at the graves(a location) of their prophets(known individuals) . Can you guys give us examples of these constructions.? Cus I dnt think he said they worshiped at the grave as some are trying to imply.

Empiree:
Proof what?