MorrowCaligari:



Thats why your yoruba brothers in Kwara hate to be associated with you. thats why you were the easiest people to enslave, maybe its because you were weak, or just utter buffoonery. thats why until date, you just dont understand how these things are done. lok at you, proud that your people have been plummeted and sold all over the globe....smh.

btw, arabs never enslaved any hausas, hausas you find in saudi today migrated there, no records of any such events taking place.

OPCNAIRALAND:


There are many things you dont know about your culture. It proves my point that your enslavement was total! Nothing was left of your culture.

You need to go and ask your elders about their mythical Queen and the python and what it means in Daura antiquity. Instead of reading Arabic book that preaches jihad and 73 virgins everyday, start reading books written to teach you your historical past.

There are no virgins waiting for you in heaven. They arr all here on earth.

MorrowCaligari:



Says someone who comes from the most enslaved race in the world. If a dna test shows that 80-85 % of slaves in the US are either Igbo or Yoruba, my guess is yoruba's outnumber Igbos, but where are the Hausas you claimed to sell? Looool! You are a clown! Songhais never took hausa slaves btw, but the hausas states were one of the major exporters of slaves back then, so you and your inferior minions must have suffered, it's nothing to be proud of, but that's just the truth. We chained your people, and sold them like we'd sell cows or horses, cause back then to us, there's no difference.

OPCNAIRALAND:


Tell me a people in the history of humanity that were never in one stage of their history enslaved by another.

Im waiting for your response.

macof:
Lol. But when we start listing African Americans with yoruba ancestry. .people on this forum would attack saying yorubas were of little numbers. .

While the truth is, Yoruba were unfortunately taken as slaves by Dahomeans and sold to Europeans to be taken to the Americas


You still can't match the horrors the Alaafin's Eso snd Ibadan gave you northerners. .
Hausa and fulani still make up a large number of slaves that arrived in the US and other countries

MorrowCaligari:



ahuuut up you blind foool! the python guarded a well in daura, until it was killed by the so called bayajidda, we never worshipped the python, nor held it in any high esteem, go back to school!

please, where did you get this story of 73 virgins from? Quran or hadith?


i have to say, all this is pretty rich coming from a sh.itstain.

OPCNAIRALAND:


Lesson on African Culture.
Pay atteention!
Animals, birds, reptiles and so on are central theme in African customs and anthropology. Anywhere they are mentioned, they serve as object of veneration. Particularly when mentioned in connection with a royalty. It serves to portray heroism that the Queen confronted a super power and slayed it. Its similar to the slaying of the dragon or the eagle or a fierce beast.

In all cases in Africa where this is true, the animal itself gains prominence and attains followership.

Hausa is African. So to tell us the custombof Africa was not practiced in Hausaland would expose your lack of historical and customary perspective; either that or again, your subjugation and rnslavement was total that nothing of your cjlture was preserved. In either case, both outcomes attrst to what i have told you in past six posts.

OPCNAIRALAND:


There are many things you dont know about your culture. It proves my point that your enslavement was total! Nothing was left of your culture.

You need to go and ask your elders about their mythical Queen and the python and what it means in Daura antiquity. Instead of reading Arabic book that preaches jihad and 73 virgins everyday, start reading books written to teach you your historical past.

There are no virgins waiting for you in heaven. They arr all here on earth.

MorrowCaligari:


I'm well versed in ancient hausa religion. Worship of animals was never practiced in Hausaland. Again just because some Africans did it doesn't mean all Africans did. That's just stu.pid. The serpent was slayed to gain access to the well, that was it.

OPCNAIRALAND:

Now, since you have failed inspite of repeated invitation to bring your history and greatness into focus for review...i say whoever opened this thread was not a friend of the Hausa north. They meant to ridicule you on the internet.

OPCNAIRALAND:


Why was your Queen the one slaying python if the whole purpose was to access well, was she fetching water at the well, why is it a woman, Queen for that matter....slaying reptile, were there no men or was this act meant to portay greatness?

If i follow your argument so far, Hausa was the exception to everythinf else that other Africans experienced.....whether slavery or customsand culture....but look at how an ordinary muslem cleric called dan Fodio routed entire Hausaland and decapitated your kings and sold your people to the Arabs.

Dan Fodio attacked Kanuri and thr repelled him. He went to Nupe and wiped them out but today even the Nupe people have their own traditional customs and beliefs separate from Islam. He went to Borgu and wiped them out and even the Borgu culture exist till today and in parallel with Islam.

Where is Hausa culture and your seven states?

Yoruba still has its seven states till today, never uprooted by anybody and never changed dynastic chain.

How can you compare a society completely wiped out and.decapitated with an Empire that wipes others out?

You have no sense.

Now, since you have failed inspite of repeated invitation to bring your history and greatness into focus for review...i say whoever opened this thread was not a friend of the Hausa north. They meant to ridicule you on the internet.

OPCNAIRALAND:


Why was your Queen the one slaying python if the whole purpose was to access well, was she fetching water at the well, why is it a woman, Queen for that matter....slaying reptile, were there no men or was this act meant to portay greatness?

If i follow your argument so far, Hausa was the exception to everythinf else that other Africans experienced.....whether slavery or customsand culture....but look at how an ordinary muslem cleric called dan Fodio routed entire Hausaland and decapitated your kings and sold your people to the Arabs.

Dan Fodio attacked Kanuri and thr repelled him. He went to Nupe and wiped them out but today even the Nupe people have their own traditional customs and beliefs separate from Islam. He went to Borgu and wiped them out and even the Borgu culture exist till today and in parallel with Islam.

Where is Hausa culture and your seven states?

Yoruba still has its seven states till today, never uprooted by anybody and never changed dynastic chain.

How can you compare a society completely wiped out and.decapitated with an Empire that wipes others out?

You have no sense.

Now, since you have failed inspite of repeated invitation to bring your history and greatness into focus for review...i say whoever opened this thread was not a friend of the Hausa north. They meant to ridicule you on the internet.

scholes0:


loool.....
Ask them to show you any world renowned art works and Philosophy of Hausa origin.

MorrowCaligari:



Our unique tubali architecture speaks for itself, if sculpting is what you're talking about then it's against our religion. We had an organised writing script, we could read and write when your people didn't even know what a book was. There are a lot of Hausa works of literature if only you weren't too stu.pid comment without checking.

scholes0:


You didn't have any organized writing script, the Arabs introduced Arabic to you.
And what is Tubuli lol, every group in Africa have their way of building things, the question is.... is it awe inspiring enough to garner international reputation .....

So, if your religion is against sculpting, where are the ones you sculpted in your pre-Islamic lives

MorrowCaligari:
the nok art has been credited to hausas by most, though i dont want it.

hausa accepted islam early in their civilization, the first recorded islamic jihad fought in subsaharan Africa was fought by the hausa king of kano Ali yaji dan tsamiya, the battle of santolo.

The hausa tubali architecture is unique, it is also worthy of note that the first multi story building in africa was built by hausas, the gobarau minaret, what about the gidan rumfa? if you want to see more about the beauty of tubali, google it. what was your architecture called? what did it look like? a rat hole? bad joke...

just accept that you were primitive backwards people and if it wasnt for the brits youd still be the same , thank your british slave masters for having mercy on you,. and the ajami script, thoughusing arabic alphabets was used to record hausa not arabic. and it had unique alphabets and vowels of its own.

MorrowCaligari:



I have never denied that, you guys are truly professional slaves. one would argue that slavery is all youre good for.


And where is the evidence to support this socalled large number of hausa or fulani slaves? hausa states even though never united never sold each other, it was the sort of situation where i can punish my brother but if you touch him i will beat the living sh.it out of you, ask the Songhais what kebbi did to them, incase you didnt know, the songhais won kano and katsina in war and forced the king of kano to marry the daughter of their king, shortly after that, Kebbi, decimated them.

what made things worse for you is that you were dis organized ans so close to the sea, they just have to pack you up like sardines and off you went.

scholes0:


Lies...... As at the time of Nok art there was nothing like Hausa people, stop fooling yourself, not to mention that the archaeological sites of Nok are located in Central Nigeria. Or maybe you don't know the real boundaries of our territory.
Nok art is just plain crude art that gets its recognition not from the genius behind it, but for it's age.




http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/hd/nok/hd_nok.htm

Another lie.
The earliest Jihads in West Africa are the Almoravid raids into Mali and Senegal conquering in the name of Islam, not some battle of santolo.
Infact, the Fulani established Tarur islamic in the Senegal river valley predates anything Islamic you have in Hausaland. Not to mention that as at the time of the earliest Hausa converts, only a tiny proportion of the ruling class were muslim, the majority of the population masses were still practicing their Hausa traditional religions. And they didn't build anything remarkable of their own doing.

Good Lord, why do you love Lying so Much.... It isn;t even the oldest in West Africa, talk less of Africa.
The timbuktu mosque predates it, and so do many other awesome taller structures in Africa such as Great Zimbabwe.
And there is nothing unique about Rubali....lol, it is a subset of the general type of building that is common in the Sudan savannah Zone, even Ivory Coast and Ghana have similar structures within their countries. such as the gur buildings of Larabanga and bolgatanga.
Like I said, every African group have their ways of building based on their lifestyles, you build urs based on your climate and I built mine based on mine.

Just accept the fact that Hausa people were a backward millet growing people who worshipped ancestral spirits before Arab traders saw their pity and saved their sorry asses from shamanism.

Ajami uses the ARABIC script not the Hausa script for a reason, Olodo.

Everything that would have made you unique have been more or less wiped out..

MorrowCaligari:



Our unique tubali architecture speaks for itself, if sculpting is what you're talking about then it's against our religion. We had an organised writing script, we could read and write when your people didn't even know what a book was. There are a lot of Hausa works of literature if only you weren't too stu.pid comment without checking.

macof:


says the northern mofo whose people were castrated by arabs on the long road through the Sahara.

Not to forget how Oyo and Songhai sold you off to Europeans on a regular basis

The senegambian chores were littering with swollen eyed fulani mofos ready to be taken as slaves

MorrowCaligari:



the nok art has been credited to hausas by most, though i dont want it. hausa accepted islam early in their civilization, the first recorded islamic jihad fought in subsaharan Africa was fought by the hausa king of kano Ali yaji dan tsamiya, the battle of santolo.

The hausa tubali architecture is unique, it is also worthy of note that the first multi story building in africa was built by hausas, the gobarau minaret, what about the gidan rumfa? if you want to see more about the beauty of tubali, google it. what was your architecture called? what did it look like? a rat hole? bad joke...


just accpt that you were primitive backwards people and if it wasnt for the brits youd still be the same , thank your british slave masters for having mercy on you,.

and the ajami script, thoughusing arabic alphabets was used to record hausa not arabic. and it had unique alphabets and vowels of its own.

macof:


organised? Borrowed script from the arabs who picked you up from slave markets? All the way to sudan. .Hausa slaves everywhere

Damn! Ur kind are the most enslaved in all of africa

macof:



Dude, all ur so called achievements in the face of a potential wipe out of your culture is nothing. You accepted islam as you accepted the arabs as ur masters. Not to forget that your folks were also sold out to the Americas.
Ur history is packed with slavery. .both mentally and physically

MorrowCaligari:


hey, dont blame me, blame the historians, i dont even want it.





the almoravids werent a subsaharan civilization dumb a.ss!!!! also, what is the tarur islamic? it wasnt an islamic jihad dumbo! im not saying we adopted islam first, i can agree that the songhais and kanuris did, but the first jihad in subsahran africa was fought by hausas!!! stop exposing your stupidity!




the timbuktu mosque wasnt a multi story building dweeb! you need to stop drinking the haterade and bow down to your superiors! the gobarau minaret is accepted as the first multi story building in west africa by all! go lick your putrid wounds somewhere. one would wonder while all of this was going on where your worthless race was....





millet was never our speciality, but exporting your worthless people as slaves, i agree.
and what script were you using? looool!
one question none of you dweebs can answer! give me a bloody example!!!! plonker!

scholes0:


Usman dan fodio described Hausa women as shameless women who bared their breasts out in the Open and wore little clothing....lol
Who told You Almoravids are a SS African civilization? They are berbers from North Africa, Ode. en..... lol

Either you want nok or not, it was NEVER yours to begin with....lol
So Gobarau is no more he first in Africa, it is now est Africa....
If this isn't multi storey , then I don't know what it is....

I think you are suffering from stupidity.... Go and read about Hausa slaves in the New world.... you lots suffered on two fronts, being sold as slaves into the Arab world, and beng sold as slaves into the new world (Americas).....chaaai ..... only Awusa.

Hahahaha, at first you talked about Hausas having an organized script, until I told you that you had NOTHING before Arab exposure....Lmao

Even today, you are still Nothing compared to Yorubas.... And that is In all spheres of life.

MorrowCaligari:

now youre just being stuuupid and reckless! such an event never happened! even dan fodio wore hausa clothing and im sure his wife dressed like hausa women, thats why he was comfortable promoting eductaion of women!



tell that to the historians, i dont want it!


Really? again you cant provide any evidence, but theres countless evidence of yoruba slaves all over the world, the rate at which yorubas were enslaved is legendary!!!!

.....
really? im still wondering where you guys were during all this , the ability to convert the arabic script and use it as ours for our language is an achievement itself. you sure as hell couldnt!

loool! im sure were not! believe that at your own peril.

scholes0:


As at ad 700, shortly after the rise of Islam Itself,

Yorubas were already making master pieces of Art, while your people were busy doing God knows what .... We entered the atlantic slave trade because of our coastal location near the Mid Atlantic, Nothing more.

Even the Fulanis in Guinea and Senegal were sold in the Atlantic slave trade in great numbers, which goes to show that it more of a function of location.

Even primitive Pygmies were never sold as slaves, because of their location in the congo forest.

Slaves to Whites, Slaves to Arabs and Finally, slaves to Fulanis..... describes the contemporary Hausa man perfectly well

MorrowCaligari:



huh! i wonder what this masterpieces art were? maybe you mean carving dolls! maybe carving dolls naked makes you civilized??

you entered the atlantic slave trade because you were a worthless race of primitive good for nothings, best put to use as slaves.



sooo? what do you mean even? until contact with hausas, fulanis werent an organised state, they were a nomadic tribe then.


lieeees! the pygmies were enslaved! there are well known stories of pygmies being enslaved! i still think theyre more civilized than you though!


how are we slaves to whites when they never enslaved us? how are we slaves to arabs when they never enslaved us? slaves to fulanis? now that is just a desperate joke

scholes0:


Yes basically everybody enslaved you....
Read about hausa slaves in the Americas.....

Where are the descendants of pygmies in the new world or Arab world.... what is the average height of their offspring...lol.... stupied perso

Read for yourself, Silly thing....

The slaves sold by Oyo were from four different sources: 1) native criminals, who were not so numerous, 2) war captives, who were the majority 3) slaves given in tribute by vassal states, such as Dahomey, who were not so many, and 4) slaves bought from Nupe, Borgu and even the Hausa states and Borno, especially in the late 18th century. Adams (1786-1800) refers to the large numbers of Hausa slaves for sale at Porto Novo

LOL, Hausas are just a pathetic race in general.... contributing nothing to both modern and ancient huanity.

cc: Macof, come see some of our slaves, awon Eru Hausa.