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Shocking: 25 Year Old Yoruba Girl Explains Why She Became A White Nationalist by makten: 4:17pm On Dec 31, 2015
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Why I changed and what it means for me.
My heart raced at the sight of the long sticks the three angry men were brandishing. I futilely asked my mother what was going on, as our party inside the car spoke in panicked Yoruba with the group outside. It was my first visit to Nigeria. My mother, uncle, grandmother and I were driving to a village hours away from Lagos when three men stepped into the middle of the road. We had to screech to a halt to avoid hitting them. To this day, I don’t know what those men wanted, but given that, according to the UN’s 2010 figures, 61 percent of the population lives on less than a dollar a day, I’d bet they wanted money–or the car.

From the moment I set foot in Nigeria, it was easy to see why my parents had left. My mother and I had to pay bribes to pass safely through the airport. Beggars walked around outside the airport asking travelers for money. It was not uncommon to see people squatting on the side of the road defecating. The gash on my uncle’s head corroborated his story about being robbed and pistol whipped. A billboard in Lagos read in pigeon English, “AIDS. No dey show da face.” (Translation: You can’t tell a person has AIDS by looking at them.)

I was born in 1990 in the United States, about a year after my parents arrived. They brought with them a couple of suitcases, my older brother, and big dreams for the future. In less than 25 years, they have managed to establish a medical practice and build a home for their six-person family. Their hard work knows no limits, but their tolerance and understanding do. They cannot comprehend how their first-generation American daughter became a race realist.

My views are no different from the average AR reader. I accept that the cause of the one-standard-deviation difference in the average IQ scores of blacks and whites is primarily genetic. I am convinced that blacks tend to have different dispositions from whites and East Asians–also for genetic reasons. And most importantly, I believe that all people have the right to associate with whomever they please, and that given this option most will choose their own race.

I did not come to these conclusions overnight. Initially, I believed what I was taught by my parents and teachers: Sub-Saharan Africa is poor because of centuries of exploitation, and black Americans lag behind white Americans because of slavery and segregation. My belief in the egalitarian vision was based on a reluctance to accept that I am of inferior stock.

In high school, I knew very little about Richard Hernstein and Charles Murray’s The Bell Curve, but when a teacher said the book was biased, I accepted that assertion without questioning it. I was relieved to learn of the existence of culture-fair IQ tests, such as the Black Intelligence Test of Cultural Homogeneity, that show blacks are as smart as whites. Of course, I never bothered to research the BITCH. It was enough for me that there were educated people who thought it was valid and reliable. The discovery that a book that argued that environment explains European hegemony and African failure was highly rated on Amazon also helped me hold onto my bias. I never opened Guns, Germs and Steel by Jared Diamond, but as long as there were educated people who accepted his theories, I didn’t question them.

During my freshman year at the University of Georgia, I found a blog called Racialicious. Reading articles about “micro-aggressions” and “red-lining” further convinced me that blacks were victims of an “injustice system.” My views were becoming more and more radical and my tolerance for dissent was waning. My college was predominantly white, and I got into more than my share of arguments about whether organizations for minorities should exist and whether it was significant that a black man was elected president.

At a dining hall one night, my Gujarati Indian friend’s white boyfriend angrily asked where white organizations could hold their meetings. I argued that UGA was trying to foster an environment that welcomes people of all racial and ethnic backgrounds. I added that not all students were Southern whites, and that those who weren’t should be allowed to organize to address their unique needs. I asked him what concerns white students could possibly have at a college that is 73 percent white. To my annoyance, my friend came to his aid, saying that recognizing non-white students was discrimination against whites. I was shocked and angry that a “person of color” would say that. I even condemned her as a sell-out to another Indian friend who shared my views. Now I am impressed that my friend thinks for herself rather than sticking to the unofficial Person of Color doctrine.

The issue of whether non-whites should have their own organizations at universities is probably the only racial issue in which my opinion has not changed since becoming a race realist–however, I believe whites should have the same rights.

The night Barack Obama was first elected president, a white Republican friend and I exchanged messages on Facebook. He didn’t think it mattered that a black man had made it to our nation’s highest office. I was appalled at his insistence that “race didn’t matter.” For centuries, only white men had access to the White House and now that has changed, I told him. I still think that the election of Barack Obama means racism no longer presents a powerful barrier to the ambitions of blacks, but given the anti-white agenda of the Obama administration, I silently hope that whites never again elect a black president.

Fortunately, my days as a racial egalitarian were short lived. First, I discovered a book called Losing the Race: Self-Sabotage in Black America, written by a black man named John McWhorter. Dr. McWhorter debunked many of the claims that had radicalized me. Slowly, my eyes started to open. Was it possible that “white racism” was largely a figment of the collective black imagination?

Then came Larry Elder, another open-minded black man. His book, The Ten Things You Can’t Say In America, showed me that there is no such thing as “red-lining” and that blacks tend to be more racist than whites.

In just a short time, I had gone from believing that blacks were oppressed to believing that blacks had the power to lift themselves up. Prof. Michael Levin of City University helped me make the final leap from egalitarian to race realist. At the beginning of Why Race Matters, he asks why anyone would think that blacks are as smart as whites. Stereotypes of blacks have been consistent throughout history, and black academic performance has always been lower than that of whites.

I thought of my oil-rich home country. Despite billions of dollars in natural resources, Nigeria remains mired in corruption, crime, violence, disease, and poverty, not unlike the rest of sub-Saharan Africa. I remembered my fruitless attempts in high school to find records of pre-colonization African inventions. One of my uncles dismissed my claim that Africans never invented anything by saying that Europeans destroyed many African civilizations and re-wrote history. Before reading Prof. Levin, I believed him.

Since becoming a race realist, I have spent countless hours trying to explain to some of my egalitarian friends that blacks did not evolve high intelligence because the warm African environment did not require it. A white former friend who holds an anthropology degree from my college de-friended me on Facebook, insisting that race is not even biological. A white former friend insisted that as a public school teacher she has had similar failure rates across racial lines. Years later, on Facebook, she likened Donald Trump to Hitler and Stalin, and asked that all Trump supporters de-friend her immediately. I debated a cousin who did not call me names and was actually open-minded enough to read the articles I sent him. The fact that he also sent me a woman’s attempt to refute Dr. Levin’s arguments gives me hope that he may someday become a race realist himself.

Thus far, I have painted a negative picture of the life of a black race realist, but the truth is that a huge sigh of relief escaped my lips upon learning that blacks are intellectually disadvantaged. There is no global conspiracy to keep us down. If I work hard and abide by the law, I will succeed.

Sadly, my view of the world is not shared by my family, who watched television in horror during the coverage of the shootings of Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown. To this day, my mother insists that George Zimmerman should have been convicted because he pursued Trayvon Martin with a gun despite orders not to. She has turned a blind eye to Mr. Zimmerman’s injuries and the evidence that he fired in self defense after being attacked. My father and brothers still believe that the police are waging war on young black men. My younger brother attended a rally at his college to honor Michael Brown’s memory.

My mother encourages me not to talk about politics or race in public because people will be horrified. She agrees with my dad that I was brainwashed against blacks because I attended a mostly white college in a red state. My dad believes that experiencing racism at the hands of whites will cure me. I disagree. If I ever come face to face with malicious whites, I am confident that it won’t turn me into an “anti-racist.”

I doubt that even racially conscious whites would be unkind to me. My experiences with race realists have been positive so far. One kind Jewish blogger interviewed me and later we talked via Skype. He is a fascinating person and didn’t seem to have an ounce of hostility towards me. Another white race realist and I have become good enough friends that we Skype at least every month.

I have met a few black race realists online as well. One lives in Nigeria and bravely chooses not to relocate to the West. We regularly post statuses on Facebook about what’s happening to whites worldwide. The other lives in Canada but prefers to keep his race realist views secret. He dates white women and wants to marry one! Even after I talked to him about regression to the mean, he told me that given his high IQ and that of his parents, he doesn’t think he would be dragging down a wife’s children intellectually.

I have tried fruitlessly to convince my white girl friends to avoid black men without sounding like I am motivated by jealousy. One dates black men almost exclusively and suffers as a result. She has had black men vandalize her car and cheat on her, but last I checked she was pursuing yet another black man whom she insists is different from the others. I continue to hope that she won’t end up like a never-married white, female co-worker who has two mulatto kids from two different black men, neither of whom pay child support or act as a father. I have tried hard to figure out why some white women behave this way. My theories run from social acceptance to low intelligence.

Some AR readers insist that if white men had not defected from ethno-nationalism, there would be no mulattoes being born to white women. These men have convinced me that women are not hard-wired to be leaders, and that it is up to white men to lead the West out of its malaise.

I have had no success in trying to understand why white men believe in liberal creationism, but whatever the cause, it has yet to infect Eastern Europeans. They are very ethno-nationalist and traditional, and may be the best hope for the white race.

Whites should discriminate in favor of their own race in foreign aid. Instead of sending money to sub-Saharan Africa, white-sponsored charities could help Eastern Europeans who suffer from alcoholism, AIDS, and prostitution. White churches could help Afrikaner refugees leave South Africa. In Mark Twain’s time, well-off whites took in poorer whites and educated them. Why has that changed?

My political activism is not limited to white nationalism. I am a vegan and a supporter of environmentalism and animal welfare. Studying the tactics used by the other organizations I support has given me an idea about how I could help. Within the next few years, I plan to start giving scholarships to college students who learn about what’s happening to whites worldwide.

I don’t mind giving away some of my income for this cause. It is only because of whites that I live far away from the daily dangers of armed robbery, rape, and kidnapping in Nigeria. If race deniers are not stopped, soon I won’t have to travel to Nigeria to be put in a near car-jacking situation again.

The three men who stopped our car in Nigeria asked who owned the car. My mom and uncle told them that my grandmother was the owner. As luck would have it, the men recognized their dialect of Yoruba, and determined we were all from the same part of Nigeria. They let us pass unharmed.

Incidents like these will happen more often as the West continues to embrace non-whites. It is my sincere hope that as the number of race realists grows, we can bring back segregation and whites can build a homeland for their children. This takes precedence over all my other political views. Animal welfare and environmentalism can wait. In the words of Charles Lindbergh, “It is the European race we must preserve; political progress will follow.”

http://www.amren.com/news/2015/10/i-am-black-and-a-race-realist/


While I find the thought of a black white nationalist disgusting, she raises some interesting points. I actually spoke with this girl at length and she expressed an opinion that the black race is impossible to salvage because of something called "regression to the mean." I don't agree with this sentiment but she represents a troubling trend: the best and brightest of the black race are are giving up on their people... what can be done to stop this?

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Re: Shocking: 25 Year Old Yoruba Girl Explains Why She Became A White Nationalist by INTROVERT(f): 4:19pm On Dec 31, 2015
too long
Re: Shocking: 25 Year Old Yoruba Girl Explains Why She Became A White Nationalist by makten: 4:24pm On Dec 31, 2015
INTROVERT:
too long
I didn't expect a low IQ person to be able to read more than a couple of sentences. You prove her point.

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Re: Shocking: 25 Year Old Yoruba Girl Explains Why She Became A White Nationalist by INTROVERT(f): 4:41pm On Dec 31, 2015
makten:
I didn't expect a low IQ person to be able to read more than a couple of sentences. You prove her point.



Thanks, high IQ.

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Re: Shocking: 25 Year Old Yoruba Girl Explains Why She Became A White Nationalist by Nobody: 4:45pm On Dec 31, 2015
Summary pls...
Re: Shocking: 25 Year Old Yoruba Girl Explains Why She Became A White Nationalist by Hundreddegrees(m): 4:49pm On Dec 31, 2015
This stuff is too long angry......We Africans don't like reading angry
Re: Shocking: 25 Year Old Yoruba Girl Explains Why She Became A White Nationalist by McSquishi(f): 4:56pm On Dec 31, 2015
makten:
I didn't expect a low IQ person to be able to read more than a couple of sentences. You prove her point.

Is it low Iq that makes this not worth reading? I could only suffer a few paragraphs before scrolling through for the gist. When racists write their diatribes it's usually written poorly, long winded, and babbling. I think the authors inability to make a cogent & concise argument for "race realism" is the reason it reads as long and strained... thusly unpalatable.

In any case, the author and those that think like that are the epitome of irony. They think of themselves as so enlightened on this issue yet by believing in the concept of biological "race" is in and of itself an admission of one's ignorance. Race simply doesn't exist under a microscope. Therefore any attempts to link evolution, IQ, behavior, etc to "race" is futile & idiotic.

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Re: Shocking: 25 Year Old Yoruba Girl Explains Why She Became A White Nationalist by makten: 4:59pm On Dec 31, 2015
McSquishi:


Is it low Iq that makes this not worth reading? I could only suffer a few paragraphs before scrolling through for the gist. When racists write their diatribes it's usually written poorly, long winded, and babbling. I think the authors inability to make a cogent & concise argument for "race realism" is the reason it reads as long and strained... thusly unpalatable.

In any case, the author and those that think like that are the epitome of irony. They think of themselves as so enlightened on this issue yet by believing in the concept of biological "race" is in and of itself an admission of one's ignorance. Race simply doesn't exist under a microscope. Therefore any attempts to link evolution, IQ, behavior, etc to "race" is futile & idiotic.
You think race doesnt exist because someone told you it doesn't exist, not because you expended any drop of critical thought on the issue. If you had you would be able to explain to me how/why race doesn't exist. Which you cannot do.

Secondly, she is not a white racist, she is a black Yoruba girl of 25 years.
Re: Shocking: 25 Year Old Yoruba Girl Explains Why She Became A White Nationalist by McSquishi(f): 5:19pm On Dec 31, 2015
makten:
You think race doesnt exist because someone told you it doesn't exist, not because you expended any drop of critical though on the issue. If you had you would be able to explain to me how/why race doesn't exist. Which you cannot do.

Secondly, she is not a white racist, she is a black Yoruba girl of 25 years.

I understand she isn't White, I said she's racist. To be racist one needn't be White, correct?

As for the fact that race doesn't exist, this is old news that geneticists revealed in the '90's. There is more genetic differentiation within "races" than their is between "races. The greatest genetic and phenotypic diversity lies within Africa. Many African villages alone contain more diversity within than found in any Asian or European population. But I digress...

You will find there is no clear delineation between races if you do just a smidge of research. The race scientists of the late 1800's early 1900's tried with all their might to define race and failed. Science disproves the notion more and more each day. What genes do White ppl have that no Black or Asian person has? There isn't one.

Race is a social construct. It's real in the sense that it's construction affects us. But not real on a biological or genetic level... Thus, again, intelligence, behavior, etc cannot be linked to it in any meaningful way. Sorry to disappoint you.

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Re: Shocking: 25 Year Old Yoruba Girl Explains Why She Became A White Nationalist by makten: 5:51pm On Dec 31, 2015
McSquishi:


I understand she isn't White, I said she's racist. To be racist one needn't be White, correct?

As for the fact that race doesn't exist, this is old news that geneticists revealed in the '90's. There is more genetic differentiation within "races" than their is between "races. The greatest genetic and phenotypic diversity lies within Africa. Many African villages alone contain more diversity within than found in any Asian or European population. But I digress...

You will find there is no clear delineation between races if you do just a smidge of research. The race scientists of the late 1800's early 1900's tried with all their might to define race and failed. Science disproves the notion more and more each day. What genes do White ppl have that no Black or Asian person has? There isn't one.

Race is a social construct. It's real in the sense that it's construction affects us. But not real on a biological or genetic level... Thus, again, intelligence, behavior, etc cannot be linked to it in any meaningful way. Sorry to disappoint you.
Interesting! So now i have two questions for you:

1. Does ethnicity (blood ethnicity) exist, or is it also a social construct like race is?

2. Is breed of dog (or cat) also a social construct or does this logic you used here only apply when the truth makes you insecure?
Re: Shocking: 25 Year Old Yoruba Girl Explains Why She Became A White Nationalist by HugoChavezJr(m): 5:53pm On Dec 31, 2015
Not surprised. Most Yoruba people are uncle Toms and coons anyways.
Re: Shocking: 25 Year Old Yoruba Girl Explains Why She Became A White Nationalist by makten: 5:55pm On Dec 31, 2015
HugoChavezJr:
Not surprised. Most Yoruba people are uncle Toms and coons anyways.
Is there anything she said that was false?
Re: Shocking: 25 Year Old Yoruba Girl Explains Why She Became A White Nationalist by HugoChavezJr(m): 6:14pm On Dec 31, 2015
makten:
Is there anything she said that was false?

Yes, she's right that white people and Asians have higher IQs than blacks on average, but then again, an IQ test isn't a sole factor in determining intelligence. And I laugh when she says that the Obama administration has been anti white. I mean is she that dull? Obama has catered to every single demographic except for black folks, so I don't know how Obama has been anti-white. Also, many blacks have made great intellectual strides without "affirmative action" or help from the "superior" white man, so I don't see where she's getting at.

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Re: Shocking: 25 Year Old Yoruba Girl Explains Why She Became A White Nationalist by McSquishi(f): 6:21pm On Dec 31, 2015
makten:
Interesting! So now i have two questions for you:

1. Does ethnicity (blood ethnicity) exist, or is it also a social construct like race is?

2. Is breed of dog (or cat) also a social construct or does this logic you used here only apply when the truth makes you insecure?

1. I've never heard of the term "blood ethnicity"... Do you mean blood types and the prevalence of certain blood type by ethnicity? Minus the blood part, though, yes ethnicity exists but also yes, it is a social construction. For example, in America we recognize a "Hispanic" ethnicity. Hispanic nations come from the Caribbean, South & Central America. There were different indigenous populations inhabiting these lands before Western colonization, different African populations in different frequencies were brought to and mixed with these indigenous ones as well as Spaniard & Portuguese populations mixing. Average Dominican "blood"/dna will look different from the average Mexican dna (Mexican having larger indigenous snp's, Dominican having larger African snp's). Nonetheless, they both are of the Hispanic ethnicity.

Ethnicity can't be quantified genetically. Doesn't mean it isn't real, just not biologically meaningful.

2.)http://m.jhered.oxfordjournals.org/content/94/1/81.full
looks like breeds are man made as well, lol. There was a process of (un)natural selection in order to select for various traits. Read the study, or just the abstract. Educate yourself instead of tasking me to do so wink

My understanding the fact that race doesn't exist has nothing to do with security, lol. If anything, the concept is perpetuated by those who feel the most insecure. Race was created in order to promote White Anglo-Saxon superiority. The insecure folks are the ones who cling to a handful of genetic skin mutations to explain the state of the world.

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Re: Shocking: 25 Year Old Yoruba Girl Explains Why She Became A White Nationalist by Nobody: 6:29pm On Dec 31, 2015
just wasted my time reading that rubbish. She even used a pejorative word to describe her colleagues children. This self-hating black woman reminds me of Uncle Ruckus in boondocks.

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Re: Shocking: 25 Year Old Yoruba Girl Explains Why She Became A White Nationalist by makten: 6:26am On Jan 01, 2016
McSquishi:


1. I've never heard of the term "blood ethnicity"... Do you mean blood types and the prevalence of certain blood type by ethnicity? Minus the blood part, though, yes ethnicity exists but also yes, it is a social construction. For example, in America we recognize a "Hispanic" ethnicity. Hispanic nations come from the Caribbean, South & Central America. There were different indigenous populations inhabiting these lands before Western colonization, different African populations in different frequencies were brought to and mixed with these indigenous ones as well as Spaniard & Portuguese populations mixing. Average Dominican "blood"/dna will look different from the average Mexican dna (Mexican having larger indigenous snp's, Dominican having larger African snp's). Nonetheless, they both are of the Hispanic ethnicity.

Ethnicity can't be quantified genetically. Doesn't mean it isn't real, just not biologically meaningful.

2.)http://m.jhered.oxfordjournals.org/content/94/1/81.full
looks like breeds are man made as well, lol. There was a process of (un)natural selection in order to select for various traits. Read the study, or just the abstract. Educate yourself instead of tasking me to do so wink

My understanding the fact that race doesn't exist has nothing to do with security, lol. If anything, the concept is perpetuated by those who feel the most insecure. Race was created in order to promote White Anglo-Saxon superiority. The insecure folks are the ones who cling to a handful of genetic skin mutations to explain the state of the world.

Well if ethnicity has no biological basis then why can it be determined to the tribe/nation by mitochondrial DNA? Basically this is checkmate, science can determine a persons ethnicity and science can determine a persons race without even looking at them. You need to reeducate yourself on modern genetics.

These are mitochondrial DNA reports from people who are white, Asian and black. In many cases DNA can pinpoint a persons origin to the state and identify any mixture to the decimal point. Race is very very real, even though it makes you upset.

Re: Shocking: 25 Year Old Yoruba Girl Explains Why She Became A White Nationalist by makten: 6:37am On Jan 01, 2016
McSquishi:


1. I've never heard of the term "blood ethnicity"... Do you mean blood types and the prevalence of certain blood type by ethnicity? Minus the blood part, though, yes ethnicity exists but also yes, it is a social construction. For example, in America we recognize a "Hispanic" ethnicity. Hispanic nations come from the Caribbean, South & Central America. There were different indigenous populations inhabiting these lands before Western colonization, different African populations in different frequencies were brought to and mixed with these indigenous ones as well as Spaniard & Portuguese populations mixing. Average Dominican "blood"/dna will look different from the average Mexican dna (Mexican having larger indigenous snp's, Dominican having larger African snp's). Nonetheless, they both are of the Hispanic ethnicity.

Ethnicity can't be quantified genetically. Doesn't mean it isn't real, just not biologically meaningful.

2.)http://m.jhered.oxfordjournals.org/content/94/1/81.full
looks like breeds are man made as well, lol. There was a process of (un)natural selection in order to select for various traits. Read the study, or just the abstract. Educate yourself instead of tasking me to do so wink

My understanding the fact that race doesn't exist has nothing to do with security, lol. If anything, the concept is perpetuated by those who feel the most insecure. Race was created in order to promote White Anglo-Saxon superiority. The insecure folks are the ones who cling to a handful of genetic skin mutations to explain the state of the world.

Anyone who would claim that the difference between the two dogs here is nothing more than "social construct" is either incredibly insecure about being black, just an idiot or both.

There is a time when you have to stop self selecting biased research to support your views and start looking at the world objectively. There are obvious biological differences between the races. When blacks talk about genetic diversity it just makes me cringe, you insecure afrocentrics don't even know how to pretend to be proud without making yourself look inferior. I have included an image of the founder population effect.

Basically when you make that claim you are asserting that other races evolved from blacks. In your insecure mind this sounds like a good thing, but to any learned individual the implications of such a truth are obvious. Imagine the black race is the founder population with the highest genetic diversity, lets say those red dots included genes for IQ and those blue dots included genes for conscientiousness.

Other races would then have higher frequencies of intelligence and consciousness than the black race, which they do of course.

Re: Shocking: 25 Year Old Yoruba Girl Explains Why She Became A White Nationalist by makten: 6:47am On Jan 01, 2016
HugoChavezJr:


Yes, she's right that white people and Asians have higher IQs than blacks on average, but then again, an IQ test isn't a sole factor in determining intelligence. And I laugh when she says that the Obama administration has been anti white. I mean is she that dull? Obama has catered to every single demographic except for black folks, so I don't know how Obama has been anti-white. Also, many blacks have made great intellectual strides without "affirmative action" or help from the "superior" white man, so I don't see where she's getting at.
I agree, when i spoke to her i told her to kill herself.

All that white people victimhood crap made me nauseous. She is wayward, i told her she should be fighting for eugenics in Africa not trying to be a pet to white racists.

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Re: Shocking: 25 Year Old Yoruba Girl Explains Why She Became A White Nationalist by McSquishi(f): 7:57am On Jan 01, 2016
It's clear you don't know what you're talking about. So funny. mtDNA does not and cannot denote a racial group. It will only give you information on what haplogroups your mitochondrial lineages belong to. That isn't race, that's simply ancestry. As I stated, there isn't an SNP, no gene that White ppl have that you can't find in an Asian or Black population. Meaning there is too much overlap between populations for the concept of race to hold water. If I'm wrong please share what mitochondrial lineage denotes White or Black or Asian or whatever racial groups u believe in.

Ethnicity cannot be traced. Ancestry can be traced. I belabored the Hispanic ethnicity example but you didn't get it apparently. When ppl have their matrilineal or patrilineal Dna examined, for accuracy certain SNP's have to be searched for. Certain populations have SNP's that are specific to them, so if someone is tested and that SNP shows up in their dna, it's likely they share a common ancestor with whatever population that polymorphism is associated with. Again, this is not race. Not even close. It's population genetics, which you seem to have no understanding of. cry

makten:


Well if ethnicity has no biological basis then why can it be determined to the tribe/nation by mitochondrial DNA? Basically this is checkmate, science can determine a persons ethnicity and science can determine a persons race without even looking at them. You need to reeducate yourself on modern genetics.

These are mitochondrial DNA reports from people who are white, Asian and black. In many cases DNA can pinpoint a persons origin to the state and identify any mixture to the decimal point. Race is very very real, even though it makes you upset.

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Re: Shocking: 25 Year Old Yoruba Girl Explains Why She Became A White Nationalist by McSquishi(f): 7:59am On Jan 01, 2016
I'm not sure what biased articles or journals you think it is that I read but I don't think NIH or Oxford Journals has ever been accused of being Afrocentric havens, lol, I linked a simple study, you didn't understand it and that's ok. What it told you is that dog breeds as we know them today are man made creations. Yes, dogs look different, lol. Humans mated certain dogs with each other to form breeds. At this point there is some genetic distance between some breeds of dogs due to the successful unnatural selection. Humans don't have that history of mating only humans with certain phenotype a with each other over long periods of time. There has always been overlap between populations.

It isn't Afrocentrism that tells you that the original humans were Black Africans, that, again, is science. Homo sapien sapiens (us) evolved in Africa 200kya. The first populations left the continent 60kya. They were Black skinned Africans then, yes, deal with it. The La Brana man shows that Europeans still had dark brown skin even until 7kya. You use your misunderstanding of founder effect to make a circular argument. I'm telling you that race doesn't exist and intelligence can't be measured through a racial lens, but you overlook that and try to connect it anyway. Founder effect means that out of all the diversity the original population has, the new populations will have just a bit of that. And it's not Africa vs Euro/Asian diversity, it's a random Kenyan village's diversity vs Euro/Asian genetic diversity. Your argument that the Black African people who are the ancestors of Asian and European populations were the smartest and most conscious and thus Asians & Europeans are now smarter & more conscious is silly. IQ is generally measured by tests developed in western nations and doesn't measure true intelligence. There are plenty of non-Afrocentric studies done on this. & Consciousness?? How do we go about measuring that? You pulled that from thin air, along with everything else you've spouted lol.


makten:


Anyone who would claim that the difference between the two dogs here is nothing more than "social construct" is either incredibly insecure about being black, just an idiot or both.

There is a time when you have to stop self selecting biased research to support your views and start looking at the world objectively. There are obvious biological differences between the races. When blacks talk about genetic diversity it just makes me cringe, you insecure afrocentrics don't even know how to pretend to be proud without making yourself look inferior. I have included an image of the founder population effect.

Basically when you make that claim you are asserting that other races evolved from blacks. In your insecure mind this sounds like a good thing, but to any learned individual the implications of such a truth are obvious. Imagine the black race is the founder population with the highest genetic diversity, lets say those red dots included genes for IQ and those blue dots included genes for conscientiousness.

Other races would then have higher frequencies of intelligence and consciousness than the black race, which they do of course.

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Re: Shocking: 25 Year Old Yoruba Girl Explains Why She Became A White Nationalist by makten: 8:43am On Jan 01, 2016
McSquishi:
It's clear you don't know what you're talking about. So funny. mtDNA does not and cannot denote a racial group. It will only give you information on what haplogroups your mitochondrial lineages belong to. That isn't race, that's simply ancestry. As I stated, there isn't an SNP, no gene that White ppl have that you can't find in an Asian or Black population. Meaning there is too much overlap between populations for the concept of race to hold water. If I'm wrong please share what mitochondrial lineage denotes White or Black or Asian or whatever racial groups u believe in.

Ethnicity cannot be traced. Ancestry can be traced. I belabored the Hispanic ethnicity example but you didn't get it apparently. When ppl have their matrilineal or patrilineal Dna examined, for accuracy certain SNP's have to be searched for. Certain populations have SNP's that are specific to them, so if someone is tested and that SNP shows up in their dna, it's likely they share a common ancestor with whatever population that polymorphism is associated with. Again, this is not race. Not even close. It's population genetics, which you seem to have no understanding of. cry

You have created a strawman argument against the validity of race as a characterization of human diversity.

Listen, no one ever said there is a "black gene" or a "white gene" or an "asian gene." Race is simply a measure of the relative frequencies of characteristics (mainly phenotypes) inside a population. And as such is a reasonable way to measure other heritable traits like IQ and conscientiousness in populations.

Human populations are indeed very genetically similar but this doesn't really mean much. For example we have 98% of the same DNA as a chimpanzee, next are you gunna say that species doesn't exist? The African Agama lizard and the Laudakia lizard in Eurasia are genetically very similar, but they still have an obvious biological reason for being separate. Likewise the African negro human and the Eurasian Caucasoid human are very genetically similar and also have obvious biological reasons for being classified as separate.

Politically correct anthropologists love to tell negros that race doesn't exist, but when they are in the forensics lab analyzing a skeleton race and gender are the first things they look for.
Re: Shocking: 25 Year Old Yoruba Girl Explains Why She Became A White Nationalist by makten: 8:53am On Jan 01, 2016
McSquishi:
. IQ is generally measured by tests developed in western nations and doesn't measure true intelligence.

I meant to say conscientiousness btw. This is a heritable trait that measures thoroughness, honesty and precision. It seems to be high in Japanese and German people and low in Africans. See "African Time."

Anyway, if IQ tests were developed in western nations and are thus "biased" why do the Asians outperform the whites who created the tests? Why does Mongolia, a country with the same GDP/capita as Nigeria, score 15 points higher than African Americans in the United States?

Intelligence is cognitive ability, the capacity for abstract thought and problem solving. The IQ test measures this pretty well and there is no reasonable way you could argue otherwise.
Re: Shocking: 25 Year Old Yoruba Girl Explains Why She Became A White Nationalist by AAinEqGuinea: 2:45pm On Jan 01, 2016
The author is extremely malleable; one year she's a soul sistah on fire for everything black, the next year she's a proud mammy on the front page of ghetto gaggers... Raven Symone is the latest diva to grace their presence as well

Don't get me wrong, we black people have certain peculiarities about us. So do white people, not everything about them is supercilious. It seems logical to the author to suddenly jump in whitey's parade as a result of reading conservative-leaning retorts and experiencing social ills of Nigeria.

Who knows what will guide her world proposition next... maybe master race aliens with master retort will transform her into a 'astrological realist' next year

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Re: Shocking: 25 Year Old Yoruba Girl Explains Why She Became A White Nationalist by makten: 3:34pm On Jan 01, 2016
AAinEqGuinea:
The author is extremely malleable; one year she's a soul sistah on fire for everything black, the next year she's a proud mammy on the front page of ghetto gaggers... Raven Symone is the latest diva to grace their presence as well

Don't get me wrong, we black people have certain peculiarities about us. So do white people, not everything about them is supercilious. It seems logical to the author to suddenly jump in whitey's parade as a result of reading conservative-leaning retorts and experiencing social ills of Nigeria.

Who knows what will guide her world proposition next... maybe master race aliens with master retort will transform her into a 'astronomical realist' next year
Being malleable is good, it means you are able to absorb information and are willing to admit you were wrong about something.

I share her sentiment in someways, i used to be an afrocentric but at a certain point i realized it was nothing more than insecure self delusion. As for her, she swung too far in the opposite direction and needs to kill herself. A black white nationalist is the most pathetic thing imaginable.

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