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Has The Old Testament Been Corrupted? by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:04pm On Oct 26, 2015
Has the Old Testament been corrupted? An important question raised by skeptics, Muslims, Mormons, and many others is whether the OT has been corrupted. The short answer is "No." But the question is: how do we know this?
Re: Has The Old Testament Been Corrupted? by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:37am On Oct 27, 2015
Has the Old Testament been corrupted?
Re: Has The Old Testament Been Corrupted? by Scholar8200(m): 10:30am On Oct 27, 2015
No, it has not been corrupted.

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Re: Has The Old Testament Been Corrupted? by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:40pm On Oct 30, 2015
OLAADEGBU:


Has the Old Testament been corrupted? An important question raised by skeptics, Muslims, Mormons, and many others is whether the OT has been corrupted. The short answer is "No." But the question is: how do we know this?

Suggested answer:

An important question raised by skeptics, Muslims, Mormons, and many others is whether the Old Testament has been corrupted. The short answer is "No." How do we know this? There are a number of ways in which we can test and see how accurately the Old Testament has been preserved including the number of manuscripts, the copying process, the Dead Sea Scrolls, and the testimony of Jesus.

The Number of Old Testament Manuscripts

A helpful way to look at the Old Testament’s textual history is to compare it to other documents of antiquity. For most ancient documents, we have about a thousand-year gap between the writing of the document and the first available copy that archaeologists find. For example, with a Roman historian called Tacitus, our first manuscript copy of his work comes from around A.D. 1100, and we have 20 total manuscript copies today. Interestingly, Tacitus actually wrote his works around A.D. 100. Most historians do not doubt that we have a really good idea what Tacitus actually wrote even though we only have about 20 total partial or complete manuscripts and the earliest manuscript comes about 1,000 years after the original writing.

In comparison, our first manuscript copy of the Old Testament (dates from 250 B.C.) comes about 150 years after the original book was written (i.e., probably Malachi about 400 B.C.). Also, we actually have over 10,000 Old Testament manuscripts!

https://carm.org/old-testament-corrupted

To be continued...

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Re: Has The Old Testament Been Corrupted? by MrPresident1: 6:25pm On Oct 30, 2015
Actually OLAADEGBU, the Old Testament is the Bible as seen from Paul's advice to Timothy:

2 Timothy 3:14
But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them;
15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus


Paul said Timothy had known the Holy Scriptures right from childhood, the scriptures Paul is referring to here obviously are NOT Paul's epistles, rather, they are the Law and the prophets.

But many people today say and even strenuously insist that we must never practice the Law. The lack of understanding of what the Law really is, is the reason for this very absurd position. This is the conclusion of the whole Law of God, the requirements of God from us:

Micah 6:8
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God?

Deuteronomy 10:16
Circumcise therefore the foreskin of your heart, and be no more stiffnecked.

Rom 13:8
Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.
9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.


The background to all this is to clarify the common notion that the Old Testament has bin done away with, the Old Testament is in fact the Bible.

As to the Bible being corrupted, this can only be done by the people who hate God, and he has promised them a recompense in due time:

Deuteronomy 32:40-43
For I lift up my hand to heaven, and say, I live for ever.
41 If I whet my glittering sword, and mine hand take hold on judgment; I will render vengeance to mine enemies, and will reward them that hate me.
42 I will make mine arrows drunk with blood, and my sword shall devour flesh; and that with the blood of the slain and of the captives, from the beginning of revenges upon the enemy.
43 Rejoice, O ye nations, with his people: for he will avenge the blood of his servants, and will render vengeance to his adversaries, and will be merciful unto his land, and to his people.


There has to be a standard for the Bible, multiplication of Bible interpretations under the guise of making them 'easier' to read is one sure way of introducing corruption into the word.
Re: Has The Old Testament Been Corrupted? by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:15am On Nov 02, 2015
OLAADEGBU:


Suggested answer:



https://carm.org/old-testament-corrupted

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The way Ancient Texts were Copied:

Ancient texts were not preserved by Xerox copy machines unfortunately. Instead, as with the Old Testament, trained Jewish scribes would copy portions of Scripture by hand on animal skins. Around 100 B.C., these scribes began to use papyrus or paper to copy the Old Testament. When these Jews copied various portions of the Bible, they took extreme care to ensure the precision of their scribal copying. In fact, in some cases, if there was one error between a copy and the original, the copy was to be burned.

To be continued...
Re: Has The Old Testament Been Corrupted? by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:58am On Nov 02, 2015
OLAADEGBU:


The way Ancient Texts were Copied:

Ancient texts were not preserved by Xerox copy machines unfortunately. Instead, as with the Old Testament, trained Jewish scribes would copy portions of Scripture by hand on animal skins. Around 100 B.C., these scribes began to use papyrus or paper to copy the Old Testament. When these Jews copied various portions of the Bible, they took extreme care to ensure the precision of their scribal copying. In fact, in some cases, if there was one error between a copy and the original, the copy was to be burned.

To be continued...

The Dead Sea Scrolls and the Age of the Old Testament Manuscripts

Even if scribes carefully copied manuscripts and burned copies with errors in them, what evidence do we have textually that these scribes actually copied the texts correctly? In order to answer this question, we will have to look at the Dead Sea Scrolls as a test case.

Prior to 1948, some of the earliest complete manuscripts of various books of the Old Testament dated to around A.D. 900 to 1000. However, in 1947, some Bedouin shepherds were looking for some lost sheep in the hillsides surrounding the Dead Sea in Israel. One of the shepherds threw a rock into a distant cave and heard the sound of pottery shattering.

Little did he know that hurling a stone would uncover perhaps the greatest archeological discovery of modern times.1 What scholars discovered was not just one cave but eleven caves. Instead of a few manuscripts, scholars uncovered a library of writings from the Essene community including various books from the Old Testament, commentaries on Old Testament books, and other extra-Biblical literature.

Interestingly, these writings included parts of every single book of the Old Testament minus the Book of Esther. Perhaps the most interesting discovery was an almost complete Isaiah scroll. When scholars compared the Isaiah scroll to our earliest copies of Isaiah previous to then (A.D. 900 to 1000), they found that there were only about 13 textual variations. Regarding Isaiah 53, which predicts the suffering and death of Jesus, they only found one variation in the entire chapter that had any possible significance: putting "light" in Isaiah 53:11.

To be continued...
Re: Has The Old Testament Been Corrupted? by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:54pm On Nov 04, 2015
OLAADEGBU:


The Dead Sea Scrolls and the Age of the Old Testament Manuscripts

Even if scribes carefully copied manuscripts and burned copies with errors in them, what evidence do we have textually that these scribes actually copied the texts correctly? In order to answer this question, we will have to look at the Dead Sea Scrolls as a test case.

Prior to 1948, some of the earliest complete manuscripts of various books of the Old Testament dated to around A.D. 900 to 1000. However, in 1947, some Bedouin shepherds were looking for some lost sheep in the hillsides surrounding the Dead Sea in Israel. One of the shepherds threw a rock into a distant cave and heard the sound of pottery shattering.

Little did he know that hurling a stone would uncover perhaps the greatest archeological discovery of modern times.1 What scholars discovered was not just one cave but eleven caves. Instead of a few manuscripts, scholars uncovered a library of writings from the Essene community including various books from the Old Testament, commentaries on Old Testament books, and other extra-Biblical literature.

Interestingly, these writings included parts of every single book of the Old Testament minus the Book of Esther. Perhaps the most interesting discovery was an almost complete Isaiah scroll. When scholars compared the Isaiah scroll to our earliest copies of Isaiah previous to then (A.D. 900 to 1000), they found that there were only about 13 textual variations. Regarding Isaiah 53, which predicts the suffering and death of Jesus, they only found one variation in the entire chapter that had any possible significance: putting "light" in Isaiah 53:11.

To be continued...

Jesus on the Authority of the Old Testament:

Furthermore, Jesus affirmed the general authority (Mt. 4:4, 7, 10), doctrinal authority (Mt. 22:29), imperishability (Mt. 5:18), historical reliability (Mt. 12:40), scientific reliability (Mk. 13:19), truthfulness (Jn. 17:17), and the exact number of books that belonged in the Old Testament (Mt. 23:35, Lk. 24:47).2 Essentially Jesus affirmed the truthfulness and accuracy of the Old Testament in every way possible. Since we have a good idea of what the Old Testament was at the time of Jesus, Jesus affirmed the truthfulness of our Old Testament text that we have today.

To be continued...
Re: Has The Old Testament Been Corrupted? by OLAADEGBU(m): 6:12pm On Nov 05, 2015
OLAADEGBU:


Jesus on the Authority of the Old Testament:

Furthermore, Jesus affirmed the general authority (Mt. 4:4, 7, 10), doctrinal authority (Mt. 22:29), imperishability (Mt. 5:18), historical reliability (Mt. 12:40), scientific reliability (Mk. 13:19), truthfulness (Jn. 17:17), and the exact number of books that belonged in the Old Testament (Mt. 23:35, Lk. 24:47).2 Essentially Jesus affirmed the truthfulness and accuracy of the Old Testament in every way possible. Since we have a good idea of what the Old Testament was at the time of Jesus, Jesus affirmed the truthfulness of our Old Testament text that we have today.

To be continued...

Why trust Jesus?

Jesus' testimony is important due to His unique claims. Jesus based His teachings on the miracle of His resurrection (Mt. 12:39-40, Jn. 2:19-21). If Jesus rose from the dead, then His teachings are true. If He did not, then who cares what He said. Nevertheless, there is compelling historical evidence which suggests that Jesus indeed did rise from the dead including the historical fact that He was crucified, buried, the tomb was indeed empty, His subsequent resurrection appearances, the origin of the Christian faith, the transformation of the disciples from doubters to bold proclaimers, the early worship on Sunday by pious Jewish Christians, etc. All these basic historical facts deserve explanation. Since the alternative theories do not explain the above facts, Jesus' resurrection is the best explanation. Since Jesus rose from the dead, His testimony about the reliability and accuracy of the Old Testament can be believed.

Sources

Norman Geisler, How we got our Bible, DVD, available from International Legacy.
Re: Has The Old Testament Been Corrupted? by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:32pm On Feb 15, 2016
Scholar8200:


No, it has not been corrupted.

More grace to you, sir. smiley

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