italo:


1. We don't seek Marian apparitions...and don't seek for her to tell us any truths. We don't divine to conjure her spirit. It just happens when God wills it.

2. You're ignoring the fact that Adeboye and your other pastors are soothsayers and observers of dreams as found in the verses.

M0ron if God is against divination you think He would orchestrate the same?

Keep worshipping Devils

italo:


Necromancy is clearly not merely contact with the dead as you ignorantly said. But it involves divination and conjuring of spirits of the dead to know truth from them

We Catholics don't do that.

We like Jesus speak to our living brothers and sisters. And it's not only God who can have contact with the saints as you foolishly think.

Heb 12 22But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to innumerable angels in festal gathering, 23 and to the assembly of the firstborn who are enrolled in heaven, and to God the judge of all, and to the spirits of the righteous made perfect, 24 and to Jesus, the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood that speaks a better word than the blood of Abel.

When we pray, we have access to all these.

M0ron, how does Hebrews teach necromancy?

Scholar8200:

..., Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.
Mark7:9

keep fooling yourself

vooks:

Since man can forgive sins, how many have you forgiven and given eternal life?

Doesn't matter.

Man can forgive sins according to John 20:23. Period!

vooks:

You can't reach the dead. That's the essence of Luke 16 parable. What you contact are demons

We reach the living saints according to Heb 12:22-24

vooks:

God encouraged necromancy? What god?

It's you that said the bold.

vooks:

M0ron if God is against divination you think He would orchestrate the same?

Keep worshipping Devils

Means reaching living saints is not divination.

vooks:


M0ron, how does Hebrews teach necromancy?

Heb 12 22But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to innumerable angels in festal gathering, 23 and to the assembly of the firstborn who are enrolled in heaven, and to God the judge of all, and to the spirits of the righteous made perfect, 24 and to Jesus, the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood that speaks a better word than the blood of Abel.

We Catholics reach the living saints as encouraged by God himself in the verses above.

If you don't like it, go and fight God.

italo:
Heb 12 22But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to innumerable angels in festal gathering, 23 and to the assembly of the firstborn who are enrolled in heaven, and to God the judge of all, and to the spirits of the righteous made perfect, 24 and to Jesus, the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood that speaks a better word than the blood of Abel.

We Catholics reach the living saints as encouraged by God himself in the verses above.

If you don't like it, go and fight God.

Which part mentions dead men here?

Firstborn enrolled in heaven equals to saints in heaven? You are a m0ron

Luke 10:20King James Version (KJV)
20 Notwithstanding in this rejoice not, that the spirits are subject unto you; but rather rejoice, because your names are written in heaven.

Philippians 4:3King James Version (KJV)
3 And I intreat thee also, true yokefellow, help those women which laboured with me in the gospel, with Clement also, and with other my fellowlabourers, whose names are in the book of life.


Is your name written in heaven italo?

vooks:


Which part mentions dead men here?

Firstborn enrolled in heaven equals to saints in heaven? You are a m0ron

Luke 10:20King James Version (KJV)
20 Notwithstanding in this rejoice not, that the spirits are subject unto you; but rather rejoice, because your names are written in heaven.

Is your name written in heaven italo?

Heb 12 22But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to innumerable angels in festal gathering, 23 and to the assembly of the firstborn who are enrolled in heaven, and to God the judge of all, and to the spirits of the righteous made perfect, 24 and to Jesus, the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood that speaks a better word than the blood of Abel.


No the first born enrolled in heaven are not saints in heaven...and the spirits of the just men made perfect too are not the saints in heaven.

They are demons in hell...according to you hypocritical pentecostal brain.

italo:



Heb 12 22But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to innumerable angels in festal gathering, 23 and to the assembly of the firstborn who are enrolled in heaven, and to God the judge of all, [b]and to the spirits of the righteous made perfect, [/b]24 and to Jesus, the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood that speaks a better word than the blood of Abel.


No the first born enrolled in heaven are not saints in heaven...and the spirits of the just men made perfect too are not the saints in heaven.

They are demons in hell...according to you hypocritical pentecostal brain.

Nicompoop,
WHEN are spirits of men made just?

vooks:


Which part mentions dead men here?

Firstborn enrolled in heaven equals to saints in heaven? You are a m0ron

Luke 10:20King James Version (KJV)
20 Notwithstanding in this rejoice not, that the spirits are subject unto you; but rather rejoice, because your names are written in heaven.

Philippians 4:3King James Version (KJV)
3 And I intreat thee also, true yokefellow, help those women which laboured with me in the gospel, with Clement also, and with other my fellowlabourers, whose names are in the book of life.


Is your name written in heaven italo?

God, angels and Jesus mentioned in the verses are also not in heaven abi...

They are in hell...as you want them to be.

Yet you call people fools.

vooks:


Nicompoop,
WHEN are spirits of men made just?

Made perfect, you mean?

When they get to hell...as you want it to be...

Yet you call others fools

italo:


Made perfect, you mean?

When they get to hell...as you want it to be...

Yet you call others fools

Buffoon, when you come to Christ and your sins are washed away not when you die

italo:


Means reaching living saints is not divination.

You really love your foolishness. Tell me. Samuel who appeared to Saul, was he 'living saint'?

vooks:

Buffoon, when you come to Christ and your sins are washed away not when you die

So now that you are perfect, you're in Mount Zion, the heavenly Jerusalem abi?

Lol

italo:


So now that you are perfect, you're in Mount Zion, the heavenly Jerusalem abi?

Lol

Please read the last part of that verse. Is there blood in heaven?

vooks:

You really love your foolishness. Tell me. Samuel who appeared to Saul, was he 'living saint'?

You haven't told me if Adeboye and you are evil for being soothsayers and dream observers...

You're still dodging that.

italo:


You haven't told me if Adeboye and you are evil for being soothsayers and dream observers...

You're still dodging that.

You should first provide evidence so we can examine it. But satanists like their father are full of lies so I know this is a tall order

Worshipping demons will land you in hell son. Repent

vooks:


Please read the last part of that verse. Is there blood in heaven?

Ah! No! The blood in the verse below is in hell.

Heb9:12 - Neither by the blood of goats, or of calves, but by his own blood, entered once into the holies, having obtained eternal redemption.

italo:


Ah! No! The blood in the verse below is in hell.

Heb9:12 - Neither by the blood of goats, or of calves, but by his own blood, entered once into the holies, having obtained eternal redemption.

Jesus took his blood to heaven, right?

And more to the point, which of these verses tell you Necromancy is now legalized ?

vooks:


You should first provide evidence so we can examine it. But satanists like their father are full of lies so I know this is a tall order

Worshipping demons will land you in hell son. Repent

https://www.naij.com/352163-pastor-enoch-adeboye-reveals-2015-prophecies.html

So is he and other pentecostals evil for being soothsayers?

Dodge again!

Here are Cathlics invoking demons to possess them

Consecration to Our Lady by Pope John Paul II
Immaculate Conception, Mary my Mother
Live in me, act in me.
Speak in and through me.
Think your thoughts in my mind.
Love through my heart.
Give me your dispositions and feelings.
Teach, lead and guide me to Jesus.
Correct and enlighten and expand my thoughts and behaviour.
Possess my soul and take over my entire personality and life.
Replace it with yourself.
Incline me to constant adoration and thanksgiving.
Pray in and through me.
Let me live in you and keep me in this union always. Amen.

italo:


https://www.naij.com/352163-pastor-enoch-adeboye-reveals-2015-prophecies.html

So is he and other pentecostals evil for being soothsayers?

Dodge again!

There is a gift of prophecy you bloody idiot. Why are you digressing? Back to Carholic satanism

vooks:

Jesus took his blood to heaven, right?

No. He took it to your bedroom.

Heb12:22-24 shoes that we access God, his city, the heavenly Jerusalem, Jesus, angels,saints.

If you don't like it, go and fight God.

vooks:

And more to the point, which of these verses tell you Necromancy is now legalized ?

You said the bold.

vooks:


There is a gift of prophecy you bloody idiot. Why are you digressing? Back to Carholic satanism

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There is also communication with saints.

Why are you digressing...back to pentecostal condemning and copying catholics.

italo:

No. He took it to your bedroom.

Heb12:22-24 shoes that we access God, his city, the heavenly Jerusalem, Jesus, angels,saints.

If you don't like it, go and fight God.


You said the bold.

When did Jesus take his blood to heaven?

Am asking according to Catholicism, when did God abrogate his laws on necromancy?

Vooks and Italo,

What are you doing?

italo:
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There is also communication with saints.

Why are you digressing...back to pentecostal condemning and copying catholics.

Ret@rd
How is prophecy necromancy?
Remember Adeboye never claimed to have talked to the dead unlike your demon possessed religion condones

italo, why do you bury your dead seeing they are living saints?

vooks:
Here are Cathlics invoking demons to possess them

Consecration to Our Lady by Pope John Paul II
Immaculate Conception, Mary my Mother
Live in me, act in me.
Speak in and through me.
Think your thoughts in my mind.
Love through my heart.
Give me your dispositions and feelings.
Teach, lead and guide me to Jesus.
Correct and enlighten and expand my thoughts and behaviour.
Possess my soul and take over my entire personality and life.
Replace it with yourself.
Incline me to constant adoration and thanksgiving.
Pray in and through me.
Let me live in you and keep me in this union always. Amen.

Here are pentecostals eating snakes demons.

Same thing you complain about.

vooks:
italo, why do you bury your dead seeing they are living saints?

But you also called them living saints. Why do you bury them?