i think i might have come to a conclusion that most nigerian developers hardly write node js apps, but looking from the perspective of writing in a single base code i.e Javascript front end and backend, i would like us to discuss the node frame works we use, and propably our challenges with them..


for me, i use kraken js which was built ontop of express, and uses dust js as a templating engine.....what of u?

We do but not the same way you do, I use it mostly for tasks and watchers not for web

pcguru1:
We do but not the same way you do, I use it mostly for tasks and watchers not for web

....thats cool, ever used it for desktop app using app js or atom shells?

sleepingdemon:
....thats cool, ever used it for desktop app using app js or atom shells?

Where i work it was considered, but no for now. But when the time comes we will

I love node.js

Built a desktop app with it. Use it to build backends. Use it for build steps for frontend.

It's an important part of my toolkit.

What about node do you want to talk about?

Metalzoa:
I love node.js

Built a desktop app with it. Use it to build backends. Use it for build steps for frontend.

It's an important part of my toolkit.

What about node do you want to talk about?

do u use express a lot or kraken? how easily do u deal with session authentication, passports?

sleepingdemon:
do u use express a lot or kraken? how easily do u deal with session authentication, passports?

Personally I prefer dealing directly with Express, but at work we use Sails.js.

Sessions .. I prefer stateless servers, so the session information is in a token. Preferrably a JWT.

pcguru1:



Where i work it was considered, but no for now. But when the time comes we will

ehen, let me dust my credentials and get ready for your company

Metalzoa:


Personally I prefer dealing directly with Express, but at work we use Sails.js.

Sessions .. I prefer stateless servers, so the session information is in a token. Preferrably a JWT.

talking about sails, can u mention any advantage u think it has over kraken, and then, dealing with express directly, it might be more tasking than with frameworks

Metalzoa:


Personally I prefer dealing directly with Express, but at work we use Sails.js.

Sessions .. I prefer stateless servers, so the session information is in a token. Preferrably a JWT.

and yes, please refer me the best host for node js apps

sleepingdemon:
talking about sails, can u mention any advantage u think it has over kraken, and then, dealing with express directly, it might be more tasking than with frameworks

I've never used Kraken and I'm not sure I'm fully sold on Sails. Can't defend or condemn either one.

I prefer dealing with a Express directly because I'm a really big fan of composition over convention. I put libraries together rather than lean on a framework

No idea who the best is but I host on heroku.

Metalzoa:


I've never used Kraken and I'm not sure I'm fully sold on Sails. Can't defend or condemn either one.

I prefer dealing with a Express directly because I'm a really big fan of composition over convention. I put libraries together rather than lean on a framework

No idea who the best is but I host on heroku.

just went through sails, and the mere fact that it uses ejs rather than dust for templating is attractive..meaning i get to write javascript like im writing php....

I love JavaScript and I fancy nodejs but unfortunately there are no shared server support that I know of, so I'm gonna stick with php for now

sleepingdemon:

just went through sails, and the mere fact that it uses ejs rather than dust for templating is attractive..meaning i get to write javascript like im writing php....

Ever tried using React?

I think trying to do the view layer of your front end without it isn't the wisest choice. It's not a template system but you should consider it for your app's view.

I really like react and I try to explain why it's a good idea. I feel I've failed in my attempts so far, but here's one of the more recent ones.

http://designbymobi.us/why-react-js/

Metalzoa:


Ever tried using React?

I think trying to do the view layer of your front end without it isn't the wisest choice. It's not a template system but you should consider it for your app's view.

I really like react and I try to explain why it's a good idea. I feel I've failed in my attempts so far, but here's one of the more recent ones.

http://designbymobi.us/why-react-js/

i guess ill be switching to sails, but i find thier conention a little wierd, mind if i get to contact u along side as i move....ill read up the article on react

Metalzoa:
I love node.js

Built a desktop app with it. Use it to build backends. Use it for build steps for frontend.

It's an important part of my toolkit.

What about node do you want to talk about?

installing express has been hell for me, did everything i know, i still could'nt, how did you installed express.

sleepingdemon:
i think i might have come to a conclusion that most nigerian developers hardly write node js apps

That's a cliche and very unprofessional of you to say, have nothing to say about Node cause i use it daily.

sleepingdemon:
i think i might have come to a conclusion that most nigerian developers hardly write node js apps

That's a cliche and very unprofessional of you to say, have nothing to say about Nodejs cause i use it daily.

thewebcraft:

That's a cliche and very unprofessional of you to say, have nothing to say about Nodejs cause i use it daily.

i made mention of most, not all, if we were to do a probability count, well hardly get 25% of sampled developers on that side, besides i could also be wrong....

sleepingdemon:
i made mention of most, not all, if we were to do a probability count, well hardly get 25% of sampled developers on that side, besides i could also be wrong....

maybe

Ucheernest:


installing express has been hell for me, did everything i know, i still could'nt, how did you installed express.

First step is to install Node, which comes with npm. I think its pretty easy to do even on Windows (which I use).

https://docs.npmjs.com/getting-started/installing-node

After that, create a new project with npm init

c:\nodejs\project-folder> npm init

Follow the prompts and you should have a file in the folder called package.json

Install Express in your new project with this command

c:\nodejs\project-folder> npm install --save express

Your project package.json should now have something like this:

"dependencies": {
  "express": "^4.13.3"
}

This means express is now available to be used in your project

A simple way to test if this is working is writing a small js file that calls in express in the project.
I named mine has_express.js and this is the content.

var express = require('express');

if(!express) throw new Error('EXPRESS NOT FOUND');
else console.log('EXPRESS IS ON MY SYSTEM');

Run this command.

c:\nodejs\project-folder> node has_express.js

You should see EXPRESS IS ON MY SYSTEM.

Hope this helps

Metalzoa:


First step is to install Node, which comes with npm. I think its pretty easy to do even on Windows (which I use).

https://docs.npmjs.com/getting-started/installing-node

After that, create a new project with npm init

c:\nodejs\project-folder> npm init

Follow the prompts and you should have a file in the folder called package.json

Install Express in your new project with this command

c:\nodejs\project-folder> npm install --save express

Your project package.json should now have something like this:

"dependencies": {
  "express": "^4.13.3"
}

This means express is now available to be used in your project

A simple way to test if this is working is writing a small js file that calls in express in the project.
I named mine has_express.js and this is the content.

var express = require('express');

if(!express) throw new Error('EXPRESS NOT FOUND');
else console.log('EXPRESS IS ON MY SYSTEM');

Run this command.

c:\nodejs\project-folder> node has_express.js

You should see EXPRESS IS ON MY SYSTEM.

Hope this helps

bro, i still got an error, i have got a question, does it require internet to install? cos am thinking that it might be my proxy issue.

Ucheernest:


bro, i still got an error, i have got a question, does it require internet to install? cos am thinking that it might be my proxy issue.

You need internet for the first time installing any package.

After that, the package is cached on your device so you'll be able to install it on multiple projects even with no internet.

But for the first install, you definitely need internet.

Metalzoa:


You need internet for the first time installing any package.

After that, the package is cached on your device so you'll be able to install it on multiple projects even with no internet.

But for the first install, you definitely need internet.

ok bro, and thank you very much.

^^^ Na wa o! See protocols upon protocols. You even have to manually install packages for each individual project. smh

JackOfAllTrades:
I love JavaScript and I fancy nodejs but unfortunately there are no shared server support that I know of, so I'm gonna stick with php for now

Is this still true?