italo:


Here are pentecostals eating snakes demons.

Same thing you complain about.

Those are deluded.
Is a Catholic who prays to be possessed by Virgin Mary equally deluded?

This prayer was invented by your infallible pope. Do you pray it?

Are you possessed by the Virgin as you type italo?

Who is typing here, is it italo or Virgin Mary?

vooks:


When did Jesus take his blood to heaven?

In Hebrew 9:12.

vooks:

Am asking according to Catholicism, when did God abrogate his laws on necromancy?

You said the bold so tell us when.

italo:


But you also called them living saints. Why do you bury them?

Because they are in EVERY way as alive as you are you fool. These are living Christians not dead men. You are the one who claimed they are dead men in heaven WITHOUT any basis for that.

italo:



In Hebrew 9:12.

WHEN was that?

You said the bold so tell us when.

He has not. So I ask, on what basis do you worship Devils and beg them to possess you and basically get guidance from them?

vooks:

Ret@rd
How is prophecy necromancy?
Remember Adeboye never claimed to have talked to the dead unlike your demon possessed religion condones

We talk to living saints, like Jesus.

italo:


We talk to living saints, like Jesus.

Jesus is God and you are not God. Do you also receive worship from men as Jesus did?

vooks:

Because they are in EVERY way as alive as you are you fool. These are living Christians not dead men. You are the one who claimed they are dead men in heaven WITHOUT any basis for that.

Where did I say so?

italo:


Where did I say so?

You quoted that verse to justify praying to dead men so obviously you must have been brainwashed to read dead men there. Where are dead men in this verse?

vooks:


Jesus is God and you are not God. Do you also receive worship from men as Jesus did?

Jesus never broke a commandment.

If he talked to saints, it can't be a sin.

vooks:

WHEN was that?



He has not. So I ask, on what basis do you worship Devils and beg them to possess you and basically get guidance from them?

You said the bold.

Ask the writer of Heb 9:12 when. I'm not the writer.

italo:


Jesus never broke a commandment.

If he talked to saints, it can't be a sin.

He received worship of men so by your logic,

It is equally not a sin to receive worship. Can I worship you italo?

vooks:


You quoted that verse to justify praying to dead men so obviously you must have been brainwashed to read dead men there. Where are dead men in this verse?

I didn't. You're hallucinating again.

italo:


You said the bold.

Ask the writer of Heb 9:12 when. I'm not the writer.

Do you pray to Virgin Mary to possess you?

italo:


I didn't. You're hallucinating again.

Do you pray to Virgin Mary to possess you?

vooks:

He received worship of men so by your logic,

It is equally not a sin to receive worship. Can I worship you italo?

Where did Jesus receive worship on earth?

vooks:


Do you pray to Virgin Mary to possess you?

Did you eat a snake or drink anointed milk from your pastors penis?

italo:


Where did Jesus receive worship on earth?

Luke 24:52King James Version (KJV)

52 And they worshipped him, and returned to Jerusalem with great joy:

Do you think this happened on Mars or Uranus?

italo:


Did you eat a snake or drink anointed milk from your pastors penis?

I don't. There are some people who eat snakes but personally that is not my thing. It is sin to suck a man's penis.

I notice you won't admit to this
Do you pray for Virgin Mary to possess you?

italo, do you make this prayer?

Consecration to Our Lady by Pope John Paul II
Immaculate Conception, Mary my Mother
Live in me, act in me.
Speak in and through me.
Think your thoughts in my mind.
Love through my heart.
Give me your dispositions and feelings.
Teach, lead and guide me to Jesus.
Correct and enlighten and expand my thoughts and behaviour.
Possess my soul and take over my entire personality and life.
Replace it with yourself.
Incline me to constant adoration and thanksgiving.
Pray in and through me.
Let me live in you and keep me in this union always. Amen.

italo
Consecration to Our Lady by Pope John Paul II
Immaculate Conception, Mary my Mother
Live in me, act in me.
Speak in and through me.
Think your thoughts in my mind.
Love through my heart.
Give me your dispositions and feelings.
Teach, lead and guide me to Jesus.
Correct and enlighten and expand my thoughts and behaviour.
Possess my soul and take over my entire personality and life.
Replace it with yourself.
Incline me to constant adoration and thanksgiving.
Pray in and through me.
Let me live in you and keep me in this union always. Amen.


Here is a 'good' video on how to channel a spirit guide

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtG3q2imKGg

vooks:


Luke 24:52King James Version (KJV)

52 And they worshipped him, and returned to Jerusalem with great joy:

Do you think this happened on Mars or Uranus?

Moses also worshipped(shakah) his father-in-law in Ex18:7...so men can also receive worship.

vooks:


I don't. There are some people who eat snakes but personally that is not my thing. It is sin to suck a man's penis.

I notice you won't admit to this
Do you pray for Virgin Mary to possess you?

Is Adeboye a soothsayer?

Do pentecostals practise the same things they condemn catholics for?

E.g calling pastors daddy, while condemning Rev. Father, declaring Awolowo in heaven while condemning Pope for declaring John Paul in heaven, condemning changing of wine to blood if Jesus while claiming to changing petrol to juice, condemning 10 hail marys as vain repetitions while praying "catch fire" 100 times, and many more.

italo:


Is Adeboye a soothsayer?

Do pentecostals practise the same things they condemn catholics for?

E.g calling pastors daddy, while condemning Rev. Father, declaring Awolowo in heaven while condemning Pope for declaring John Paul in heaven, condemning changing of wine to blood if Jesus while claiming to changing petrol to juice, condemning 10 hail marys as vain repetitions while praying "catch fire" 100 times, and many more.

You have ignored a simple question

DO YOU PRAY TO MARY TO POSSESS TOU AS TAUGHT BY POPE JOHN PAUL II?

italo:


Moses also worshipped(shakah) his father-in-law in Ex18:7...so men can also receive worship.

Exodus 18:7 (ESV)
7 Moses went out to meet his father-in-law and bowed down and kissed him. And they asked each other of their welfare and went into the tent
Where is worship here?

You asked for proof that Jesus was worshipped on earth and I have you. What was your point?

Again, Jesus was and is worshipped as God. Since he was worshipped on earth, do you have any objection to the world worshipping you italo?

When he was born, Angels worshipped him. Do you think you are worthy of worship just like Jeaus Christ italo?

I don't what hypothetical answers, 'men can.....' I need to hear you saying you are worthy of worship and you forgive sins and give men eternal life just as Jesis Christ

vooks:


You have ignored a simple question

DO YOU PRAY TO MARY TO POSSESS TOU AS TAUGHT BY POPE JOHN PAUL II?

My question is more relevant to the topic and has been waiting for answer for a longer time.

Is Adeboye a soothsayer?

Do pentecostals practise the same things they condemn catholics for?

E.g calling pastors daddy, while condemning Rev. Father, declaring Awolowo in heaven while condemning Pope for declaring John Paul in heaven, condemning changing of wine to blood if Jesus while claiming to changing petrol to juice, condemning 10 hail marys as vain repetitions while praying "catch fire" 100 times, and many more.

vooks:


Exodus 18:7 (ESV)
7 Moses went out to meet his father-in-law and bowed down and kissed him. And they asked each other of their welfare and went into the tent
Where is worship here?

You asked for proof that Jesus was worshipped on earth and I have you. What was your point?

Again, Jesus was and is worshipped as God. Since he was worshipped on earth, do you have any objection to the world worshipping you italo?

When he was born, Angels worshipped him. Do you think you are worthy of worship just like Jeaus Christ italo?

The bible wasn't written in English. The Hebrew word (shakah) used in that verse was "worship."

The bible didn't say Jesus was worshipped as God.

I have no objection, if you want to worship me...

Afterall, Moses worshipped his Father-in-law.

italo:


My question is more relevant to the topic and has been waiting for answer for a longer time.

Is Adeboye a soothsayer?

No

Do[b] pentecostals practise the same things they condemn catholics for?[/b]

Depends on what

E.g calling pastors daddy, while condemning Rev. Father,

I don't know if Pentecostals condemn Catholics for this

declaring Awolowo in heaven while condemning Pope for declaring John Paul in heaven,

In the satanic Catholicism, ONLY the pope reserves he right to believe and declare somebody is in heaven. Different stuff

condemning changing of wine to blood if Jesus while claiming to changing petrol to juice,

There was just one deluded church where the man claimed to change petrol to juice. This is a fringe sect and not representative. On the other hand, Catholics are cannibals and they claim to turn the elements into meat and blood which they then eat raw

condemning 10 hail marys as vain repetitions while praying "catch fire" 100 times, and many more.

Vain repetitious prayers are vain regardless of who doe it.


DO TOU PRAY TO THE VIRGIN TO POSSESS YOU AS TAUGHT BY PAUL?

Vooks U dey fall my hands here oo. Abeg leave Italo alone. This thing is not by power or might. If you don't have the Spirit of God, U can't see the truth even it is so glarring. Pls stop this war of words.

italo:


The bible wasn't written in English. The Hebrew word (shakah) used in that verse was "worship."

The bible didn't say Jesus was worshipped as God.

I have no objection, if you want to worship me...

Afterall, Moses worshipped his Father-in-law.

But in the NEW TESTAMENT, the exact Greek word used there is used of worshipping God so your argument is moot. Jesus received the exact same WORSHIP God received.

And there is no record of anybody else on New Testament who was worshipped apart from Jesus and of course God. Show me anybody who received worship apart from Jesus in the New Testament

Anas09:
Vooks U dey fall my hands here oo. Abeg leave Italo alone. This thing is not by power or might. If you don't have the Spirit of God, U can't see the truth even it is so glarring. Pls stop this war of words.

With these wise words, I bow out of this thread

vooks:


But in the NEW TESTAMENT, the exact Greek word used there is used of worshipping God so your argument is moot. Jesus received the exact same WORSHIP God received.

And there is no record of anybody else on New Testament who was worshipped apart from Jesus and of course God. Show me anybody who received worship apart from Jesus in the New Testament

The same Greek word "proskuneo" was used in Matt18:26 by the slave for his master.

Was the master God?

Also shachah is the same Hebrew word used for both worship of God and worship of man in the OT.

Scriptural illiterate.

Anas09:
Vooks U dey fall my hands here oo. Abeg leave Italo alone. This thing is not by power or might. If you don't have the Spirit of God, U can't see the truth even it is so glarring. Pls stop this war of words.

Yes. And your truth is that something is evil when Catholics do it but when pentecostals copy it, it becomes good.